I don’t know about y’all, but I’m getting really tired of that face Dodge is putting on everything. Everything looks like it’d rather be a truck. To my eyes, this “update” is a step backwards; the previous face was much more distinctive IMO. I know that everyone is trying to define a common look to their styling so that we can all recognize a Dodge, or a Chevy, or a Ford, or whatever when we see one, but this particular look just doesn’t do it for me.

I think Dodge would have been much better off to have spent the money on the interior, rather than this nose job. These are kind of cool looking cars, but the interior is horrible, with way too many hard edges, hard surfaces and monotone gray. Ugh.

Disappointing, but not altogether unexpected – seems like Dodge and Chrysler have a love affair with “retro” styling from the 80’s as of late. With each updated model, DCX cements it’s well-deserved moniker of being the one-hit wonder company of the automotive industry.

I like the headlights now. I hate reflector style (the old ones) and always like the reflector style that every manufacturer seems to be doing.

I swear that the grey photos are B&W images with photoshopped turn signals! They look awful!

I agree with Scott. this looks like it should have been the predecessor to the current one, not the new face-lifted model. I hate that dodge trys to put the same grille on every car, back in their hayday, every car had a differn’t design.

A subtle yet much improved change. The smaller headlights fit better in proportion to the rest of the front and kill the “moonfaced” look of the Magnum. Definitely like this.

I think it looks better and it’s still one of the most unique designs. This is the only wagon I’d buy for the design. I just wish the interior quality was there.

front end looks substantially better than the current one.

No interior shots and if I am to understand correctly, that is where the bigest change is.

p.s. what are all these great mids doing blogging when auto makers need help.. Call DCX, they’ll give you a job :tard:.. LMAO.

HOTT i want one. like it alot. still i think they should get more bhp from the 6.1 liter engine. id take this over the M5 wagon on the other page. ok i know the M5 is better in every which way but this is way cooler. id have mine with 22 inch rims please

55amg, this is not a flame, but I’m just curious… What in your opinion is a decent HP/liter ratio -since you are so hung up on the subject? You know that HP is not the end-all when it comes to different types of cars.

no im just wondering why like in european and japanese cars they can get more hp from smaller displacement engines than american cars. but actually i just calculated this one out, its quite ok. the figures just didnt look decent in the first place

6.1L 425 HP?why DCX?!
Ferrari can get 800bhp with a 6.2L

WHY DONT THEY TAKE A NOTE from Audi?in the 80’s they where hated in the us but they engineered their cars to perfection now they can get 425bhp from a 4.2L V8, THE SAME AS THE 6.1L hemi! Now the domestics are getting too complacent playing the patriotic card to sell sub-standard, out dated cars, but sadly US car buyers can see though this pathetic facade.

come on America STOP being lazy with your car engineering because this is a joke.

Oddglat, I speak to you as one does to a small child: you are not seeing the whole picture and it involves more than peak horsepower.

Now, go color in your book. Good boy.

Yes, the imported engines do manage to squeeze more power from smaller powerplants but at what cost? I’m pretty sure durability and the cost of engine parts play a part in the equation as well. Seems everything inside a Ferrari engine is made of unobtainium, which causes the prices of engine parts to equal some small cars. American engines may be big but their parts are fairly affordable.

The grille needs chrome around it. Without it the front end looks cheap.

The horsepower per liter argument is the stupidest thing ever. Oh great now we are comparing Audi, BMW and Ferrari to Dodge. Brilliant.

American companies use OHV engines in the lower end cars and OHC in the expensive ones (for the most part).

To me and many other Americans, there is nothing better than the affordability, simplicity (think cheap and easy modifications), SOUND, power, and torque on the low-end that comes from a small block V8.

I like the new front end, much more cleaner it would look awesome in black

or to make it simple american engineering sucks..

all the import bashes can keep their unreliable underpowered tanks.

People who bring up HP/L often lack an understanding of engine design, hence they need HP/L to compare them (despite the fact that it’s not a good measure for such things).

or to make it simple american engineering sucks..

all the import bashes can keep their unreliable underpowered tanks.
Comment by oddglat, posted on January9 at 12:01 pm

Underpowered, yes because we know that every vehicle on the road has over 425 HP and a 0-60 of ~5 s or less…..

thats cool, because its not american engineering you twatsicle
like kosai basically said, blow it out your ass. id love to run over your riced out civic with a magnum packin 6.1 litres and 425 horses.

When I see these, and the silly new Charger, the tune from Deliverance plays in my head…and my visions are not pretty.

what is the damage on the average audi with the 425 horse v8 motor?

I would suspect it is substantially higher than the SRT8 in question lmao.

could it be in the new RS6 which will ding you 75k, and still have reliability problems?

asshat.

This facelift on the Magnum is okay but still boring as watching grass grow. If it were a full body re-dress, then maybe. But no not this time.

I am not a fan of the over-detailed chunky styling DCX is indulging in. If the Challenger looks at least 80-90% in step with the concept then I’m sold.

The engine is pretty good as ever…

For import fans: More displacement = more potential for power. Most modern American “muscle engines” come from NASCAR development, and other auto racing programs. A few minor, bolt-on changes, and a 425HP 6.1L V-8 will easily jump past 600HP. You really can’t do that with a 2.0L 4cyl, at least , without having to buy a new engine that will cost as much as or more than the car you’re putting it in.

