Is there a gasoline engine for the US?

Seems very similar to the current one, just added new lights front and back. However, this is a truck that has a classic history, and should not really be messed with. At least it’s not just a supersized RAV4, like the new Highlander.

Oh yipee. Another big box on wheels. Can we call in a coalition air strike?

whoa, look at the last two pics of the rear end….
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as u can see, the taillights are sticking out a lot! It’s dumb.
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Keep it in low volume…. like at 10,000. Thank you very much. All the gas left for us in smaller cars at the gas stations!!

The landcruiser is globally respected as the best 4×4, its the first choice for anyone heading into deserts around the world and is only really rivalled by Nissan’s Patrol. Not sure that air-suspension, running boards and over-styled lights are a good direction for this model.

Still the absolute best SUV at any price. I hope they don’t mess with the off road capabilities.

i bet it gets worse milage than the equlivant chevy or GMC

Sigh….As usual, the same boring **** from toy ota.

Boring? This is by far the #1 4WD in the world. The Landcruiser isn’t about gas mileage (it gets over 1000km on a single tank of fuel by the way, that’s all that matters in terms of ‘gas mileage’, not some MPG crap) or excitement, it’s about being extremely reliable and tough. The fact that the majority of them are diesels also means Toyota could care less about any American SUV, this is a REAL 4×4 used all around the world for more than towing a boat around and driving to Wal-Mart.

Cant say much about looks but when will the change the wheel design?!
Oh and it’s gonna be a big hit in the middle east even it looks fugly

>>Boring? This is by far the #1 4WD in the world. The Landcruiser isn’t about gas mileage (it gets over 1000km on a single tank of fuel by the way, that’s all that matters in terms of ‘gas mileage’, not some MPG crap) or excitement, it’s about being extremely reliable and tough. The fact that the majority of them are diesels also means Toyota could care less about any American SUV, this is a REAL 4×4 used all around the world for more than towing a boat around and driving to Wal-Mart.

Comment by SV, posted on February13 at 2:58 am

“Boring? This is by far the #1 4WD in the world. The Landcruiser isn’t about gas mileage (it gets over 1000km on a single tank of fuel by the way, that’s all that matters in terms of ‘gas mileage’, not some MPG crap) or excitement, it’s about being extremely reliable and tough. The fact that the majority of them are diesels also means Toyota could care less about any American SUV, this is a REAL 4×4 used all around the world for more than towing a boat around and driving to Wal-Mart.

Comment by SV, posted on February13 at 2:58 am ”

SV - STEP AWAY FROM THE TOYOTA CRACK PIPE. A real 4×4? Yeah, right. Look at those flimsy running boards, cheesy plastic body cladding all around, and about as much ground clearance as a Camry. This thing is a grocery getter for soccer moms and nothing more. A Tahoe 4×4 with the Z71 package will walk all over this thing off road.

A Toyota FJ is a serious 4×4. A LandCruiser is not (anymore).

I agree somewhat with europerspective and totally with SV. It isnt trying to compete with the likes of the escalade or X5 and it sure isnt trying to take over the place of the 60s land rover or 4×4 ute used on many farms, its somewhere in the middle that has proved to very successful place to be for many years. Good on you Toyota… if it aint broke… dont fix it.

It still looks like it’ll keep the Land Cruiser look which is good. When you are buying a behemoth like this, you don’t worry if it gets a couple of miles to the gallon less than a Chevy or GMC Naggs lol. You are buying this because you have the money to waste. It’s one of the best SUVs you can get. Safe and boring- yes. Reliable, well-built, and efficient- yes!

I love the double standard you guys have. A Tahoe is intended for middle class people, the Land Cruiser is obviously for upper middle class. So the LC should have a better interior, quality etc. Yet the Tahoe catches all sorts of flack being called a pig etc, but it all good for the LC, who cares if it sucks up the gas like its going out of style. lol At least I did hear some guys at the top of the board that seemed a little less biased (Madcap, S-60).

