BMW is considering building a four-door “coupe” to compete with the Mercedes CLS-Class, according to a new report by German magazine Auto Zeitung. The vehicle would likely revive the 8-Series designation, starting with a new 850i.
BMW offered an 8-Series in the 1990s, with the V12 850Ci delivering 326 horsepower. A less expensive 840i delivered 286 hp. While V12 power is not a certainty for a new 8-Series, BMW does have a V12 engine from its 760i sedan at its disposal. The company also has its M division V10 available, as well as a range of V8s. The Auto Zeitung report suggests the first model would be an 850i, which means BMW is likely to use its V8 powerplant from the 550i and 650i in the base model.
[See the full Auto Zeitung illustration here].
Conflicting reports
In June 2006, Germany’s Auto Bild ran a cover story on BMW’s planned rival to the Mercedes CLS. At the time, we at Leftlane speculated it might signal the revival of the 8-Series.
The magazine later reported that the vehicle was in fact the next-generation 6-series, which it says will be offered in two- and four-door variants under the same nameplate.



04/03, 5:16 PM
posted by:
CTS DRIVER
oh sweet car gods from above my prayers have been answered, except for the power i thought the 850 coupe was the sexiest car bmw EVER made. please car gods i will be a good boy if you grace us with a new 850.
04/03, 5:17 PM
posted by:
autonutt
Nice idea to revive the 8-series name, but wouldn’t that pose a problem with pricing the vehicle against the CLS, since the higher numerical series suggests a starting price above the 6- and 7-series?
04/03, 5:20 PM
posted by:
maddawg0
Again… has BMW ever come out with a concept thats original… not a “ooh, look mercedes came out with it first, lets try and do it too”… I find it funny how if it wasnt for competition with Benz, bmw would only have maybe 3-4 car models.
04/03, 5:21 PM
posted by:
Ted Bell
MADDAWG=MORON
04/03, 5:26 PM
posted by:
RLX02
Agreed with autonutt, because it should fit between the 5 and 7 series, basically a 4 door 6 series, whereas the 8 series was the most expensive one.
Good
04/03, 5:27 PM
posted by:
RLX02
I got cut off.
^Good idea but i dont think it’ll look any better than the CLS…the CLS is very, very well made.
04/03, 5:33 PM
posted by:
W16
Years ago, my Dad owned an 850Ci… what a machine!..and what an engine. I´ve been praying that BMW would launch a new 850 breed- they have the engines and the know-how to do so… BUT, a 4-door 850? But then again, I understand that it would be competing against their own 6-series if they were to build an 850 coupe.
04/03, 5:53 PM
posted by:
Me
Maddawg, How about M Coupe, Z8, and X3, for starters? I could go on, but I won’t. And the competition between MB and BMW is what has made the best driving cars in the world. You may disagree.
As for the new Bimmer, kudos. They had to do something to compete with this awesome automobile. I still don’t quite agree with the “coupe” label on the CLS. All I know is that car caught everyone off their guard.
04/03, 5:58 PM
posted by:
autonutt
Me is correct (and I’m not talking in the third person BTW).. the CLS did catch everyone off guard, but now that the new S and E are adopting similarly sporty styling cues, what can they do for a sequel? BMW should seriously consider that before jumping into this “me-too” segment without something a little more unique.
04/03, 6:00 PM
posted by:
autonutt
..unless, of course, BMW plans to make their 4-door 8-series go head-to-head in price/performance/size with the 2-door Mercedes CL like the 4-door CLS goes head-to-head with the 2-door 6-series?
04/03, 6:07 PM
posted by:
tmn
Great, looks like BMW is dead set on making their model lineup as painfully bloated as M-B’s
04/03, 6:38 PM
posted by:
F451
Not big on the four-door idea, but big on the 850 series.
04/03, 8:23 PM
posted by:
Veda
A vehicle like this would fit Bimmer’s image more than the 7 series. It’s sporty enough…
04/03, 11:10 PM
posted by:
brownfv
GO FOR IT!
04/03, 11:11 PM
posted by:
Hyperion
Go BMW. I’d like a new 8-series V12 a lot more than the 6-series.
A V12 model is a must. I really hope they aren’t “mulling” the idea. You don’t produce an 8-Series range with no V12 model.
04/04, 12:34 AM
posted by:
europerspective
Me,
Why do you feel that “they had to do something to compete with this awesome automobile”. I don’t really understand the thinking that says when your competition makes a niche model you must join them, what purpose does it serve?
.
Some of the most respected companies have found success by striving to be innovative and not following market trends, Porsche is one (cash cow Cayenne excepted), Apple would be another.
.
Its not the only way to go, but the example is strong enough to allow us to question your thinking I hope.
04/04, 12:36 AM
posted by:
europerspective
Why are so many fans of the old 850 – a two door GT, getting excited about this concept – a rebodied 5 or 7-series. Apart from the name, I don’t see that the two have much in common.
04/04, 1:48 AM
posted by:
Stuart
And whose gonna buy this peice of ****?
Being a Mercedes fan I was starting to actually like BMW because they seemed more unique but they are even worse then Mercedes. How many is that now?
