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Audi R8 slated to get twin-turbo V10 from RS6 Avant

04/01/2008, 12:39 PM

By Drew Johnson

Leftlane broke the news that Audi would be fitting its R8 supercar with a V10 powerplant earlier this month, but we now have confirmation from Volkswagen’s head of powertrain development, Wolfgang Hatz, that the R8 will indeed receive V10 power.

Moreover, Hatz says that the V10 powerplant will not be the one that Audi was reportedly developing specifically for use in the R8. Instead, the R8 will get the same twin-turbo powerplant used in the Audi RS6 Avant. In RS6 Avant guise, the 5.2L engine produces 580 horsepower and 480 lb-ft of torque.

As you may recall, Quattro GmbH director Wener Frowein revealed that the three R8 prototypes that burned to the ground last year were powered by the very same engine. But Hartz told Autocar that the overheating problem was actually solved by using a roof-mounted vent, similar to the one seen on the R8 V12 TDI concept.

It is also being reported that the V10-powered R8 will be dubbed the RS8, which leaves the RS version of the Audi A8 in limbo.

If the twin-turbo R8 has indeed received the green light and this is not just some kind of sick April Fool’s Day joke, expect the RS8 to hit the market in mid-2009.

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04/01, 12:47 PM

posted by:

Madcapp

I’d like to drive that with the twin turbo inline 6 from BMW.

04/01, 12:55 PM

posted by:

Stinky007

Makes more sporty sense than a diesel V12, and also more power!
Cool!

04/01, 12:55 PM

posted by:

mayer_ray_nagin

V10? So Audi built a Viper 15 years later, complete with a german tractor engine.

04/01, 1:07 PM

posted by:

F3INT))AP3X

Madcapp – “I’d like to drive that with the twin turbo inline 6 from BMW.”

HAHAHAHAHA!

04/01, 1:10 PM

posted by:

A4

id rather have the diesel v12 just because its so badass

04/01, 1:17 PM

posted by:

Need more oil for GM

A twin Turbo V10 sounds awesome until you realize it comes from Germany. So basically if I want to drive this car, I need to fork over my entire lifes savings just to pay for the maintainence and reliability issues that a constantly associated with this German garbage?

No thanks, a Corvette will do just as much as this piece of crap (when it IS running!) for less money and none of the headaches. Plus, I’ll be driving a car that won’t end up in the junkyard before its third anniversary.

04/01, 1:19 PM

posted by:

shaver

LLN; Where is the Max Mosley news?

04/01, 1:36 PM

posted by:

Need4SSpeed

lol I was starting to get excited when they were talking about giving the R8 a TDI V12 that was supposed to crank out like 738lbs of torque. That would have been one quick car. Glad they worked out the venting issues, Burning R8’s are not a good thing. lol Even with the RS6 Avan’ts TT V10 580hp and 480lbs of torque this should still be a fast car. Although I’m guessing with the R8’s 120k price tag the RS8 is probably going to cost over 200k???

P.S. ignore NMOFGM’s comment. Let’s not bring the “C” word into this dscussion please!!!!

04/01, 1:38 PM

posted by:

mars_Smiley

will this be made in addition to the diesel? so after this comes out, there are 3 powerplants to choose from? if so, that is amazing! for a supercar. I dont see an f430 with those options..

So in summary,

the r8 will have the option for a v8, v10, AND v12 (Diesel).. thats an astonishing accomplishment!

04/01, 1:42 PM

posted by:

mars_Smiley

nevermind my statment if the v12 is not going into production:(

04/01, 1:53 PM

posted by:

Need4SSpeed

mars_Smiley the V12 TDI was just a concept. After Audi was having issues with the twin turbo V10 that was originally supposed to be the second power plant to be put in the R8, Audi’s engineers must have figured that using a TDI V12 such as the one they use for their Le Mans prototype 1 race car, the Audi R8 TDI would be a quick fix and would make for some good PR. According to LLN now that they solved the venting issue with installing a roof mounted vent this solved the problem with the TT V10 so Audi’s going with it once again.

I highly doubt there will be a V12 TDI addition to the R8 V8 and RS8 TTV10. Although it would be cool. If the TT V10 powered RS8 could outperform a Ferrari F430 and cost (50-100k) less that would be a great accomplishment for Audi.

04/01, 1:54 PM

posted by:

Need4SSpeed

lol I just saw that after I posted it. lol Still would be cool though wouldn’t it??

04/01, 2:29 PM

posted by:

Need more oil for GM

“Let’s not bring the “C” word into this dscussion please!!!!”

You’re right I guess. The Corvette is well above any POS Audi, shouldn;t even be mentioned in the same sentence. Sorry.

04/01, 2:30 PM

posted by:

Syrax

why LLN insists on the RS8? there was never a RS8. they have the A8 W12 and the V10 S8. there’s no need for a RS8. the R8 could use the name without a problem

04/01, 3:08 PM

posted by:

BlackX

Maybe there will be RS8 version of the A8.

04/01, 5:22 PM

posted by:

Stinky007

Basically a 60deg forged iron V12 like the engine they introduced on the Q7 V12 TDI would be too heavy for a sports car. They advertised that the engine is based on the one used at LeMans, but that was a different engine entirely, being a 90deg all-aluminum V12. (facts checked on Wikipedia)

As “badass” as a diesel supercar might sound, having a 2 ton R8 is not very fun! Even with the extra 80hp from the standard version, the V12 wouldn’t have been faster, especially on a circuit, where weight is very important! More weight also means new suspension setups, bigger brakes, etc! Those cost a lot to develop…

A V10 makes a lot more sense from the fact that this engine (without the turbos) is already used in the Gallardo, so Audi already has access to Lambo’s testing so they have a much better idea on how to set up the car and all! Add this to the fact that the V10 is lighter than the V12, more compact and makes more power and you realize the V12 TDI is not that much of a big deal in the R8…

As a personal opinion I don’t think the world is yet ready for a diesel supercar!

