more like…”LLN just noticed there are mustang specs out there!” These have been out there for more than 2 months!

OH MY

However, I would LOVE to see a turbocharged V8 under the hood someday!

Does this mean the 4.6 liter is not under the hood? 315 horsepower is good for a V-6, but that leaves an odd gap- I don’t quite want 400 horsepower, but I want a V-8.

This is great for the Mustang, heck with 400 horses I wonder if these things will be able to outrun the 2003-2004 supercharged Cobras?

Personally I’m going to hold out and wait to see what the Boss looks like, my favorite Mustangs of all time were the 302’s and 429’s from 1969-70.

Great stuff and good for Ford. The 4.6 was a trusted mule but it was just time.

“something the Camaro has offered since 1993.”

Except when it didn’t exist for a 6 year stretch.

I’m glad they upped the power on the base V6…they’re a joke right now! So, can we thank the Camaro for forcing the Ford boys to up the ante with the Mustang?

Just as much as you can thank the Mustang for the Camaro’s existence at all…

I always thought that half-retarded half-screwed-up girls driving ‘Tangs can’t drive. Perhaps it wasn’t their fault. For 2 more years 4000 lbs ‘Tang will be soldering with 200 hp motor. Now I realize, it is not the driving prowlers of my Mrs., it is her Accord that blows girls in Tang from the go light.

I’m a Camaro lover but man this makes it interesting. Chevy better up the horses or get beat severely. Hell the 315 horses already keep up with the Chevy’s 430 due to weight.

@ Thunder Chicken – BURN!

This makes me a very happy camper, this equals like 500 horses in Camaro measurements. 5.0 liter engine…do I smell GT500 KR????

Just 2 short years until the big 5-O. Happy birthday to me, happy birthday to me…

I agree Sgt Pepper. Nice name by the way.
I love the Camaros but this response by Ford makes things interesting. Either the Camaro’s gotta lighten up or boost up the hp’s a bit more. I say… lighten it up!!

Chevy and Dodge need to tune/fix their cars ASAP.

jayjc08

Are you no american? What person on the planet does not want more power? the 4.6 was a good engine but it’s dated and time to move on! bring the 5.0 back!

Not true Sgt Pepper. Automobile magazine took a Mustang GT and Camaro SS and put 2 professional drivers behind the wheel, the results are as follows.

CAMARO MUSTANG

0-60 4.8 5.3

0-100 10.8 13.1

0-140 21.7 30.1

I agree however that the Camaro needs to continue to evolve in order to stay in the game. Competition is always a good thing.

My mind is definitely made up on the 2011 Stang!

Nice. Maybe I’ll finally be able to get a mustang with customized license plates: “5.0H SHT”

Five or six years ago, I would’nt have believed this war between Ford, Chevy and Dodge would be escalating again. I’m impressed. This news should really heat things up in the segment. Alright “new GM,” there have been a lot of claims made. Let’s see just how fast you react to this.

Why not just share all of the info?

The Boss will use the 6.2L “Hurricane” V8

Only way Dodge can compete is if it makes an aluminum block Hemi that makes at least 400hp in R/T trim, and a 6.4L 500+ HP in the SRT8.

Let the HP wars begin!

The big boss dog is back! Finally the Stang gets the power its been begging for from Ford. It was the only player in the field for years and now its can retain its thrown. Go Mustang!!

I got a challenger RT coming for my xmas present, but i gotta admit this thing with 400 will be devastating…more proof why the mustang outlasted the camaro and challenger. good job keeping the stang fresh and competitive….but ill still take an RT.

teahead, ive heard that 6.4 rumors, but i couldnt imagine how much more expensive compared to the GT..

The mustang is a girlie car,they won’t know what to do with more power,plus it is still on outdated piece of c$p!

watch out… M3?

Gotta love competition! If it weren’t for the Camaro and Challanger, the Mustang GT would have been just another Nissan Z competitor…

…If it were a Nissan Z competitor without them it’s still going to be one with them.

Let me just say – I’m crying that I’m so happy with this (if true)… this is by far the best news I’ve personally ever have seen on anything on here in my life. God has shown his presence, I swear to you a fvcking 315 hp V-6 Mustang is what I’ve been dreaming of for years, no make that decades. Don’t get me wrong – I love me a GT – but just think of what a person could do with a modern V-6 in a Mustang. How can this be? A rental lot Mustang with as much freakin’ HP as the GT is now? An affordable 315 hp Mustang that the insurance company won’t laugh me out onto the street on?

