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	<title>Comments on: 2007 Zhonghua Jinjue: China&#8217;s BMW?</title>
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		<title>By: teabag</title>
		<link>http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007-zhonghua-jinjue-chinas-bmw.html/comment-page-1#comment-181358</link>
		<dc:creator>teabag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This car is cool, end of story, I&#039;m gonna buy one if someone imports it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This car is cool, end of story, I&#8217;m gonna buy one if someone imports it.</p>
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		<title>By: jackiechang</title>
		<link>http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007-zhonghua-jinjue-chinas-bmw.html/comment-page-1#comment-88954</link>
		<dc:creator>jackiechang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2006 00:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>porshe does their engineering and so does BMW

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.Chinacarforums.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Chinese Cars Zhonghua forum&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>porshe does their engineering and so does BMW</p>
<p><a href="http://www.Chinacarforums.com" rel="nofollow">Chinese Cars Zhonghua forum</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 11:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 11:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pku043(a chinese)</title>
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		<dc:creator>pku043(a chinese)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Apr 2006 16:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>let&#039;s get back to the car itself man~

I&#039;m tired of this mass...   -_-!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>let&#8217;s get back to the car itself man~</p>
<p>I&#8217;m tired of this mass&#8230;   -_-!!</p>
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		<title>By: wu</title>
		<link>http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007-zhonghua-jinjue-chinas-bmw.html/comment-page-1#comment-8405</link>
		<dc:creator>wu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2006 19:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a cn guy,i&#039;m sorry to read all this comment,even Chinese people do not like &quot;COMMUNIST IDEOLOGY&quot;,but can i choice? we all hate war, all hate poor.but i can do nothing/b t y,this car&#039;s price US$10000.
,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a cn guy,i&#8217;m sorry to read all this comment,even Chinese people do not like &#8220;COMMUNIST IDEOLOGY&#8221;,but can i choice? we all hate war, all hate poor.but i can do nothing/b t y,this car&#8217;s price US$10000.<br />
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		<title>By: Explore. Dream. Discover. &#187;</title>
		<link>http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007-zhonghua-jinjue-chinas-bmw.html/comment-page-1#comment-7368</link>
		<dc:creator>Explore. Dream. Discover. &#187;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 05:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pku043(a chinese)</title>
		<link>http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007-zhonghua-jinjue-chinas-bmw.html/comment-page-1#comment-7353</link>
		<dc:creator>pku043(a chinese)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 03:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you see? the unfriendly comment on floor 29 enraged some one here in china,they had just been introduce to here.Say sorry  for they rude word....
I believe this is not a forum about politics,and not all the American want to turn a potential friend to enemy
After all,you have more chance to be educated in a developed country(not kidding).You&#039;d be smart enough to judge</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you see? the unfriendly comment on floor 29 enraged some one here in china,they had just been introduce to here.Say sorry  for they rude word&#8230;.<br />
I believe this is not a forum about politics,and not all the American want to turn a potential friend to enemy<br />
After all,you have more chance to be educated in a developed country(not kidding).You&#8217;d be smart enough to judge</p>
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		<title>By: pku043(a chinese)</title>
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		<dc:creator>pku043(a chinese)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 03:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>happy to see you&#039;re discussing so seriously...:)
the report didn&#039;t mention the Brilliance is the BMW partner and produce 3&amp;5 series in China.They share the same factory and the same line.

BTW,the pirce would be $10000 at least~believe? 320mt sells $50000 here ! -_-!! 530?$70000! 

so don&#039;t hope it will beat bmw(bmw won&#039;t agree),it just a &quot;low end&quot; product(comparing with bmw),but has a more suitable balance between performance and price~

