Comments on: American consumers wake up to diesels http://www.leftlanenews.com/american-consumers-wake-up-to-diesels.html Car news, reviews, and specs for the auto-industry Sat, 20 Mar 2010 19:28:10 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: KhiKhi Nichole http://www.leftlanenews.com/american-consumers-wake-up-to-diesels.html/comment-page-1#comment-269483 KhiKhi Nichole Thu, 21 Sep 2006 03:07:23 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/08/29/american-consumers-wake-up-to-diesels/#comment-269483 I bought my 2005 Passat TDI Wagon for $6k below sticker in March of 05!!!!(grey/silver,leather,sunroof the works) I found it in Jacksonville Florida. The sales manager was telling me that nobody showed any interest in it. Lucky for me, Jacksonville consumers are clueless! I have been averaging 43mpg. I averaged 48mpg on a 1500 mile trip. I will gladly pay the same price per gallon as prem. gas...and get twice the MPG....DUH! My cargo space is larger then my sisters trail blazer and she gets a whopping 18mpg in town and 23 on the hwy. I have put 32k miles on my TDI in 18 months. I have had ZERO issues and have ZERO complaints. Three months ago a guy in North Carolina offered me $34k for it (that's above new MSRP and $6k more then I paid over a year ago/new). His brother in the midwest has a Passat TDI sedan and runs it on BIODIESEL! He claims to get nearly 100 mpg..... I LOVE MY VW PASSAT WAGON TDI.... I bought my 2005 Passat TDI Wagon for $6k below sticker in March of 05!!!!(grey/silver,leather,sunroof the works) I found it in Jacksonville Florida. The sales manager was telling me that nobody showed any interest in it. Lucky for me, Jacksonville consumers are clueless! I have been averaging 43mpg. I averaged 48mpg on a 1500 mile trip. I will gladly pay the same price per gallon as prem. gas…and get twice the MPG….DUH! My cargo space is larger then my sisters trail blazer and she gets a whopping 18mpg in town and 23 on the hwy. I have put 32k miles on my TDI in 18 months. I have had ZERO issues and have ZERO complaints. Three months ago a guy in North Carolina offered me $34k for it (that’s above new MSRP and $6k more then I paid over a year ago/new). His brother in the midwest has a Passat TDI sedan and runs it on BIODIESEL! He claims to get nearly 100 mpg….. I LOVE MY VW PASSAT WAGON TDI….

]]> By: Henry http://www.leftlanenews.com/american-consumers-wake-up-to-diesels.html/comment-page-1#comment-258212 Henry Thu, 31 Aug 2006 01:12:16 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/08/29/american-consumers-wake-up-to-diesels/#comment-258212 Renton, I don't think I could have said it better. Renton,

I don’t think I could have said it better.

]]> By: DPA687 http://www.leftlanenews.com/american-consumers-wake-up-to-diesels.html/comment-page-1#comment-257899 DPA687 Wed, 30 Aug 2006 15:15:23 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/08/29/american-consumers-wake-up-to-diesels/#comment-257899 When the second phase of BLUETEC arrives featuring the AdBlue injection system, the Mercedes-Benz diesels will be 50-state compliant. Probably 18-24 months out. Until then, Mercedes-Benz will offer phase one of BLUETEC in the E320 and just standard CDI technology in the ML, R, and GL classes starting this fall. When the second phase of BLUETEC arrives featuring the AdBlue injection system, the Mercedes-Benz diesels will be 50-state compliant. Probably 18-24 months out.

Until then, Mercedes-Benz will offer phase one of BLUETEC in the E320 and just standard CDI technology in the ML, R, and GL classes starting this fall.

]]> By: james http://www.leftlanenews.com/american-consumers-wake-up-to-diesels.html/comment-page-1#comment-257474 james Wed, 30 Aug 2006 05:54:41 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/08/29/american-consumers-wake-up-to-diesels/#comment-257474 wut Bimmer said... wut Bimmer said…

]]> By: Renton http://www.leftlanenews.com/american-consumers-wake-up-to-diesels.html/comment-page-1#comment-257318 Renton Wed, 30 Aug 2006 01:51:40 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/08/29/american-consumers-wake-up-to-diesels/#comment-257318 Too bad the enviro-nazis keep the good Teutonic diesels out of here. Too bad the enviro-nazis keep the good Teutonic diesels out of here.

