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Audi considering CLS competitor?

03/28/2006, 5:11 PM

By admin

Audi is considering building a competitor to the Mercedes CLS-Class, according to Germany’s Auto Motor und Sport magazine. Called the “A7,” the four-door coupe is expected to debut some time after the A5 two-door. The A5, according to the report, will at the end of 2007, as a 2008 model. We suspect the 2009 A7 might share a platform with the much-rumored Volkswagen four-door coupe, however no solid information is available at this time. An artist’s rendering shows how the car might look.

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03/28, 7:10 PM

posted by:

John

I cant wait to see how this turns out!

03/28, 7:22 PM

posted by:

Phil

Whoopdeedo. Just another reason why Audi’s highly-lauded design is overrated. Just looks the same as any other Audi. I can’t tell the difference between this an an A4, A6, or an A8. They all look the same…boring.

03/28, 7:46 PM

posted by:

junkie

Cool.
Maybe Craig can post how this car is insulting to AMG and Merceeds-Benz.

03/28, 9:32 PM

posted by:

Asher

At what point can we stop calling a 4-door a COUPE? This is starting to really bother me! If its a 4-door sedan like the CLS, then its NOT a coupe, not matter what the high-paid marketing execs tell us. True, this Audi looks like the rest but it avoids the critical design error of the CLS rear.

03/28, 10:51 PM

posted by:

John

Hey Phil, way to criticize without actually seeing the car! That photo, like so many others on this fine site, is an ARTIST’S RENDERING— Not the actual car! Now we can all just take your opinion and throw it out, because we all know you’re going to pre-judge any Audi that comes out as boring and the same as all the others! Congratulations! Oh, and we’re all very impressed that you can’t tell the difference between an A4 and A8. It really speaks volumes about your knowledge of cars.

I personally like the CLS rear, but I can understand not liking it.

03/28, 11:16 PM

posted by:

Count Drokoo

You gonna take that Phil?

03/29, 1:01 AM

posted by:

Phil

No, I will not take that.

I am entitled to my opinion as you are yours. However, John, you are not entitled to being a nutjob. I actually own Volkswagen and GM products, and I criticize both company’s products freely. For instance, I can say that while I love my Jetta, its build quality is overrated (as well as some of the interior materials), much as I think Audi’s exterior design is overrated. That does not mean I don’t think Audis are or can be attractive. In fact, their styling is inoffensive for the most part and good-looking in spots. I will go ahead and retract my earlier statement and say that this A7 rendering is attractive, and I will admit that I came to my earlier conclusion too quickly without even clicking on the link and seeing the full image. However, that doesn’t make you any less of a nutjob. And while Audi can design some nice looking cars, other car companies are capable of designing as attractive or more attractive cars. And sometimes, some details don’t do it for me in a car design. With Lexus, it’s the side mirrors and front end. And with Audi, its the door handles and side body crease. I just don’t believe Audi deserves to be put on a pedestal for their designs; I wouldn’t consider it the benchmark in the automotive industry. I think that title goes to BMW, as offensive as some may find their styling. I have historically seen many more instances of other companies copying BMW design elements (e.g. the Hofmeister kink), and with good reason. In regards to interior design, besides the A8, Audi’s interiors still have a 1990s BMW look to my eyes. In other words, I think BMW has moved farther forward than Audi has in interior design, as well as exterior. And I personally like BMW’s design language better.

03/29, 1:58 AM

posted by:

Chris G

1990s BMWs have their interiors focus in on the driver; Audi interiors just use rounded rectangles and a lot of symmetry. And I dunno…Audis may be all the same, but that’s so that the company can build a brand image. That way their cars are instantly recognizable, and maybe people will like that. Hey, I can tell the difference between an A4, A6, and A8; I just see how long the car is (heh). No seriously, the only thing one Audi model shares with another is the grill.

03/29, 2:56 AM

posted by:

Misha

Wow, that design is pretty attractive. I hope Audi makes it.

It’s interesting how the Mercedes CLS really has started a new market of these four door coupes. I’m sure we’ll see a BMW version soon. I’m hoping Cadillac and Lincoln can bring one to market in the next five years.

03/29, 8:20 AM

posted by:

Nice Work

You did a good job there, Phil. I applaud your civility.

03/29, 8:42 AM

posted by:

Chas Williams

COUPE’ (coopay) is the pronunciation for 2 door car in europe. There are 4 doors designated in europe as coupe.

Noun: coupe koo’pey
A car with two doors and front seats and a luggage compartment
- coupé
Derived forms: coupés, coupes

Type of: auto, automobile, car, machine, motorcar

Encyclopedia: Coupe

Coupé
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1995 Buick Riviera coupéA coupé (from the French for cut) or coupe is a car body style with a close-coupled interior offering either two seats or 2+2 seating (space for two passengers up front and for two occasional passengers in the rear). Through the 1950s convertible models were sometimes called convertible coupés, but since the 1960s the term coupé has generally been applied exclusively to fixed-roof models. Coupés generally, but not necessarily, have two doors, although automobile makers have offered four-door coupés and three- and five-door hatchback coupés, as well.

A coupé is distinguished from a sedan primarily by interior volume; SAE standard J1100 defines a coupé as a fixed-roof automobile with less than 33 ft³ (0.93 m³, 934.6 L) of rear interior volume. A car with a greater interior volume is technically a two-door sedan, not a coupé, even if it has only two doors. Some automakers may nonetheless choose to use the word coupé to describe such a model, e.g., the Cadillac Coupe de Ville.

03/29, 9:02 AM

posted by:

Northeasterner

What’s up with this new segment (and the naming!). The CLS is attractive but it makes E-class pointless. Why have so many sedans when they’ll have to cut them when the bottom lines go into red…?

03/29, 9:23 AM

posted by:

Downshift

CLS stands for Coupe-Like-Sedan. Anyway, that’s what it should stand for.

One can only hope that Audi’s sedan derivatives are distinguished by more than styling. Is it asking too much to make them, say, lighter?

What right-thinking person would pass up the versatility of the four-door 5-series for the dynamically identical 6-series?

03/29, 1:00 PM

posted by:

John

Phil: We’re all entitled to our opinions, but the fact is, as Chris G put it, the only thing one Audi model shares with another is the grill. I actually own an A8, and I can tell the difference between it and all the other Audi’s I see driving around. I also agree the build quality is highly overrated, as I spend roughly $1000 a month in repairs on it. However, its the nicest car I’ve ever driven, and I’ve owned 7 Mercedes in my lifetime (nice ones, too). While I agree many car companies design cars that are of equal or greater beauty than Audi’s, that does not mean should discredit their design. I don’t put their design “on a pedestal,” but I do appreciate their unique beauty. I also think Audi has possibly the best interior design of the luxury groups, next to some more expensive Mercedes models, and their onboard computer/nav system is certainly the best laid out and easiest to use. I love BMW, I think their cars look great, inside and out. However, I think their cars used to have a more solid design than they do now, and I think their onboard computer/nav system is not user friendly enough.

I do apologize for the harshness of my original response. I’m just sick of people who find the Audi articles just to tell everyone how they think they all look the same and that they think its boring, without even reading the article. Much like you did, criticizing Audi’s design not only without actually bothering to look at the photo, as you admitted, but not bothering to take into account the fact that Audi didn’t even design the car in the picture. And can we grow up and get over the name calling?

 
 
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