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2010 diesel Nissan Maxima to be manual only?

06/16/2008, 5:13 PM

By Drew Johnson

Nissan’s clean diesel-powered Maxima sedan is headed for our shores in 2010, but it’s still unclear what type of transmission the Japanese automaker will equip the diesel Maxima with. According to a top ranking Nissan official, the automaker is still debating whether to use an automatic or manual transmission.

Yo Usuba, Nissan senior vice president in charge of powertrains, revealed to Automotive News that no decision has been made on which type of gearbox to give the diesel Maxima. While Americans heavily favor automatics over manuals, Nissan is concerned that turbo lag associated with turbocharged engines mated to an automatic transmission would deter new buyers from opting for the diesel powertrain.

The easiest solution for Nissan would be to pair the turbo diesel engine with a manual transmission, therefore giving the driver better response. This scenario seems fairly likely as the automaker has made a similar decision with its upcoming JDM X-Trail SUV. Like Americans, Japanese buyers prefer automatics but Nissan decided to only offer the diesel X-Trail with a manual transmission.

“We really struggled with how to show people how good these new diesel engines are,” Usuba said, “and we decided that a manual transmission is the best combination.”

So while no decision has officially been made, it seems like a pretty safe bet that the diesel-powered 2010 Nissan Maxima will come with three pedals.

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06/16, 5:16 PM

posted by:

golf4me

As long as it’s not a goddam CVT POS! Hopefully Nissan gets with the program and offers the DSG soon.

06/16, 5:18 PM

posted by:

Htay9500

if the x-trail is brought here with a diesel and manual, sign me up. I dunno about the maxima styling though. I never really like auto transmissions unless if it was in a cadillac or a MB. w/o manual, pass.

06/16, 5:26 PM

posted by:

nickkop

regardless sounds like a great offering, i could be in line in the near future

06/16, 5:29 PM

posted by:

iglesias294

poor fat ass americans, they might have to put down the 32 oz coke or the triple cheeseburger from mcdonalds to shift gears.

06/16, 5:48 PM

posted by:

Jordan

hey.

i love triple cheeseburgers.

06/16, 5:55 PM

posted by:

NoNameDenton1

golf4me, Nissan’s CVT is not to bad really. This seems like it would be a bad idea, and wold hurt sales in America.

06/16, 6:04 PM

posted by:

johnnycanuck

The more manuals out there the better, but Nissan had better find a suitable automatic fast. With all due respect, Jordan, iglesias294 is right.

06/16, 6:13 PM

posted by:

Jordan

lol. i know. my country’s in a sad state.

06/16, 6:18 PM

posted by:

NoNameDenton1

You know America is not the only country that is having a population that is having weight issues.

06/16, 6:21 PM

posted by:

brassmonkey

Iglesias – Us fat Americans prefer automatics over manuals for a couple of reasons: (1) We can drive and drink our 32 oz Coke at the same time. (2) We can eat our triple cheeseburger, but they don’t come from McDonald’s. I believe Wendy’s and maybe Burger King has triples. And, most importantly, (3) having an automatic transmission means we don’t have to keep shifting gears ourselves. This allows your mother to keep giving me ‘road head’ and I don’t have to ask her to move her head so I can go into 5th.
Do you want me to go after your sister, too, BITCH?

06/16, 6:27 PM

posted by:

RotaxKart

What do you guys know about the CVT? Altima was the best car that I drove on the track? But what do I know?

06/16, 6:30 PM

posted by:

A4

yes! now i kind of want one… keep it manual and i may be sold…

06/16, 7:01 PM

posted by:

DrFill

Nissan is showing promise.
This combo makes too much sense, doh.
It would never work!
But if we can make Obama President, we may reach a higher level yet.
DrFill

06/16, 7:02 PM

posted by:

Bimmer

‘Nissan is concerned that turbo lag associated with turbocharged engines mated to an automatic transmission would deter new buyers from opting for the diesel powertrain.’
Then Nissan should learn from BMW how to make diesel engine with sequential turbo!!! (335d, 535d, etc.) No turbo lag and available only with automatic. (Unfortunately).

06/16, 7:03 PM

posted by:

A4

i just make her move her damn head, whatever

06/16, 8:05 PM

posted by:

Blakkarr

The CVT needs further development. Mainly materials development. the usual metals will not be adequate for more than any over 200hp and 200lb/ft.

A manual will turn off to many people, especially those most likely to buy it (non-sporting family types). The only way I can see around that is an automatic clutch.

DSG-type would serve better in the long run. But expense means that you’d see it in an INFINITI before almost any other NISSAN (the rumors of the next Z getting the GT-R’s 7-speed DSG not withstanding)

An automatic with manual shift mode seems most likely though the manual will be a possible option.

06/16, 8:12 PM

posted by:

NoNameDenton1

There needs to be options, keep the manual, but make an automatic or CVT optional.

06/16, 8:47 PM

posted by:

The Stig

Dual clutch 6-7 speed. No other choices required.

06/17, 9:28 AM

posted by:

1c3d0g

The Stig: agreed 100%. I really don’t get why they can’t offer something like that.

06/17, 11:15 AM

posted by:

xyunya

CVT will rip belt off from all the torque of 6 cyl diesel. You don’t see CVT hooked to a V8 and it is the same amount of torque.
There was diesel Maxima in US already. Worked well with manual only. I think it was selling OK.

06/17, 12:18 PM

posted by:

Blakkarr

Stig, “icedog”,

This is NISSAN’s answer to the IMPALA, AVALON, and TAURUS. It has to be inexpensive, if not cheap. CURRENTLY DSGs are too expensive for use in FF family sedans, even if they are erroneously billed- and sports sedans. Auto-makers constantly gripe that RWD, forget AWD, costs a lot more than FWD. If the MAXIMA is going to stay in the price running, it will have to stay FWD.

NISSAN does not have a DSG for FWD. The only one they have up and running now and for the near future is for the GT-R, which is made mainly for RWD-minimum applications. So you may see the tranny in INFINITI sedans and coupes, and the next Z-car, but FWD sedans like the Altima and Maxima are unlikely.

The only way I can see a DSG, for this next MAXIMA, happening is if NISSAN turns a 180, which almost never happens in the Auto industry anywhere in the world – especially the very methodical Japanese, and decided to make the Maxima a RWD to compete directly with the 300 and Charger. Then the Maxima would have to be RWD. But then NISSAN would have to cross several lines with INFINITI and risk making their luxury division appear less special. An INFINITI M for 10-15 grand less would be bad in NISSAN’s eyes.

06/17, 1:07 PM

posted by:

The Stig

Borg Warner’s exclusive agreement with VW has ended allowing them to sell the thing to anyone. Nissan is buying it for the GT-R. DSG and FWD is a proven and available match – just look at VAG.

06/17, 1:43 PM

posted by:

JoshyLofty

Offer the manual as an OPTION i think. but produce MORE manual maximas than autos. just to prove a point. cuz what if granny walks in & loves the maxima & has owned 3 previously & also loves diesels as she’s owned 4 different diesel mercedes Eclass’ so she wants to mix the two. lets also assume she’s 70 years young but has a bad back & pushing the clutch hurts her. she needs an auto.

just a thought.

06/17, 2:54 PM

posted by:

Buhbye

Too bad it’s made in Japan. Can’t be trusted.

06/17, 6:18 PM

posted by:

NoNameDenton1

JoshyLofty, that works even better.

06/17, 8:53 PM

posted by:

JoshyLofty

gracias. :)

06/17, 8:54 PM

posted by:

JoshyLofty

PS— buhbye… why can’t it be trusted? are american cars impressing you ever-so-much?

 
 
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