Comments on: BMW plans 8-speed automatic http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic.html Car news, reviews, and specs for the auto-industry Fri, 10 Feb 2012 19:20:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: DeezNutz http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic.html#comment-297684 DeezNutz Thu, 08 Feb 2007 14:50:51 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/02/05/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic/#comment-297684 America, It is my understanding that the Gen2 Nissan EXP CVT is Japan market only. Gen3 is supposed to be based on IVT tech. found in some heavy trucks and machinery. By typical I meant the VW DSG. The Veyron is "beefier from the clutches to the gears to the AWD setup capable of propelling that monster. I'm sure you already know the detailed differences between the two. You are correct, there will be improvements on the DSG for sure. I think we will see those improvements when Porsche and BMW release their versions of the system. I mean they would have to be to handle the power flow of the 997 Turbo. DSG is now. CVT is the future. America,
It is my understanding that the Gen2 Nissan EXP CVT is Japan market only. Gen3 is supposed to be based on IVT tech. found in some heavy trucks and machinery.

By typical I meant the VW DSG. The Veyron is “beefier from the clutches to the gears to the AWD setup capable of propelling that monster. I’m sure you already know the detailed differences between the two.

You are correct, there will be improvements on the DSG for sure. I think we will see those improvements when Porsche and BMW release their versions of the system.
I mean they would have to be to handle the power flow of the 997 Turbo.

DSG is now.
CVT is the future.

]]> By: ml350pc http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic.html#comment-297321 ml350pc Wed, 07 Feb 2007 16:30:10 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/02/05/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic/#comment-297321 My Cannondale has more speeds than the Lexus or BMW, so I guess that makes my bicycle better than cars from either of these 2 Companies. My Cannondale has more speeds than the Lexus or BMW, so I guess that makes my bicycle better than cars from either of these 2 Companies.

]]> By: anderson_b76 http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic.html#comment-297074 anderson_b76 Tue, 06 Feb 2007 21:37:05 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/02/05/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic/#comment-297074 How about BMW plans to actually use real leather on their seats? How about BMW plans to actually use real leather on their seats?

]]> By: American http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic.html#comment-296941 American Tue, 06 Feb 2007 15:58:37 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/02/05/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic/#comment-296941 DeezNutz, We have yet to see such Nissan CVT in production... * Yes the current dual clutch systems are torque limited, but there will be improvements for sure... * Veyron's dual-clutch is even better than the VW DSG and it is built by Ricardo UK. Give some reference, what you mean by "doesn't have a typical dual-clutch"?? * Porsche is lazy these days :) But they will come out with a good dual-clutch system because is the only way they can keep the 911 competitive in the current horsepower war. DeezNutz,
We have yet to see such Nissan CVT in production…
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Yes the current dual clutch systems are torque limited, but there will be improvements for sure…
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Veyron’s dual-clutch is even better than the VW DSG and it is built by Ricardo UK. Give some reference, what you mean by “doesn’t have a typical dual-clutch”??
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Porsche is lazy these days :)
But they will come out with a good dual-clutch system because is the only way they can keep the 911 competitive in the current horsepower war.

]]> By: Saud http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic.html#comment-296916 Saud Tue, 06 Feb 2007 14:28:36 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/02/05/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic/#comment-296916 The current 6 speed is good enough but more is better The current 6 speed is good enough but more is better

]]> By: DeezNutz http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic.html#comment-296895 DeezNutz Tue, 06 Feb 2007 09:56:54 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/02/05/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic/#comment-296895 American........Nissans new EXT CVT system, (not in production) can handle much more than 350ftlb of torque without the slushy belt feel of the current CVT's. DSG itself is limited by torque input unless you have and are willing to spend $1.4 million for the Veyron or you can wait for the Audi R8. Contrary to popular belief the Veyron doesn't have a typical dual clucth like the ones found in say a VW GTI. This is why Porsche has yet to introduce a dual clutch for the 997 Turbo. American……..Nissans new EXT CVT system, (not in production) can handle much more than 350ftlb of torque without the slushy belt feel of the current CVT’s. DSG itself is limited by torque input unless you have and are willing to spend $1.4 million for the Veyron or you can wait for the Audi R8. Contrary to popular belief the Veyron doesn’t have a typical dual clucth like the ones found in say a VW GTI. This is why Porsche has yet to introduce a dual clutch for the 997 Turbo.