not angel,not demon~

that is chinese...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>happy to see you&#8217;re discussing so seriously&#8230;:)<br />
the report didn&#8217;t mention the Brilliance is the BMW partner and produce 3&amp;5 series in China.They share the same factory and the same line.</p>
<p>BTW,the pirce would be $10000 at least~believe? 320mt sells $50000 here ! -_-!! 530?$70000! </p>
<p>so don&#8217;t hope it will beat bmw(bmw won&#8217;t agree),it just a &#8220;low end&#8221; product(comparing with bmw),but has a more suitable balance between performance and price~</p>
<p>not angel,not demon~</p>
<p>that is chinese&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ä½ å¤§çˆ·</title>
		<link>http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007-zhonghua-jinjue-chinas-bmw.html/comment-page-1#comment-7344</link>
		<dc:creator>ä½ å¤§çˆ·</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 02:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Anonymous (1)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous (1)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 02:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>23#,kuck you å…¨å®¶ all women!!!</description>
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		<title>By: DD</title>
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		<dc:creator>DD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 02:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Anonymous (1)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous (1)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 01:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The price will be about $7,000~10,000.</description>
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		<title>By: a reader from China</title>
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		<dc:creator>a reader from China</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 01:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello every one.Thanks for pay so much attention on this car,I am a fans of this car,so many people in China are looking forward to this car,it will come into the Chinese market tomorrow,the price will be about $10,000~15,000.
Reading above,I think someone bark up the wrong tree (Why? How can u related a Chinese car to terrorist? Anyone remember the USAF attack our embassy at Yugoslavia by serval cruise missile? Can I think the US is terrorist?).
I agree this car is not a &quot;Chinese&quot; car, but, it still a good car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello every one.Thanks for pay so much attention on this car,I am a fans of this car,so many people in China are looking forward to this car,it will come into the Chinese market tomorrow,the price will be about $10,000~15,000.<br />
Reading above,I think someone bark up the wrong tree (Why? How can u related a Chinese car to terrorist? Anyone remember the USAF attack our embassy at Yugoslavia by serval cruise missile? Can I think the US is terrorist?).<br />
I agree this car is not a &#8220;Chinese&#8221; car, but, it still a good car.</p>
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		<title>By: Cloud Zhang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cloud Zhang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 01:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, this car dosen&#039;t look like any BMW car, though it have some BMW styles. Really take pride in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, this car dosen&#8217;t look like any BMW car, though it have some BMW styles. Really take pride in it.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2006 21:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># deisgned by Pinifarina
# built w/ bmw technology &amp; tools
# using engines from Mitsubishi

K... how does this qualify as a &quot;Chinese&quot; car?

I recently saw a road test by the ADAC (Germany) of the &quot;1st chinese suv&quot;: they crashed that sht at 45km/h and the test dummy inside was almost decapitated by the steering wheel &amp; steering column! 

&#039;fourse it cost less than $10,000 -- so what? event a minor fender-bender might be deadly in one of these things!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># deisgned by Pinifarina<br />
# built w/ bmw technology &amp; tools<br />
# using engines from Mitsubishi</p>
<p>K&#8230; how does this qualify as a &#8220;Chinese&#8221; car?</p>
<p>I recently saw a road test by the ADAC (Germany) of the &#8220;1st chinese suv&#8221;: they crashed that sht at 45km/h and the test dummy inside was almost decapitated by the steering wheel &amp; steering column! </p>
<p>&#8216;fourse it cost less than $10,000 &#8212; so what? event a minor fender-bender might be deadly in one of these things!</p>
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		<title>By: 666</title>
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		<dc:creator>666</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2006 18:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SEXY</description>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007-zhonghua-jinjue-chinas-bmw.html/comment-page-1#comment-4880</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2006 02:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If they had any talent, they wouldn&#039;t go about ripping people off.  They would be original.  You would think that out of 3 billion people 1 might have original thoughts and ideas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they had any talent, they wouldn&#8217;t go about ripping people off.  They would be original.  You would think that out of 3 billion people 1 might have original thoughts and ideas.</p>
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		<title>By: Guyver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guyver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2006 08:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI The joint venture between Brilliance and BMW has been building new BMW E60 and E90 in China for 2 years. 
M.Benz is starting new S class production in China this year. 

Pininfarina + BMW - Bangle, Got any better formula for an umltimate driver machine?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI The joint venture between Brilliance and BMW has been building new BMW E60 and E90 in China for 2 years.<br />
M.Benz is starting new S class production in China this year. </p>
<p>Pininfarina + BMW &#8211; Bangle, Got any better formula for an umltimate driver machine?</p>
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		<title>By: Tiger98</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tiger98</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2006 01:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This car is definitely a look alike fo the current 5-series but only looks better (except the C-pillar).   Chris Bangle, you should see this piece of design.  How about use it as the facelift for the 5-series next year? :)

