I was only at John Lance Ford, so I’m not sure if it was a nation wide, dealer unveiling, but I would try to get to a ford dealer….it’s well worth it…they also have free hotdogs, hamburgers, drinks, and popcorn!

Comparing the design techniques of this new Lacrosse to those of Hyundai is a joke and completely wrong. Hyundai does not have a definitive design direction. Hyundais aren’t instantly recognizable as Hyundais until you go up and look at the badge.

Buick, on the other hand, has a design language. Mainly – the waterfall grille (it was Buick’s first, not Mercury’s), “sweep-spear”, and hood portholes (even though they don’t function). They’ve been present in one way or another on Buick’s modern concept cars such as the Riviera. Even the Business concept, an MPV (gasp) had those design elements.

Malibu had the same feature in 2007. There are only so many places to stick chrome on a car. The GS has chrome trim in that same location but it hardly means the lacrosse is a clone of the GS. Lexus has been cloning European designs since 1989 so I find it ironic that you are so concerned about Buick copying any Lexus design cues.

I get what you are saying but Buick sales are very low (except for the Enclave) and no matter how you spin it, 2 luxury brands from the same company in his day and age is poor business practice. GM really did ruin Pontiac but it wouldn’t take much to save them. Buick is only popular in China. No offense but your thinking more in the short run and thinking like a bean counter. There always needs to be “halo cars” and cars that are not boring to be successful these days. Its not always about the money. Maybe your right, maybe Pontiac is not good to still have around, maybe buick is more viable, but if that’s the case, it should be sold and not killed.

By the way, thanks for being mature on here. There’s a lot of kids that like to say dumb stuff if they don’t agree with you.

sj79: ” Lexus using chrome in the first place is a copy off American makes”.
Wow your idiocracy is boundless. I was talking about this car’s use of sideplates under the doors in almost the exact same form and fashion as some other cars, most notably on the Lexus GS and LS models. Why would I say this or any other car’s use of chrome is an imitation. The use of a notable design feature, such as BMW’s hofmeister kink, is a clear imitation tactic. Learn to comprehend before posting.

No moron, they can be profitable with the CURRENT structure. the entire point of what the ATF wanted from GM was a business plan that would allow them to make money if sales only hit 10M units a year and they sell 18% of the vehicles in the country. Its that simple. In case you have been under a rock lately their cost structure is much lower now due to the debts they have shed. They have also bought out thousands of workers in the last few years. Back in 2007 they negotiated new labor rates for new hires in 2010 that are LOWER than what the transplants pay workers. Less debt, less workers, less plants adds up to a lower cost structure. Before GM probably needed 17M sales a year to have a chance of breaking even.

GM now has a lower cost of business than Ford. The bankruptcy did all kinds of stuff that Ford is now getting some relief but nowhere near as much.

Time will tell.

Madcap, the C pillar is also similar to the Lucernes, a Buick.

Its price is straight off the Avalon. It may look somewhat like a GS but its sure as hell cheaper.

the corvette is 4 years old. Its interior was OK when it was new.

I see you totally ignored the CTS, SRX, STS, Escalade, Enclave, Lacrosse, Malibu, Acadia, Equinox, etc. when talking about GM’s cheap interiors. How convenient.

Thanks for the link to the JD POWER survey. I didn’t know Buick was tied with Jaguar for the top spot, beating Honda, Nissan and other makes much better known for long term reliability and quality. I stand corrected.

Be that as it may, GM will not be a profitable company with its current structure…ever. They don’t sell enough cars at a profit to be a profitable company. End of story.

@headofmyclass2010

A class leading car is one that exceeds the performance, driving experience, and interior quality of every other car in its segment. The Corvette and G8 come close to being class leaders, but due to GM being run by bean counters, they chose to go cheap on interiors instead of spending another $500 to make them the best.

