Hyundai?
Biggest loser?
No!

I am surprised bt the sales of Impala and Focus
Further proof the sun shines on a dog’s tail once in awhile
DrFill

^ they’re fleet vehicles, that’s why the sales are so good. Same with the trucks.

The Chrysler Pacifica being on that list is misleading – is it not? The Pacifica [From what I can gather from an internet search] ended production soon after the 2008 models were introduced. [Sometime near the end of November of 2007] Correct me if I’m wrong. Craig!! )

J makes an excellent point!
It’s been a while since I’ve contacted my underworld sources, but since the year is about over, time to check the end of the year fleet numbers and see what’s doin!
Very interesting!

Hyundai Elantra: 21% fleet
Sonata: 40% fleet

Toyota Corolla: 8%

Ford Focus: 24%
Ford Fusion: 32%
Ford Mustang: 17%
Ford Escape Hybrid: 40%
Ford Escape: 29%
Ford Ranger: 32%
Ford F-series: 29%
Ford Edge: 22%
Ford Exploder: 36%

Chevy Cobalt: 39%
Chevy Mailbu: 33%
Chevy Impala: 50%
Chevy Colorado:20%
Chevy Silverado:17.5%

Dodge Ram: 14%
Dodge Caravan: 51.5%

Mazda3: 15%

Chrysler 300: 43%

Honda Accord: 2.5%

Nissan Altima: 15%
Nissan Murano: 18%

Toyota Avalon: 25%
Toyota Camry: 8.5%
Toyota Prius: 11%
Toyota Tacoma: 4.5%
Toyota Tundra: 5.5%
Toyota Sienna: 24.5%
Toyota Highlander: 22%

Infiniti G35: 10.5%

Audi A6 17%

Cadillac CTS: 8.5%

Lexus LS: 4.5%

Mitsu Eclipse: 40%

DrFill

6000 people actually bought a Hummer?

So 24,000 24s Chromed wheels were sold also…

GMC Sierra? where did that come in, I’m sure that combined with silverado it beat out the F-150. All awesome vehicles. If 6k people bought a hummer then there must still be a hugh surplus of those sitting on lots. I will take one for free if they are giving them away!

Who cares about F-150 or Silverado. Trucks are for schmucks (unless you really need one).

^ Touché

This is going to sound corny as hell, but I’d like to include LLN as one of the big winners from 2008. For any site to survive such a painful format change and come back with such a vengeance I dare say any Big 3 renaissance is going to pale by comparison.

Now where do I meet up with Elias to do some laps in an ACR Viper?

Hmmm, for all I know, the Acura sold fewer RL’s than the Entourage this year, how come it’s not on the list?

Whoops, what I meant was, Acura sold fewer RL’s than Hyundai did Entourage

Ah Yes Ford F-150 is King again. Sorry Chevy Losers!

Its Funny Hmm I have to comment on this. The Quality of the Honda Civic and Accord has always been the Gold Standard and in many ways it still is. Camry Ditto. This is why people the Japanese keep winning. Their Products do all the talking not the DS who follow their brand name AKA Chevy lol. Its laughable. Ford has actually come out on top in quality which I find hard to believe but its true.
But the Honda Civic and Toyota Camry are my cars baby!

Oh yeah I can see why GM is trying to unload Hummer. I would too if and when gas prices go back up. The funny thing though is it was a Military vehicle never intended for civillian use. Its is doubly funny that because a famous american-Austrian Actor buys one – it then became the IT Vehicle to get.
But why its like owning a Greyhound BUS?? It needs a Fillup station every 100 Miles it goes!

bk ^ I’m still amazed that y’all didn’t get a ‘PTCPD’ comment for your Taurus/Insight meanderings a few news items back. Consider this an overdue reply;-) Nice little bubble y’all have constructed for yourself. Glad to see you’re happy in it. So, this being almost the holidays and all I won’t F*ck with it – No, no need to Thank me;-) Later!

DB9
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“A man meets with no more respect than he exacts.” William Hazlitt

no matter what the new york state douchebag population will continue to flourish and sop up H2’s.

and, AutoObsessed, the RL isnt on the list because their sales figures didnt change significantly. The entourage saw the biggest drop off in sales, while the RL stayed more consistent, which is why the entourage is the biggest loser. If the RL saw a 70% drop in sales, then it would be in that spot.

granted, though, the piss poor comparisons made in this article clearly dont have any method to their madness.