My cousin in Arizona has a LC. He sends pics of his “expeditions” with the JEEP crew to me every once in a while. That thing is up with the LandRovers in terms of capability. F’n lame ass tank like a Suburban/Tahoe would be stuck on the first dirt road it found never mind trying to keep up with the LC offroad. Othernot-so-known vehicles that are just as capable is the Mitsu Montero and Isuzu Trooper.

Another Snottsdale, AZ big-wheeled stationwagon that’ll never see a trail. Thanks, Japan Inc. Just keep taking U$ cash from the rich-n-vain-n-stupid.

…”This is by far the #1 4WD in the world.” …

Uhh, to set the record straight, the H1 Humvee is the #1 4×4 in the world. It’s just too bad they don’t make a civilian model anymore.

In terms of off-roading, I’d take my XTerra over a Land Cruiser any day. If I want to make a trip in leather bound heated seats, I’ll consider it, but will probably go with the Tahoe or H2. Nice truck though

The Landcrusier’s a beast, always been a good SUV

“My cousin in Arizona has a LC. He sends pics of his “expeditions” with the JEEP crew to me every once in a while. That thing is up with the LandRovers in terms of capability. F’n lame ass tank like a Suburban/Tahoe would be stuck on the first dirt road it found never mind trying to keep up with the LC offroad.
Comment by GarbageMotorsCo, posted on February13 at 9:43 am ”

You have no idea what you’re talking about. You don’t even off road - your “cousin” does supposedly. Evidence of your ignorance is you mentioned a Suburban the same as a Tahoe for off roading. I own a Suburban 4×4, and while it does very well off road (it’ll run over the new LandCruiser), it is not the best off roader due to its very long wheelbase, nearly 2 feet longer than a Tahoe. The Tahoe is much better off road than a Suburban. Any off roader will tell you that, and you lumping the Suburban in the same class as the Tahoe in terms of off roading prowess shows your ignorance.

“Othernot-so-known vehicles that are just as capable is the Mitsu Montero and Isuzu Trooper. ”

Yeah, when they actually run. Sorry, but the Montero and Trooper are total pieces of junk in terms of durability and reliability. Good ground clearance and maneuverability doesn’t do you much good when you’ve got a broken transfer case, driveshaft, tie rod, etc.

Another environmently friendly grocery getter for the suburban mom that has no idea how to park one on her daily trips to the shopping mall. So much for oil prices!

hehe so by the looks of it Toyota is going for the new super-size me RAV-4 vs. Subu Forrester look on all their SUVs, whcich is a real shame because I actually quite like the current Land Cruiser, espcially the Cygnus/Lexus LX470. Although I’ll reserve further judgement on that until it sheds its masks.

personally im not too fond of toyota products, or any other japanese manufacturer. Although I must say that when i rode in one of the Land Cruisers it drover like a dream. Same goes for the Camry with its pig-face, although sedans should be more performance orientated and shouldn’t be as sterile and isolated.

Anyhow, i hope the Land Cruiser keeps its great off road skills, and i’ll leave the discussion as to which car is best off road to the experts.

Nice SUV!!!!!:)

hey where is the oilinvester paragraph that always shows up on the suv pages?
oh thats rite this is not a gm so it gets 1 milloon mpg.
gm#1 where are you also isnt this going to randomly explode in the streets?

anyways the double standard is only for gm vehicles, and if i wanted a toyota 4 x 4 it would be the fj, this is no more useful in the u.s. than an h2.
but if you need to go get groceries or pick up the soccer kids this is a good choice you never know when you need to use your air suspension to go over potholes.

Yawnmobile

^ That’s not what he said dink. What he said is that GM builds decent off roading machines. Not the best. Not the worst. But then again, it’s difficult to decern that when you have a ‘if you’re not with us, you’re against us’ attitude.

The ‘everything domestic sucks’ mantra is just so tiring.

