I agree with Moto-Racer, I think there will be some serious population control starting in 15 years. Maybe not government-enforced like in China, but when the world outgrows it’s supply of food and gets overrun with scum, people will think twice about bringing babies into this hellhole. Cars and mpg will be the least of our worries. I’m scared there won’t be enough farmers around to produce for the world.

Back on topic, my province alone is going to rake in over 200 million this year just by selling drilling rights. There is a lot of oil left in this planet trouble is now they have to work for it. The Jed Clampett days are far behind us.

On the subject of 75 mpg in 22 years: it will be easily achieved. And probably not by decree but by economic reality. Oil is $115/barrel and 3 months ago I was threatening this forum with $100 price when it reached $90. Let me remind that in less then 6 months price of oil went up 25%. Pundits are not predicting that pace to slow down. We just learned that Russia has trouble keeping up with supply and fulfilling signed contracts. Market (as in supply/demand) will force 35 mpg by 2015 and 50 by 2020.

“They came for my neighbor, and I said nothing.”

Whether your burning alcohol or gas, the EPA wants us to burn less of it per mile traveled.

Now cars emit literally 1/100th the emissions of cars in the ’60s; the average family car today blows the doors off the typical “performance” car of the ’70s (when 0-60 in 10 seconds was serious sports car territory); average fuel economy is much higher; yada yada. And hey, the air’s cleaner too. Amazing.

Even though the CAFE proposal is total speculation, 75mpg in a gas or diesel engined plug-in hybrid wouldn’t be impossible (there are plug-in modded Priuses that get 100 mpg now).

I’d give auto engineers some credit for stepping up to challenges like this one.

THIS IS THE DAWNING OF THE AGE OF NO CARS FOR US
THE AGE OF NO CARS FOR US————
NO CARS FOR US————!
NO . CARS . FOR . US——

Feeling guilty for your “brother,”
Taxed to death to pay for others,
Be lucky to drive a Yaris
as these bleeding heart fags scare us
in to hating life to wear us
out, no cars for US————!
NO . CARS . FOR . US——

Don’t see it coming? They already do. Look at your fuel prices, jet prices, and then economists talking about this domino effect; it’s already happening.

But you retards saying it’s because oil is running out; where do you have your heads, up your asses? Do you realize that in Alaska, NPR-A region was set aside some 80 or so years ago as an untapped oil reserve for the military? Over 10 million acres, untapped and it won’t be tapped; because congress refuses to do so. Same with “American interests” in the Gulf Coast, Congress and other green missions refuse to allow us to do so. Russia as we speak, are setting up “claims” in the Northern Region/Antarctic 14,000 feet below sea level, and so are other nations, because they understand there are vasts amount of oil deep under. Why aren’t we? American gas companies can claim there’s a shortage of gas, it gets green thinking economists pants up in a wade, and it satisfies investors.

It’s not about what we want, it’s about profits, and I’m tired of getting ripped off. Nobodies saying we shouldn’t have cars that do 150 miles to the gallon because their “clinging to the past”; I’m really tired of that sad old excuse too for a lack of intelligence.

Technology is there for vehicles that can get 60 miles to the gallon on the market today; GM, Chrysler and Ford have all done it with mid size, good looking vehicles with predicted prices around $30k. There are cars that you can build that will get 100 miles to the gallon; I’ve actually been considering trying it out myself, one grand and some plans. Global warming is BS; but that doesn’t stop me from considering other things, like solar panels and growing some of my own food, which I already do. Pretty simple and easy, and best of all I’m not funding some bull**** company.