The shelf life on these minivans is ridiculous! The Sienna has been out since 2002, the Odyssey turned 5 years old and the Quest… 2003. It was a extreme and interesting minivan back then, too bad the world has changed. About time? Ya think? Detroit get’s called out on old products – why do the Japs get a free pass?

Wtf? I thought the QX56 was dead? Its time to bring back a Pathfinder based version like the old QX4.

yeah, the Armada/QX4 keep being killed and unkilled each time the wind blows…. the Quest is due for an update. $5 on they will keep it conservative since the “lets go extreme” didn’t quite work for them.

Did he just say japs???

IMO neither of these models will be anywhere near class leaders in sales. I’d just assume focus their resources elsewhere and pull out of the large lux body on frame SUV and minivan segments. I wonder if either one will even make money.

Yeah, Japs, short for Japanese.

I’m surprised they even bother with the Quest after the dismal sales of the last couple of series.

The current Quest is a piece of crap. My dingbat sister bought one & it spent more time in the shop than it did on the road. Thank God I talked her into trading it in last year.

Yeah the QX56 doesn’t fith with the rest of the Infiniti line up anymore, time to shrink and round that monster

I applaud Jake for the use of “Japs”.
Youre all sissies otherwise.

Elvacano has some class and I applaud him. The forums lose any credibility when people use knee jerk reactions and make comments that are clearly made without their brain in gear before engaging their mouth or keypad. The U.S. auto industry is taking more of the taxpayers money to survive for their endless mistakes and buying public votes with their dollars who is winning the war for our dollars, the so called “Japs” or us? Wake up, people are buying their cars for a reason, not because they must. I know you must think the rest of us are idiots or misguided but the sissies simply have a little class. The sissies you talk about are paying the salary of G.M. employee’s and I bet you wouldn’t turn down their money and let G.M. go down the pipe! If you want to be a macho man, start a movement to take over the G.M. bailout and let the Sissies but their tax dollars in their own bank account instead of G.M.! Nissan has had its hits and misses but overall it is generally a company known for reliability and good value.

Well said Toledo, well said.

The Odyseey is not old. If it is on its 5th model year, that is on track with Honda’s 5-year model cycle (excluding S2000). A new Odyssey should be due soon.

I also applaud Jake for the use of the word “Japs”.
And for those of you taking offense please take the time to look up ‘context’ in the dictionary.

Does this mean they are going to build a new Titan?

Johnny- Most of the time you’re absolutely hilarious. Sometimes I wonder if your not really from Alberta !

Thanks for the backup JohnnyC!

I was going to say something more, but I think if you look at all my past posts, or a regular on here, they speak for themselves.

Oh and A4 – Thank you too!

God forbid you abbreviate. Why is the word Jap derogatory. Only because thats what we called them in WW2. Give me a break. AND did you ever notice when you see an Asian driving a car its almost always a Jap car. Just thought I would add that observation ; )

Sgt- you lost me……are you saying Jap is acceptable or not ? Because they were referred to as Japs at wartime (and it was not meant to be NICE ) this should not be used to describe a Japanese person 60 years later even if you think it’s ONLY an abbreviation .

If an american calls people Japs or Krauts it is no different than Germans calling us Amis which during the ’80’s was just as derogatory. Every ethnicity has their names and once they are accepted in a culture it is difficult to loose that even when a negative connotation is not intended.

i lived in Germany for a few years, “Amis” is just shot for Americans, it’s not meant to be derogatory. they even say it on TV, but they are allowed to say anything on TV , they have no censorship onfor words.

that thing in the picture is the ugliest SUV i have ever seen.

No, the fugliest SUV is the Hummer. Though all full-size SUVs are pretty fugly. They’re made for people with small penises.

Do you y’all think it is acceptable to call black people niggers too? Come on folks, its 2009 not 1940.

Scratchy it was used in derogatory means during the ’80’s in Anti-American demonstrations held here in Germany and actually it is derived from the French meaning of “friend”.

Rollingrock, it’s African-Americans nowadays, “blacks” is considered almost as derogatory as “nigger” by some. It’s not Politically Correct but I was raised to call them “blacks” and I still do, without malice or any other negative connotation meant by it. Thank you for being a perfect example of what I was saying though.

lol. most blacks today use the term blacks to describe themselves, especially in casual conversation. African-American is too long and awkward to use in everyday speech, that term is reserved for formal speech. It’s the same as calling a caucasian person ‘white.’ not offensive at all.

