Comments on: BMW, Mercedes-Benz mulling four-cylinders for the U.S. http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-mercedes-benz-mulling-four-cylinders-for-the-us.html Car news, reviews, and specs for the auto-industry Sat, 11 Feb 2012 00:06:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: RaineMan http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-mercedes-benz-mulling-four-cylinders-for-the-us.html#comment-453475 RaineMan Tue, 28 Apr 2009 02:12:13 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=17383#comment-453475 Well.. the saying supposedly goes "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." but I haven't seen a Jetta TDI or a BMW 335d win anything yet. Even with 450+lb/ft of torque the 335d barely hits 60 in under 6 seconds... and you can't get it with a manual. Well.. the saying supposedly goes “Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races.” but I haven’t seen a Jetta TDI or a BMW 335d win anything yet. Even with 450+lb/ft of torque the 335d barely hits 60 in under 6 seconds… and you can’t get it with a manual.

]]> By: Borat http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-mercedes-benz-mulling-four-cylinders-for-the-us.html#comment-453400 Borat Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:41:22 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=17383#comment-453400 Price of diesel in my neck of the woods are few pennies higher then premium, required by all luxury vehicles. The price of engine is 1-2K above the same model with similar sized gasoline. Considering diesle's torque is of a higher number of cylinders motor - it's a toss. Price of diesel in my neck of the woods are few pennies higher then premium, required by all luxury vehicles. The price of engine is 1-2K above the same model with similar sized gasoline. Considering diesle’s torque is of a higher number of cylinders motor – it’s a toss.

]]> By: RaineMan http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-mercedes-benz-mulling-four-cylinders-for-the-us.html#comment-453392 RaineMan Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:28:03 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=17383#comment-453392 No diesels... period. The price is too high and you'll never drive enough miles to offset the cost of the engine and fuel. Plus this new "urea injection" is exactly what it sounds like... a load of piss. Stick with gasoline engines. If GM can get 300hp out of a turbocharged 2.0 that gets 30MPG on the highway companies like MB & BMW need to take a lesson. Hell, the supercharged 2.0 in my 06 Cobalt SS is putting 240 to the wheels and I get 35MPG at 70MPH. No diesels… period. The price is too high and you’ll never drive enough miles to offset the cost of the engine and fuel. Plus this new “urea injection” is exactly what it sounds like… a load of piss.

Stick with gasoline engines. If GM can get 300hp out of a turbocharged 2.0 that gets 30MPG on the highway companies like MB & BMW need to take a lesson.

Hell, the supercharged 2.0 in my 06 Cobalt SS is putting 240 to the wheels and I get 35MPG at 70MPH.

]]> By: idrinorbarsaku http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-mercedes-benz-mulling-four-cylinders-for-the-us.html#comment-453379 idrinorbarsaku Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:08:57 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=17383#comment-453379 Raineman, I agree with you. If not a 4cyl gas, how about a diesel? All my family member in europe drive 4 & 6 cylinder deisels and they are awesome! The 2.0t from vw is a great engine imo. it has all the power to pass on the freeway(thanks to the turbo) and the power to haul all of your friends a$$es:-) I'm sure mercedes could come up with something...it better have a turbo! Raineman,
I agree with you. If not a 4cyl gas, how about a diesel? All my family member in europe drive 4 & 6 cylinder deisels and they are awesome! The 2.0t from vw is a great engine imo. it has all the power to pass on the freeway(thanks to the turbo) and the power to haul all of your friends a$$es:-) I’m sure mercedes could come up with something…it better have a turbo!

]]> By: shaver http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-mercedes-benz-mulling-four-cylinders-for-the-us.html#comment-453342 shaver Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:10:13 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=17383#comment-453342 I hope its as wonderful as the Japanese 4 bangers. LOL I got one for my 4th b'day and its still as good as new 30 years later. I actually put it in my friends cars to get us home when their American cars break down all the time. LOL I hope its as wonderful as the Japanese 4 bangers. LOL I got one for my 4th b’day and its still as good as new 30 years later. I actually put it in my friends cars to get us home when their American cars break down all the time. LOL

]]> By: Madcapp http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-mercedes-benz-mulling-four-cylinders-for-the-us.html#comment-453297 Madcapp Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:29:10 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=17383#comment-453297 All auto manufacturers need to quit dickin' around and move forward on this already. Its an obvious no-brainer. Volkswagen/Audi already offers a fantastic 2.0T four cylinder with direct injection and a turbo. Plus, so far as I know, 4 cylinders are the only engine platform paired to Bosch/Valeo stop-start systems. No wonder Volkswagen is on the verge of overtaking Toyota, they have their fundamentals in order. All auto manufacturers need to quit dickin’ around and move forward on this already. Its an obvious no-brainer. Volkswagen/Audi already offers a fantastic 2.0T four cylinder with direct injection and a turbo. Plus, so far as I know, 4 cylinders are the only engine platform paired to Bosch/Valeo stop-start systems. No wonder Volkswagen is on the verge of overtaking Toyota, they have their fundamentals in order.

]]> By: Borat http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-mercedes-benz-mulling-four-cylinders-for-the-us.html#comment-453284 Borat Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:53:36 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=17383#comment-453284 Over 200 ponies out of 2.2L engine is nothing short of excellent. Actually a lot of diesels in Europe are surpassing gasoline engines in HP numbers and way above and beyond gasoline counterparts in torque. Torque is moving the vehicle and important to overcome weight. And diesels are known for torque. Actually torque in 2.2L I4 diesel is probably the same as in 3.5L V6 of gasoline model. So the car/CUV will not attain top speed of gasoline model in US where top speed limit is 75 mph (89 semi safe mode of operation). Even smaller diesel will get 90 mph. And another side effect: although slower from the start diesel accelerates much faster on a highway (50 to 70 mph). Over 200 ponies out of 2.2L engine is nothing short of excellent. Actually a lot of diesels in Europe are surpassing gasoline engines in HP numbers and way above and beyond gasoline counterparts in torque. Torque is moving the vehicle and important to overcome weight. And diesels are known for torque. Actually torque in 2.2L I4 diesel is probably the same as in 3.5L V6 of gasoline model. So the car/CUV will not attain top speed of gasoline model in US where top speed limit is 75 mph (89 semi safe mode of operation). Even smaller diesel will get 90 mph. And another side effect: although slower from the start diesel accelerates much faster on a highway (50 to 70 mph).

]]> By: RaineMan http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-mercedes-benz-mulling-four-cylinders-for-the-us.html#comment-453277 RaineMan Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:20:54 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=17383#comment-453277 These manufacturers used to offer 4-bangers in their bottom-level models. They only went away from them because the cars are too heavy. If you want better performance and economy out of a vehicle... shed some weight and/or size. It may not be the cheapest option... but something has to buck the trend of "bigger is better" here or we are all going to be driving 2-door limos before this is over. These manufacturers used to offer 4-bangers in their bottom-level models. They only went away from them because the cars are too heavy. If you want better performance and economy out of a vehicle… shed some weight and/or size. It may not be the cheapest option… but something has to buck the trend of “bigger is better” here or we are all going to be driving 2-door limos before this is over.

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