What is this going to do to the base price is something I’m unsure of. If it can stay, which I think it’s going to have to, within 1,000 of the current Stang, it’s not a matter of will I buy this, it’s when. I’m starting a countdown til the ‘11 starts production.

Did I die? If I was told heaven was this sweet I would have opted to died years ago.

Ford finally got some common sense and put a decent engine in their brand name car. Now they need to grow some balls and upgrade the rear suspension to multi-link and offer Clutch-LSD as well as twin-turbo V8. Super Chargers work well but they won’t stand next to a well tuned Twin Turbo V8.

And put some decent interior in the GT. Cheap Daewoo Taxi based on GM platform has better interior with faux leather compared to LEGO hard plastics Mustang GT has.

If they do all that Sov Mastang will be priced same as Audi R8. Will ford be up to such competition? Still a more decentt rear suspension is a must have if they want to sell that thing in Europe.

A V6 engine pushing 315 with the track package would do just fine for me! Especially if I could get it for around 26K.

@Sorvaria

What are you smoking? The 2010 Mustang got a real interior already. The Mustang already had a decent engine, so long as you didn’t get the V6.

@Fordman

Exactly what’s outdated on the new-for-2010 Mustang besides the V6?

@MHW

Look at the number Car and Driver posted. Much better. Over the years C&D has been known to get the most out of cars they test. Also, Both R&T and C&D have compared the Mustang GT Track Pack, Camaro SS, and Challenger R/T and both came to the conclusion that the Mustang wins hands down due to a far superior suspension and handling.

What makes this forum posting legit? Just because the guy is called “The Insider”?

That said, I sure as hell hope that everything he said is true. I might have to seriously consider the V6 for once. I loved my 2006 GT and it had plenty of power for me. It’ll also be nice to see the 2011 whopping up on the Camaro. It already has better ride and handling. 400HP with a much lower weight finally completes the picture…

I like how Ford is naming their motors with cool names like Coyote and Hurricane. It gives them more of an identity. GM has had it with the LSx motors, but the names are more fun. Numbers are soon to be indistinguishable with technologies like EcoBoost, since smaller S/C or Turbo motors can outperform NA bigger motors. I predict I’ll be a Ford owner within the next 5 years. Keep up the good work!

Good news, if its true. Still, I want independent suspension!

As much as I like the sound of this I’m not liking the sound of all the teenage girls with a 315hp beast rolling around the streets much less the 400hp GT

I love how everyone discounts the NUMEROUS reviews stating that the suspension and handling in the Mustang is BETTER than the Camaro and Challenger DESPITE being a solid axle.

Ah, yes. Ford will remind everyone why it’s always outsold the competition. If it weren’t for the last 3-4 months, Ford has outright raped the competition in sales. This will bring the Camaro and Challenger down to where they were enivitably going on the sales charts, down. Camaro’s always been more expensive and the Challenger will be, well forgotten again. Ford keeps the V-6 prices in check, you’ll be seeing an outstanding amount of Mustangs sold, probably at levels they sold in 2005 maybe even as many as they did in the mid-90’s.

How can LLN post this article as if it’s fact? Are we to believe that a forum post by someone that has not verified credibility is newsworthy? I read this post on The Mustang Source yesterday and this article is basically a fluffed up version of the post from a guy that presumptiously calls himself, “The Insider”. Talk about irresponsible reporting…

•3.7L V6 to be rated at 315 horsepower: Same as 2010 GT; 15 hp more than Camaro V6
•No immediate plans for EcoBoost V6 Mustang due to small horsepower gap between EcoBoost and 5.0L V8 (365 vs 400)
•2011 Mustang GT to be rated at 400 horsepower, will get increase in 2012
•2011 Mustang GT to get 6-speed transmission and variable valve timing
•2011 Mustang GT Track Pack to include Brembo brakes
•2011 Mustang GT 5.0L V8, 6-speed, track pack, Brembo brakes ran even with 414-hp BMW M3, which is 200 lbs lighter, at GingerMan Raceway in South Haven, Michigan
•2011 Shelby GT500 to get Aluminum Block
•Next special edition: 2012 Boss

One thing that people are neglecting to point out here is that this new 3.7 V6 (hell, maybe even the V8) will almost certainly require premium fuel. Now that’s not a HUGE deal breaker… Hell, my V6 Altima “recommends” (requires in my book) it. But it’s enough to scare away some V6 buyers for sure.