]]> By: Bimmer http://www.leftlanenews.com/american-consumers-wake-up-to-diesels.html/comment-page-1#comment-257205 Bimmer Tue, 29 Aug 2006 23:27:34 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/08/29/american-consumers-wake-up-to-diesels/#comment-257205 E60 BMW 535d (2993cc, I6, 24V twin turbo Diesel): 272hp @ 4,000 rpm, 413 lb ft @ 2,000 rpm. 6-speed Automatic only, 0-62mph(100km/h): 6.5 sec, Top speed: 155mph (250 km/h). Combined mpg: 35.3 mp(Brithish)g. After DMS remap: 328hp, 481 lb ft. 'nough said. E60 BMW 535d (2993cc, I6, 24V twin turbo Diesel): 272hp @ 4,000 rpm, 413 lb ft @ 2,000 rpm. 6-speed Automatic only, 0-62mph(100km/h): 6.5 sec, Top speed: 155mph (250 km/h). Combined mpg: 35.3 mp(Brithish)g.
After DMS remap: 328hp, 481 lb ft.
‘nough said.

]]> By: The Stig http://www.leftlanenews.com/american-consumers-wake-up-to-diesels.html/comment-page-1#comment-257185 The Stig Tue, 29 Aug 2006 22:49:12 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/08/29/american-consumers-wake-up-to-diesels/#comment-257185 And yet I cannot get a diesel power car in California. Thank you very much. And yet I cannot get a diesel power car in California. Thank you very much.

]]> By: Daniel http://www.leftlanenews.com/american-consumers-wake-up-to-diesels.html/comment-page-1#comment-257132 Daniel Tue, 29 Aug 2006 22:06:29 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/08/29/american-consumers-wake-up-to-diesels/#comment-257132 On Motor Trend's highway test, the Jetta TDi got 50 mpg, beating out the Prius. Then again, in city driving, the Prius would beat the Jetta. But 50 mpg highway is enough to "wake me up" On Motor Trend’s highway test, the Jetta TDi got 50 mpg, beating out the Prius. Then again, in city driving, the Prius would beat the Jetta. But 50 mpg highway is enough to “wake me up”

]]> By: Kryptonite http://www.leftlanenews.com/american-consumers-wake-up-to-diesels.html/comment-page-1#comment-257007 Kryptonite Tue, 29 Aug 2006 19:42:08 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/08/29/american-consumers-wake-up-to-diesels/#comment-257007 My Beetle TDi= 48 mpg I can justify the difference in price at this point. My Beetle TDi= 48 mpg
I can justify the difference in price at this point.

]]> By: pj http://www.leftlanenews.com/american-consumers-wake-up-to-diesels.html/comment-page-1#comment-256972 pj Tue, 29 Aug 2006 19:32:45 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/08/29/american-consumers-wake-up-to-diesels/#comment-256972 diesel is just as expensive as premium in my city. If everyone goes to diesel their just gonna price gouge that too diesel is just as expensive as premium in my city. If everyone goes to diesel their just gonna price gouge that too

]]> By: 1c3d0g http://www.leftlanenews.com/american-consumers-wake-up-to-diesels.html/comment-page-1#comment-256905 1c3d0g Tue, 29 Aug 2006 19:09:24 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/08/29/american-consumers-wake-up-to-diesels/#comment-256905 "American consumers wake up to diesels" About damn time. I'm waiting impatiently for all the new SUV's to get their Diesel version...this will be a very important move, IMHO. “American consumers wake up to diesels”

About damn time. I’m waiting impatiently for all the new SUV’s to get their Diesel version…this will be a very important move, IMHO.

