July21
The Bugatti Veyron may no longer be the world’s fastest car. Today — following a number of teasers and leaks — Barabus officially unveiled the TKR: a new 1005 horsepower supercar the automaker says is capable of doing zero to 60 mph in 1.67 seconds. What’s more, the car reportedly has a top speed of 270 mph — nearly 20 more than the Veyron. Power comes from a 6.0 liter V8 twin-turbocharged with dual intercoolers. The car has a full carbon fibre body and chassis. Further details remain sparse, but the automaker says it will sell the car for £360,000, which should translate to around $500,000, using typical automotive market conversion rates.
It’s worth noting that Barabus sometimes refers to the car as being able to hit 60 mph in “under 2 seconds,” rather than the stated 1.67. Even so, there is still some doubt among enthusiasts if such a figure is even possible. Nonetheless, the car is on display at the 2006 British International Motor Show, and we expect to get more details in the near future. The TKR is said to have been in development for the last 10 years. The car is to be made in Italy and the power plant is built in the United Kingdom. Worldwide volume is projected to be 300-400 cars over the estimated three-year production run.
Barabus has not responded to Leftlane requests for more detailed specifications.
(Note: we apologize for the low-resolution images — Barabus has been very slow to release press material for the car).
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it looks like the exterior wasnt desing in the later part of the devlopment processes. its a good looking car but it looks dated. very impressive 0-60!
Thanks to JohnnyBlazE for the Tip
Hmm… Kit-car Veyron, anyone?
It’s a Saleen S7 rip off. I really don’t believe Barabus claim of 0-60 in 1.67sec. That sounds just as inflated as his horsepower and top spped claims. I want to see someone test drive it because I doubt it will put up numbers like the Veyron.
Er, £360,000 works out to be a little over $668,000 at current exchange rates. Fix your calculator!
Where’s the proof?
the only thing i believe in this message is that this is a very ugly car. i don’t like the veyron, but this looks more amateuristic than all those MR2 kitcars together
ok…now bugatti obviously is making another car to top this “barabus” tkr thing. is it even possible to take off to 0-60 in 1.67 seconds?
Yes this car definately has a built in my own home appearance. No where near the Bugatti level of fit or finish. This car definately looks as though it took 10 yrs to design with the body design locked in around the same time.
The Bugatti is a techno tour de force, and quite the accomplishment. Still a better car.
I could deal with the “slower” Bugatti for a while longer than this car.
I would like to kick him in the nuts ! What a total Saleen Rip off ! and the rear is a Pagani Zonda!!!!! I am going to burn his ugly house down for this !! GRRRRR !!!!
UGLY
How come there is no information online that i can find about this car in english? How come there is no claims of torque, cylinders, turbos, superchargers, or hell car weight on this LLN post? Sure details are “sparse” according to manufacture thats because this is a f’n joke! Get the facts straight before you report the news LLN, this sounds like a bad Anchor Man news story!
World’s fastest car yet they can’t afford a decent digital camera? Somebody order one to get these boys some funds!
e30e: you mean a Dan Rather story.
Wow I have seen spy shot photos of cars that were better then that. I also agree that it looks like a Salleen such a rip off.
Im not sure about this one. It seems to me that if a company bulit the worlds fastest car that they would have some better pics of it. Im also puzzled by the lack of info about the car’s engine and drivetrain. What type of engine does it have? V-10? V-12? supercharged? turbo? on top of that the sub 2 second 0-60 claim seems a little far fetched to me as well. Overall this car seems more like a one off kit car rather then a Veyron beater..
0-60 under2 sec?? mph orkm??they don’t say!
tested at a rail crossing??
why does that guy have his a** stuck in the window?
moneys tight= no design studio!
#8,
it is posible to go from 0-60 in under 2 seconds…
for professional drag cars that is…im not going to believe anything they say until i see the proof.
*i do believe that its ugly..no proof needed for that*
As you’ll see many people are skeptical here http://digg.com/hardware/World_s_fastest_car_0-60_in_1.67_seconds_270_mph_top_speed
Thoughts?
digger = spammer?
Mike: I doubt it. Digg is how I found this site a few months ago. It’s a very popular site that gives links out to other sites. If anything it helps LLN by bringing new readers over, which I assume is a good thing™
it’s the spitting image of the saleen s7
I seriously doubt that body could get to 270 mph going off a cliff. It probably gets airborne at 220.
1.67 seconds is ridiculous. I dont know if this wikipedia entry is accurate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formula_One_cars) but it says that F1 cars take two seconds to get to 60, and they definately have the technology edge over this Barabus.
I think the front is a K-1 Attack rip and the rear is a Zonda rip. But the design isn’t so much of an issue considering it was built specifically for ungodly speed.
“The 2006 F1 cars have a power-to-weight ratio of 1250 hp/tonne (930 W/kg). Theoretically this would allow the car to reach 100 km/h in less than 1 second. However the massive power cannot be converted to motion at low speeds due to traction loss, and the usual figure is 2 seconds to reach 100 km/h.”