1. 1 Series
2. 2 Series
3. 3 Series
4. 5 Series
5. 6 Series
6. 7 Series
7. 8 Series
8. Z1
9. Z4
10. Z8
11. X1
12. X3
13. X5
14. X6
15. V3
16. V5
Sixteen models, make Mercedes look unique. Never will i consider a BMW again EVER
04/04, 2:35 AM
posted by:
maddawg0
I think BMW makes some of the greatest driving machines on the earth… but heres my beef with them. Look back 25+ years ago, where was BMW? they had a few sports cars, what was mercedes benz doing? they were about as good as Royles Royce or better, they were a by-word for apsolute quality. When people thought of luxary and build quality they thought of a Benz, when someone thought of a race car you can buy people thought of BMW. BMW wasnt really into luxary at the time.
But today, yeah they have alot of models, but anymore look at them all, the front ends of them all look about the same, through out their life they never did alot with the way the car looks, next to porsche, BMW is some of the laziest car designers in the world. Thats why i always admired mercedes, they always built something beautiful, and on top of that they took chances by completly changing their cars every few years, instead all bmw ever did was ever 5 years, they slightly updated the front and rear end of the car, instead of overall looks completly changed, they did little improvements because their motto is “why change something that works”.
Seriously look at all their models from dead on, they all each carry the same type of look…
look at all of mercedes benz’s front ends to all their lines, each car has its own personality, a different face, a different look. A car for many occasions.
04/04, 2:38 AM
posted by:
maddawg0
And i just cant stand that, why spend 100k on a BMW when you can buy their cheapest model and its just a smaller version of the big car, they still look the same. Thats like going to a family reunion, except a 15 person family, and everyones a twin, some are smaller than others, others taller, one has a little different hair style, but their face and characters are all about the same.
Just frustrates me, COME ON, DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT!
04/04, 2:41 AM
posted by:
maddawg0
But back to 4 door coupes, go sit in a CLS if you get the chance, and if you’re like me 6″1 180lbs, i honestly think its the smallest car in the world but my gawd its good looking. Its kinda like how women wear those high heels, uncomfortable as hell, but the end result makes them look good and stand out.
04/04, 2:48 AM
posted by:
Vdub
maddawggy dawg look at the rear of the 3,5, and 7 and compare that to the rear of the C, E and S. the front end of most of the BMWs look pretty disticnt aside from the twin kidney grills which is a tradition and unique feature of BMWs for 25+ years.
04/04, 3:56 AM
posted by:
megator
im so sick of all these ppl whining that cars look the same. yes they do a saloon will look like any other saloon its been like that forever. if u put a mkII escort next to a b kadett they look the same except for the lights. so no wonder a 3 series has a same basic shape as a seven. now bmw isnt half bad at distingushing its models ive never looked at a 5 and thought it was a 7. or even confused an x3 and x5 which are similar in size. with audi though i can never tell whether its an a4 or an a6 or even if its new or previous gen. and the about the extra models be happy its more choice. they can aford it because they share components across vehicles. bmw offres there strait 3.0 six in all their cars for example. this is the kind of sharing thats alright. if ur like gm and slap on a different badge and lights and sell it at 4 differet dealers then its **** sharing.
04/04, 4:26 AM
posted by:
europerspective
Spot on Megator, I agree that Beemer are better at defining separate model lines than most.
04/04, 6:19 AM
posted by:
Renton
I never really liked the CLS anyway.
04/04, 8:12 AM
posted by:
Me
Europerspective, you may question my thinking. I don’t mind. Niche vehicles are great. Often tho, niche cars create whole new segments (4dr coupes?). Some car companies can invest millions into a niche vehicle for any reason: brand image or even just for the sake of capitalizing on being the only one out there. The popularity of the 4Dr Ford Explorer and Suburban come to mind. Those practically created the SUV craze. We all know how big that got. The CLS is awesome. It’s popular. It might even be popular enough to start a craze. BMW cannot simply turn a blind eye to the CLS’s popularity. In this case BMW has the resources to build a competitor to the CLS. It has the engines, platforms and the can pilfer from existing cars. And as such there is a great business case for BMW. You said yourself “the competition”. They are competitors –arguably the best competitors in the business. You can’t compete if you don’t play, Euro.
04/04, 8:34 AM
posted by:
gbb
Sweet style any way you look at it. In 2-3 years all the Asian cars will look just like this……….and the automotive writers of the world will swoon.
04/04, 9:56 AM
posted by:
SRT-4Ken
————->I don’t know about yall, but that picture illustration above is GORGEOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I really hope they go for it shove that V12 in there!! serious real talk, take a picture of a CLS in the identical spot as that illustration, and put them beside each other. obviously, the bimmer looks better (most people act like the CLS styling can’t b improved upon)………..i say BUILD IT! name it 850i! i’m pretty confident if they do, and they style it very close to that illustration, it’l sell waay more than the CLS…..and me myself, i love the CLS………..
04/04, 10:38 AM
posted by:
SRT-4Ken
———>yes indeed!