]]> By: niallpolley http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic.html#comment-296883 niallpolley Tue, 06 Feb 2007 06:21:24 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/02/05/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic/#comment-296883 Totally stupid. Engines are becoming ever-more ridiculously powerful, with torque characteristics we could only dream of, meanwhile the speeds we drive at are falling due primarily to congestion and secondarily to enforcement: shouldn't we be reducing the number of ratios in our gearboxes and enjoying a smooth ride? My old Blazer has three speeds and a mountain of torque, I love just slotting third at 15mph and not changing gear for the next hour or so, actually far more comfortable if I have to cover distances than my S2000. Having a box jammed full of ratios only adds to enjoyment when you are heading out for a blast, which is not a daily occurence for many of us any more. Even if the auto boxes mentioned here are ultra-smooth, its still a whole lot of technology and weight that make our cars more expensive, heavier and ultimately more expensive to maintain. Totally stupid. Engines are becoming ever-more ridiculously powerful, with torque characteristics we could only dream of, meanwhile the speeds we drive at are falling due primarily to congestion and secondarily to enforcement: shouldn’t we be reducing the number of ratios in our gearboxes and enjoying a smooth ride?

My old Blazer has three speeds and a mountain of torque, I love just slotting third at 15mph and not changing gear for the next hour or so, actually far more comfortable if I have to cover distances than my S2000. Having a box jammed full of ratios only adds to enjoyment when you are heading out for a blast, which is not a daily occurence for many of us any more.

Even if the auto boxes mentioned here are ultra-smooth, its still a whole lot of technology and weight that make our cars more expensive, heavier and ultimately more expensive to maintain.

]]> By: MyGodBeatsYourGod http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic.html#comment-296850 MyGodBeatsYourGod Tue, 06 Feb 2007 02:43:09 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/02/05/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic/#comment-296850 Almost as many speeds as a typical Peterbuilt... Had to beat MB's 7sp. Stupid. Almost as many speeds as a typical Peterbuilt…

Had to beat MB’s 7sp. Stupid.

]]> By: ironpony42 http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic.html#comment-296844 ironpony42 Tue, 06 Feb 2007 02:33:47 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/02/05/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic/#comment-296844 Right, 8 speed. Cause 7 arn't enough in todays world. WTF ever. But, I will say I enjoy the 6-speed manual in my Wrangler. Every now and again, I actually get it into 6th gear, and think how cool I am doing so. I don't see the point of this, except for the pre-mentioned "mine is bigger than yours" theory. I'd say that'd the most valid, considering we all know BMW 7 series owners could care less about the .4 mpg saved rollin' in 8th. Right, 8 speed. Cause 7 arn’t enough in todays world. WTF ever. But, I will say I enjoy the 6-speed manual in my Wrangler. Every now and again, I actually get it into 6th gear, and think how cool I am doing so.

I don’t see the point of this, except for the pre-mentioned “mine is bigger than yours” theory. I’d say that’d the most valid, considering we all know BMW 7 series owners could care less about the .4 mpg saved rollin’ in 8th.

]]> By: American http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic.html#comment-296842 American Tue, 06 Feb 2007 02:26:53 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/02/05/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic/#comment-296842 "CVT technology done right will eclipse the functionality [of] SMG, DSG and whatever else G" Correct, but the problem is no CVT can yet handle 350+ lbft of torque that these great engines make. The dual clutch (DSG equivalent) in the Bugatti Veyron handles already 922 lbft of torque! “CVT technology done right will eclipse the functionality [of] SMG, DSG and whatever else G”

Correct, but the problem is no CVT can yet handle 350+ lbft of torque that these great engines make.

The dual clutch (DSG equivalent) in the Bugatti Veyron handles already 922 lbft of torque!

]]> By: DeezNutz http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic.html#comment-296776 DeezNutz Mon, 05 Feb 2007 22:49:55 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/02/05/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic/#comment-296776 CVT is the way to go. The Subaru Justy had a CVT back in the early 1980's and before that you could buy them for gokarts by mail order. Nissan has a vastly improved design but requires a special fluid to work correctly. CVT technology done right will eclipse the functionality SMG, DSG and whatever else G. CVT is the way to go.
The Subaru Justy had a CVT back in the early 1980′s and before that you could buy them for gokarts by mail order.
Nissan has a vastly improved design but requires a special fluid to work correctly. CVT technology done right will eclipse the functionality SMG, DSG and whatever else G.