]]> By: YadaYadaYada http://www.leftlanenews.com/american-consumers-wake-up-to-diesels.html/comment-page-1#comment-256797 YadaYadaYada Tue, 29 Aug 2006 18:14:01 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/08/29/american-consumers-wake-up-to-diesels/#comment-256797 Diesel provides more BTUs/gallon than gasoline. About a 35% gain. Even at a dime or two above gasoline (less than a 10% premium at today's prices) you are still buying more kilojoules for every dollar. Diesel provides more BTUs/gallon than gasoline. About a 35% gain. Even at a dime or two above gasoline (less than a 10% premium at today’s prices) you are still buying more kilojoules for every dollar.

]]> By: nist777 http://www.leftlanenews.com/american-consumers-wake-up-to-diesels.html/comment-page-1#comment-256736 nist777 Tue, 29 Aug 2006 17:37:32 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/08/29/american-consumers-wake-up-to-diesels/#comment-256736 Chris C - Most diesels sold in USA are usually somewhere between 30 and 40 mpg. Although that is better than the regular gasoline cars, you'll still need to drive it for several years before you start to reap the financial rewards. On the other hand if you can somehow smuggle a Volkswagen Lupo into the USA, then you'll see results almost instantly. The Lupo gets an average of 80 MPG ;) The point is that all these new fuel-saving hype is really not effective at this stage. The hybrids have yet to prove their reliability and the current diesels won't give you a significant savings over gasoline (not to mention there are less stations offering diesel fuels) There are much better ways to save money than buying the newest and hippest gadget car on the market. For example you can buy a 10-year old civic that still gets 30mpg but it will only cost 1/20 of the new civic hybrid. Chris C – Most diesels sold in USA are usually somewhere between 30 and 40 mpg. Although that is better than the regular gasoline cars, you’ll still need to drive it for several years before you start to reap the financial rewards. On the other hand if you can somehow smuggle a Volkswagen Lupo into the USA, then you’ll see results almost instantly. The Lupo gets an average of 80 MPG ;)

The point is that all these new fuel-saving hype is really not effective at this stage. The hybrids have yet to prove their reliability and the current diesels won’t give you a significant savings over gasoline (not to mention there are less stations offering diesel fuels)

There are much better ways to save money than buying the newest and hippest gadget car on the market. For example you can buy a 10-year old civic that still gets 30mpg but it will only cost 1/20 of the new civic hybrid.

]]> By: Clitoral Stimulant http://www.leftlanenews.com/american-consumers-wake-up-to-diesels.html/comment-page-1#comment-256718 Clitoral Stimulant Tue, 29 Aug 2006 17:19:46 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/08/29/american-consumers-wake-up-to-diesels/#comment-256718 The low end torque and mid rev range push in the back of a good modern turbodiesel equipped car is awesome. VWs 2.0 Tdi is one of the best, need to overtake just floor it, no need to change down. shame only the 100bhp SDi has been available in the US The low end torque and mid rev range push in the back of a good modern turbodiesel equipped car is awesome. VWs 2.0 Tdi is one of the best, need to overtake just floor it, no need to change down. shame only the 100bhp SDi has been available in the US

]]> By: j i m http://www.leftlanenews.com/american-consumers-wake-up-to-diesels.html/comment-page-1#comment-256679 j i m Tue, 29 Aug 2006 17:03:40 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/08/29/american-consumers-wake-up-to-diesels/#comment-256679 The only bad thing about driving a diesel in the US is yer shoes track in spilt fuel and you need rubber gloves. I gather biodiesel eliminates those complaints. Chris C. If I got rid of cars every few years, then I'd stick to gas. Diesel fuel competes with heating oil for refinery space: cold winters are hard on diesels for a number of reasons. j i m The only bad thing about driving a diesel in the US is yer shoes track in spilt fuel and you need rubber gloves. I gather biodiesel eliminates those complaints.

