Comments on: Acura could skip V8s, introduce V10s

By: autonutt

autonutt — Mon, 01 Oct 2007 22:59:09 +0000

jjturkey: HYANDAI?

By: BLISS

BLISS — Sat, 29 Sep 2007 21:38:10 +0000

BUILD V8s AND THEN MOVE YOURSELF UP HIGHER WHEN NEEDED TO.

By: global_lightning

global_lightning — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 02:19:41 +0000

@BAMF,
That’s a scene from the movie Spinal Tap. It’s a cult classic ‘mockumentary’ about a failing British heavy metal band in the early 80’s

Here’s the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhVWJgIzftE

By: jamaicandude

jamaicandude — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 22:33:16 +0000

I believe you Z06ified, but I was actually talking about the current M3 with the V8 ( though it isn’t yet released in the US). That’s why I made reference to BMW’s Formula 1 engines. I couldn’t have been talking about the I-6 models. And I must admit that i never knew about the E46 recalls. You learn something every day.

By: Z06ified

Z06ified — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 18:17:19 +0000

“Anybody who knows anything about F1 knows that every F1 team has had spectacular blowups. BMW had more than it’s fair share throughout ‘04 -’06… you don’t see M3s and M5s blowing up on the road now, do you
Comment by jamaicandude, posted on September25 at 11:32 am ”

Actually, the E46 M3 engines were blowing up on a regular basis on the street. It got bad enough that BMW issued at least 2 recalls for the problem and extended the engine warranty to 100k miles to protect resale value for existing owners. It was the right thing to do, because if they didn’t, M3 resale values would have cratered because people wouldn’t want to buy a used M3 that may grenade its engine.

By: jackjimturkey

jackjimturkey — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 17:56:45 +0000

u8init: Brilliant!

By: tripleonefive

tripleonefive — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 17:28:13 +0000

Christianboy
Thats what I’m talking about. When are they going to redesign the S2000? I’m a little mad at Honda bc they canceled the Prelude. My brother had a 2000 SH and it was sweeet. It got stolen unfortunately. I understand why Honda had to cancel it though they had to make trucks and SUV’s. I know that Acura is getting separate R & D centers in 2009. I think the product is different now but they will really be different in the next models cycles. Even then the domestic dickriders will still say “Its just a gussied up Honda ” lol

By: christianboy10

christianboy10 — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:55:41 +0000

tripleonefive
of all those vv bs out there some works not all. The honda vtec does but only the ones on the s2k and nsx and the type r motors the s2k over 6grand its like another motor kicks in, you can feel the car pull then you get that high rpm to finish the job.thats why I like the inline4 with 140hp N/A it feel good when I kick those v8s tail

By: tripleonefive

tripleonefive — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 14:32:54 +0000

Yea I remember that. Thats why I say these post are all bs I want to see more of the 09 TL

By: christianboy10

christianboy10 — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 13:47:35 +0000

tripleonefive
the reason I said over 80K there were an earlier article about honda skipping MB and BMW and head straigth for bentley and ferrari’s compititon

By: u8init

u8init — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 13:33:26 +0000

Let Everyone Xperience Useless ****

By: 55amg

55amg — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 11:45:56 +0000

for my bentley post, it was a joke

By: jamaicandude

jamaicandude — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 08:04:48 +0000

A lot of people keep debating on the validity of a V10 engine in Honda’s luxury and sports sedans, when the article clearly states that they intend to do a V10 sports car first (likely an NSX replacement) and “maybe” move on from there. This is a lot of fussing over a very big “what if”. The V10 NSX would be a piece of cake for Honda. Let’s reserve judgment for the rest of the lineup IF they make it to even concept form with a V10 motor.

By: tripleonefive

tripleonefive — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 07:54:01 +0000

Christian
I dont think they are trying to squeeze 80k out of an RL or MDX. I’m thinking they want that money for the NSX. If they put a car above the RL maybe the HL it would probably be around 65-70k I guess. I think they will just make the RL larger and stick with the V8 and SH AWD. Infiniti uses the M45 as their top car
I agree that companies should prove themselves but people on this board don’t believe in that. These Acura topics seem to be bs. They need to get some spy shots of the new TL and TSX
I think the 09 is going to end up looking like a Maxima from what I can tell with the camo on it.

By: tripleonefive

tripleonefive — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 06:42:04 +0000

VTEC was the first now there is VVT VVTI MIVEC and who knows what else

By: kosai03

kosai03 — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 05:11:59 +0000

I guess it might make sense depending on how big of a V10 they’re planning on

By: jackjimturkey

jackjimturkey — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 00:31:27 +0000

1115: I don’t like variable valve timing, but the NSX was one of the few applications thereof that I could live with.

I really hate the brand names most companies use to describe their particular approach to VVT.

Vtec is about the best such name.

By: tripleonefive

tripleonefive — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:50:06 +0000

lol A4 I hope you dont drive one If you do buy an extra ignition coil

By: A4

A4 — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:29:05 +0000

VTEC – Virtually Torqueless Economy Car

By: A4

A4 — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:28:17 +0000

OHHH now i know why theyd use a V10 because theyre easier to make into torqueless pieces of garbage just like almost every other honda.

