Damn

Wow… looks amazing.

speechless….

I’ve never been a Porsche fan, but RAWR!

i heard it would be like 520-540 hp…

Zoom with a capital ZOOM. Striking but not “boy-racer” but not extreme like a pro-racer. Nice. Call me when they have the official specs.

that is sick,insane

Some design configurations just never die, they just get better.

man, i really hate these GT2s wings…always have and always will

looks awesome, i love

i want that damn Panamera!

two things:

1. It looks remarkably like the old GT2 with the 997 styling updates. Not bad, but certainly nothing to write home about.

2. Hasn’t the GT2 always been the ultimate 911?

nowei: I think they were probably excluding the outgoing models in that statement.

—————->this car is OFF THEM CHAIN!!! I LOVE ME SOME PORSCHE!!

A world-class automobile—for a reason!

Wasn’t the GT3 the ultimate 911? Or was that the turbo? That’s the problem with the 911 range, anyone with an IQ short of 300 can’t understand it. Aston Martin have one V8 Vantage, one DB9 and two Vanquishes. I dare someone to list me the current 911 range, along with engine details (bhp, turbo or not).

I just don’t see what everyone is going ga-ga about with this car. It looks virtually the same as every other 911 with slightly different ducts, scoops, and vents, a row LED marker lights (which look misplaced), and a ridiculously huge rear wing (got rice?).

The performance will be impressive – that is worth going Oooooh and Aaaaaah over. But the styling? Looks like more of the same ‘ole 911. Nice car, but for $180k+, they can keep it.

I hate it when people black out the bottom middle part of a car’s front bar!!!

“I dare someone to list me the current 911 range, along with engine details (bhp, turbo or not).”
Comment by Aston Martin,

911 Carrera details from Porsche website.
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http://www.porsche.com/usa/models/911/
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911 Carrera
Rear-engine, 3.6 liters, 6 cyl.
325 hp @ 6,800 rpm
273 lb.-ft. @ 4,250 rpm Performance
0-60 mph: 4.8 sec.
Top Track Speed: 177 mph
MSRP $ 72,400.00

911 Carrera S
Rear-engine, 3.8 liters, 6 cyl.
355 hp @ 6,600 rpm
295 lb.-ft. @ 4,250 rpm Performance
0-60 mph: 4.6 sec.
Top Track Speed: 182 mph
MSRP $ 82,600.00

911 Carrera Cabriolet
Rear-engine, 3.6 liters, 6 cyl.
325 hp @ 6,800 rpm
273 lb.-ft. @ 4,250 rpm Performance
0-60 mph: 5.0 sec.
Top Track Speed: 177 mph
MSRP $ 82,600.00

911 Carrera S Cabriolet
Rear-engine, 3.8 liters, 6 cyl.
355 hp @ 6,600 rpm
295 lb.-ft. @ 4,600 rpm Performance
0-60 mph: 4.7 sec.
Top Track Speed: 182 mph
MSRP $ 92,800.00

911 Carrera 4
Rear-engine, 3.6 liters, 6 cyl.
325 hp @ 6,800 rpm
273 lb.-ft. @ 4,250 rpm Performance
0-60 mph: 4.9 sec.
Top Track Speed: 174 mph
MSRP $ 78,200.00

911 Carrera 4S
Rear-engine, 3.8 liters, 6 cyl.
355 hp @ 6,600 rpm
295 lb.-ft. @ 4,600 rpm Performance
0-60 mph: 4.6 sec.
Top Track Speed: 179 mph
MSRP $ 88,400.00

911 Carrera 4 Cabriolet
Rear-engine, 3.6 liters, 6 cyl.
325 hp @ 6,800 rpm
273 lb.-ft. @ 4,250 rpm Performance
0-60 mph: 5.1 sec.
Top Track Speed: 174 mph
MSRP $ 88,400.00

911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet
Rear-engine, 3.8 liters, 6 cyl.
355 hp @ 6,600 rpm
295 lb.-ft. @ 4,600 rpm Performance
0-60 mph: 4.7 sec.
Top Track Speed: 179 mph
MSRP $ 98,600.00

911 Targa 4
Rear-engine, 3.6 liters, 6 cyl.
325 hp @ 6,800 rpm
273 lb.-ft. @ 4,250 rpm Performance
0-60 mph: 5.1 sec.
Top Track Speed: 174 mph
MSRP $ 85,700.00

911 Targa 4S
Rear-engine, 3.8 liters, 6 cyl.
355 hp @ 6,600 rpm
295 lb.-ft. @ 4,600 rpm Performance
0-60 mph: 4.7 sec.
Top Track Speed: 179 mph
MSRP $ 95,900.00

