Who care?

not me

What surprises me the most is that it was the strong selling compact suv a couple of years back. Which leads me to believe consumers obviously dont know their ass from a hole in the ground. I could name at lease 5 others that would beat this peace of crap hands down, every year in almost every catagory.

dont give a damn. NEXT!!!

18/23 … wow…

If you didn’t care, why did you click on the link?

i agree with Tree. this is LEFT LANE NEWS! INFO ABOUT ALL CARS, TRUCKS, S.U.V’S AND SO ON! So stop being so damn stupid.

Yeah these people get off on saying I dont care the second the article is put up… Which means all they care about is just posting their pointless opinion. I dont care for Subaru’s but that doesn’t mean I post negative comments on eyerything Subaru…

Okay mujician, let’s hear the 5. Go…

People buy Jeeps because they’re a Jeep, not some poser Toyonda C-RaV4. The one suv’s I have ever owned and still own, have been Jeeps and that’s never going to change. Rugged, dependable, go anywhere, do anything - that’s a Jeep. Someone who will never take a vehicle off road will never understand a Jeep.

Regardless of all that… this is what the Liberty should have looked like when it first came out. This finally looks like a Cherokee replacement. The last one always looked like it was designed for girls. Looks aside it did however handle exceptionally well out on the trails.

I saw more images on this car… the interior basically looks like same thing on all dcx products… though this last one had a diesel…?

*The only suvs… that is

I agree with tree… I’ve been on the forum for a long time, and some of the comments can become quite annoying…

And as AMGoff said, they’re built with trails in mind… The majority of people that I know who own Jeeps do lots of recreational activities, that doesn’t necessarily mean mud bogging or trails… They’re more dependable than any CR-V or RaV4 when you want to tow small loads, or just go out and have fun.
Plus, it has (or atleast HAD) a diesel, which at the time (and still IS) the only diesel in a small SUV on the market… I heard it sold really well too.

The interior is uninspiring, looks like a Dodge Dakotas with different color panels… I’d like to see a more aggresive interior, I must say.

i have a question people. if the Jeep Commander didnt do so well in the market then why style the new Liberty after the Commander?

zzzzzzzzzz huh what another crappy jeep?? NEXT

it sold really well in europe, idk about the US, since it was cut off due to stricter emission laws for 07… but jeeps are great for the open road, their quality isnt there yet.

The Commander payed homage to the Cherokee and the Wagoneers. The Liberty was brought out to replace the Cherokee which was on the market for some 18 years. If anything this new Liberty looks closer to the Cherokee that it replaced than the old one.

LP640… is it that you’re just bent that they don’t talk about Lamborghini a lot on here so you have to **** on everything else. Heaven forbid that we actually talk about cars people can afford. Even id I had the money I wouldn’t waste it on a freakin Lambo….

haha “payed”… guess that should have said “paid”

Jeep is one of the few 4×4 makers, along with Land Rover, who still make proper off-roaders.

In the UK everyone prefers a Landie though, I guess it’s just patriotism really. Jeeps are undoubtedly more popular in the US.

MY Si.. Sure, the Commander styling is horrible.. but they would have sold like hotcakes despite that if only the vehicle was larger. Apparently consumers aren’t as stupid as Jeep thought and realized that trying to make a 7-seater from the Grand Cherokee platform without increasing the wheelbase or length doesn’t yield all that much extra space. Using the foot-longer Durango platform may have helped Commander sales despite the heinous styling, but obviously Chrysler wanted the Aspen for itself.
As far as the Liberty, it is still sold as the Cherokee in other markets, so Jeep is sort of tied to the boxy, upright look.. plus, the new Liberty is just a Dodge Nitro in Commander disguise.

lp640 u suck man everyone hates you cause ur always leaving negative comments andl ike yo u now **** about cars but really you just suck and you wish u had an lp640

Off road??? This model can go off road???
Nither this car can go off road like the real Jeep, nor this car can have a smooth rid in the city like CRV or Rav-4, what is this car worth?? I don’t even need to mention about the gas milage and the interior. Crap!

Ohhh…the big selling point of this car is the back seat cup holders by the way.

does this mean that the dealer has less profit to play with? Anybody know what a dealer pays for a 20k Liberty?

Elvio, blow it out your ass… have you actually ever driven one? I’m willing to say no… even if you have I’m willing to say you’ve never taken it off road. We basically a Jeep family - myself, my dad, both my brothers - all jeeps. I’ve driven a Liberty (my brother’s) through the trails in the pine barrens as well as the bogs down along the river. Say what you want but that little Liberty didn’t leave us stuck even once. Does it tackle things as gracefully as my Grand Wag, no - but it still gets the job done. You may think it’s some sort of joke, but they don’t put “trail rated” on them just for ****s and giggles.