]]> By: mujician http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic.html#comment-296752 mujician Mon, 05 Feb 2007 21:48:11 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/02/05/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic/#comment-296752 Looks like everything I was going to say has already been said. I'll have to come up with something to piss off Lambo. Looks like everything I was going to say has already been said. I’ll have to come up with something to piss off Lambo.

]]> By: LamborghiniZ http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic.html#comment-296746 LamborghiniZ Mon, 05 Feb 2007 21:25:45 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/02/05/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic/#comment-296746 Lexus has a great 8 speed auto, the 7 speed MB uses is supposed to be great too, this is how things will become, progress is inevitable, etc, etc Lexus has a great 8 speed auto, the 7 speed MB uses is supposed to be great too, this is how things will become, progress is inevitable, etc, etc

]]> By: Sean http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic.html#comment-296729 Sean Mon, 05 Feb 2007 20:49:26 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/02/05/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic/#comment-296729 I would have thought BMW was going to drop the automatic gearbox as soon as their Dual Clutch gearbox comes out as their SMG sucessor. I would have thought BMW was going to drop the automatic gearbox as soon as their Dual Clutch gearbox comes out as their SMG sucessor.

]]> By: Adrio http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic.html#comment-296722 Adrio Mon, 05 Feb 2007 20:32:20 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/02/05/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic/#comment-296722 I agree. They should be focusing on improving the box with dual clutch or improved CVT. I agree. They should be focusing on improving the box with dual clutch or improved CVT.

]]> By: American http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic.html#comment-296714 American Mon, 05 Feb 2007 19:40:40 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/02/05/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic/#comment-296714 BMW: “when it comes to the number of speeds, we will not be left behind by the competition.” How lame is that? BMW & ZF, compete with the dual-clutch if you can! Make the transmission lighter if you can. Ah, you cannot… Then just add one more gear, that easy, cheap and almost useless. Dual clutch (DSG and others that will come) will completely eliminate this antiquated torque converter based technology. Wake up BMW, Lexus and ZF! BMW: “when it comes to the number of speeds, we will not be left behind by the competition.”
How lame is that? BMW & ZF, compete with the dual-clutch if you can!
Make the transmission lighter if you can.
Ah, you cannot… Then just add one more gear, that easy, cheap and almost useless.

Dual clutch (DSG and others that will come) will completely eliminate this antiquated torque converter based technology. Wake up BMW, Lexus and ZF!

]]> By: eam3 http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic.html#comment-296712 eam3 Mon, 05 Feb 2007 19:37:28 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/02/05/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic/#comment-296712 Didn't BMW use GM transmissions on the 3 and 5 series for a while? I know the ZF 4HP22 on my old 7 was a ticking time bomb so they were nothing to brag about. Didn’t BMW use GM transmissions on the 3 and 5 series for a while? I know the ZF 4HP22 on my old 7 was a ticking time bomb so they were nothing to brag about.

]]> By: rey323 http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic.html#comment-296710 rey323 Mon, 05 Feb 2007 19:21:22 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/02/05/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic/#comment-296710 What technologically, does 8 speed offer over 6 or 7? My guess so far is even a quieter ride at freeway speed and marginal increase in mpg. What technologically, does 8 speed offer over 6 or 7? My guess so far is even a quieter ride at freeway speed and marginal increase in mpg.

]]> By: NOS2006 http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic.html#comment-296709 NOS2006 Mon, 05 Feb 2007 19:19:36 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/02/05/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic/#comment-296709 I think this is a thing of the future. From what I hear, Cadillac is busy developing one of these eight speed autos, too. It'll help gas mileage and acceleration just as much over a six speed than a six speed will over a four speed. It'll make a difference, especially in marketing. I think this is a thing of the future. From what I hear, Cadillac is busy developing one of these eight speed autos, too. It’ll help gas mileage and acceleration just as much over a six speed than a six speed will over a four speed. It’ll make a difference, especially in marketing.

]]> By: SRT-4Ken http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic.html#comment-296706 SRT-4Ken Mon, 05 Feb 2007 19:06:42 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/02/05/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic/#comment-296706 ------>XeroBlue, how in tha world did you read my mind like that?? ("I've got 8...how many do you have?")......that's exactly what its all about.... ——>XeroBlue, how in tha world did you read my mind like that?? (“I’ve got 8…how many do you have?”)……that’s exactly what its all about….