911 Turbo
Rear-engine, 3.6 liters, 6 cyl.
480 hp @ 6,000 rpm
460 lb.-ft. @ 1,950-5,000 rpm Performance
0-60 mph: 3.7 sec.
Top Track Speed: 193 mph
MSRP $ 122,900.00

911 GT3
Rear-engine, 3.6 liters, 6 cyl.
415 hp @ 7,600 rpm
300 lb.-ft. @ 5,500 rpm Performance
0-60 mph: 4.1 sec.
Top Track Speed: 193 mph
MSRP $ 106,000.00

911 GT3 RS
Rear-engine, 3.6 liters, 6 cyl.
415 hp @ 7,600 rpm
300 lb.-ft. @ 5,500 rpm Performance
0-60 mph: 4.0 sec.
Top Track Speed: 193 mph
MSRP $ 123,200.00

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In a nutshell:
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911 Carrera models:
- 911 Carrera (Regular)
- – 911 Carrera Cabriolet
- 911 Carrera 4
- – 911 Carrera 4 Cabriolet
- 911 Carrera 4S
- – 911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet
- 911 Carrera S
- – 911 Carrera S Cabriolet
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911 Targa models:
- 911 Targa 4
- 911 Targa 4S
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Turbo and GT3 models:
- 911 Turbo
- 911 GT3
- 911 GT3 RS
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Other models:
- 911 GT2
- 911 GT3 RSR (racing)
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Holy ****. Thanks for the info.

I actually did know all the models but not all the specs. Maybe that’s not something to brag about HAHA.
Maybe it’s a bit complicated to understand the hierarchy and all the models, but I don’t think there’s any problem with offering so many choices. That way you get exactly what you want. I think it’s brilliant and Porsche can pull it off. I’ve never heard of anyone complaining that they have too many models. They all have their place.

In other news, I AM looking at buying a 911, but not a GT2 unfortunately.

There REALY is no substitute.

Yes there is. A Jaguar XK is much better looking and just as good in other aspects.

Design-wise, Porsche is like Al Bundy, still fixated on his glory days as a quarterback. This general styling was fine about 40 years ago, but Porsche should show some balls and quit living in their damned past. They are interstingly engineered under the skin, but this **** is like Ford revamping a Taurus.

umm this thing would rip an XK to pieces

^ come one now, we all know that he wasn’t comparing an XK to the GT2, this is supposed to be a Ferrari killer it’d better beat a jaguar.

Why the hell do they always test cars in a snowy area?

same reason they test them in the desert or any other harsh climate.

generally a car will be tested in a number of different environments. it just so happens that the spy photographers caught up with this GT2 somewhere in Scandinavia.

And I’m surprised that the Targa can’t be had with RWD… seems strange.

Cobra,
It snows in Germany. Quite a bit.

awesome, but I agree with those of you that say that Porsche needs to take more risk with their styling…Has I sit here typing Im looking at a picture of a 1990 959..its pretty remarkable how much these models resemble each other despite nearly 20 years between them.

Wow, it looks like…a 911. I sure didn’t see that one coming. Porsche has obviously given the German engineers a break “refreshing” (and I use the term loosely, the 911 is the most stale designs on the market), and borrowed some of the staff from Subaru to install an irrationally large and ugly wing on the tail. Oh well, at least it compliments the equally absurd vents on the side just rear of the doors.

The 911 series is like Sophia Loren…those curves never go out of style!

Aaaaah…Sophia…Another masterpiece.

well, its true, another 911… personally, i liked the 996 GT2 better… the front fascia with the blackened middlepart looks like its a tuning prop from the local hardware store, but still.. the GT2 is some hot piece of porsche…

and for the line-up… i’ll give it a try

911 – no turbo, reardrive
911S – no turbo, reardrive, more sportive than the basic version
911 4 -no turbo, 4wd
911 4S – no turbo, 4wd, more sportive than the 911-4

911 GT3 – no turbo, reardrive – most sportive version of the non-turbo cars, wings

911 Turbo – Turbo, 4wd, small wing
911 GT2 – Turbo, 4wd, more sportive than the base turbo… big ass wing

oh well, then theres the difference in coupes (THE usual 911), Convertibles and the targa… i think the targa is available on all of the non-wing versions, except the 4S, the convertible is there for all the non wing versions plus the turbo

but i must agree, the lineup is somewhat big

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Design-wise, Porsche is like Al Bundy, still fixated on his glory days as a quarterback. This general styling was fine about 40 years ago, but Porsche should show some balls and quit living in their damned past. They are interstingly engineered under the skin, but this **** is like Ford revamping a Taurus.
Comment by Ricardo Head, posted on March14 at 4:15 pm