Z06ified, all i can say is that you know as much about off-road vehicles as I know about rocket science (and by off-road I don’t mean driving on snow but driving in remote rocky areas with high inclination angles). Tahoe is not an off-road vehicle, it’s an enlarged van just like 95% of the so called SUV driving on the roads these days, it would get stuck on the first mud hole. Tahoe has no real off-roading mechanics (no engine is not everything when it comes to off-roading). Tahoe has no on-demand locking center differential, no low-range transfer case and skid plates, along with a stability control system that assists off-road. The real off-road vehicles left on this planet are scarce but they include Land Rover, Hummer H1 and somewhat H2, most of the Jeeps, definately Landcruiser, and definately the king of the Dakar, Mitsubishi Pajero which when you actually look at the statistics is a much better built and more reliable vehicle than any of your GM offerings.

Yay, another off-road vehicle that will be purchased primarily by school moms.

lol! Blitzkrieg, you should do some research before you go off on an ignorant rant…
http://www.chevrolet.com/pop/tahoe/2007/z71_en.jsp
Personally, I love the running boards on the once-was-an-off-roading-legend, the Land Cruiser. Running boards certainly are the first things I would outfit my vehicle with. ANNNGGG!!! There’s a huge difference between what is offered stock on a vehicle fresh off the manufacturing line and what is bolted on in the after market. The Land Cruiser is no more of an off roader today than the Range Rover, Grand Cherokee, or the Tahoe when it comes to stock offerings. Clearance, mechanics, they’re virtually the same. They are both suited for general purpose. They are all luxury vehicles. If the Land Cruiser is such a devil, then what is the FJ Cruiser being built for? Why not just offer a Land Cruiser without all of the doo-dads, including the running boards?

By the way, by your standards most of the Jeeps do NOT qualify. If you think a Compass, Liberty, or Commander are real off roading vehicles, and that is “most” of them, then I would say you are no more enlightened in this recreational sport than those you accuse. I’m sure that was a slip of tongue, so maybe next time you won’t be so judgmental.

So… has the FJ Curiser now become the only Toyota 4WD non-truck capable of serious off-roading? Land Cruisers of years’ past were renown worldwide. This one doesn’t look like it will do much “Land Cruising” to me with its low side sills under the doors and low ride height.

LOL@Piablo, dude, have you actually read all the information on the link you provided to me? Again, where is the on-demand locking front/center/rear differential? Where is where is the low-range transfer case and skid plates? Where is the kinetic suspension? Oh wait wait, Z71 does have oversized wheel flares, chrome door handles, and off-road tires. :S Jeeez people, can you please read the information before you’ll provide it? I will repeat again, Tahoe (including Z71) is no match for LandCruiser, Pajero, Defender, Grand Cherokee, Hummer 1 and 2 when it comes to off-roading.

http://www.forbesautos.com/advice/toptens/off-road/suvs.html?partner=aol

The Land Cruiser we get is totally different from what the rest of the world gets from engines to number of doors the way it’s equiped….I think we get the turd of the bunch but in typical Toyota fashion they have figured out who buys these things and markets it to them. People with money will buy it and be afraid to scratch it taking it offroad here and in south america where it can be had with no luxury features 2 doors and a diesel engine it get beat to **** offroad. Toyota is famous for completely changing a vehicles equipment and specs for different markets, here the Land Cruiser is a “premium SUV”. The FJ Cruiser is somewhat like what other parts of the world can get in thier Land Cruiser although it still has all the stupid **** you should never put in a true offroader like power everything.

Someone else read the Tahoe specs to blitzkreig, I’ve lost patience.