^^You drive Jeeps!?^^

Hey, if the Wrangler had a single ounce more of dependability, I would have honest to God bought one. The best Wrangler to buy is a used Wrangler with 40-60k miles on it. When they are working, they work very well. I bought the XTerra OffRoad instead. It’s obviously bigger, as capable, and fairly inexpensive. But I would trade it for a dependable open top Rubicon the day they build one.

The Liberty accomplishes it’s goal as it intended. It’s not a Wrangler, it wasn’t intended to be. Nor was it intended to be a Grand Cherokee. It’s an inexpensive 5 seat people and cargo hauler, with better than average off road talents. And this new design will put more on the road than before.

Damn AMGackoff, I’m insulting the living **** out of you on thread after thread, and here you are, a diehard Jeeper. Well **** me in the ass and call me Suzie.

I’m a diehard Jeeper myself. Will probably never change. I’m on my second Wrangler and I’m addicted. I offroaded with a Liberty once as well, and NEVER got stuck. It’s a remarkable SUV, especially with proper tires and a budget lift.

Piablo, I’ve never had any major problems with either Wrangler (00 and 04), but the 07 Wrangler is a ****ing nightmare. There are so many electrical problems (power loss at freeway speeds), busted U-joint stories, leaking top fiascos, and missing paint complaints that it’s comical. I was told by my OWN DEALER to wait for the 08s to come out, WAY too many glitches being revised.

Here YOU go in order. 1.Escape 2.CR-V 3.LR2/Freelander 4.Santa Fe 5.Equinox

the old wranglers are cool, and yea look at the jeep forums, theyre screaming about lots of other problems on their 07 wranglers.

Suzie… I mean Assclown, I’m almost frightened that we have things in common. I have always been a diehard Mopar-man. My ‘04 Regal GS is the first non-Chrysler car I’ve ever bought, then again since the Germans made a mess of Chrysler I really had no choice but to go with the General. While I may drive the Buick to work every day, once the weekend hits I’m in my Jeep. If there’s one brand I’m completely loyal to, it’s Jeep. A Jeep has never left me stranded wherever I’ve gone, because of that I will never buy a 4×4 that isn’t one. My very first car was a CJ-8 Scrambler, my God did I love that thing, I kick myself in the balls all the time for ever getting rid of that thing, especially seeing what they’re going for now. The first thing the wife and I bought as a couple were his and hers Cherokees. When I got rid of mine it had about 220,000 miles on it and I still see the guy I sold it to driving around town in it, I still think to this day that the 4.0L straight-six was the most bulletproof engine ever created.. We just picked up an ‘85 CJ-7 that we’re restoring little by little. My current on is a cherry ‘89 Grand Wagoneer, that was THE vehicle I always wanted growing up and when I found one in great shape I jumped at the chance to have her. Sure, her carburated 360 only gets 11mpg downhill, with a tailwind, but I love her and won’t make the same mistake I did with the Scrambler. She’s a tank that will literally go anywhere, in low gear she’ll crawl up a 30 degree gravel incline without stepping on the gas. The technology in that beast is so ancient that I have yet to encounter any problem I couldn’t fix with my trusty Haynes manual. Plus I can rightfully walk around saying I have the biggest woody in town. So yeah, you could say I’m a diehard Jeeper.

Yes, Elvio, they can go offroad… I don’t personally own a Jeep but my half brother owns a Cherokee. From what I know, he hasn’t taken it off on trails, but it’s been a great car. He remarked it was really versatile, after 150,000 miles it still ran good, and had enough oomph to easily tow his boat. And I know for a fact when they badge it trail rated- they mean nothing less than trail rated. I’m not so sure about the new Jeep Wrangler, I’ve heard there’s been a few reliability issues, but I’ve seen them do their share on trails.

And myself, I’ve driven a diesel Jeep Liberty before and taken it around, not on trails but through mild terrain- it seemed like a really capable vehicle. I wouldn’t want one though, I’m not in the market for an SUV, but I wanted to try out a few vehicles for myself. While I was at it I tried out a few other vehicles, and went to a few other dealerships. The Toyota Rav4, personal tests (such as Edmunds) has gotten around 20 mpg, and that’s not in 2008 rates.

AMGackoff…you are a moron….
do I drive a Jeep?? Hell ya….I own one. tell me what in the new liberty is the real jeep?? Liberty is a real jeep wannabe ( hard time to get real off road )…as well as the crossover wannabe ( cheap quality like Nitro; no confortable at all ). Because of that it ended up wannabe nothing. Useless peice of ****–the upcoming one.

I HOPE THEY IMPROVED ON THEIR MODELS…..PRICING RANGE IS NOT BAD.