So what if the car has AWD?
the front doesnt look like a K1… Saleen S7 maybe, but a K1 its not
Is it just me, or does the engine shot look like a small block chevy? Pre-LS series, that is…makes it seem even more kit-carish. Any bets on it using a Porsche G50 transaxle?
TVR + S7 + Zonda + lotus headlights = pretty ugly. F1 cars do have the technology, but they also have lots of rules to follow. if F1 used 4wd, 1.5 seconds or less wouldn’t seem too crazy.
it seems weird that this car would be in development for 10 years without anyone hearing about it until now whereas the veyron has been bragging about numbers since before it was even sketched.
“So what if the car has AWD?”
Then you are adding massive ammounts of weight and many more parts to build up to the spec of 1000hp.
not gonna happen @ $500k
AWD = massive amounts of weight? Massive amounts of exaggeration.
“says the car is capable of doing zero to 60 mph in 1.67 seconds.”
Capable of.
They are not in any way stating it has DONE it or actually WILL be able to do it.
Capable of.
“Massive amounts of exaggeration”
Please provide the weight of materials capable of handeling 1000hp (and not even God knows how much ft-lbs)for the following components:
1)Transfer case
2)additional driveshaft
3)additional differential
4)additional halfshafts/axles
5)additional hubs/stub shafts
not to mention the increased complexity of wiring and computer controls, unless it is a purely mechanical system which would be useless and unsafe at 270mph.
Well… it’s fast, but not impressive at all. Would I pay $500.000 for this car if I could afford? Of-course not! Look at the grills and wheels. Looks like a pimped car at a local LA garage:-)
I agree, the car looks amateurish. Definitely looks like a kit car. Unless the manufacturer submits the actual tests, the car will still be considered a rude gatecrasher to the supercar market. Keep it real, which car would you be rather in travelling at 250plus mph?LoL!
This car is a joke. Show me a dyno chart. Why is the company not providing details? World’s fastest car, you’d think they’d have a press kit properly put together. For $668K I’ll take an SLR and an F430.
Gheyness!
All that work and a ….. distributor?
am I seeing things or is that a TBI setup?
This screams kit car.
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#4: kiss your precious Veyron goodbye, ’cause it’s been 0wned now!
Go cry to daddy, and not here.
1c3d0g:
interior appointments, build quality, fit and finnish, precision engineering, tried and tested, bhp vs net hp, etc.
The veyron is an engineering marvel, and isn’t outdone by this low-tech kit car.
The 0-60mph is insane and if it’s really capable of 270mph this thing will make people forget the Veyron and for half the price and probably half the weight! The exterior design isn’t original but it’s not ugly. It prove one thing, if you keep pushing forward to your goal you can do anything, Barabus didn’t made anything before and it certainly doesn’t have the budget of VW but they beat them!
Err, that’s no Saleen rip off, that IS a Saleen.
No doubt about it at all.
This story must be utter tosh.
SliK, I have a motorcycle that has the potential to do 0-60 in .6 seconds and has a potential top speed of 475mph that I want to sell you… that is, if you actually believe the claims this guy is making. I also own a bridge in Brooklyn and some oceanfront property in Arizona, also for sale.
where has it been tested? spy photos? does it meet regulations and certifications? crash tests? Engine certification tests? who are the suppliers? Who are the dealers? Who are the investors?
This is nothing more than a kit car, and you bought the facade hook line and sinker.
ps, look at the photo of the engine. TBI and a distributor. Yes, this kit car is the pinacle of technology….
The car looks okay. The reason why you associate it with a kit car is cause of the rims. If they change those rims to something more classier looking, the whole look of the car will be vastly improved.
As it is, I love kit cars. I’ll take one, please.
this is disgusting. bugatti and vw work there buts of to create a car which is the best in its class and possibly the best car anyone could buy. and this guy thinks he could come along with no originality and try and beat them. GOD I WANT TO KILL THIS GUY. if these two cars were at stop lights and about to do a drag race. say this abomination of a car does beat the veyron in 0-60 time and top speed. the person in the veyron will be laughin his head off beccause that person knows that numbers arnt everything. god please stop this evil. barabus has bus in the name for god sakes.
I’m going to laugh at all you haters when/if this car DOES do 270mph.
im going to laugh at your mom
I doubt this is the world’s fastest car. The engine looks very outdated. It still has cast iron exhaust manifolds for this “custom” turbo setup, a distributor and even a carburetor. Although it may be fast, it will not top the Veyron.