I would love to be wrong, but the “Ch. 11 Bankruptcy” they went through should have been a house cleaning of all of the dead wood that got them in the mess they’re in. Instead, it was a reshuffling of bad managers at the top of the company. ”

What about Z06, ZR1, Enclave, Malibu, G8, Silverado, Escalade, CTS, Lacrosse, Equinox/Terrain and SRX? Those are vehicles from a company that cannot make class leading products? You sound like an idiot.

GM’s profitablity going forward is based on holding 18% share and sales being over 10M. Thats it. Its not rocket science. They dont need a change of management, they need the economy to pick up just like Toyota and everyone else. Pretty much everyone with any knowledge about their talent level disagrees with your assessment.

Lexus using chrome in the first place is a copy off American makes. Do you think use of chrome on cars originated in Japan? I didn’t.

THose talking about this car being overpriced are idiots. $39k represents a loaded CSX model with almost every option. A loaded Avalon is uglier inside and out and handles worse and tops out at $39k. The Taurus Limited is about $37k fully loaded. Someone said the interior isnt as nice as 5 series but they dont note a BASE 5 series is more than a loaded CXS lacrosse. Equip a 530i like the CXS and you are likely looking at over $50k easily. This car is designed to compete with the ES350, Genesis V6, Taurus Limited and Avalon.

idrin:

You can post 50 more times if you want but the car is still nice. The reviews have been very positive. Only Jalopnik didn’t like it and its hard to take them seriously. You already made it clear you hate GM and its management so you cant be objective. Give it a rest.

“The ‘Japs,’ ‘Krauts’ and now the Koreans are getting they’re revenge for losing the war …”

Korea was on the winning side in WWII.

“by brainwashing EVERYBODY to buy their inferior cars…” Uh, no. Some Japanese, German and even Korean cars are better than some american cars. But I see things as they are, which means I’ll take a pass on the “america sucks” party line.

“but the big three can’t flog their crap anywhere but in the States?”
That’s been discussed at lengyh on this page.

“Americans don’t buy cars based on patriotism anymore.” that’s true.

and your spelling of “labour” shoots a hole in your credibility.

reedfast: “the japanese are like that little girl on the playground in 1st grade who tattled on you every time you tell somebody she has cooties.”

good one.

leftwingagenda: “an accord, on the other hand, was made here by american workers, with american parts (more american parts on a % basis than some ‘domestic’ models), but it has a honda badge…”

That’s one of those gnarly “Buy American” questions.

truckinguy: I won’t point a finger at the UAW, but GM could not afford its labor costs.

The only reason i make a good salary is our (Scandanavian) bosses don’t want us to unionize.

DetroitWatcher: “While corn and Caterpillar equipment may not be as sexy as new cars, the are IMPORTANT to our economy.” Dead true. ny oranges growing in Manitoba?

And the only unions I have a real problem with are the Bearuacrats (sp?) union and the Prison Guards.

DB9: Jim Brown should’ve stayed in the NFL a bit longer.

.

I don’t hate GM, I hate everyone who runs GM! I hate them for taking every possible cheap route to save money when it comes to building a car. I bet GM could build the best car on earth if they wanted to! They just have people who are more worried about making money behind closed doors than they are about the company. I believe things will change soon though…for the better…of GM… I envision the demise of toyota in the near future! Their cockyness will deal them a blow so hard that even they won’t be able to do anything about it! It makes sense really! What is a company, who is known for building a reliable car going to do when they become unsuccessful…kind of like what is going on with them in the US right now? They can’t make things more reliable because they are already one of the most reliable. They can’t bring any new cars, their old cars might come back but they are not a convenient price point. They won’t have many moves to make, unlike GM which is right there next to toyota in sales, but also has many potential moves up their sleeves! Any of this make sense by the way? I gotta stop because I have to start a 10 page essay that is due in T minus…42 hours! Later gang!!

hahaa…I just read the cockyness sentence and realized something…technically speaking, they would be blowing themselves!!! LMFAOROG!!!! AHAHAHHAHAHHHAH!!

To be honest I could never, ever think you would say anything good about a GM product so your comments do not surprise at all. Hopefully the comments from LLN will override your comments as more reputable.