Doubtful on the premium fuel. Only Lincoln badged vehicles genarally require premium (but of course you can still run regular without any issues). The only Ford badged car that requires premium is th GT500, for obvious compression reasons.

pb, what is outdated is the solid axle rear suspension…if you see a review of a mustang on Top Gear you’ll routinely hear them say it has the rear suspension technology of a roman chariot…

for muttonchops, yes, when it comes to performance handling the ford guys set up the solid axle well, but even reviews that praise the mustang’s performance handling note that the rear end shimmys and bounces over bumps in regular ol’ street driving (which is what 99% of mustangs do)…if that’s fun to you, fine, go buy one and be happy…some, though, would rather have a modern suspension…but it’d be a lie to say mustang has a better street ride than the competition…

i’m excited about the new motors…new motors and an independent rear and i’d be even more tempted, though…

How much does a BMW M3 cost again? I laugh in it’s general direction!

It may be hard to swallow but yeah, a car can be THAT good and cost a bit less than half as much.

Guys the MUSTANG has a flexible fuel system (not to be confused with Flex-fuel, the car probably has that too), it can tell the difference between the cheap stuff and premium even racing fuel (not recommended without confirmation). You act like the GT-R35 is the only car in the world that can do this and the MUSTANG was doing since the 2005 models first hit. Most cars today are somewhat to very lenient on the kind of gas you can use.

The V6 Mustang is not going to scare off anyone for gas.

The 2010 Mustang is truly an amazing car, not Earth-shattering but still amazing, and the 2011 is going to be almost absurd as the Mustang steps up into… greatness. Finally, the handling, power, and packaging it needs to be a great treat and a sincere threat.

I’m excited and upset I have to wait one more minute for the Mustang I really have waited all these years to finally happen.

Without the existence of Camaro, Ford would continue offering the same anaemic powertrains.

This is, of course, a matter of opinion. If it wasn’t for the F-series, Mustang, Crown Vic, Taurus and E-series vans, then yeah that may be true.

Sgt Pepper- You dreaming, the 315 hp V6 Mustang is not going to be able to hang with a new Camaro SS, dream on! I’ve seen videos on insideline.com that shows a GT500 just being able to pull away from a new SS.

This move by Ford was way overdue, the Mustang deserves more power. Heck, the current one will get eaten by a 370Z and it has a V6. The Z and GT are already easily outgunned by the Challenger and SS already, hopefully this will force Nissan to up their hp on the VQ, the engine could easily stand 400 hp. Gotta love these hp wars, up and up we go!!

I think there has been a fair amount of misinformation floating around about fuel requirements on the latest Ford products. Many of their vehicles, including the F150, have published power ratings that inlude a little *. In the case of the 5.4L Triton V8 in the F150 the published 320hp figure is achieved on E85. For the Taurus SHO and Shelby GT500 the published power ratings are achieved on 91 octane premium gasoline. However, all of these vehicles will run on 87 octane regular gas, including the GT500. But they obviuosly will not produce their rated power numbers on the lower octane fuels because the computer will adjust things like ignition advance curves to prevent the engine from self destructing.

Zeegone,

The 370Z would likely still keep beating the Mustang only because the 370Z is a straight up, little, made to task, sports car. That v6 also makes 332hp or so. the real down side. No backseat and the car really is very strange looking. Not ugly just strange.

Who ever first tried to compare the 370Z to the current crop of muscle cars in terms of performance really did not know what they were doing. Cost aside, you have to look at what these cars are made for. the 370Z’s natural competition is the Porsche Cayman and Boxster, the RX8, and similar smaller sports cars.

The current comparison LLN brings up against the much more costly M3, is much more accurate.

howsmydriving: I’ve already pointed it out once in this thread, but it bears repeating (and elabourating): Without the Mustang, Chevrolet would not produce a Camaro at all. The original Camaro was hurried to market in ‘67 to compete with, and owes its very existence to, the Mustang (because the Corvair failed at this task so miserably), and the current one was, well, I wouldn’t say “hurried” – it was “brought” to market to compete with the ‘05 Mustang when GM watched its runaway success.