Aaron
I just don’t see an old push rod motor being able to deliver 1000 reliable, streetable twin turbocharged horsepower.
the “designer” of this vehicle shoud be questioned. as mentioned by several others, the car is so similar to the S7 that it might butt up agaist some serious opposition by saleen. the S7 is a stunning car to behold, this car is worse then a cheap kit car knock off. tisk tisk on these “designers”. additionally, i don’t think that the performance on this car will be as grand as is stated. the veyron, and the S7 after which is is so tastelessly hacked, onderwent countless hours in the windtunnel to be able to achieve their 200mph+ speeds. this car, though it resembles the S7, doesn’t appear to have such extensive attention to air movement. perhaps the general shape is ok, but the vents in the side, etc. look filled in and like an after thought. going over 200 is a serioous issue, it can’t be done with power alone. areo is key, and i don’t think this car has it. finally, the powerplant looks like it was assembled in a barn. i’m not entirely sure from the looks of it that it would develop enough power to make it up to the 200+ range. sorry for being so long winded, but this car is a joke on many levels.
where does the insanity end?? this has to stop already, rediculous. Ferrari didnt do it, Mclaren f1 didnt do it, porsche didnt do it, mercedes didnt do it, Honda f1 didnt do it (in Bonneville no less). Does any more need to be said? is it to be believed that Brabus with limited technolgy, resources, engineering has done it? For half of what Bugatti cant even do it for?? give it a rest, get real, stop the crap already, its enough!! f-in joke.
No to mention…pointless. Where are you going to drive it?
“Where are you going to drive it?”
to the local off-road shop to pick up the Chevy 350 throttle body spacer.
I hear that’ll add another 200hp.
BTW Top speed record for F1 cars is less than 230mph, so whoever is using F1 cars to compare performance is chatting ****e… yes they are geared for acceleration but the traction comment is very valid here.
Also, if Pat Doran’s Ford RS200 EVO (a 1985 4×4 British car with modern mods) can do 0-60 in 1.8 seconds and is a humble twin turboed 2.18 litre BDT, I’m sure a 6 litre v8 twinned can push less than 2 seconds also. Hell, his Fiesta does 0-60 in 1.9 seconds and it’s a 2 litre turbo… Granted its track-specced, but I’m sure the Veyron’s sprint time isn’t as unbelievable to beat as you make out… It’s the technological glory it is that will be a hard thing to beat…
How fast is too fast? Perhaps the speed at which all the gasoline in the world is used up?
-he who stacks pork
anonymous -
you are clueless. Go look and see the top speed the honda f1 achieved at bonneville, and thats geared for top speed to set a new land speed record.
99% of the worlds population couldnt drive an f1 car at 8/10ths, yet you want the average schmuck with an expendable half mil to be able to buy this death trap? more people would get killed in this POS than in total in the history of indy, f1 and nascar. Smarten up!
ok, assume that it has the power:weight and traction, this is still a matter of gearing!
tall enough to get to 60 in 1st gear, short enough to do so that quickly?
short enough to do so that quickly, but tall enough to reach 270mph?
this spikes the bul**** meter….TO ELEVEN!!!!!!
Eleventy, indeed
Number 30 I agree. That does indeed look like a small block Chevy. In fact the entire setup looks a lot like the recently re-released Gale Banks twin turbo setup! Power plant built in the UK my @ss! Take a look at the hat on top of the throttle body compared to the hat on the Gale Banks unit. That design is a signature Banks design.
http://www.galebanks.com/twin-turbo-products.cfm
Number 53. You obviously haven’t noticed the engine in the Ultima GTR (record holder for 0-100-0). That 350 based Chevy engine puts out almost 700 normally aspirated horsepower & it’s carburated! Those push rod engines have had so many revisions over time that they are remarkably reliable no matter how much horsepower they produce. It’s all in the quality of parts you use to built it.
claims are claims… obviously, but i think everyone forgets that it wasnt until a few short months ago that anyone could give official performance numbers to the veyron. but for years its been touted as the 250mph car… yet no single top speed run had been done. be skeptical, it’s a healthy characteristic (to bad isnt applied to peoples thoughts on our republican friends/traitors) but give it a chance at least? just stick with the “under 2 seconds” statement versus the 1.6sec… it feels more believable, and i highly doubt a company would stake a 600k cars future sales on a lie.. i’m sure they’ve done a little more testing than you have sitting at ur computer and just thinking about it.
think -
you have LLN confused with a Porn site! youre sitting at your computer doing more than just thinking about it. The claims are nonswnse, its not going to happen anytime soon that this car will do anything close to 270 for under a half mil.
Think!:
1) “to bad isnt applied to peoples thoughts on our republican friends/traitors” great insight :rollingeyes: are you always so short sighted and transparent or just when it comes to actually looking at facts?
2) “i’m sure they’ve done a little more testing”
so THAT explains the test mules…the spy photos…the patents…wait. There are no patents filed for any part on this vehicle. There are no spy photos of this vehicle in testing. There have been no test mules to our knowledge, and if there have been, they are testing at hidden tracks in hidden locations draped in stealth.
They are making claims to performance that they have never tested, nor has any part of this vehicle been certified by any government.
THAT is why we are calling it a kit car, and THAT is why we are sceptical about ANY claims.
So let’s say it is a kit car, and that it’ll never see production, and that it ripps off others styling, and there’s no way it is nearly as impressive as a Veyron. So what. Even at 0-60 in 3.5 seconds and topping at 200mph is an impressive feat. Especially considering that they didn’t have any test mules to play with and tweak, and since they didn’t have copius access to a wind tunnel or dyno, and because R&D is basically non-existant. It’s like a guy built a car in his garage that’s really really fast. And isn’t that kinda sweet in and of it’s self. Compairing this to the Veyron is like saying “Dude that Timex keeps perfect time. Therefore, it is far superior to the Hublot Big Bang (http://www.hublotforum.com/BigBangModels3.jpg)” …You know what…I forgot where I was going with this…but isn’t that watch tight. I’m down with Hublot.