Dr. Fill -

Your fleet numbers are old (Oct 2007 – March 2008). The Corolla is actually higher by this point (probably ~15%). May through September had relatively high fleet sales. The F-series is also higher than 29% at this point. It has been nearly 40% since May as retail buyers moved to cars. But… most of those fleet are good sales to companies who use them for work.

The Fusion and Focus are significantly lower at this point. The Fusion has had around 10% fleet sales in Q3 and Q4 while the Focus has been just over 10%. For the year, the Focus will likely end up 10%.

GM’s numbers are a bit low-skewed as well as July, August and September were all massive fleet months for GM.

Dr Fill: I like how you called it the “Ford Exploder”

^ I own an Explorer, and yes the transmission exploded. Luckily it was under warranty and I got a brand new one for free My friend has a Mountaineer as well and his tranny blew worse than mine.

And thank you Dr Fill for further proving my opinion/point with your statistics lol

Biggest Loser No 2: Cadillac in Europe.

Robert
I don’t see your report on my desk
I’ll have to give you a failing grade
DrFill

DrFill is gay…..

I am not one sided on this but I have driven all of the trucks out there and to me the Dodge is much much nicer. In fact i drove a F-150 for about 2 weeks (DEMO) and couldn’t wait to get back into a dodge. I am driving a 08 RAM (demo) now and currently own a 04 1500 HEMI that I use to tow my Camper. I am about 1500 lbs over weight and it pulls just fine. What do you think the dodge truck is lacking over the Ford and Chevy? It has more power, more style (my opinion), and is more inexpensive just my $.02.

I think these numbers at the bottom end need some sort of qualifier. I’m sure the Pacifica outsold the Gallardo.

DrFill: I don’t know why GM insists on calling that V6/FWD thing an Impala.

Focus is underrated.

Bankruptcy2009: Chevy/GMC are marginally better, plus spread over two lines. Ford SHOULD outsell.

Bankruptcy2009: “The Quality of the Honda Civic …” is such that it was the worst car I’ve ever owned. The 2008 accord/tl may be the Gold Standard, but the Malibu/Aura is the Platinum Standard. I do admit, however that those terms overestimate the difference between the cars.

Camry/es is less than crap.

yarddog82abn: “DrFill is gay…..” Who cares?

The Quality of the Honda Civic …” is such that it was the worst car I’ve ever owned.
Get over it you are a nobody and IF your Civic failed it was 1 in a million and based on its track record your fault

The 2008 Accord/TLmay be the Gold Standard, but the Malibu/Aura is the Platinum Standard. The Accord and the TL are better (proven) than the Malibu/Aura

Camry/ES 350 is less than crap- Show some proof

Yes.
The biggest loser is indeed the Entourage. Quite fitting.

Note, it is the biggest heap of useless scrap.
It could afford to lose some pounds.

Yes. It may be the biggest loser. But seriously, it needs to be the Biggest Loser.

-eat your cereal

Hey Fill doesn’t matter F150 smoked your beloved Tundra, pull fleet out and it still smoked it, a four year old platform. Whats wrong with fleet anyways? There is a distinct difference between fleet sales and rental fleet, and while your little precentages are impressive it does not tell the whole story, Toyota actually supplies more vehicles to renatl fleets than Ford.

Toygasm Fill…..oooooh what a feeling

JackJimChokinghisTurkey you sir obviously don’t know what your talking about or were in a Coma for the last Um 30 years. Since the Accords beginning it was a high quality car, and it makes no apologies for doing so. I concur with what tripleonefive has said Honda and Toyota have set the standard for the world to follow in terms of the Best Quality, Reliability, ReSale Value, and Economy. And what Chevrolet must do is establish itself as Quailty and Reliable which until now they have’nt been able to. Lets see the proof. And the only way that will happen is If this Mailbu changes that image let us bear witness to the fact its more reliable First before telling us it does. . But it needs some time and evidence its in the same league as a Honda or Toyota sir.