They call them “Pony cars” for a reason.

Thunder Chicken,

Too right that the CAMARO was a direct response to the MUSTANG, and I don’t think “three years later” qualifies as rushed to market.

That said the CORVAIR had other more dire problems to contend with, none of them the MUSTANG. But the Mustang did bring a much more powerful engine to the party. But the real problem was Ralph Nader.

The “Poor Man’s PORSCHE” was originally meant as a commuter car, believe it or else. In 1965 it got a lot more performance, including a revised Semi-trailing link Swing axle… with “Camber compensator” (we call that a control link today). We can all thank Ralph Nader, surprisingly, for tweaking GM’s ego into continuing the car for three more years and actually planning for its life from 1970 and on. But he did do the car irreconcilable harm. Despite much improved performance, public perception of the car brought on by Nader’s Book, “Unsafe at Any Speed”, and the MUSTANG brought down a truly promising car. Later it would be found that Ralph Nader’s book was dead wrong about the CORVAIR’s, ‘60-’64, handling issues. Today, such a slip up would have gotten Nader sued over the planet. Lucky him.

Today CORVAIRs are still much loved and adored by fans, I’m one myself, and raced. With updated shocks and springs, the CORVAIR 1965-on, can hang with and even beat modern sports cars quite well. Plus, after all these years ‘65-’69 still looks sharp today.

In a world were handling seems to trump raw power, a modern CORVAIR would be a powerful hit for GM today. Not too much power(yeah right! 260+hp or no dice), slot car handling, relatively low weight and good F/econ. Throw in some convertibles and a Sedan, and instant win…

Oh wait… the CRUZE.

Anyway, my dad had a 1969 CORVAIR racer when I was a kid. We might have had it now if he would have paid to ship it from Hawaii to Texas. I love that car and “miserable” is not something I would attach to it. One of GM’s best cars ever (1965-on). One of my ten favorite cars of all time. It is actually number 1.

The Mustang is number 2 on that list.

EGGcellent move, Ford! Bring on the Boss!!!

I hope this news referencing the engines is real. As for the “log” out back, the aftermarket has many alternatives. If an IRS is the icing on the cake, than check this out;

http://mustangirs.com/index.php

I’ll be saving my money in the mean time.

yes yes yes the mustang has to the power it needs to boss the others

old news but still cool to hear

Blakkarr, I’d say 3 years is a rush to market. Since it probably took GM a little while to see what a success the Mustang was before they even started work on the Camaro, and it takes a couple years for a car to get from the drawing board to the showroom.

Wow…Ford actually did something right…but it’s a year too late.

Now Ford just needs to work on the truck suspension, bland exterior looks and plain-jane interior.

“The 2010 Mustang is truly an amazing car, not Earth-shattering but still amazing,”

Yeah…about as amazing as a 1998 Ford Windstar.

I agree with a lot of you—finally the mustang is getting engines it deserves. Ford could have done this all along but BM had to goad them into it. Now, to me, the mustang becomes an interesting car again. OF COURSE TO GET ONE YOU WILL HAVE TO GO THRU DEALER SURCHARGING AS USUAL. I really wish these companies would cut that dealer crap out.

Ford’s freakin’ crazy if they think I’m gonna buy a 4000 lb Muscle Car. That’s just ridiculous. At that weight, it won’t matter that the Mustang has 5.0L making 400 hp under its hood.

I’ll be getting a 2010. There’s no excuse for a mid-sized car to weigh 4000 lbs.

I want a 2010, 2011, or 2012 mustang with 400 or 500 horse with an Auto Tranny and IRS……… If Camaro can do it…why not the mustangs. i am not going to race the car, i am going to drive the car in HEAVY California freeways……… Is there any anyone out there that can explain Fords Lack of an Auto Tranny or IRS

Camaro needs a diet, but it probably won’t change for a few years if not longer. It’s selling well and GM doesn’t really need to change a car that is already selling beyond build capacity. Although they should…

Man, this is great news! Have a 2007 GT with Roush blower now, puts out 450hp. I have totally embarrassed an M3 on a rural stretch of interstate. The Beemer just slowly disappeared in my rearview mirror. After I let him catch me, he gave me a thumbs up with a very sheepish look on his face. I would love to try out the new 5.0, and I bet it performs as well or better as my Roush modded GT. Can’t wait can’t wait.