@53 —
You need to do some research into the engines used in top fuel dragsters that do 300MPH 1/4 miles in under 4 seconds. I believe that they are a “old push rod motor”
The car looks photoshoped to me
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Loving the Veyron fanboy comments here! Cheered me up no end.
I like it how the Veyron dribblers can call that ugly. The Veyron is much more uglier than that!
The Lingenfelter 427 twin turbo c5 corvette had a 0 to 60 time of 1.97 seconds, and that was tested and verified by motor trend. They described the acceleration as feeling “like getting rear ended by a cement truck”.
Moral of the story…do your homework before you talk sh%t.
To all you haters of this car - Get over it. The british kicked everyones ass with the concorde and Mclaren F1 when no one thought they could and will do it again with this
Looks fake to me, to be honest. A news like this doensn’t appear in an unformal article like this. And the shape of that car seems to similar to other cars out there, I think it’s photoshoped too.
I must admit I’m a bit unsure too. It’ll be great if its real though. If only to piss off all these Veyron fanboys.
I’d rather have a Carrera GT over a Veyron anyway…
whats with the fuel lines plumbed into the top of the turbo units?
Number 78. I think it is just hard line for the oil to the turbos for lubrication. The hard lines to the wastegates are probably for a boost controller since they need a “signal”.
Brabus took an E-Class Benz & a CLS-Class, stuffed AMG’s twin turbo V12 into them, boosted up the horsepower to well above 700 and were able to get both of them decently into the 200mph club. These achivements are freakin’ awesome considering those Benzes are porty 4 door luxury sedans. Now imagine a more potent power plant plus a purpose built chassis & body (read light weight, race car like suspension, etc.) I really wouldn’t be surprised if they did reach the 270 claimed top speed.
You guys need to read the last part of my post. I mean I don’t expect reading comprehension to be that great here but still I do expect something.
I said, ”
I just don’t see an old push rod motor being able to deliver 1000 reliable, streetable twin turbocharged horsepower.” Emphasis on the reliable, streetable twin turbocharged horsepower. Sure top fuel cars make an unknown but probably over 6000 horsepower but they are rebuilt after every race. They only have to run for a few minutes at a time and only have to run at full throttle for less then 5 seconds. There is a big differance between a 1000 streetable horsepower and 1000 race horsepower.
That is just a Lotus Elise with a big engine, the 4-sec electric version is here http://www.teslamotors.com
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The guy has photoshoped himself with the car. Look at the picture were he’s sticking his ass in the window, look unnatural, but look at his feet casting shadows and you’ll know for sure that he ain’t real. Loser!
Mike: yep, all that’s true, but it’s the way they (Bugatti) achieves it that pisses me off. Quad turbos? Come on…they should hit 300+ MPH with that. 10 radiators? Don’t get me started. They might as well sell it as “the fastest and most expensive lawnsprinkler available”. Besides, I can achieve 250+ MPH too at a quarter of the price…even if I had the money, I wouldn’t waste it on a Bugatti. There are other, *much* better things to spend money on, IMHO.
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The Cobalt SS would kill them all!
[...] Barabus TKR takes over as world’s fastest car | Leftlane - Car News For Enthusiasts “The Bugatti Veyron may no longer be the world’s fastest car. Today — following a number of teasers and leaks — Barabus officially unveiled the TKR: a new 1005 horsepower supercar the automaker says is capable of doing zero to 60 mph in 1.67 seconds. What’s more, the car reportedly has a top speed of 270 mph ” 1000hp. Friggin ridiculous. 0 votes | [...]
the entertainment continues…. 90% of LLN readers comment on photoshop cars in other posts as if they are the real thing, but then when they see a real photograph such as the ones on this post they call it photoshoped… so effin funny. Then some guy talks about brabus’ performance history? does this car have anything to do with brabus? nope! then 60% of the comments on this post are about how an under 2 second 0-60 time is somehow impossible yet it’s been done many times by many cars of all spectrums. then some moron brings up F1… as if F1 can be compared to any other form of motorsport in the world… btw, juan pablo nascar montoya went 232 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/07/18/land-speed-record-set-for-f1-car/ read it yourself… and if you say that doesnt count cause it wasnt at an official regulated top speed event then your rationalization process stopped develeping at 5yrs old. but as long as some moron brought up bonneville, 300mph is achieved quite liberally by many segments of vehicles… so why cant some guy start a car company and just try to go 270? Bugatti history led it down the path it’s at now… being the most technologically advanced car on the planet was the goal, do you really think they had the intention of holding the fastest car title forever? honestly they dont care about the title that much, get over it, it’s a business with a product, sales are whats important. they car needs 10 radiators and reduntant systems to give it a chance to be still usuable in 15years instead of burnt out as something like the car pictured about would be.
everyone calm down. Any nutjob with big money can put a twin-turbo chevy in a tube frame and get someone to build him a glassfiber/carbonfiber body. chill. The only difference between this guy and a lucky bastard building an ultima is he’s gone the full custom carbon route
It’s funny how all these picture dribbling Veyron fanboys are so keen to prove that this won’t be anywhere near as good as their precious Volkswagan, er, I mean Bugatti. Some here have even denied its existance!