The concern over things &#039;made in China&#039; is just a repeat from the same shout during the 80&#039;s when everything is &#039;made in Japan&#039;.  You don&#039;t worry about the Japanese anymore?  Or because they are building Toyotas, Honda, Nissans here in the same soil?  Why the Detriot brands only sells in the States?  Why Toyotas, Honda, BMWs, M-Bs are selling in the world, not just one state or continent?  You should know the answer my friend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This car is definitely a look alike fo the current 5-series but only looks better (except the C-pillar).   Chris Bangle, you should see this piece of design.  How about use it as the facelift for the 5-series next year? <img src='http://www.leftlanenews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The concern over things &#8216;made in China&#8217; is just a repeat from the same shout during the 80&#8217;s when everything is &#8216;made in Japan&#8217;.  You don&#8217;t worry about the Japanese anymore?  Or because they are building Toyotas, Honda, Nissans here in the same soil?  Why the Detriot brands only sells in the States?  Why Toyotas, Honda, BMWs, M-Bs are selling in the world, not just one state or continent?  You should know the answer my friend.</p>
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		<title>By: Moody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 10:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#24 - if you had actually read the post, you would know that the car was designed by Pininfarina, an Italian coachbuilder. As far as pollution - they have a growing economy and the cheapest source of energy available to them is soft coal, which pollutes much more than the other kind (not sure about the names of either). 

This is purely speculation - they disdain smog control because regulating it would dampen the growth of their economy. The United States, for the same reason, walked away from the Kyoto council dealy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#24 &#8211; if you had actually read the post, you would know that the car was designed by Pininfarina, an Italian coachbuilder. As far as pollution &#8211; they have a growing economy and the cheapest source of energy available to them is soft coal, which pollutes much more than the other kind (not sure about the names of either). </p>
<p>This is purely speculation &#8211; they disdain smog control because regulating it would dampen the growth of their economy. The United States, for the same reason, walked away from the Kyoto council dealy.</p>
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		<title>By: jim sanders</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim sanders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 09:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GM&#039;s largest profits come from sales in China.
We do it to them, they do it to us, the world goes round and round.  One day Ethiopia gets its own car company, and we&#039;ll complain why those diseased Africans are allowed to manufacture and export cars.  Inferior countries should know to stay in their place and only buy from world super powers, never sell back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GM&#8217;s largest profits come from sales in China.<br />
We do it to them, they do it to us, the world goes round and round.  One day Ethiopia gets its own car company, and we&#8217;ll complain why those diseased Africans are allowed to manufacture and export cars.  Inferior countries should know to stay in their place and only buy from world super powers, never sell back.</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 04:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was just talking about this to someone earlier. McCarthyism is still going strong, so long after the government gave up on it.  

McCarthy would be grinning from ear to ear, hearing everyone yell &quot;the communists are coming!&quot;  Cheap labour in foreign countries is here to stay.  Sucks for anyone with an American manufacturing job, but it&#039;s a fact of life.  It seems far fetched now, but things like this are the first step toward a truely global economy, and who knows, maybe in 50 years, there will be very little difference in the US and China.  Seems like it could be more than possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just talking about this to someone earlier. McCarthyism is still going strong, so long after the government gave up on it.  </p>
<p>McCarthy would be grinning from ear to ear, hearing everyone yell &#8220;the communists are coming!&#8221;  Cheap labour in foreign countries is here to stay.  Sucks for anyone with an American manufacturing job, but it&#8217;s a fact of life.  It seems far fetched now, but things like this are the first step toward a truely global economy, and who knows, maybe in 50 years, there will be very little difference in the US and China.  Seems like it could be more than possible.</p>
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		<title>By: baserunner</title>
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		<dc:creator>baserunner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 03:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well!  Another product makes in CHINA. We all know it is another knock off.</description>
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		<title>By: Moody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 02:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s nice to have a real debate going! :D

I may have been completely wrong - I&#039;m just basing what I&#039;m saying on stuff I&#039;ve read in car rags and autoblogs, which may not be the best source for this kind of economic information.

I can see what you&#039;re saying about the tariffs, Jim, I mean look at Great Britain&#039;s transformation into an economic superpower following the industrial revolution. They allowed their home grown industrial complex to flourish by heavily tariffing imports in many areas. They then relaxed the tariffs and went on a free trade crusade because they had managed to be able to produce more goods more cheaply than their competitors. I can definitely see how this is analogous to the situation with China and the US. On the other hand, you can&#039;t honestly say that the car industry isn&#039;t suffering tremendously from the poor quality of the majority of its products. I&#039;m sure there are other issues; maybe the quality issue is merely ancillary in importance to some, but still. 