–> i dont think porsche really is fixated on that all by themselves. its just, people ARE fixated on that. look at all the models that didnt borrow its looks from the 911…

the 914 –> failed badly, cause it didnt look like a 911, took porsche more than 30 years to give a model in this segment another try, the boxster – which looks like a 911

the 924 –> failed badly, cause it didnt look like a 911 –> porsche never tried anyhting that size again

928 –> failed, cause it didnt look like a 911 –> porsche has yet to give a big Gran Turismo another try… and if they do, it will borrow some looks from the 911

the 944 –> failed badly, porsche took more than 30 years to give a car in that segment another try… the cayman… which looks amazingly like a small 911

if people werent going nuts about any car that doesnt look 911-like, porsche WOULD give a new design a try…

Porsche’s new design is NOTHING like the old Porsches. Put old models side by side with the 997s, only untrained eyes will say something absurd like: “They look the same.” Amateurs! Get the factual spec of old and new models and you’ll see the 997 is different in every single body panel – ie. roof slant, height, length, width, nose hang, aerodynamic coefficient, etc.

Besides, the 911 more than a car, it’s an engineering work in progress. FACT- They’ve put more research and development onto the 911 throughout its existence than NASA put for the entire space shuttle program.

Run a YouTube search on “997 Turbo” and watch clips of the Turbo smoking pretty much every single car short of the Enzo. I mean, this thing has the only Turbo in the industry that doesn’t lag, body structure that allows the driver to take turns at unbelievable speeds, brakes that can stop a bullet train without fading, seemless bluetooth integration… the list goes on and on. For $130k, it’s the most complete package out there today. Not to mention the possibility to tune it!! TechArt just yanked 630hp out of the engine, making it dash to 60mph in 3.2sec.

“Z06,
Your just pissed cause this thing will eat your namesake for breakfast! ” Comment by norby413, posted on March14 at 6:40 pm

Norby -

You’re a tool. A) I’m not pissed, and B) this GT2 will about hang with a Z06 on a track – it won’t be eating it. Do the math my friend: power-to-weight ratios will be about identical, similar brake hardware, similar handling numbers. The Z06 runs a 7:43 on the Nurburgring currently on stock street tires (unlike the R-compound tires Porsche often runs when they lap the Nurburgring and claim times). I highly doubt the new GT2 will do much better than that without race tires.

Oh, and then there’s that little fact that you can buy the Z06 right now. This new GT2 is what – a year or two away from coming to the U.S.? By then, it’ll have to do battle with the Corvette Blue Devil (SS/Z06-R), which, with 650hp, will be sure to rip this new Super Beetle a new one.

“As for price, if you care, your not their target audience anyway. ”

As the saying goes, a fool and his money are soon departed. Only a fool wouldn’t care about the money he spends, regardless of how wealthy he is.

“Saying you’d never spend that much when you don’t have it is kind of lame.”

You’re just full of B.S. that I never said, aren’t you? You’re big on assumptions, light on facts.

First off, I never said I wouldn’t spend that much on a car. I said I wouldn’t spend that much on a GT2, or any other 911 model currently offered.

Secondly, who said I don’t have that much to spend? You don’t know me or how much money I have.

“The vette is NOT their competition! Ferrari, Aston V8, Gallardo, etc, they are priced competitively.”

Oh, how wrong you are. The GT2 is the highest end track model of the 911. It’s mission is to kick ass on high speed road courses, while sacrificing luxury and features found in the turbo in the name of weight savings. The Z06’s mission is to also kick ass on the track, however it does so at a vastly lower price point, while offering similar performance. They do not compete on price, but the Z06 and GT2 do compete on performance, and on their track-oriented missions. I can guarantee you several automotive magazines will be pitting the new GT2 against the Z06 on the track when the GT2 becomes available.

Aston Martin doesn’t have a track car (the Vantage V8 is a luxury GT that competes with the Carrera S), and Gallardo is way too heavy to be considered a track car. The Ferrari Challenge Stradale is a track car and most closely competes with the GT2 in price and performance. I would pick a Challenge Stradale anyday over a GT2.

“Run a YouTube search on “997 Turbo” and watch clips of the Turbo smoking pretty much every single car short of the Enzo.”

So you run performance tests based on YouTube videos?? LMAO – you can’t be serious with that comment.

Run a 997 Turbo against a C6 Z06 0 to 150, and the 997 Turbo will lose, badly. The 997 will get the jump 0-60 thanks to its AWD traction advantage, but from 100-150 the Z06 will blow it away. Fact. The Z06 is more powerful and weighs less than the 997 Turbo – simple as that.

