Comments on: Audi gives Euopean buyers 2.0L TSFI engine option for A5 coupe

By: whatifidisagreewithyou

whatifidisagreewithyou — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:34:29 +0000

Pretty sure that they are quoting 36 MPG imperial – that is about 30 MPG US.

Also, I think that the HP stated is bhp (used in Europe), not SAE – the difference here is minimal… I think that this engine is the one that puts our 211 SAE HP (think I read that somewhere else, but not sure where, so don’t quote me on that one.)

These differences should be considered when comparing to your real world numbers for whatever vehicle you mention. Pretty sure that they are not lying – I just think that the units are not what you guys are thinking they are.

By: bigp

bigp — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 04:49:43 +0000

well when can we pick up a car nice package

By: Veda

Veda — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 01:43:20 +0000

That would make it the ultimate GT for cruising across US.

By: hanno

hanno — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:59:24 +0000

928dreamer, the current Audi/VW 2.0T is the TFSI model. One possible difference is between Imperial mpg and US mpg, since the Imperial gallon is more (larger) than the US gallon, which means a higher mpg rating… not sure which they are listing. The new engine has variable valve lift where the current model does not.

By: RaineMan

RaineMan — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:28:47 +0000

36MPG should be attainable with that engine. I’m driving a Cobalt SS with the supercharged 2.0 and I hit 35MPG cruising on the highway at 65-70MPH. It is really more about the transmission than it is the engine. Put a really long overdrive gear in at 6th and you can rumble down the freeway all day long barely turning 2000 RPM. With 250+ lb/ft of torque on tap it’ll be plenty enough to move the A5 around… and the lovely thing about boosted engines is that there are always modifications available. CAI and 2.5″ turbo-back exhaust will free up plenty more power, and fuel economy to go with it.

By: Need4SSpeed

Need4SSpeed — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:19:49 +0000

Well if those claims are true then DAMN! And in such a beautiful car such as the A5, can’t beat that.

By: 928dreamer

928dreamer — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 14:52:54 +0000

The improved fuel efficiency comes from the FSI part. The current 2.0 turbo fours don’t have direct injection. This technology makes for a much more efficient combustion process and helps keep the cylinder heads cooler reducing the likelyhood of detonation. I think 36 MPG should be achievable.

Also, you can not directly compare octane numbers from European fuel vs US fuel. Europe uses RON measurement and US uses R+M/2 to calculate octane. This equates to European 95 is about US 89-90. On average European gas is better, but not by the margin most think due to the discrepancy in numbers. Also, higher octane fuel does not have more energy or power. It simply burns slower. This helps reduce the likelyhood to predetonation in high compression or high boost vehicles. In cars designed to run on high octane power can be lost due to the fact that modern engines will retard cam timing to protect the engine if it senses knock. This reduces power and efficiency. No benefit in higher octane on cars not designed for it.

By: Siggistef

Siggistef — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 08:50:30 +0000

Excuse me, didn’t mean so say it burns better, it explodes better leaving a cleaner burn.

By: Siggistef

Siggistef — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 08:42:07 +0000

I would like to point few things out to you Americans saying it is impossible to get 36 MPG with this car. You are complaining that you can’t get anywhere near that MPG in similar or smaller cars and say Audi are lying.

First of all, you use 87, 89, and 91 octane fuel where in Europe we use 95, 98 and 100. There is your reason, higher octane fuel is more powerful, burns better and emits less pollution. Second of all: “Most turbocharged vehicles are unable to produce full power, even when using the “premium” 91 AKI fuel.”

By: Stinky007

Stinky007 — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 07:54:31 +0000

I think they are lying on two accounts:
1. That gas engine will NOT get 36 MPGs no matter how you look at it. Let me give you an example: my car has a non-turbo 1.6 liter gas engine with 110bhp. The car weighs 1150kg or 2500lbs and the best mileage I got out of it was 37MPG. I usually drive it a bit over the speed limit and I get like 30MPG.
2. They are definitely lying about the 0-60 time. They say it’s similar to the Golf GTI, but that weights less…

Expect this to happen in the near future, as most manufacturers will lie more and more about MPGs and 0-60 times, as they try to sell more fuel-efficient cars but don’t want to lose the performance-oriented driver.

By: bayrider

bayrider — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 05:58:36 +0000

masterwashu, on the VW there is a meter that measures your MPG at the current rate your driving, as well another meter that shows your average mpg on the entire tank. I noticed 65mph yields the best mpg while driving. On my Passat 35mpg isn’t uncommon on the highway.

By: hanno

hanno — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 04:30:58 +0000

Both.

By: e36m

e36m — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:09:18 +0000

YAY ANOTHER FWD TURBO 4, sheeesh for that price you can buy a much better car.

By: Gundy

Gundy — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 22:44:29 +0000

I get 26 mpg with my 2002 TT with a 6-speed. 35+ with a huge car like the A5? I don’t see how that’s possible with a non-diesel engine.

By: johnnycanuck

johnnycanuck — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 22:41:33 +0000

Until the price of diesel is less than gasoline they might as well stick a vegematic under the hood for all it matters.

By: masterwashu

masterwashu — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 22:32:59 +0000

I’m curious, how do you know how much mpg you’re getting, is it the trip computer or are you actually measuring how many miles driven divided by the number of gallons it needs to fill up?

By: hanno

hanno — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 22:11:08 +0000

I get at least 29mpg on my daily commute, with a best of 37mpg. That’s with the 2.0T Passat.

By: A4

A4 — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 21:07:19 +0000

yeah 36 mpg happens on a downhill, i averaged 22-24 mpg with alot of highway miles although i do have a very heavy foot

By: xyunya

xyunya — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 21:01:36 +0000

There is no VW in US with 20L TFSI that get 36 mpg. Even smaller Golf/Rabbit GTI with the same engine and lighter car nowhere near those numbers. My bet is it will come here: engine is certified and it is the best Audi can do to improve efficiency in US

By: A4

A4 — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 21:01:29 +0000

PLEASEEE give it to the US!