Elvio - Don’t be an ass. I don’t think anyone is stating the Liberty is the ultimate standard in off roading. But I would certainly want a Liberty over a Rav4 or CRV or Equinox or the many others in it’s class. Whats the point in Jeep putting front and rear locking difs in every vehicle they make? They have to stay in business and that means making vehicles people will buy. I don’t think we need 10 versions of the Wrangler, one will do fine.

JEEPS ARE GOOD OFF-ROAD, BUT NO CONTEST AGAINST A LAND ROVER. A LANDIE IS WELL MANNERED ON THE ROAD AS WELL. A JEEP FEELS LIKE A LUXURY TRACTOR

FOR ULTIMATE OFF-ROAD ABILITY, CHECK THIS OUT:

http://www.argocat.co.uk/avenger.html

Piablo…so…what you just just confirmed that the new Liberty is a crap!

El-douche-vio… for God’s sake man, if you want to play with the big boys you better at least come up with your own insults, if not get back in the kitchen where you belong Sally. Ok, so you own one, but I’m still willing to bet that your soft suburbanite ass has never taken the thing off road. And by offroad I don’t mean pulling it around in your back yard in order to provide more seats for your gay pride parade after-party. Just because you find it impossible to drive in three inches of snow doesn’t mean you should blame it on the Jeep, only your own incompetence. A piss-poor driver can turn the greatest vehicle into the worst. I never said it was the best Jeep ever made you douche, I only said it was a damn capable little thing that handled real offroad situations rather nicely. If we all think really really hard, then hopefully you’ll choke on your own teeth after the 300 pound puerto-rican dominatrix you paid for punches you square in the mouth. It will be a happy day for us all.

Aston Martin, LOL you call that british bull **** a good contender it wouldn’t make it over a stick compared to any american truck. i really don’t care what the “i drink lots of tea and drive unreliable uk cars” people perfer. when you move from anywhere to north america and you get to try a American truck no other truck will be the same. also the cadillac escalade killed the land rover in the car and driver magazine so just acepet the 4×4 is crap.

^^^^^^^^You must be some kind of ignorant, uncuultured redneck from Alabama or some similar ****hole. Everyone knows that the Cadillac Escalade is a blingmobile for rappers with no off-road ability whatsoever. Yes, American trucks are good off-road, but so are tractors. A Land Rover is a CAR which is good off-road.

Elvio - What I confirmed is that the Liberty accomplishes exactly what it set out to do, and does it very well. I’m not sure what you expect for $20K….

Aston - Which Land Rover are you referring to? Ranger Rover? LR3? LR2? Defender? There’s a big difference between all models. The Defender is the last of what made Land Rover great. The rest of the models have become what you hate most in Escalades… Even then, I would put the H3, or XTerra up against the Defender. A Rubicon takes each of them. But the H1 stills reigns as the champ.

OK OK OK, everyone listen up.

AMGackoff, you say you kicked yourself in the balls for getting rid of your Scrambler. You actually have balls? LOL!

Asston Martin: your stupid comments about Land Rovers demonstrate you’ve never been offroading. They have ****ty clearance, inferior approach/departure angles (c/w Jeeps) and are notoriously unreliable. As Piablo stated, the Defender is the only one that merits discussion here. Don’t buy into the Land Rover superiority myth, it’s just that, a myth.

Which brings me to Piablo: I’m not so sure about the H1. Some of the hardware is technically impressive, but the sheer volume and weight of the vehicle ensures it gets bogged down frequently. I’ve never offroaded with an H1 in the group, but the 4×4 forums are littered with stories about them getting high centered, stuck in mudpits, snapping tie rods, etc…Too heavy and expensive.

Guys watch this video from about 3:05 and then make your minds up
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ie_4QZd_upA

My problem with the Southerners is that most of them are a bunch of bigoted, racist, religious retards who are rooted in the past and worship fried food.
In Clarkson’s Good, Bad and the Ugly the Americans lose just about every single contest, including the off-roading one where the Range Rover trashes the Hummer and the Cadillac.
As for my unique point of view, you will find that many Britons have a similar one.

Your ****ing land rover will not stand up to a 1985 chevy S15 that has a 16inch lift and 44 inch tiers that has a 454ci motor and 650 hp that’s the truck my brother in-law has you rich ****ing British dick sucker. Do you think your landrover can do rock crawling i didn’t think so.

If you modded a land Rover with a similar budget you would probably end up with something better. We’re talking about standard cars here, and a standard Land Rover is better off-road than a standard Cadillac or a standard Jeep.

Ass-ton Martin… I don’t need to mod ****. All I have to do is hop in my Grand Wagoneer and I can go way more places than some queer rover. douche