I don’t really hate the Veyron, I just can’t stand people going on about how it’s the greatest car in the world. Come on, the thing weighs almost 2 tonnes. Too heavy for a supercar and it’ll mean it doesn’t handle well, no matter what Clarkson tries to say. And the majority of Veyrons will spend their lives under sheets or on display, rarely to be driven nevermind past 250mph. I think if I had one, once the novelty of being able to go fast in a straight line wore off, I’d get bored with it and wouldn’t take it out just for the hell of it.
People are saying nothing like the Veyron will ever be achieved again. How do we know? Who can predict the future? 1000hp will only get easier to achieve in a road car.
This Barabus TKR is proof that Volkswagan aren’t the only ones who can produce a 1000hp road car. Hopefully people will accept that.
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i think you need to get better facts before posting on LLN. a merchielago ways nearley two tonnes and yet we call that a supercar. if not one of the most seryotypical supercars on sale today. the mercielago handles briliantly and the same with the veyron. and it is the greatest car ever made. it’s the fastest out now. its got the coolest engine. its got the best interior ever and it looks beter than that crappy TKR. and how dare you mock Jezza. o remember you are buying £5,000,000 worth of car for only £800,000. thats a rich mans bargain.
/\Oh, well, excuse me after your involving test drives of the Murcielago and Veyron.
Another sad person taking Jeremy Clarkson too seriously. Tragic, really.
Best interior? Well yes, it’s good but what do you expect in a £911,000 car? (Volkswagan has raised the price if you care to look.) I say the DB9’s is prettier.
Coolest engine? I have no idea what you mean by that since I’m not 15 anymore. Do you mean it’s the most powerful engine you can get? The biggest? Has the most cylinders?
And it costs £5,000,000 to make because Volkswagan had such an inflated budget and have never done anything like it before. Getting brand new components from so many different places and having completely new gearboxes invented isn’t cheap. £911,000 is still a bit much to ask for something that can only really go fast in a straight line.
The Veyron has little soul which is a key component to any supercar.
although this car is fast, the fastest car i’ve ever heard of and seen is the hallech corvette that can reach 275mph, and 0-60 in 1.04 seconds. true it isnt alld one by chevy, but it is a package u can get for around 100grand more., which is still a few hundred thousand cheaper thatn this car, which is most likely junk because its in its first years of production.
i am guessing , that people who hate the Veyron, can not afford it, i prefer the Mc F1 ( simple design) but you must be mad not to admit, that the veyron is a stunning car
people who say that the Veyron is TOO dear, you have NO IDEA what Ettore Bugatti , wanted out of his cars, he used to call Bentley, as The world’s fastest trucks,,
a mate of mine has seen a old bugatti, which a one piece dash, in alloy, made in the 50’s
anyway the TKR looks like a school boys drawing, and probaly has the specs to match
actually i am still 12 years old. how old are you kalvaza. imagine telling friands youve got two v8’s in one car and 4 turbos!
dustin G?
In reply to post 97, I rest my case.
What does a 12 year old boy with a poster of a Veyron in his bedroom know about the handling characteristics of it or even a Murcielago? Another dilusional fanboy. When I first saw the Veyron in real life its presence was ruined by kids with cr*p camera phones.
May I add this isn’t a real Bugatti. Volkswagan has just used the dead yet exotic name because they couldn’t put a VW badge on the front. It would’ve just been another W12 Concept disaster.
The Veyron has presence, but it is ugly. The worst part is the front bonnet that looks as if it isn’t closed properly.
This TKR looks as if it’s glues designs from Pagani, Ascari, Saleen and Lotus together and shoved a big engine in it but normally people would love stuff like that. It’s problem is that it’s targeted the Veyron and the fanboys (oh, I’m using that word a lot) aren’t happy. A lot of posts have claimed that it’s just a photoshopped image, claimed the figures are made up, claimed that it will never get past 200mph, claimed that it will never be street legal and claimed that it doesn’t (and will never) exist.
I bet if this didn’t boast about taking over the Veyron as the fastest car, people will be drooling over it.
hey
kalvaza i agree with about VW needing a “name” for it, i am not a great fan of the Bug,
but i think, that EB would of like the speed and price of a car named after him, but no worris
i am hoping Mclaren maybe one day will bring a F1 mk2, even if its a, badged merc
( you on about my post (97, 98?)
enjoy
funny thing, i drive a saxo
/\Whoops, sorry, not your post. The one after it. 98. Looking at the wrong number.
I’ll Blow away the Barabus double turbo-charged piece crap with my Ford Taurus in 0-60. While he might do 0-60 in 1.67 seconds I’ll do it in an instant. I have warp factor drives strapped on my Ford Taurus and I will do at least One Light Year’s distance VS the 120 ft he’ll cover in 1.67..just getting to ONLY 60MPH.