Piablo, better yet, I’ll copy and paste the info from the link you provided to here:
* The legendary Z71 suspension
* New 18-inch aluminum wheels
* On-/off-road tires
* Automatic locking rear differential
* High-pressure shocks
* Oversized wheel flares
* Satin chrome door handles, tubular assist steps and mirror caps
* Z71-specific front fascia with rectangular foglamps and satin chrome grille insert
* Skid Plate Package
* Z71 badging (”Z71″ on 2WD, “Z71 4×4″ on 4×4)
* 4×4 models feature the Autotrac system
* Leather-appointed Ebony seats that can be accented with Morocco Brown or Light Titanium inserts
* Brushed metal appearance on the instrument panel, on the instrument panel, center stack, steering wheel and door panels
* Z71-specific gauge cluster

I don’t like repeating myself but again, please show me where does it say that Tahoe has a on-demand locking front/center/rear differential? It say it has an automatic (bad) rear locking differential (basically not as advanced nor as capable as center locking differential which all of my mentioned cars have). And whats worse, where is the low-range transfer case with skid plates? I know you are a fan of Chevy but come on, Tahoe is a nice car, it’s just that it is not a capable off-road machine like the above mentioned cars.

LMAO! That god damn article cites a Range Rover Sport as one of the top 10. What next, the Porsche Cayenne? I’m surprised he didn’t cite a Toyota Sienna. What a great article. Where in hell is the Rubicon? Grand Cherokee beats the Rubicon?? An H2 as the #2 off roader out there? I love Hummer, the H2 is not in the top 10. Where’s the H3?? Don’t even get me started on taking a frickin Lexus out on a dirt road. Forbes Autos, the AUTHORITY in off road ratings.

^^Both the Range Rover Sport and the Cayenne are great offroaders too…

on the car: the LC is an icon, as the Range Rover and the Benz G-Class (which reminded me, forbes didn’t mentioned the G!). is good that they keep the “land-cruisiness”.

I wanna know how many buyers of these vehicles out of 1000 actually do any off-roading.

I’ll bet both my nuts it’s a fraction of 1.

Piablo, my son, actually it just shows you know nothing about real off-roaders. Porsche Cayenne is actually based on VW Touareg which in fact is also a very capable off-road vehicle, it offers center locking differential and low range transmission case (something your Tahoe doesn’t, and something that makes an off-road vehicle a more capable off-road vehicle).
And how come an H2 is a better off-roader than Tahoe, well lets see, H2 has an approach angle of about 40 degrees, 2007 Tahoe about 17 degrees, enough said.

And those Lexus cars you are laughing at are derivatives of Toyota Land Cruiser (also come with center lock diff, and low range trans case as well as far better approach angles than Tahoe), so it just shows you know nothing about REAL off-road performance. Look at Pajero and its very short front overhang, do you think this was done just for the hell of it? It was designed with real off-roading in mind as it drastically improves approach angles.

I am not here to completely down Tahoe, just to prove that Tahoe is just not a capable off-road machine. However soccer moms should take advantage of it’s gas guzzling ability, and no, the V8 Tahoe doesn’t get 20 MPG, more like 12 MPG, I know because my friend has one and is already complaining that he should have taken QX56 over this as QX56 is a larer and more comfortable vehicle than Tahoe and gets better real world MPG.

You got me with “gas guzzling”. Suddenly I understand what i am dealing with. What do I have to come back with now? I really have to look into this ‘ignorance is bliss’ thing. You kids are having too much fun with it.

tahoe off road LOL thats funny, land rover for off road beside H1 yes it can off road but you need a mobile pump station with you… toyota has some nice off road vehicles the dakar we call it here lego car differential SUX big time FJ or land cruiser are far better off road vehicles…

LOL, Piablo, anyway you look at it, Tahoe is not a real off-road vehicle. Land Cruiser, LR3, Range Rover, H1, H2, Grand Cherokee, Pajero those are real off-roaders. I didn’t mention Defender and Mercedes G cuz they are not widely available here but those are also top class off-road machines. Tahoe, Navigator, Escalade are not off-road vehicles. And unlike US, people in Australia, Asia, Africa, or Europe buy those off-road vehicles to actually do some utility with it, not a s a status symbol, I am not saying all of them but most of them, thats why those cars are not “pretty”, they look squared for a reason, ulility over aesthetics.