Now for a car worth the power that doesn’t cost a small fortune…

I personally wouldn’t have minded Dodge bringing the front end more in line with the Charger.. but then again, it looks like they already did that with the upcoming Avenger, so too many similar faces may not be a great thing. What I find disturbing with the Magnum refresh (and based on spy shots, the upcoming 300 facelift too) is that it is too subtle. These were groundbreaking cars three years ago, no reason not to take a little more risk with the refresh.

55amg said: no im just wondering why like in european and japanese cars they can get more hp from smaller displacement engines than american cars. but actually i just calculated this one out, its quite ok. the figures just didnt look decent in the first place

I noticed that you were ragging on GM’s 3.6 engine just the other day for not making enough power/displacement. This struck me as odd because your name is “55amg.” The 5.5 in the SLK55 amg only makes 355 hp for 5.5 L of displacement. That would give a European car a worse ratio than an American car.

If you think current engine development takes any cues from NASCAR, you’ve been fooled. NASCAR engines are still using 1950s technology. Every automaker in the world has long since moved past NASCAR designs.

The problem with Dodge is their engines are the only thing they have going for them. Their interior and exterior designs are antiquated and cheap. If they fail at designing the engine (425 hp from 6.1L is a failure), there is no reason to buy the vehicle.

55amg: ["european and japanese cars they can get more hp from smaller displacement engines than american cars"]

Oddglat: ["Ferrari can get 800bhp with a 6.2L"]

Here we are again with the HP/liter nonsense
Let’s take the Z06 for example.

Here is the deal: I had $70K, I wanted the best performance, could care less about how they make it. Electric would do, make that in HP/liter
To me the fact that X Japanese or Y German car’s engine makes 100 HP/liter is nothing. My Z06 makes only 72 HP/liter, but 505 HP in total. The total power matters, the weight of the car, the dynamics, the handling, the brakes, etc. The Z06 will stomp over any of those import cars in the same price range. You want to beat my Z06? Then you have to spend 2-3 times more money and even then, it will be a very close race.

You want HP/liter? Get whatever you want for the same money ($70K) and then tell me if your car comes in the same performance league as the C6 Corvette Z06.
Go ahead and overpay for the Japanese or German sports cars.
I have got the best performance I can get for my money.
See you at the race track

never seen so much anger over a Dodge before

not impressive, 6.1 liter and 400 hp? 4cyl can make that w/ a lil modding (sti/evo) anyway, i like quality over quality and imo this thing is lame

anyway its all opinion, mine, you can put polish, modify, bling out any piece of crap…. but it will still always be a fast, blingy, polish piece of crap….
don’t hate….

Lol another reason for the BOD running daimler/chry to split.

lol nice point on the slr and e55 homeboy. Mongoloid, SUPERCHARGED motors in much more expensive cars.. what a retard.. ahahaha.

as for making that power with a little modding on an sti / evo, sure if you consider full exhaust a turbo swap and tune a little modding… lmao.. then you have ****ty low end due to turbo lag.. not to mention ****ty mileage out of a 4 banger..

ahahahaha brainiacs.

I like this front end better than the old one. The Dodge magnum is a masculine vehicle and the old front was soft and curvy, bordering on Voluptuous. This new front end matches the rear better and the overall spirit of the car.
As for the engines. Anyone who believes the 6.1 and the 5.7 s are not great engines and who believes one can get 400 HP from a four banger with anything approaching fluidity, smoothness and reliability is ignorant.

“My, what huge curb weight you have, grandmother!”
“All the better to plow wide in turns, my dear!”

HP/liter is certainly overrated. Engine weight should be factored in, and OHC engines are considerably larger than are OHV, although many OHV are still iron block/aluminum head.

Masculine? LOL there is NOTHING masculine about driving a station wagon. Design all the hard edges and blunt noses you want, you’re still driving a Dodge station wagon. This car is for men who’s wives rule their lives, but somehow convince the wife they need 400HP to haul groceries with. See you in the Wal-Mart parking lot!

My 06 SRT8 draws comments most anywhere I have it. I dont think the 08 is an improvement. I feel the grill is too small, the bumper is too massive and it has lost some of the aggressive look. The scoop is ok but the headlights add to the flattened look. Perhaps some interior improvements will help, the stock exhaust should be louder and the brake dust is troublesome, but for the money it is a leader. I like the Super Wagon and hope it continues to make its mark on the industry.
I love it when I know some BMW or M series person goes to his/her buddies at the office and tells them “a station wagon kicked my butt today”, at 1/2 the price (on some of these mentioned) the Magnum is twice the fun and value.

anyone can beat anyone in a straight line, no skill there (yeah ok prof, drag racing)…. thats why racing on the street is stupid, twisties require more than this wagon can handle….

and if you would take this car over any bmw, even a slow ass one, u have to be one dumb hillbilly
ciao

The LX platform is a fantastic chassis, has never been criticized. People who speak about subjects they know nothing about are the dumb ones.

Nice, I think it looks much better. The “headlight over the fender”" look of pretty ugly, IMO. I’m glad they revamped the styling, it shows that the designers are finally getting a sense of taste – as well as where the headlights belong: in the front, not all over it.

hey Oddgt the dodge magnum isnt supercharged your dumb car is