]]> By: Bush http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic.html#comment-296705 Bush Mon, 05 Feb 2007 18:52:26 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/02/05/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic/#comment-296705 Or is it just so you can say: "I've got 8…how many do you have?" That's exactly what its all about. Or is it just so you can say: “I’ve got 8…how many do you have?”

That’s exactly what its all about.

]]> By: global_lightning http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic.html#comment-296704 global_lightning Mon, 05 Feb 2007 18:50:03 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/02/05/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic/#comment-296704 This only makes sense if it will be a DSG. Otherwise with a traditional automatic you'll hit diminished returns as the transmission will spend more of it's time switching gears than actual staying in gear! This only makes sense if it will be a DSG. Otherwise with a traditional automatic you’ll hit diminished returns as the transmission will spend more of it’s time switching gears than actual staying in gear!

]]> By: hanlond http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic.html#comment-296700 hanlond Mon, 05 Feb 2007 18:39:09 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/02/05/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic/#comment-296700 The only reason they're doing this is just to say they have an transmission with more speeds then all/most of the competition. There probably will be slight gains in fuel economy, acceleration and/or speed because of the added gear(s), but not a significant amount, unless they really work at perfecting the gear ratios or a miracle happens. The only reason they’re doing this is just to say they have an transmission with more speeds then all/most of the competition. There probably will be slight gains in fuel economy, acceleration and/or speed because of the added gear(s), but not a significant amount, unless they really work at perfecting the gear ratios or a miracle happens.

]]> By: Syrax http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic.html#comment-296694 Syrax Mon, 05 Feb 2007 18:21:21 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/02/05/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic/#comment-296694 i think 6 speed is pretty much enough i think 6 speed is pretty much enough

]]> By: XeroBlue http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic.html#comment-296687 XeroBlue Mon, 05 Feb 2007 18:10:07 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/02/05/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic/#comment-296687 8 Seems a bit much. Going thought 8 gears manually does not seem "fun" to me. But if your driving an LS or 7 your prolly not gonna be the type to race through the gears in a manual fashion. It would be nice if they presented some data that shows what kind of improvements having a 8 speed tranny over a 7 or 6 would be if any. Is the 8 heavier, lighter, faster, smoother, better epa if so how much? Or is it just so you can say: "I've got 8...how many do you have?" 8 Seems a bit much. Going thought 8 gears manually does not seem “fun” to me. But if your driving an LS or 7 your prolly not gonna be the type to race through the gears in a manual fashion. It would be nice if they presented some data that shows what kind of improvements having a 8 speed tranny over a 7 or 6 would be if any. Is the 8 heavier, lighter, faster, smoother, better epa if so how much? Or is it just so you can say: “I’ve got 8…how many do you have?”

]]> By: SRT-4Ken http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic.html#comment-296677 SRT-4Ken Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:57:18 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/02/05/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic/#comment-296677 ----->What difference would an 8 speed do for fuel economy really than a 5 or 6 speed with larger overdrive gears??....and speedwise? my 5speed manual does just fine gettin my 4cyl. SRT-4 allway up to 153mph......corny trends....... —–>What difference would an 8 speed do for fuel economy really than a 5 or 6 speed with larger overdrive gears??….and speedwise? my 5speed manual does just fine gettin my 4cyl. SRT-4 allway up to 153mph……corny trends…….

]]> By: SRT-4Ken http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic.html#comment-296675 SRT-4Ken Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:57:17 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/02/05/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic/#comment-296675 ----->What difference would an 8 speed do for fuel economy really than a 5 or 6 speed with larger overdrive gears??....and speedwise? my 5speed manual does just fine gettin my 4cyl. SRT-4 allway up to 153mph......corny trends....... —–>What difference would an 8 speed do for fuel economy really than a 5 or 6 speed with larger overdrive gears??….and speedwise? my 5speed manual does just fine gettin my 4cyl. SRT-4 allway up to 153mph……corny trends…….