04/04, 11:46 AM
posted by:
sik59rt
the nicest looking bimmer built in years was the last generation 8 series…..but it should stay a two door like the original
04/04, 12:56 PM
posted by:
TOZO
Another $100,000 BMW when all you really need is an M3, any model year.
04/04, 12:57 PM
posted by:
Jazz
Maddawg – Mercedes copied BMW. The 3 series was the first entry level lux-sport sedan , followed by the C class.
SRT-4Ken is right. BMW is jumping into the market to compete with the Porsche Panamera, Aston Martin Rapide and the Mercedes CLS. Personally I think that BMW nee messing up their own numbering system. Even numbers are for Roadster/Coupes. Odd is for Sedans/Suv. A chopped roof does not make this a coupe to me. nless tof course they come out with a new Z8 as well….
04/04, 12:57 PM
posted by:
Jazz
or an M8… hmmmmm.
04/04, 3:55 PM
posted by:
Aston Martin
It will try to compete with the CLS, but wouldn’t a big 850 be treading on M5 territory? Besides, I doubt Bangle can make a car that looks as good as the CLS. BMW will probably have the upper hand on performance though. However, in this section, I would buy the Maserati Quattroporte for its sheer elegance.
04/04, 3:58 PM
posted by:
Aston Martin
Before everyone starts salivating at the prospect of a beautiful Bimmer, we must remeber that BMW haven’t turned out a single good-looking car in ages. Mr Bangle is to be held responsible, and he will undoubtedly design this 8-series, if it comes.
04/04, 3:58 PM
posted by:
Aston Martin
Aston Martin Rapide will kill it though…
04/04, 4:29 PM
posted by:
Hyperion
Wasn’t the original 850 V-12 meant to compete with the top end Porsche Turbo of its day? I remember reading that it was designed in response to that car and that is why they jammed so much BMW technology into it that later on made it such a special cult car.
These days, the Porsche Turbo competitor from BMW is the M3 V8, so the motivation on the part of the designers is different for this concept 8-series: to revive a classic model versus building a better car than any direct sportscar competition.
Since Porsche is building a new front-engined 928 as a sedan, perhaps this is what BMW is trying to compete with in a revived 8-series.
04/04, 4:47 PM
posted by:
Toy Yoda
V-12 with 326HP. That seems like a waste. I know the number of cylinders don’t equate to horsepower and that V-12’s are meant for their smoothness, but why add all that extra weight? Then there’s the argument that V-12’s are about prestige…. I don’t understand that either. But, If they want smoothness, an inline-6 is smooth, and you can definitely crank out 326hp out of a 6.
04/04, 6:10 PM
posted by:
maddawg0
I’D RATHER STAPLE MY EARS TO A HORSE!
04/04, 6:56 PM
posted by:
W16
Ok. Go ahead… as long as an M8 is to be considered !!!
04/04, 9:02 PM
posted by:
SRT-4Ken
———————->Toy Yoda, you are an idiot. DID YOU READ THE ARTICLE?? it sayd “in the *1990s** the 850i had a 326hp V12. NOT two-thousand-seven. A 326hp V12 back in ‘91 when my old ‘91 Eagle Talon TSi came out, was pretty darn good.
04/05, 12:14 AM
posted by:
mb4evaslr
i dont know if its just me or if anyone said this because i was to lazy to read all the comments but doesnt the rear end in this picture look really similar to the hyundai genesis. not trying to bash it but they seriously look alike.
04/05, 1:35 AM
posted by:
Toy Yoda
Misread it, but the article did point out the V-12 as a possbility, which if it isn’t over 400hp, would still be waste. ~300hp out of a V-12 maybe impressive for an affordable luxury car, but let’s look at some other cars…… The Mercedes Gullwing which is 40 years older than 8-series, was a 6 cylinder car, had 215 hp, and had the first motor with direct injection, the “New” technology making the rounds today, how about that for a car that’s 60 years old?
The Alfa Romeo Tipo 33 is ~20 years older with 280HP V8 motor.
315HP isn’t all that impressive, many car models before the oil scare of the 1970’s boasted HP near or above 300. The oil scare just reset the horse race. Look at Buick, they had V8 motors with over 400HP.
04/05, 8:40 AM
posted by:
Sean
Everyone in here is going all insane and crazy over V12’s while the other post about gas hogs is full of people whining about it..I wonder if anyone whining about gas hogs and fuel prices posted in here about how ’sweet’ this car is.
04/05, 8:52 AM
posted by:
SRT-4Ken
—————>^^lol sean^^, that’s why i’m glad i have an SRT-4 instead of an SRT-[8] lol…………
04/06, 11:46 PM
posted by:
Ralph
wow the panamera and cls dont look near as good as this
04/07, 7:30 PM
posted by:
m6-500attouchofabutton
probably a 4 door option of the 2011 6 series as the article says…2011 six series is tight as hell btw.
probably would be called 650iL but it wont happen b/c bmw would be screwing up there distinct number system
04/13, 8:00 PM
posted by:
SSTRFSTR
CLS, Audi A7, VW Passat coupe, Porsche Panamera, Aston martin rapide — WHEN WILL IT END!?