And you know 60 MPH really isn’t that fast. heck if a Cheetah can do 70 MPH that’s nothing.
Fake! Where do you get your Information? There is a turbocharged SBC on the picture. Take care of your announcement.
looks photoshoped
Love the car, why don’t people think you can make 1000 streetable HP on a “old” pushrod V8 engine? you are oviouly not a car enthusist, becasue their are tons of them. You need to get with the times, ever since us domestic guys figured out FI and turbos streetable 4 digit HP hasent been that tough.
But all in all you just have to give respect to a production car that uses AN fittings.
im not dilusional. im just basing my facts of people who have actually driven the cars. like hammond in the merchielago he said it really “eats up the corners”. the merchi did beat a koeniggsneg and pagani on lap times (top gear test track). and an article in auto car saying that the veyron “can really handle”. again people who have “actually” driven the cars. both of these cars are heavy but still corner well.
No. 81. Didn’t you click the link to the Gale Banks site? There is a full explaination on how those “pushrod” motors can make that amount of hp and be reliable. But to answer your question can a pushrod motor make 1000 hp and be reliable?… Yes. Theoretically it is building a normally aspirated engine to product 500hp @ 14.7 atmospheres (sea level). Then add your turbo(s) and set them to add another 14.7 lbs of boost to the engine & there you have it, a 1000hp pushrod engine that is both very streetable & reliable.
[...] La Bugatti Veyron non è più la macchina più veloce del mondo. Secondo quanto riportato qui, il primato ora spetta alla Barabus TKR: da 0 a 100 in 1,67 secondi, velocità massima di 435 Km/h e una potenza di 1005 cavalli. [...]
#107 does it suck to say something that you think proves your point to only realize that it not only makes your point invalid, but then does the opposite and proves that your point is incorrect? The only Konig that a merci beat on top gear was the one that spun off the track other wise the Konig has the top time and the Zonda F is like second or third…. the murci is quite a ways down the list, get your **** straight.
There are several reasons as to why this car is not as fast as the Veyron. I will list the one factor that GUARANTEES it is not as fast.
The Veyron is electronically limited to 255mph. It is projected to be able to go significantly faster, but it is purposly restricted. Why you ask? Because when the Veyron was in devolepment, Bugatti had to also commission the devolepment of a special street-legal tire that could handle the weight and heat of a car that achives those kind of speeds. The highest speed they could reach, before the tires would explode, was 257mph.
So, unless this guy also had one-of-a-kind tires made for his car, it would never reach 270mph. This is proof without even mentioning all of the other factors that lead to the Veyrons ability to reach high speeds.
‘Nuff said.
Think!. YOU ARE A LOUSY BUM!!!!! im talkin about the zonda C12 s not the zonda F. and the original koenigsnegg not the ccx. i feel sorry for you man.
Do we know if this is any lighter than the Veyron? I’m no expert (and I don’t think most people here are) but I think it can get tyres that will withstand speeds up to 270mph without inventing a new compound if it’s lighter than the Veyron.
Oh, and in reply to 113: Please, the best thing you can do now is be quiet.
You base your opinions off Top Gear. A hard fact for you here - Top Gear is mostly staged. They all talk rubbish. The show is hardly about cars anymore. They seem to have one or two very vague tests and then go off on a Clarkson ego trip.
Try to get some facts straight and try to put together a founded argument. Don’t just come out with “LOUSY BUM!!!!111one11″ because it doesn’t make you look clever.
well panda, both the CCX and Zonda F trump the LM640… so i guess all three cars pushed to their max, the murci still loses, and i mean street legal production max… dont waste ur fingers skin cells typing about the murci gt-r… go rub one out on ur veyron desktop picture, it’s a better use.
So then the only way it could reach speeds of 270mph is if it were riding on Veyron tyres, the best produced street legal tyres in the world. And since it isn’t, it causes me to question the plausability.
But who can really say which weighs more at that speed. The Veyron is designed to adapt it’s wind resistance and downforce, while in “Top Speed Mode,” to lighten it’s self. This car doesn’t appear to have adaptive aerodynamics, and by design, would get heavier the faster it goes. I don’t know the answer, I’m just throwing it out there.
Well, we don’t really know if this has adaptive aerodynamics (athough it does look very unlikely).
I think we should give this a chance to prove the stated figures. I don’t find it fair that a lot of the Veyron fanboys just dismiss it and say “nope, never going to happen”. People here are also assuming things about it to try and prove their points. The figures do look optimistic but lets see how it gets on before we rip it apart.
the car looks like west coast customs took a saleen s7 with hopes of making it look cool, and ended up sitting with their thumbs up their asses, and gave the car back with only a paint job. -ben dover
this car looks like a volkswagen beetle and a saleen s7 enjoyed a hot night together, and ended up with this in the morning. -mike ock
#118… i think it’s the majority opinion that this thing is ugly.. obviously no originality involved. But kalvaza makes a point i think i stated in like # 30 or whatever, give it a chance? It’s funny that while about 0% of the people who comment on this forum including myself can afford a veyron, you still get so insecure (it’s obvious) at some POS like this car trumping your precious volkswagen. McLaren F1 boys had the same insecurities, and while they’re precious car stayed on top for a long time, the veyron will see it’s day soon enough. The saddest part of it all, you’re little insecurities are meaningless considering that the people at volkswag… i mean bugatti don’t really give a #@%@# about keeping the top speed record, they were just happy to do it. GET OVER IT, IT”S UGLY YES, IT’s UNISPIRING YES, DOESNT MEAN IT CANNOT BE FAST.