“I mean, this thing has the only Turbo in the industry that doesn’t lag,”

The only one, huh? Most modern turbos don’t have lag. Two quick examples: the BMW 335i has no lag, the Sky Redline has no lag. Have you been living in a cave for the past 10 years?

” body structure that allows the driver to take turns at unbelievable speeds, brakes that can stop a bullet train without fading, seemless bluetooth integration… the list goes on and on. For $130k, it’s the most complete package out there today. Not to mention the possibility to tune it!! TechArt just yanked 630hp out of the engine, making it dash to 60mph in 3.2sec.”

That’s all great, but MANY competing performance cars can do the exact same things. You speak like the 997 turbo is the only car that has these capabilities. It is not. 630hp? Pffft – chump change. Lingenfelter has been offering 1,000hp Corvettes for nearly a decade already. So has Hennessey with the Viper. For about the cost of a STOCK 997 Turbo, I might add.

I find it kinda funny when I hear comments about Porsche design like Ricardo Head’s.
Is Porsche’s mission statement to ‘placate people who don’t like our classice evolutionary design’? Or is it to make money hand over fist while providing a world beater of a sports car?
If it ain’t broken, don’t fix it. When the basic styling formula of the 911 stops selling Porsche will change it, and what ever that iteration will be, well, it will probably be as timeless as the current.

I don’t know about anyone else but I think it would be humbling if I spent $180K on a performance car and was either smoked, or challenged by a car that costs nearly 1/3 of the price. If, however, the target was to spend $180K for a car, it would not be a Porsche. For that price point, I would be far more happy with an F430, or an Aston DB9.

Porsche always has had and always will have the most boring designs. Not to mention the least provocative and the least creative. In LA, I see these cars everywhere. Porsches are like Hondas there and they all look the same to me. Don’t you people get tired of seeing the same thing with a few mild touchups over and over? You would figure that if they put no effort into design, they would at least perform well for the cost. Of course, the Z06 shows us that this is not the case (See Z06ified’s post).

Porsche just kicks ass.. you cant get better handling and quality.. Porsche should make a new model for these kids who are always complaining its design.. looking like some typical **** like the ferrari f430 with the porsches kickass technology. F430 doesnt have any style at all. Its just a typical sportcar in red paint.

arastu, that was an interesting idea to make a limited edition car that does not share any previous Porsche design and have it prove to the world that Porsche can still make kick ass designs. Although that is what the Carrera Gt was supposed to do

Aratsu, you got it backwards. The F430 is definitely not “some typical ****” sports car. Its design is unique, creative, provocative, and, too many, attractive. At least Ferrari is making an attempt at moving forward with their design. The Porsche designs, on the other hand, are the almost opposite: old, boring, and dull.

Besides, the 911 more than a car, it’s an engineering work in progress. FACT- They’ve put more research and development onto the 911 throughout its existence than NASA put for the entire space shuttle program.

show us the numbers because nasa has spent a trillion dollars in the program ovewr the last 30 years.

Man that is nice. Light on the styling changes (classic looks) but heavy on the engineering as a Porsche should be. The reliability of Porsche’s is amazing. I can’t say the same for Vettes though. Cheap power is great but losing your roof on the highway is not. Further there are aftermarket tuners that can crank some scary number’s from the Porsche. See RUF for instanc. Still 180k for a race ready Porsche is not bad. I seem too remember the race ready Viper was like 225k?
But what’s 45k to us millionaires right?

enough with the roof, that recall has been fixed 2 years ago. thats like trying to convince me toyota never ever has had a recall. pfffft, come on guys lets use up to date info already. the 911 and vettes have been rivals for 40 years now and will be for the next 40.

———–>What is Z06ified SMOKING?? It is NOT EVEN POSSIBLE to get a [USED] Lengenfelter ‘Vette for ANYTHING less than $180K…….and not to mention a Hennessey Venom Viper costs more than the Corvette!! he shouldn’t even attempted to say those cars costs the same as a stock 997 turbo, cuz they’re not even CLOSE…….

As i said, they should do car which is totally different than 911’s and they already have one, the carrera gt. But it is totally too expensive compared to the f430.. I can see that there is a little hole on the lineup, i mean that porsche got these 911 models and those arent so sporty like ex. f430. Somebody like toomuchtorque would want a car which look more aggressive and “unique” (in my opinion there isnt any more unique cars than porsches..) than 911’s, so porsche should do a car which got some new and fresh design to challenge ferrari f430 and gallardo customers.

Anyway if i had money for cars like these, my choice would be this new GT2, 911 turbo tuned by some company or much cheaper Targa S, anyway it would be a Porsche. Everybody got their optinions and i just dont like lambos and ferraris.

WOW! IT LOOKS SO GOOD! It looks even better than the GT3RS! A great car.