04/01, 6:36 PM

posted by:

deutschetouring1337

It wont be coming to America.

04/01, 7:10 PM

posted by:

sunshine1810

Need more oil for GM, you obviously don’t know anything about cars. The Corvette is a great car from a first glance then after a very short of time with it, you should realize that it is absolute garbage with the rest of the American cars. The only American car that is worth looking at is the Saleen S7. This Audi may not be as fast as that but it sure is fantastic looking.

04/01, 9:28 PM

posted by:

Veda

What’s the 0-60????

04/02, 12:14 AM

posted by:

mars_Smiley

i’ll start taking american cars more seriously when they stop using leaf springs…

04/02, 1:03 AM

posted by:

Dante_JoseCuervo

I think this is a much better idea than the V12 TDI concept… but I do have to admit that if I had the $$$ I’d get an R8 and mod it for a V12TDI… :D

On topic though, the twin-turbo V10 is quite a potent powerplant from what I’ve read in reviews of the new RS6. If this makes it stateside I think audi might have a winner. Let’s see what kind of specs this things’ gonna have though. Gotta save my reservations for now.

04/02, 1:10 AM

posted by:

bigp

well now we have an fight on our hands

04/02, 2:13 AM

posted by:

BlackX

“but I do have to admit that if I had the $$$ I’d get an R8 and mod it for a V12TDI…”

Dande_JoseCuervo that must be the most stupid comment I’ve ever seen.

04/02, 4:23 AM

posted by:

much

The RS6 Turbo engine is a 5 not a 5,2 Litre like in the Gallardo 560. Its destroked to 89mm. Yesterday I heard that the 10 Zyl. R8 will get the naturally aspirated V10 from the new Gallardo with slightly less power, the V10 Turbo could follow later, and a diesel is likely but maybe not the V12 shown in the concept car. 400-450 HP and 800-900 Nm could be easily extracted from the 4,2l V8 TDI.

04/02, 9:17 AM

posted by:

Z06ified

I knew they could solve the overheating/fire problem. With all the technology available for heat management, I wasn’t buying that they gave up on it. Sounds like a simple solution too. Although I suppose you could play a mean trick on future R8 V-10 owners by plugging up the roof vent with a rag, then watch the car burn! :o

04/02, 9:19 AM

posted by:

Z06ified

sunshine – you have no idea what you’re talking about regarding the capabilities of the Corvette. A few laps in my Z06 on a high speed track and you’ll be ****ting in your pants and crying for mommy. Bring a diaper.

04/02, 9:21 AM

posted by:

Z06ified

That goes for mars_Smiley too – I’ll show you what leaf springs can do!

04/02, 9:27 AM

posted by:

E60M5

Sorry but there’s no comparing the Z06 to this Audi. I got two words for you…. “Leaf Springs” This R8 will be a ****ing beast. The current R8 with a v8 is already pretty immmense and this will be even better. I agree that the vette is a pretty good track car but i wouldnt buy one for everyday use.

04/02, 1:03 PM

posted by:

Dante_JoseCuervo

@BlackX

How is it stupid? Just because I’d have a very singular car considering audi probably won’t make an R8 with a V12 TDI? I mean I can understand that it seems quite silly to buy an R8 and then tear most of the car out just to have a big engine… but seriously… how is that stupid?

04/02, 2:08 PM

posted by:

Z06ified

“I agree that the vette is a pretty good track car but i wouldnt buy one for everyday use.”

Pretty good?? There are about a handful of production cars in the world that are equal to or better than a Z06 on the track at any price. And only ONE better than the Z06 at the same price (the new GT-R). That’s some pretty elite company, and you call THAT “pretty good”?

Oh, and BTW, the R8 isn’t one of them. With the new V-10, it likely will be, but with the V-8 it has now, its not nearly fast enough to be considered an elite track car like the Z06. Then again, by the time the V-10 R8 comes out, the new ZR-1 will be eating it for lunch already with its 620+ hp, as well as the new lightweight, more powerful versions of the GT-R.

I like the R8 a lot, but right now, the Z06 owns it on the track, and on the street. Hopefully with more power, that will change.

04/02, 2:14 PM

posted by:

Z06ified

“I agree that the vette is a pretty good track car but i wouldnt buy one for everyday use.”

Oh, and you would buy an R8 over a Vette for everyday use?? Have you even seen an R8? The Vette kills it in luggage space alone. Seriously, no one is going to be using an R8 for everyday use unless they are absurdly wealthy, and live in a very wealthy area in the south. Are you going to go grocery shopping in an R8? Park it at the movie theater? Come on.

04/02, 3:47 PM

posted by:

Need4SSpeed

lol I warned everyone from using the “C” word in this discussion… I knew it was going to happen. lol Oh well… The Corvette is more of a daily driver, take it on the track during the weekends and then back to work on Monday way more then an R8. I once saw an R8 on the free-way outside of Ann Arbor (I think it was C&D’s test vehicle) but man it sure caught my attention. Anyone in their right mind if they owned a car such as an R8 wouldn’t use it for a daily driver.

04/06, 4:04 PM

posted by:

audi-lover

good idea :)

I LOVE AUDI!!!!!!!!!!!

 
 
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