I’ve always thought “Japs” is an offensive term…
hmmm

Rollingrock, amongst themselves they also use “nigger”. Double standards among ethnicity, who ever it is, is hypocritical. And who is to say “white” is not offensive? If we wish to dig into history, “white-man” was a derogatory comment among Native-Americans whether it was called for or not. That aside, “Japs” was used as a derogatory term yet has interagrated itself into our culture and no longer holds the same rigid meaning it did in the ’40’s. Great example would be “cool”.

The jpas need to focus on making fuel efficient vehicles, the yanks know how to make gas guzzlers the best.

japs i mean

Call me a Kraut and most Germans dont get offended. The PCV world really is stupid. OHH dont offend anybody. This is why all the TRUE racists in the world are in hiding and we dont know who they are when dealing with them. I’d rather know someone doesnt like me because I have Cuban ancestry.

Everybody!! Grow up and stop using derogatory terms!!
Is it that difficult to fully type out a word or do you need spell-check?

wow….. racism…. its what runs america… tisk tisk……

A4

you seem like a very arrogant person ( not saying that in a bad way!) may i ask what ethnicity are you?

I’m a “Yank” and I say those who are over-sensitive are “just a bunch of pansies” (King Julian in movie Madagascar). I’ve been called a lot worse by friends in jest. Go back to your jobs as janitors, or “Facilities Maintenance and Sanitary Engineers”.

So my term Jap as shortening the word Japanese is now racist… Wow, it was used as a derogatory term towards the companies, not a particular person. If anyone is concluding that I, myself, is a racist for using such a term on companies – that I have purchased from (5 of the 8 I’ve owned were Japanese cars) you are the most over the top crazy politically correct lovin’ SOBs. Fight fights worth fighting. I have several friends that came from Japan and have the utmost respect for their country.

Did I offend any person refering to a company based out of Japan by calling it Jap? No. If you were AND you yourself is Japanese, well tough. Grow some thicker skin. Life’s hard and if something like calling Japan’s big 3 the Jap 3 on a message board about Japanese product’s getting a redesign 3 years too late, you need to get out in the real world and realize life is full of worse sh!t than that.

By Jakes logic, I buy German cars, I guess that would make me a racist then.
Bottom line is, everyone in the world is turning into a bunch of tight-assed, “PC” douchebags.
“Japs” isn’t a racist term, nor was he targeting any particular persons, like he said.
While some of you may think political correctness is the only way to live, your lack of common sense and the blinds you pull over your eyes is worlds more immature than someone making a “controversial” comment. Everybody gets crucified for the smallest things, even with the Audi guy and his “idiots” comment. Good for him, he has the balls to say what’s on his mind, and if I were him I wouldn’t even think of going back on it like he began to (go ahead and call me what you will for that, i’m sure a couple of you will have pathetic comebacks for it).
Political correctness is a joke, and it’s going to turn everyone into a miserable opinionless drone, and the current 18-25 generation realizes this a good bit more than current crop of bigwig fools who tear everyone apart who says something questionable (if you even want to call it that), so hopefully the future looks a little brighter for people saying what the hell they want. Lord knows I’m going to continue.
This PC crap is taking everyone to hell in a handbasket and like Jake said, if you’ve got a problem with a little comment saying “Japs”, go out in the real world and you probably won’t last very long.

The use of computers and world trade with most merchandise coming from a foreign country has made PC not stupid but necessary, as we interact far greater diversity than ever before on a daily basis. While some defend the use of “JAPS” I would like to know how many people who are of Janpanese heritage feel the term is a neutral as you say. And, there will always be a few who would scoff it off, so don’t point out the one or two friends of Japanese heritage who put up with it as they probably don’t want to offend you or want to pick a fight over it. I doubt there are many people on the floor of Japanese companies like Honda in this country who would refer to their bosses a “JAP” to their face when the top staff do their visits if it is so neutral and inoffensive. The people who say grow up and PC correctness is crap live in a world about 40 years behind the times. I say it’s time for you to grow up and live in the current times.

WHOA WHOA!

all i did was ask a question, all this crap would not of have been said if someone didnt point out that A4 said it.

A4, maybe people took you the wrong way, Elvacano asked did you say jap and you said yea …then went on to say anyone that doesnt use it is a bunch of sissies or somethng, something that wasnt called for because people actually don’t use it. Its not about people growing up, dude, its common sense, we all know it use to be an offensive term towards the japanese and maybe still is i dont know, and the last time i checked, the Quest and QX were built here on AMERICAN soil. (which is now being swithched to Japan) its not being a sissy, its called respect.
And the reason why i said racism is what runs american is because of crap like this, everyone was so quick to jump on the topic instead of moving on……..so this thread will have like 10000 comments not on nissan but racist derogatory terms.

if everyone is referring to the PC computers, sorry I have a Macintosh

^^ no hard feelings A4, im insinuating you might be mad about something ( cough*WW2*) i would be too.