BMW — the company that months ago touted a “production” hydrogen-combusion 7-Series — says the dream of hydrogen-powered cars emitting only water vapor is 30 years away.
“Hydrogen is considered to be one of the technologies that might be an answer in the long-term future, but it is a very long-term perspective,” BMW’s sales manager for Eastern Europe to the Asia-Pacific region, David Panton, told The Age in Australia.
“If we were able to solve all the (technical) issues, it would still take 20 to 30 years to get distribution channels in place across the world,” he said. In late December, Honda said it would be ready to sell reasonably affordable hydrogen cars by 2018. Of course, selling such cars would require an infrastructure to support them.



01/12, 4:58 PM
posted by:
Madcapp
Can’t wait. Really.
01/12, 5:02 PM
posted by:
Kendall Richardson
——->do they still have that danger of blowin up on impact?
01/12, 5:07 PM
posted by:
ironpony42
Yep – Collisions over 35mph just leave a crater…
01/12, 5:10 PM
posted by:
F451
I’ll be dead.
01/12, 5:12 PM
posted by:
Andre Neves
30 years is not acceptable. That is just about enough time to destroy our environment even more than it already is.
01/12, 5:19 PM
posted by:
peter g
Let’s hope hydrogen is the answer.
01/12, 5:22 PM
posted by:
mujician
It can be done sooner than that, all it takes is a strong government to commit to making it a reality.
01/12, 5:25 PM
posted by:
Oldsmobile
THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!1!!!!!
01/12, 5:31 PM
posted by:
Andre Neves
mujician,
No, all it takes is for a environmental cotastrophe to happen unexpectedly and THEN they will do something. While at the same time blaming the environmentalists for not warning them soon enough lol.
01/12, 5:41 PM
posted by:
GT40
30 years?! lame.
01/12, 5:57 PM
posted by:
mujician
Go figure, everyone is to busy making money off the depleting oil reserves.
01/12, 6:17 PM
posted by:
Kendall Richardson
—–>I THINK its an alternative, but i seriously BELEIVE that hydrogen is really not the answer. if all our cars ran off of hydrogen, we would be killin off the “human environment” almost every time a car crashes………
01/12, 6:42 PM
posted by:
Zorlox
then don’t crash? city streets here are all 30 or 35 mph anyway, what i’ve always wanted to see is a system that takes over the car on freeways/highways so any driving at high speeds would be automated and (hopefully) safe enough to avoid cars crashing. that doesn’t seem like it’d be too hard to do over the next 30 years
01/12, 6:48 PM
posted by:
megator
okay ppl hydrogen is not a fuel. Find me some place where you can get pure hydrogen by mineing or some other simple process. hyrdrogen is a storer of energy thats it. it has to be refined from natural gas or electolisised by electricity. hydrogen is only cleaner when it is produced using energy harnesed from wind,solar,geothermal or non contaminating biomass power. so maybe bmw is saying that this wont me achieved till 30 years
so bmw can spend all the money theyve got on trying to achieve this but thyll just go broke. we gotta get the oil companies which make billions to start backing this up. they aint gonna do that till the climate changes horibly and its too late or till oil starts running out.
01/12, 6:51 PM
posted by:
rey323
My interpretation from that remark is that it won’t take BMW to make a hydrogren car in 30 years, but rather it would take 20 to 30 years to have enough hydrogen refueling stations to make that technology viable.
01/12, 9:06 PM
posted by:
Zorlox
megator – aluminum and hydrochloric acid react to make hydrogen gas, i’m pretty sure leaving hydrogen peroxide in sunlight will do the same. a more promising method can use any alcohol and react it with air, using heat and rhodium as catalysts.
what does it mean, ‘it would still take 20 to 30 years to get distribution channels in place across the world’ – distribution channels for hydrogen or for the cars?
01/12, 9:51 PM
posted by:
LJ
If the govt and oil companies wanted to, the infrastructure could be done in 5-10 years. hey, it “only” took what, 8 years to send a man to the moon?
And, if it is 30 years, it’ll be too late for me, as i will be either dead, or unable ot drive myself any more.
01/12, 10:07 PM
posted by:
Hyperion
“what i’ve always wanted to see is a system that takes over the car on freeways/highways so any driving at high speeds would be automated and (hopefully) safe enough to avoid cars crashing.”
Zorlox, please don’t give stupid people with power creative ideas by suggesting something like this. Answers to questions no one has asked get put into effect all the time. I do not mean this as a personal put down at all. It’s just a dangerous solution to suggest because once you set up a system like this that takes control away from the driver, you will never get that control back.
We need much better driver training and stricter enforcement of the *other* driving laws that people disregard, such as the “drive right” rule, using signals, leaving enough distance, etc. Not everyone is a good enough driver to have their own license, young or adult.
The solution is to weed out dangerous and careless drivers, not impose an expensive and complicated system that takes away the very pleasure of driving a car during a commute.
Then there’s another solution that millions of people all over the world have used for 170 years when wishing to travel long distances between cities: trains.
01/13, 12:28 AM
posted by:
Sharif
hydrogen will never work, i think we are all going to end up with electrical, or solar powered cars. i think this cuz it would be cheaper than to create a new infrastructure. Besides the Telsa roadster is doing pretty good. And the electric motor is close to resolving most of our problems.
01/13, 9:10 AM
posted by:
mujician
The solar power and electric wouldn’t work either, and you notice that no company is tapping in, because their is no type of fuel their that can be produced and create a market. THeir for all of these auto companies cannot turn around and make investments along with the rest of us. Another market is going to need to be created.
I think the answer to the question, what is going to be the solution. Will probably be a fuel that is still not even tapped into. Something that will all of a sudden pop up will blow everyone away, and the person or company will instantly become the richest in the world.
Dam, Ive got to stop reading science fiction novels!
01/13, 12:24 PM
posted by:
Syrax
look bb_454…THIS is the only post that GMRules is not…what can he say about pontiac’s hydrogen technology?
01/13, 3:41 PM
posted by:
A4
yeah maybe people would stop driving like assholes if they all had the pintos of the 21st century.
01/13, 5:46 PM
posted by:
Syrax
A4, i second that!
01/13, 11:06 PM
posted by:
Hyperion
No, they’d start to drive like they were in India: all driving relatively underpowered cars all trying to overtake one another to stay at speed.
01/14, 3:16 AM
posted by:
stick2clutch
30 years? is that how much time the oil tycoons bought for themselves?? nice.
01/17, 1:18 PM
posted by:
Matt Keegan
Funny! We all thought that BMW was going to be the first one to the market. I guess they realized that small, nuclear explosions were not something easily ironed out:
http://thearticlewriter.com/autowriter/bmws-hydrogen-fuel-quest/