About the Chinese, though - were the Russian people responsible for Stalin&#039;s atrocities? - same kind of thing. Or, for that matter, were the European powers, who created a great demand for slaves, responsible for slavery in the latter half of the 20th century? Or were the Africans, some of which states...

You know what? I&#039;m just gonna end it like this:

People, by and large, are physically and mentally the same. All Chinese are not crazy free-press-hating wanna-be-despots. The idea that they are is where bigotry and racism start. Don&#039;t forget that WE interned thousands of Asians during World War II, helped install pro-america despots in many South American, African and Middle-Eastern countries... I&#039;m not going to get into more contemporary stuff, cuz that&#039;s just flame bait.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s nice to have a real debate going! <img src='http://www.leftlanenews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I may have been completely wrong &#8211; I&#8217;m just basing what I&#8217;m saying on stuff I&#8217;ve read in car rags and autoblogs, which may not be the best source for this kind of economic information.</p>
<p>I can see what you&#8217;re saying about the tariffs, Jim, I mean look at Great Britain&#8217;s transformation into an economic superpower following the industrial revolution. They allowed their home grown industrial complex to flourish by heavily tariffing imports in many areas. They then relaxed the tariffs and went on a free trade crusade because they had managed to be able to produce more goods more cheaply than their competitors. I can definitely see how this is analogous to the situation with China and the US. On the other hand, you can&#8217;t honestly say that the car industry isn&#8217;t suffering tremendously from the poor quality of the majority of its products. I&#8217;m sure there are other issues; maybe the quality issue is merely ancillary in importance to some, but still. </p>
<p>About the Chinese, though &#8211; were the Russian people responsible for Stalin&#8217;s atrocities? &#8211; same kind of thing. Or, for that matter, were the European powers, who created a great demand for slaves, responsible for slavery in the latter half of the 20th century? Or were the Africans, some of which states&#8230;</p>
<p>You know what? I&#8217;m just gonna end it like this:</p>
<p>People, by and large, are physically and mentally the same. All Chinese are not crazy free-press-hating wanna-be-despots. The idea that they are is where bigotry and racism start. Don&#8217;t forget that WE interned thousands of Asians during World War II, helped install pro-america despots in many South American, African and Middle-Eastern countries&#8230; I&#8217;m not going to get into more contemporary stuff, cuz that&#8217;s just flame bait.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 02:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;And hate the Chinese government, if anyone, not the Chinese people; they&#039;ve done nothing wrong.&lt;/i&gt;

so is china run by foreigners? please.

&lt;i&gt;The reason the &quot;indigenous manufacturing base&quot; is collapsing, at least as far as cars (and American-grown cars at that as a number of other countries are creating car factories in the states) is because the cars they build, on the whole, suck.&lt;/i&gt;

another unbelievably misinformed comment. 

as aerospace and automobile manufacture goes, so goes our economy. if we allow china to sell cars here without a fair trade tarriff, then the re-education of our society has become complete and we deserve the decimation that follows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>And hate the Chinese government, if anyone, not the Chinese people; they&#8217;ve done nothing wrong.</i></p>
<p>so is china run by foreigners? please.</p>
<p><i>The reason the &#8220;indigenous manufacturing base&#8221; is collapsing, at least as far as cars (and American-grown cars at that as a number of other countries are creating car factories in the states) is because the cars they build, on the whole, suck.</i></p>
<p>another unbelievably misinformed comment. </p>
<p>as aerospace and automobile manufacture goes, so goes our economy. if we allow china to sell cars here without a fair trade tarriff, then the re-education of our society has become complete and we deserve the decimation that follows.</p>
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		<title>By: shorty114</title>
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		<dc:creator>shorty114</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 01:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s not a bad design. If they can match BMW&#039;s quality, or at least come close, and sell it for way less, it&#039;d be a winner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s not a bad design. If they can match BMW&#8217;s quality, or at least come close, and sell it for way less, it&#8217;d be a winner.</p>
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		<title>By: Moody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 01:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason the &quot;indigenous manufacturing base&quot; is collapsing, at least as far as cars (and American-grown cars at that as a number of other countries are creating car factories in the states) is because the cars they build, on the whole, suck. Sure, they&#039;re (or at least Daimler Chrysler, and POSSIBLY Ford) starting to get their act together, but come on!