It’s fast. Yes. But the fastest? Probably not.
will you people just give me a break. and i dont think the merchi is pushed to the max. the car is barely made of carbon fibre and costs much less than the other two. and if you didnt read my last posts i said that i got my facts from top gear and other articles from magazines and if thats not good enough evidence maybe i should buy the dam cars and run your ass down.
If I got ran over by a Lambo…I would die a happy man.
#121, as I say, Top Gear isn’t a good plce to get facts from. It’s a watered down motoring-related show that only has vague reviews and Clarkson making an idiot of himself. Good entertainment but nothing to do with facts about cars.
And please, a 12 year old going on about buying exotic cars to prove an irrelevant point is just a bit sad…
Any one notice a distributer on the engine picture? Can someone tell me why on such an engine as this they would do that?
Not really sure of what to say about all of this, i would belive the “facts” mentioned when i see a test run.
I know that the new car that bugatti is going to be going round the world in would kick butt, and as i have heard even that cant do a 1. anything seconds.
Oh well let them have some fun beliving what they say till a solid proof proves other wise.
It’s a TOTAL rip of the saleen S7!!!!!!!! >=(
Yes, thank you, we’ve established that it has similar designs from other supercars, that doesn’t mean it can’t beat the Veyron.
…wasn’t the Saleen S7 a big flop anyway?
to 65 and 72. That engine is most likely the banks engine you were talkin about in 30 and then 65. to 72, the image w/ the guy sittin on the car is completely fake. just look at the shadowing. the man and the trees all have their shadows almost directly left of their bodies, however the car has a shadow in front of it. its clear to see if you use some common sence that the picture is a fake, and id say this car is a fraud.
It’s real, I’m afraid. The shadowing in that picture looks fine to me.
It debuted at the British Motor Show. Search the internet for some pictures, I can’t seem to be able to post a URL.
ive never even heard of barabus until now and do nt think a bsidemarket car company can come up with enough money to produce a car this scary fast and besides 270 mph out of a v8 twin turbo charged engine even with 1005 horses is just obsurd. =8(I)
the car isnt fake beacuse i saw it at the british motorshow on wednesday. the man in the picture was there too. its such an ugly car from behind.
wow!!!!!!!!is that realy the fastest car in the world?
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That. Is. Crap. If that car can have a zero to sixty time like that, and more hp than the Veyron, they’d be charging more than that. And all out ot the blue, too.
/\ And where’s your logic in that?
The reason it looks like a kit car is because it was hand built from scratch by an handfull of Englishmen with no fancy design studio/reasearch budget! If the performance figures are true, lets face it, they could be, then this car is verry impressive.
Ignore the above comment “built by englishmen” part!
I am afraid to also say it is real, having sean the one at the motorshow, even though that wasnt an actual car it was just a chasi made from alluminium with no engine,and after talking to the guy he said the real 1 will hav a full carbon fibre body, and funnily enough he was not alloud to tell me if it was faster then the veyron as the figures arnt official yet
just out of curiosity does anyone know why when i search google the only info i can find on this car is from blogs, and barabus’s most informative website (sarcasm)
seriously if this was capable of doing what speeds they reckon it can then why is it only bloggers and themselves that are concerned about telling people about it??
plus it looks suspiciously like a saleen s7 with a new rear slapped on
I know it hard to believe, i was very sceptical at first, and as a matter of fact, still am. It just doesnt seem possible to go 0-60 in 1.67 sec. But im going to go with the claim. If they made a car that fast kudos to them. All of you guys are getting so defensive of the Buggatti. Even if the bugatti is faster, its almost double the price.
thats impossible cause i own a brand the 2006 new dodge viper 1000,and i have 200 shot of nos in it, and the best zero to 60 in could do is 2.5 and thats 1100 horse power. so i would gadly race it one on one and prove that viper has no equal. so if they think that car is fast i would love to see they beat 260 mph.
/\ Hehe!
“The claims are totally wrong because I own a remapped Porsche Carrera GT with NOS **** from Fast And The Furious that does 0-60 in 0.03 seconds. Despite this I type in lower case on some forum full of fanboys instead of driving the thing.”
