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AMG considering smaller SLS?

11/12/2009, 6:18 PM

By Drew Johnson

Mercedes-Benz’ AMG division is in the midst of launching the SLS supercar, but the German performance brand is reportedly looking ahead to its next product offering. With the Porsche 911 squarely in its sights, AMG is considering a smaller – and less expensive – version of the SLS.

Speaking at the SLS’ launch event in Monterey, California, AMG execs revealed to Piston Heads that the company was considering a smaller model based on the SLS architecture. The ‘baby’ SLS would sport a smaller footprint than the SLS, allowing it to compete with more compact models such as the Porsche 911.

Although a mid-engine layout was originally on the table, AMG officials have decided to stay true to the brand and stick with a front engine/rear-drive layout. However, as the SLS’s engine is placed far back in the chassis, there is essentially a gap of wasted space between the engine and the front of the car. The smaller SLS would do away with that space, allowing for a more compact design.

If given the go-ahead, the next AMG product will feature a next-generation V8, displacing between 5.8L and 6.2L. The engine would undoubtedly feature direct injection, as well as AMG’s new cylinder deactivation technology. AMG’s cylinder cutoff technology – which allows the vehicle to run on just four-cylinders during light loads — will bow in the next iteration of the SLS.

AMG brass has yet to give the smaller SLS the green light, but even if the go-ahead is given, don’t expect to see AMG’s 911-fighter until at least 2015.

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11/12, 6:24 PM

posted by:

AutoCritical

It’ll be interesting to see how it turns out.

I like the idea of competing against the Porsche, but at the same time hope they don’t spoil the ‘original’ design
with this smaller version.

11/12, 8:05 PM

posted by:

Rafa LL

AC, true.
They better watch the proportions and definitely stay out of SLKs.

Talking about Porsche, who else would dare to make a rear-engined sports car?

11/12, 8:28 PM

posted by:

ayrtonJ

So what are they gonna call it? SLSK? They can’t use SLK where K usually denotes Kompact.

11/12, 9:17 PM

posted by:

wideopenthrottle

Man, mercedes and BMW are going head to head on everything, including number of models offered. That being said, if they execute the styling well, and price it competitively (with the 911) I think it will be a hit. And I didn’t mention performance, because AMG has never had a problem with that.

11/12, 10:22 PM

posted by:

reedfast

^ you do realize BMW and Porsche are completely unaffiliated right?
porsche is owned by VW.

11/12, 11:05 PM

posted by:

nickkop

^ ^^ hahaha wooow

11/12, 11:12 PM

posted by:

nickkop

this should be neat.. the SLS is growing on me.. i bet it would be quite beautiful in person…

the should give this SLC / SLA or whatever they call it a smaller motor, definitely…. AMG does need to begin developing a smaller performance engine if they are going to follow their competitors and the market… a turbocharged DI Inline-6 or V6 completely engineered by AMG independently of MB would be very neat….
and it could create a lot of power and torque and still deliver much better fuel efficiency than the V8 if done right….

11/12, 11:12 PM

posted by:

nickkop

they should*

11/12, 11:54 PM

posted by:

e46Ne90

ok AMG is so played out its not even exclusive anymore…AMG on every single SUV, minivan, trucks mercedes make

11/13, 12:39 AM

posted by:

A4

So they’ll just shorten up the unnecessarily long, penis shaped snout of the current SLS? Sounds like refinement to me.

11/13, 1:00 AM

posted by:

German

I think it would be a good idea to build an ”entry version SLS” to compete with its prime competitors from Audi (R8) and Porsche (911). Essential would be in this scenario to keep up the front engine trans-axle architecture which ensures a unique handling and would give the car some distinction from the two earlier mentioned ones.

@ e46
I have to disagree with you! AMG chooses it’s projects very , for example there are no AMG Versions of the A,B,R,GL Classes as they would not be suitable for an AMG make-over.