Chris C. If I got rid of cars every few years, then I’d stick to gas. Diesel fuel competes with heating oil for refinery space: cold winters are hard on diesels for a number of reasons.

j i m

]]> By: Chris C. http://www.leftlanenews.com/american-consumers-wake-up-to-diesels.html/comment-page-1#comment-256664 Chris C. Tue, 29 Aug 2006 16:53:33 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/08/29/american-consumers-wake-up-to-diesels/#comment-256664 I'm not sure about where you all live however; here diesel is about 3 to 4 cents higher than premium unleaded. I'm sure diesels get better mileage than gasoline however; does the added mileage out-weigh the added cost? I’m not sure about where you all live however; here diesel is about 3 to 4 cents higher than premium unleaded. I’m sure diesels get better mileage than gasoline however; does the added mileage out-weigh the added cost?

]]> By: YadaYadaYada http://www.leftlanenews.com/american-consumers-wake-up-to-diesels.html/comment-page-1#comment-256642 YadaYadaYada Tue, 29 Aug 2006 16:47:51 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/08/29/american-consumers-wake-up-to-diesels/#comment-256642 Because Oldsmobile put the idea to sleep a few decades back. Those cars were so awful, they scared away most Americans since. Because Oldsmobile put the idea to sleep a few decades back. Those cars were so awful, they scared away most Americans since.

]]> By: Kryptonite http://www.leftlanenews.com/american-consumers-wake-up-to-diesels.html/comment-page-1#comment-256618 Kryptonite Tue, 29 Aug 2006 16:37:17 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/08/29/american-consumers-wake-up-to-diesels/#comment-256618 3 out of the four vehicles I own are diesel..... 3 out of the four vehicles I own are diesel…..

]]> By: Stuart http://www.leftlanenews.com/american-consumers-wake-up-to-diesels.html/comment-page-1#comment-256586 Stuart Tue, 29 Aug 2006 16:22:22 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/08/29/american-consumers-wake-up-to-diesels/#comment-256586 Wait till cars like the Mercedes SL420 CDI comes out. That number sky rocket Wait till cars like the Mercedes SL420 CDI comes out. That number sky rocket

]]> By: Robert http://www.leftlanenews.com/american-consumers-wake-up-to-diesels.html/comment-page-1#comment-256583 Robert Tue, 29 Aug 2006 16:21:25 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/08/29/american-consumers-wake-up-to-diesels/#comment-256583 With clean diesel technology allowing diesel engines to meet Tier II Bin 5 and 4 standards (LEV and ULEV II in California), I'd say let's bring these diesels quickly. Diesels are now equal to or better than gasoline engines in every way. They are also more durable and less expensive to maintain than hybrids and nearly equally as efficient. I think they represent a great option for many consumers and the industry that is struggling to produce the number the batteries needed for hybrids each year. With clean diesel technology allowing diesel engines to meet Tier II Bin 5 and 4 standards (LEV and ULEV II in California), I’d say let’s bring these diesels quickly. Diesels are now equal to or better than gasoline engines in every way. They are also more durable and less expensive to maintain than hybrids and nearly equally as efficient. I think they represent a great option for many consumers and the industry that is struggling to produce the number the batteries needed for hybrids each year.

]]> By: Andrew http://www.leftlanenews.com/american-consumers-wake-up-to-diesels.html/comment-page-1#comment-256581 Andrew Tue, 29 Aug 2006 16:21:11 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/08/29/american-consumers-wake-up-to-diesels/#comment-256581 Diesels are great... and people are realizing it now. Prices average out at about midgrade levels over time (sometimes far more than premium- like now, and sometimes far less than regular), and obviously fuel economy is about 30-40% better than equivalent gas models. I've toyed with purchasing a 2005 Passat TDI in the last 3 months... good luck finding one! And when you do find one, the price is very close (if not more than) the original sticker price. Hmmm... Diesels are great… and people are realizing it now. Prices average out at about midgrade levels over time (sometimes far more than premium- like now, and sometimes far less than regular), and obviously fuel economy is about 30-40% better than equivalent gas models.

I’ve toyed with purchasing a 2005 Passat TDI in the last 3 months… good luck finding one! And when you do find one, the price is very close (if not more than) the original sticker price. Hmmm…

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