]]> By: Bush http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic.html#comment-296673 Bush Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:56:14 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/02/05/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic/#comment-296673 And the bidding continues... do I hear 25, 35? Going going... And the bidding continues… do I hear 25, 35? Going going…

]]> By: SRT-4Ken http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic.html#comment-296670 SRT-4Ken Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:52:35 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/02/05/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic/#comment-296670 --->LoL Jason.......SERIOUSLY, i think all this 7&8 speed bandwagon stuff is CORNY to tha FULLEST......i mean, the 7speed ///M5 in my view is perfect for its engine/powercurve characteristics, but EIGHT??? oh yea, lexus too......what difference would an 8 speed do for fuel economy really than a 5 or 6 speed?? —>LoL Jason…….SERIOUSLY, i think all this 7&8 speed bandwagon stuff is CORNY to tha FULLEST……i mean, the 7speed ///M5 in my view is perfect for its engine/powercurve characteristics, but EIGHT??? oh yea, lexus too……what difference would an 8 speed do for fuel economy really than a 5 or 6 speed??

]]> By: Impulsive http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic.html#comment-296667 Impulsive Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:51:23 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/02/05/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic/#comment-296667 Maybe after they've completed the transmission transformation, they can focus on better car design. I say keep the lower number of gears, just make the cars look better. Maybe after they’ve completed the transmission transformation, they can focus on better car design.

I say keep the lower number of gears, just make the cars look better.

]]> By: Jason http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic.html#comment-296666 Jason Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:34:11 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/02/05/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic/#comment-296666 Soon BMWs will have more gears than bicycles. Soon BMWs will have more gears than bicycles.

]]> By: wetstuff http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic.html#comment-296663 wetstuff Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:18:26 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/02/05/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic/#comment-296663 The ZF engineers call it a 'notchy CVT' in private. The ZF engineers call it a ‘notchy CVT’ in private.

]]> By: deutschetouring1337 http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic.html#comment-296662 deutschetouring1337 Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:17:02 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/02/05/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic/#comment-296662 Um don't trucks already have 18 speed trannys. As for CVT's trannys are only good for FWD vehicles, Audi sold the technology to other companies, and the Zeroshift transmission has no break in power like the Audi DSG. Um don’t trucks already have 18 speed trannys. As for CVT’s trannys are only good for FWD vehicles, Audi sold the technology to other companies, and the Zeroshift transmission has no break in power like the Audi DSG.

]]> By: phastt http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic.html#comment-296660 phastt Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:14:42 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/02/05/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic/#comment-296660 The next step... 8 speed paddle shift to take over manual shift. I don't want to see it coming, but imagine the entire M-line without manual shift. It's a sad world. The next step… 8 speed paddle shift to take over manual shift. I don’t want to see it coming, but imagine the entire M-line without manual shift. It’s a sad world.

]]> By: 55amg http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic.html#comment-296659 55amg Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:11:27 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/02/05/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic/#comment-296659 and then someones gonna come out with a 10 speed automatic soon. by 2020 we would probably have 15 speed automatics. a couple years ago 6 was alot. and then someones gonna come out with a 10 speed automatic soon. by 2020 we would probably have 15 speed automatics. a couple years ago 6 was alot.

]]> By: nitroracer http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic.html#comment-296657 nitroracer Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:08:07 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/02/05/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic/#comment-296657 Wouldn't it be easier to develop a CVT that could just handle some torque? Wouldn’t it be easier to develop a CVT that could just handle some torque?

]]> By: F451 http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic.html#comment-296651 F451 Mon, 05 Feb 2007 16:56:24 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/02/05/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic/#comment-296651 The heat is on! GM? GM is a company that wastes large sums of money—that they don't have—on Super Bowl ads, while giving away second-rate cars to players who deserve better. The heat is on! GM? GM is a company that wastes large sums of money—that they don’t have—on Super Bowl ads, while giving away second-rate cars to players who deserve better.

]]> By: mac.man25 http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic.html#comment-296650 mac.man25 Mon, 05 Feb 2007 16:54:48 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/02/05/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic/#comment-296650 One question, what's the point? Or what is it good for? One question, what’s the point? Or what is it good for?

]]> By: car-a-holic http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic.html#comment-296649 car-a-holic Mon, 05 Feb 2007 16:51:37 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/02/05/bmw-plans-8-speed-automatic/#comment-296649 bmw could get it right.....gm might need to wait until the third or fourth try. this stuff makes the four and even five speeds semms like cheap trash. bmw could get it right…..gm might need to wait until the third or fourth try. this stuff makes the four and even five speeds semms like cheap trash.

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