11/13, 2:32 AM

posted by:

atoms

direct injection I6 would be a great step back to their roots

11/13, 7:12 AM

posted by:

scratchy

i have read somewhere they want to use the baby SLS for racing , a GT2 Mercedes would be very nice, especially now when that category is getting more popular.

11/13, 9:16 AM

posted by:

nickkop

german : there actually was an R63 on offer… in the united states, no less

11/13, 10:13 AM

posted by:

German

@nickkop: ah right I forgot there was an US version on sale sorry about that…it’s not on sale in Germany. I guess it was one of the models which were enforced on AMG by Mercedes-Benz, like the M Class (which turned out to be quite succesful on the market in the end).

But my point still is that AMG isn’t selling out, like back when they wanted to bring out an AMG Version of the A Class and they couldn’t get the clutch and the gearbox to work with the modified AMG Engine the planed A21 AMG became the A 210 Evolution.

I think you are always getting your money’s worth when buying a Mercedes-Benz with components from Affalterbach…and considering the price difference to the normal models it is still an exclusive honor to own one of them.

Of course I know that the percentage of AMGs compared to normal Mercedes is a lot higher in the states than it is in Germany! (but that is a different story :) )

11/13, 10:37 AM

posted by:

fan

oh, and the had an AMG A-Class on offer… the smallest engine ever to bear the AMG Label: A 210
but this was the 1st gen A-Class.

As for the B-Class: Nope, theres no AMG B-Class
as for the R-Class: sorry, your wrong. There is a AMG R…
GL: Not sure about this, but why shouldnt it be appliable to the GL? Theres a AMG G63 for petes sake, so why shouldnt there be a GL63?

11/13, 11:29 AM

posted by:

nickkop

fan… i see you point, but probably because the AMG G-wagen (G63) is considered and marketed as an off-roader… while the GL, not so much… more like a stretched ML (not great for off-road ability) with different engine offerings and styling (more upmarket?), etc…

11/13, 12:01 PM

posted by:

e46Ne90

@ german
you are wrong, there is R63 AMG and there will be GL63 AMG coming out soon. add ML AMG, G wagon AMG, S63/65, CL63/65, SL55/63/black to the list. There’s just too many damn version of AMG within AMG Im sure MB will work on AMG version of A class and B class when it gets available in the states

11/13, 12:10 PM

posted by:

scratchy

@e46Ne90 , AMG versions of normal Mercedes cars is not the same as a car developed entirely by AMG. i’m sure the SLS clients know the difference.

11/14, 9:21 PM

posted by:

Need more oil for the VW Group

911’s a legend, dont mess

11/16, 1:44 AM

posted by:

German

Okay first of all there is no such thing as a G63 AMG on the market! The current AMG Version of the G Class is still powered by the 5,4l V8 and therefore called G 55 AMG.
There was a special limited edition G 63 AMG powered by a V12. The G Class has always been one of the favourite cars for AMG’s projects.

The current A and B Class will not, nor have ever had an AMG Version! As I tried to explain earlier the efforts of building an A Class (W168) AMG were not crowned by a satisfiying outcome from AMG’s point of view so the A21 AMG became the A210 Evolution. In the future there might be AMG versions of the entry level MB cars, as the next generation will have a completly different architecure (e.g.. no sandwich floor concept) which might enable a more aggresive handling and more room for a bigger drive train supplied by the in-house tuner.

By the way the plans for an GL63 AMG were also canceled after the R63 failed even the very low expectations (it was only introduced to boost the struggling sales of the R Class)

11/16, 9:22 AM

posted by:

n2k

Don’t know if i like the idea of a BUDGET GULLWING. say it with me now BUDGET GULLWING. doesn’t exactly roll off the tongue. Perhaps if they made the doors suicide style or ‘winged’ like aston DB (just to differentiate the models) You should never water down a showstopper.

11/19, 1:41 PM

posted by:

nickkop

GERMAN: actually you are right… it was the G55 AMG… my bad….and it is still being offered, is it not ?

 
 
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