By: BAMF

BAMF — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:15:56 +0000

global_lighting– i dont know what the **** that was but it was awesome

By: jackjimturkey

jackjimturkey — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 22:21:46 +0000

Autonut: i just grabbed one. several were funny. i ignored the Complimentary ones.

How Your Average Nerd Drives An Import

And for Geo

Guy Earns 0

By: A4

A4 — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 22:05:19 +0000

Yeah lln your stupid, did you forget the S6 has a V10 and costs less than both the M5 and M6?

By: tripleonefive

tripleonefive — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 21:53:03 +0000

LOL LOL at the PONTIAC

By: autonut

autonut — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 21:23:22 +0000

jackjimturkey, you missed few, but not many:
Found On Road Dead
Fix It Again Tony
**** Turned South (no offense intended to anyone driving preference or pseudonym)
Dick Turned South (see note above)
Poor Old N…er Thinks Its A Cadillac

By: Commodore

Commodore — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 21:16:27 +0000

Agreed with 1115 (for real)

V10s (along with V12 and V16) were used for a short time in the 1930s and that’s where they should stay. In today’s market, you need smaller and more fuel efficient engines that are more powerful (such as in the Cadillac CTS where the new direct injected version is more powerful and gets better MPG than the regular V6). Big engines are not a good idea in today’s market.

By: jackjimturkey

jackjimturkey — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 21:06:39 +0000

Wow am I an idiot?

I can’t take credit for tehn acronym, as you may well have guessed.

Always Unsafe Designs Implemented
Bad Mannered Wankers
Built Under Inspection of Cooky Korean
Can Hear Every Valve Rattle On Long Extended Trips
Could Have Remained Your Sickly Lame Elderly Relative’s
Drips Oil Drops Grease Everywhere
F**king Italians Ain’t Trustworthy
Fix Or Repair Daily
Got A Mechanic Coming
How Odd-No Damn Acceleration
Hope You Understand Nothing’s Driveable And Inexpensive
Just Empty Every Pocket
Nasty Import Sucks Savings Away to Nippon
Overpriced Leisurely Driven Sedan Made Of Buick’s Irregular LeftoverEquipment
Please Leave Your Money Out Under The Hood
Plenty Of Noises That Irritate And Clank
Pulled Over Regularly So Cops Have Enough
Send Another Automobile Back
Very Old Ladies Vehicle Only

By: christianboy10

christianboy10 — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 21:05:00 +0000

same here nuff respect

By: jamaicandude

jamaicandude — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 21:00:28 +0000

christianboy10:

100% born yard man. Been an avid car and motor sports fan since I was a kid, F1 being my fave. (been watching F1 since the late 80s, & haven’t missed a race in 4 years)

By: tripleonefive

tripleonefive — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:52:34 +0000

JJt
I’m not going to lie that was a funny acronym. Its unfortunate that its so far from the truth. You are still an idiot of course but that was funny.

By: christianboy10

christianboy10 — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:31:03 +0000

jamaicandude you got some good points(are youa real yardman or just the name)

By: jackjimturkey

jackjimturkey — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:12:46 +0000

Another Crummy, Useless, Rotten Automobile

By: jamaicandude

jamaicandude — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 19:55:17 +0000

I hear you Jazz, but the reason I said M3 is because V8s are what F1 is running now, not back then. And don’t forget that F1 isn’t the only form of motor sport Honda’s involved in. Matter of fact, Honda already did a concept Legend with a V8 from their Le Mans program (Mugen Legend Max) and it fit quite nicely in the engine bay. The engine wasn’t bigger dimensionally than the J series V6 motors.
Also, mentioning the fact that the M5’s V10 is larger and beefier than any F1 engine, with greater cooling and lubricating is pointless: what… do you think Honda would transplant an F1 spec engine into a road car? You can’t make direct comparisons between a street bound engine and a race one.
And, history has shown in Formula One that the teams who generally have engine trouble are usually the ones behind in pace (thus they have to tune their engines to the very edge to keep up and that increases stress on the engine), and performance isn’t only linked to the engine in F1. Honda’s engines this year obviously have the grunt (check the trap speeds on the low downforce circuits) but their aero package has been pure rubbish. Their excuse has been incorrect calibration on their wind tunnel, and at Monza, they proved that the car does have pace when it’s less dependent on downforce.
I don’t disagree with much that you’ve said though. I just think that Honda does have the technical expertise to bring a V10 powerplant to the marketplace. Previously they’ve focused their efforts on extracting big power from small motors, but I don’t think the V10 would be difficult for them.

By: jackjimturkey

jackjimturkey — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 19:45:56 +0000

autonut: at least you called it a “premium” brand and not a “luxury” brand. They’ll need more than just more cylinders to compete with BMW and MBZ, but it’s a start.

Jazz: datsun and toyota’s faux-luxury division don’t have any german rivals.

1115: your second post makes a lot of sense. But I don’t think there are a lot of people in bad-weather places who want a “sport/performance” car as their only vehicle

55amg: that’s comical as hell. Rivaling bentley! Hell, first, they have to figure out a way to rival Hyundai

By: christianboy10

christianboy10 — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 19:09:17 +0000

that makes sence