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Audi gives Euopean buyers 2.0L TSFI engine option for A5 coupe

06/25/2008, 4:57 PM

By Drew Johnson

Audi has announced that it will be adding a 2.0L TFSI powerplant to its European A5 range. Although the new engine ups the A5’s fuel economy to a claimed 36 mpg, there is no word if the four-pot will eventually be offered in the U.S.-spec A5.

Based on the company’s 1.8L TFSI powerplant, the 2.0L makes a healthy 208 horsepower and 258 lb-ft of torque. When mated with a six-speed manual transmission sending power to only the front wheels, the four-cylinder A5 can hit 62 mph in 6.9 seconds, on its way to an electronically limited top speed of 155 mph.

Prices for the front-wheel drive A5 2.0 TFSI start at £28,760, with the all-wheel drive model listing from £30,285. European Audi dealers are currently taking orders, with deliveries beginning in August.

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06/25, 5:01 PM

posted by:

A4

PLEASEEE give it to the US!

06/25, 5:01 PM

posted by:

xyunya

There is no VW in US with 20L TFSI that get 36 mpg. Even smaller Golf/Rabbit GTI with the same engine and lighter car nowhere near those numbers. My bet is it will come here: engine is certified and it is the best Audi can do to improve efficiency in US

06/25, 5:07 PM

posted by:

A4

yeah 36 mpg happens on a downhill, i averaged 22-24 mpg with alot of highway miles although i do have a very heavy foot

06/25, 6:11 PM

posted by:

hanno

I get at least 29mpg on my daily commute, with a best of 37mpg. That’s with the 2.0T Passat.

06/25, 6:32 PM

posted by:

masterwashu

I’m curious, how do you know how much mpg you’re getting, is it the trip computer or are you actually measuring how many miles driven divided by the number of gallons it needs to fill up?

06/25, 6:41 PM

posted by:

johnnycanuck

Until the price of diesel is less than gasoline they might as well stick a vegematic under the hood for all it matters.

06/25, 6:44 PM

posted by:

Gundy

I get 26 mpg with my 2002 TT with a 6-speed. 35+ with a huge car like the A5? I don’t see how that’s possible with a non-diesel engine.

06/25, 7:09 PM

posted by:

e36m

YAY ANOTHER FWD TURBO 4, sheeesh for that price you can buy a much better car.

06/26, 12:30 AM

posted by:

hanno

Both.

06/26, 1:58 AM

posted by:

bayrider

masterwashu, on the VW there is a meter that measures your MPG at the current rate your driving, as well another meter that shows your average mpg on the entire tank. I noticed 65mph yields the best mpg while driving. On my Passat 35mpg isn’t uncommon on the highway.

06/26, 3:54 AM

posted by:

Stinky007

I think they are lying on two accounts:
1. That gas engine will NOT get 36 MPGs no matter how you look at it. Let me give you an example: my car has a non-turbo 1.6 liter gas engine with 110bhp. The car weighs 1150kg or 2500lbs and the best mileage I got out of it was 37MPG. I usually drive it a bit over the speed limit and I get like 30MPG.
2. They are definitely lying about the 0-60 time. They say it’s similar to the Golf GTI, but that weights less…

Expect this to happen in the near future, as most manufacturers will lie more and more about MPGs and 0-60 times, as they try to sell more fuel-efficient cars but don’t want to lose the performance-oriented driver.

06/26, 4:42 AM

posted by:

Siggistef

I would like to point few things out to you Americans saying it is impossible to get 36 MPG with this car. You are complaining that you can’t get anywhere near that MPG in similar or smaller cars and say Audi are lying.

First of all, you use 87, 89, and 91 octane fuel where in Europe we use 95, 98 and 100. There is your reason, higher octane fuel is more powerful, burns better and emits less pollution. Second of all: “Most turbocharged vehicles are unable to produce full power, even when using the “premium” 91 AKI fuel.”

06/26, 4:50 AM

posted by:

Siggistef

Excuse me, didn’t mean so say it burns better, it explodes better leaving a cleaner burn.

06/26, 10:52 AM

posted by:

928dreamer

The improved fuel efficiency comes from the FSI part. The current 2.0 turbo fours don’t have direct injection. This technology makes for a much more efficient combustion process and helps keep the cylinder heads cooler reducing the likelyhood of detonation. I think 36 MPG should be achievable.

Also, you can not directly compare octane numbers from European fuel vs US fuel. Europe uses RON measurement and US uses R+M/2 to calculate octane. This equates to European 95 is about US 89-90. On average European gas is better, but not by the margin most think due to the discrepancy in numbers. Also, higher octane fuel does not have more energy or power. It simply burns slower. This helps reduce the likelyhood to predetonation in high compression or high boost vehicles. In cars designed to run on high octane power can be lost due to the fact that modern engines will retard cam timing to protect the engine if it senses knock. This reduces power and efficiency. No benefit in higher octane on cars not designed for it.

06/26, 12:19 PM

posted by:

Need4SSpeed

Well if those claims are true then DAMN! And in such a beautiful car such as the A5, can’t beat that.

06/26, 12:28 PM

posted by:

RaineMan

36MPG should be attainable with that engine. I’m driving a Cobalt SS with the supercharged 2.0 and I hit 35MPG cruising on the highway at 65-70MPH. It is really more about the transmission than it is the engine. Put a really long overdrive gear in at 6th and you can rumble down the freeway all day long barely turning 2000 RPM. With 250+ lb/ft of torque on tap it’ll be plenty enough to move the A5 around… and the lovely thing about boosted engines is that there are always modifications available. CAI and 2.5″ turbo-back exhaust will free up plenty more power, and fuel economy to go with it.

06/26, 12:59 PM

posted by:

hanno

928dreamer, the current Audi/VW 2.0T is the TFSI model. One possible difference is between Imperial mpg and US mpg, since the Imperial gallon is more (larger) than the US gallon, which means a higher mpg rating… not sure which they are listing. The new engine has variable valve lift where the current model does not.

06/26, 9:43 PM

posted by:

Veda

That would make it the ultimate GT for cruising across US.

06/27, 12:49 AM

posted by:

bigp

well when can we pick up a car nice package

06/27, 10:34 AM

posted by:

whatifidisagreewithyou

Pretty sure that they are quoting 36 MPG imperial – that is about 30 MPG US.

Also, I think that the HP stated is bhp (used in Europe), not SAE – the difference here is minimal… I think that this engine is the one that puts our 211 SAE HP (think I read that somewhere else, but not sure where, so don’t quote me on that one.)

These differences should be considered when comparing to your real world numbers for whatever vehicle you mention. Pretty sure that they are not lying – I just think that the units are not what you guys are thinking they are.

 
 
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