About this car, though - I think it looks nice, I&#039;d even consider buying it after a few years after learning about possible reliability issues.

One other thing - as much as China purports itself to be communist - it ain&#039;t. And hate the Chinese government, if anyone, not the Chinese people; they&#039;ve done nothing wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason the &#8220;indigenous manufacturing base&#8221; is collapsing, at least as far as cars (and American-grown cars at that as a number of other countries are creating car factories in the states) is because the cars they build, on the whole, suck. Sure, they&#8217;re (or at least Daimler Chrysler, and POSSIBLY Ford) starting to get their act together, but come on!</p>
<p>About this car, though &#8211; I think it looks nice, I&#8217;d even consider buying it after a few years after learning about possible reliability issues.</p>
<p>One other thing &#8211; as much as China purports itself to be communist &#8211; it ain&#8217;t. And hate the Chinese government, if anyone, not the Chinese people; they&#8217;ve done nothing wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Mookie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mookie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 00:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>annoymous: &quot;rascist mofo&quot;

Thats always the argument from people who don&#039;t have the brain power to formulate a legitimate argument.  ie. immigration - we must be racist to want secure borders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>annoymous: &#8220;rascist mofo&#8221;</p>
<p>Thats always the argument from people who don&#8217;t have the brain power to formulate a legitimate argument.  ie. immigration &#8211; we must be racist to want secure borders.</p>
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		<title>By: nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 22:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do agree with Jim. If the Chinese can build a car that is well built, stylish, has a good warranty and is priced below all competitors our auto manufacturing will be in serious trouble along with the Japenese automakers.

For those that think it cannot happen continue dreaming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do agree with Jim. If the Chinese can build a car that is well built, stylish, has a good warranty and is priced below all competitors our auto manufacturing will be in serious trouble along with the Japenese automakers.</p>
<p>For those that think it cannot happen continue dreaming.</p>
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		<title>By: nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 22:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They can&#039;t get sued. Did you actually read the article? BMW helped with the setup.</description>
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		<title>By: Napoleondyna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Napoleondyna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 22:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks too much like a BMW, someones getting sued.</description>
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		<title>By: nick</title>
		<link>http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007-zhonghua-jinjue-chinas-bmw.html/comment-page-1#comment-4398</link>
		<dc:creator>nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 21:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TYPICAL COMMUNIST IDEOLOGY, &quot;TAKE WHAT THE WEST HAS BEST(BMW AUTOMOBILES AS A WHOLE) COPY THIER MOST POPULAR MODEL THIS YEAR (THE 5 SERIES), SLAP A COUPLE OF CHINESE EMBLEMS ON IT AND BOAST THAT THEY HAVE REPRODUCED, SOMETHING JUST AS GREAT AND AFFORDABLE...&quot;, CRAP, DOES IT COME W/ A WARRENTY???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TYPICAL COMMUNIST IDEOLOGY, &#8220;TAKE WHAT THE WEST HAS BEST(BMW AUTOMOBILES AS A WHOLE) COPY THIER MOST POPULAR MODEL THIS YEAR (THE 5 SERIES), SLAP A COUPLE OF CHINESE EMBLEMS ON IT AND BOAST THAT THEY HAVE REPRODUCED, SOMETHING JUST AS GREAT AND AFFORDABLE&#8230;&#8221;, CRAP, DOES IT COME W/ A WARRENTY???</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 21:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rascist mofo</description>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 21:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>celebrating the $1/hour chinese auto industry? 

do i really hear that from commenters here?

get real, folks. the last 10 years of not paying attention to where the stuff you buy comes from is OVER. 

and that includes cars. if you believe &quot;free&quot; trade is a good thing, i hope you&#039;re independently wealthy and not concerned about the complete destruction of our indigenous manufacturing base. 

for the rest of us, cars like this are the beginning of the ultimate battle of the US versus china. period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>celebrating the $1/hour chinese auto industry? </p>
<p>do i really hear that from commenters here?</p>
<p>get real, folks. the last 10 years of not paying attention to where the stuff you buy comes from is OVER. </p>
<p>and that includes cars. if you believe &#8220;free&#8221; trade is a good thing, i hope you&#8217;re independently wealthy and not concerned about the complete destruction of our indigenous manufacturing base. </p>
<p>for the rest of us, cars like this are the beginning of the ultimate battle of the US versus china. period.</p>
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