Porsche Carrera GT….LOL A lot of people think Porsche is fast, but guess what buddy. Not anymore. I think it’s funny how people spend TONS of money on these top dollar cars. Such as Porsche, Lamborghini, Ferrari, and any other top name cars like the Veyron. You THROW AWAY ALL your $ money $ and someone smart is going to buy some hooked up Viper or Vette and wax that @$$! lol The Hennessey and Lingenfelters will look upon your corpse and smile
Spending half or a third of what you spent on your piece of junk. And 0 to 60 in .03 secs…maybe in your wet dreams. Here’s two words “AMERICAN MUSCLE” You just can’t mess with it! In my opinion the best car of all time is a Black 2006 Hennessey SRT-10 Viper Venom 1000 TT Coupe. Trust me this snake is highly venomous! You won’t taste the finish line…you’ll taste it’s dust! How’s that dust taste?! lol
Forget the Dodge Viper Venom. I know that Bugatti is making a gigantic comeback. In case you don’t know, Bugatti is making a Gran Tourismo version of the car: The Bugatti Veyron GT. It has 1,232 to 1,250 horsepower. Brabus might have a little advantage against 0-60 time by 1.67(If Brabus is telling the truth) and it goes 270mph, But the Bugatti GT goes 272mph, and still can go from 0-60 in under 2.5 seconds. And even porsche is making a GT1 that has has 950hp and goes 254mph. And the Viper Venom has a a 1,100 horsepower cousin. And the Linginfeilter Corvette as well. I think Brabus is in big trouble.
I almost forgot, Audi has an eletric car that got 280mph. It is called the Audi R-Zero. All of the info I have been telling you is true. If you don’t beleive me, look it up
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i dont care that it looks like a saleen, saleens look sweet, i seriously doubt that anyone would lie about car facts however the car isnt made yet, so how do they know these things? if the facts are right, this will be a breakthrough. cant wait to see it on the streets.
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[...] The Bugatti Veyron is no longer the world’s fastest car. Today, a new automaker called Barabus unveiled a car with 1005 horsepower, a ridiculous 0-60 time of 1.67 seconds, and a top speed of 270 mph. Even better, it will be sold for under $500,000 — much less than the Bugatti’s $1.3 milread more | digg story [...]
In reply to Frank Grant a few posts up there, “American muscle” is only good in a straight line. ANYTHING else and it’s awful. The car you mentioned that you have a poster of on your bedroom wall would probably hide behind a tree if it saw a track.
It’s not as if these plastic sports cars are Ferrari Enzos for a fraction of the price. To quote a phrase that you’ll understand:
Get real.
The TKR has nothing on the Bugatti Veyron GT. NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
well i think that the 0-60 is a bit far fetched
but it could get to 270 in a while
plus the veyron is LIMITED to go 254mph so it would still beat this peice
of **** and i still am rooting for the bugatti
a bugatti unlimited will go almost 300, i know, i work for a tuner company, and we had a guy bring in his veyron and got the limiter off, on the dyno it read 298MPH before it blew the tires.
The problem with the car isn’t getting to 270MPH, or getting from 0-60 in under 2 seconds. Gordon Murray, designer of the McLaren F1, stated in a Car magazine interview that the F1 would beat the Veyron’s top speed with little more than “a simple turbo job”.
Meanwhile, everybody forgets about the cornering of this car. Based on the design, I can’t see many aerodynamic aids, so while it might get to 270MPH, I wouldn’t want to take a corner in it. If the Stig can lose control in a Koeniggsegg nowhere near the top speed, I’d like to see anyone take this around a corner without losing control at top speed.
Marge Simpson: “I can’t see past all the SUVs!”
Homer Simpson: “Never mind about all the SUVs - there’s a gentle curve up ahead!”
That’s probably what it’s going to be like.
All of the tuned cars made to hit ludicrous MPH are merely meant for going in a straight line. They’re typically not fitted with enough spoilers to keep the wheels on the track when the person turns around. Yes, it may just be possible for this car to beat the Bugatti’s top speed (but I wouldn’t count on it), but you can guarantee that that’s all it can do.
ive got a aston martin DB8 and that is pretty fast but 0-60 in 1.67 seconds is fckng amazing, i mean 270 top speed is there a place that actually has a big enough strech to reach that and stop without killing someone or something!!
holy sh**balls this car is TANK!!:P i swear pretty soon there goign to strap on some airplaine engines and take off haha… 0-60mph in 1.67 seconds… thats liek touchin the pedal and sayin 1 ur at 100 kp/h.. thats nuts also the body is a nice fit for teh car nice and sleak i wanna see this thing in action.. 1 thing that doesnt look to good is the engine.. it looks sooo streetish not nice and clean but what the hell 1005 hp hu freakin cares:P anyways good job now i can rub it in my friends face how the bugati isnt the fastest car anymore:D:P
these claims seem pretty farfectched. considering that even the corvette with a linglefl. engine can boast over 900 horses, the problem that comes to mind is traction. upon testing the car (if anyone remembers Car and Driver’s Supercar challenge), the 0-60 times were pretty good. but, due to the lack of traction, it hurt it’s lap and 0-60 runs. same with the bugatti. there is a reason bugatti provides owners with a spoiler for the needed down-force. without this, the car can’t handle well reagrdless of how fast the car is. this is why upon testing koenigsegg’s CCX, i crashed