Comments on: Audi downsizing: S5 to switch to V6; S6 to get V8

By: HavanaRob

HavanaRob — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 17:33:08 +0000

As reticent as I am to chime in on this, there is a bit of truth to olds307 and his assumption. It’s not that the GM cars were built better, but that they were designed simpler. Ask any Audi Allroad owner after the warranty runs out what his/her repair bills are like. The Allroad was a wonderful car, but like many Audis, horrendously complex. Between the twin-turbo V6 and the hydro-pneumatic suspension, they are a nightmare to maintain. I’m still waiting to pick up another Allroad with the 4.2 V8 (I’m a glutton for punishment) after nose-bleed repair bills from my last one, because they are wonderfully engineered cars. But they are complex as well, which combined with an observedly poor dealer support network, can be too costly for most.

By: A4

A4 — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:01:44 +0000

and yeah olds, the 1994 S6 is a car an olds driver SHOULD dump their grannymobile for in a second… nice car jonmiles

By: A4

A4 — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 02:50:56 +0000

so will it be cheaper? cause its quite a price premium rip off for an S5 over an S4 if you ask me

By: Veda

Veda — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 01:42:07 +0000

No, people with money can buy Ferraris cash instead of loans credits whatever… The US mentality of being able to afford anything that can be leased is what gets us into this world crisis in the first place.

By: jonmiles

jonmiles — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:51:47 +0000

I have a 1994 S6 with 184,000 miles on it that drives as nice as the day it rolled off the lot. Further, Audi is a company that is constantly improving, while GM has been continually getting worse for the past 40 years.

By: olds307

olds307 — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:41:21 +0000

Here’s the original title to prove I bought it from the original owner (who I thought was going to cry when he was unscrewing the plates!):
http://www.onecoolguy.net/olds_title.jpg

By: Borat

Borat — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:31:28 +0000

Peopel with money can afford either to lease every 3-4 years or even buy and pay someone to repair the car they love to drive.

By: olds307

olds307 — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:30:57 +0000

There are very few old Audis (and front engine VWs) around because after a few years they become very troublesome and very expensive to maintain, the average repair bill being $3000.

There are lots of old GM cars around because they were well built to begin with, and when they do break parts are cheap, and most jobs are relatively straightforward, reducing labor time, which translates to $80 per hour where I work.

By: howsmydriving

howsmydriving — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:27:46 +0000

Audi downsizing — like this is unexpected??? Audi always tries to pawn off small displacement engines on unsuspecting consumers.

By: olds307

olds307 — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:27:04 +0000

I bought mine from the original owner in 06.

By: sakio327

sakio327 — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:16:25 +0000

olds307: That’s because people who bought an 81 Audi had money to buy an 85 Audi, then an 89 Audi……

People who bought an 81 Olds sold it to a guy in 88, who sold it to you in 98…..

By: olds307

olds307 — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:13:49 +0000

Anyone who has been in the automobile repair industry is familiar with the fact that if you want an Audi you lease it because after 3 years its time to replace it.

By: olds307

olds307 — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:56:48 +0000

pzimet: You probably have never worked on one.

I didn’t say “AUDI is horrible to drive”

I said they’re scrap. I will admit, very nice driving scrap, when new.

Meanwhile my 1981 Oldsmobile is still running and provides me with reliable daily transportation, there are no 1981 Audis still around.

By: Mutant@DCX

Mutant@DCX — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:34:13 +0000

More room for the warmer & and the NOS

By: dmlgc

dmlgc — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:25:26 +0000

I don’t view it as power war coming to end just taking a different approach. If you don’t have a big heavy ass engine but can get same or more horsepower from light engine, car will be lighter which equals better performance.

The “make bigger engine to get more horsepower” is old way of thinking, with turbos and chips the manufacturers can make lighter cars.

By: pzimet

pzimet — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:06:42 +0000

Necessary really, but sad.

olds307: You probably have never driven one, I mean, that’s the only reasonable way you could make such a ****ing inbred, retarded statement. Oldsmobile’s are crap…don’t believe me? Which brand is still around, and which died selling tired, outdated, POS products?

By: olds307

olds307 — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:03:39 +0000

Audis are scrap anyway.

By: atoms

atoms — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:54:22 +0000

I liked the M5’s and M6’s with the V10, the only way they can make it better if it has a stupid amount of power and torque like MB’s AMG V12TT

By: danat86

danat86 — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:49:28 +0000

german power war is not coming to an end, everybody is getting hit by economy. Audi understands that people are losing money and they are making future decision, even though their sales are going up. They want to make sure that sales figures will keep going. This has nothing to do with hp war

By: Lariat Luxury Locomotive Liner No.3

Lariat Luxury Locomotive Liner No.3 — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:40:04 +0000

“Shame, looks like the German power war is coming to an end…”
.
Wouldn’t it be more along the lines of oil coming to an end…?

By: carbonsigma

carbonsigma — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:35:06 +0000

I was under the impression that the new M5 and M6 would have twin-turbo V10s?

Shame, looks like the German power war is coming to an end…