piablo, i see landcruisers and range rovers being pulled from the sand by tacomas all the time, how many people go buy theese very capable offraod machines to drive on the streets, almost all of them. i am definately positive a good driver in a z71 can go everywhere the landcruiser can,there are a lot of good offroad vehicles not on the forbes list, tacomas,colorado/canyon,h3,exterra/4runner and so on. anyways a decent driver can get anywhere, i have a frontier that goes everywhere, never has it got stuck in anything,sand,mud or snow.

Anyone know the score between blitzkrieg79 and Piablo??? I Love it!!!

CTS DRIVER, I have a Lancer EVO and it also hasn’t ever got stuck in sand mud, or snow, it has taken everything I throw at it, but then again I know what real off-roading is and I would never attempt to do it with it.

I have also seen a 4 cyl sedan car pulling out a Tacoma truck out of a ditch.

Again, we are talking about top extreme off-roading acts on this planet, not only some bumps or little of snow on a paved road. All of your mentioned cars (except I think Frontier which if I am not mistaking does offer center lock diff package) are not top off-road performers. And yeah, I agree with you that a decent driver can get anywhere, if I would be stubborn enough I would take my EVO off-roading and I bet I wouldn’t get stuck on the first uphill, but then again I know the limitations of my car and some people don’t.

To make it all short, good off-roading machines has to have an approach angle of at least 30 degrees, can submerge in water at 25 inches or more, has center lock differential where when needed the engine sends all its power to one wheel when the other 3 wheels are stuck in the air. Hmmmm, come to think of it, I should have started this discussion with a question of what is the definition of a good off-roader in your mind? Maybe we have different expectations.

i fully understand your point, i did say they are extremely capable, just most drivers are not. seriously there is this couple that brings their vr4 up to deep creek hotsprings, it looks verry funny sitting there with jeeps and such. im not trying to butt in, but i know the toyota and range rovers are extremely great offroaders and they are definately better for people who cant offroad (soudns funny while i type it) as they are way more forgiving. a good offroader can get there in anything, but i am glad the old days of getting out of the truck and turning the clumsy differential locks is long gone, what a pain that was. I did mention the colorado/canyon only beacuse they have a decent creeper gear, and those tacomas is there anywhere they cant go? The center lock argument is a very good point for those who dont know their limitations as you do, but i do want to see a 4×4 with 1 wheel on the ground and 3 in the air

joseph - if you find out, let me know too.

CTS Driver, That is the single most important aspect in off roading, very good point. The best equipment in the world will not help if they don’t have the talent.

Blitzkrieg, I’m not going to beat this discussion to death, this is my last comment. The Tahoe is not a bad off roader and as I stated, it’s decent but certainly not the best. I put the Land Cruiser in there with it, even with all of it’s 18 locking differentials in the front center rear and glove compartment. The Land Cruiser is decent too. But it’s not what it use to be. Any vehicle that comes standard with running boards is simply not ’serious’. The Land Cruiser today, in the USA, is a luxury SUV. The XTerra, the Rubicon, The H1, The FJ Cruiser… those are serious. And so I don’t have to hear you mention the damn Pajero again, the Pajero is serious too. You compare the Land Cruiser to those vehicles, and it has a lot less in common with them than it does with the Tahoe, or more closely the Denali or Escalade. I’ll even give you that the Land Cruiser is better equipped than the Tahoe, but I don’t agree it’s a serious off roader anymore. And certainly not to be considered even close to the top 10.

I see that Z06 guy has an american poll up his ass. Always hating on imports. Maybe if the American brands spends more time building quality stuff, they wont be in the situation they are now. As for the LC, they are used in many countries not for high class rides. Look up past antarctica expeditions, they are using the LC. Jungles of many Asian countries, the LC is there. So shut ur American loving red neck ass up.