Heart64: You’re a bitter,miserable little man.

At Ford we can do without the Displacement and added weight just pour on the Horsepower and Torque Baby! Oh Yeah! Punk. Another Battle Won!

This car design kind of grows on you – I used to hate it but now I think it was originally way ahead of its time.

For all of you arguing about the CTS vs. 3-Series, the 3-series is smaller and weighs less, same goes for most of the Mercedes you guys are comparing. Regardless, you guys seem to find that it performs the same, if not better than these smaller cars, right? Regardless, I don’t believe any of us have driven it, if they want something fast they’ll buy performance variants.

Yes, I do. The new M3 looks nice, but that power bulge in the hood really looks out of place and tacky, like something Mitsubishi would do when they can’t get the hood closed. The M3 sedan has the same Civic looking taillamps as the rest of the 3-series. The interior is no contest – the CTS’ is much nicer and more modern.

The correct comparison anyway is not the M3, but the 328i sedan.

“A 328 coupe will out pace the 3.5 CTS.
Comment by atourya, posted on March6 at 12:37 pm ”

Considering there is no such thing as a 3.5 CTS, I guess you’re right.

sj79, check out the 1/4 mile data… 0-60 doesn’t show real driving characteristics. Unless you’re a stoplight racer, which is gay. Also, it beat the C55 because of the price redistribution which they always do at the end, if I remember correctly. Look at the track data to see what I mean.

SS4 Life… I’ll believe it when I see it in a more objective platform… again, 0-60 is worthless unless you race on your nearby street corner. What we’re looking for is 1/4 mile times, skidpad, figure 8, take both to laguna seca and see what happens.

Power isn’t everything folks. Mildly modified miatas smoke cars that have over twice the power.

Having good power and a decent 0-60 doesn’t mean good performance by any means.

The CTS-V should be able to get to 60 in the low 4sec range which will be as fast as the much ligher M3 and right on top of the C63. The first CTS-V was just as fast as the old M3 and C55. In fact, it beat the C55 in a C&D comparo in 2005.

I also priced out a new CTS and BMW 328i on BMWUSA.com, and I did my best to try and compare both the RWD BMW 328i with the 3.6 option CTS, and just to get the same level of performance and luxury offerings on both there was a 6-10k difference between what the CTS offers and the BMW 328i sedan offers.

I’m not dogging the BMW 3 series coupe, because I’d too would take a BMW 3 series coupe over a new CTS, I’ll have mine as a 335i white, with the dark red interior please.

But if the old CTS-V was performing similiarly to the new M3 the 09 CTS-V with the 550hp 550lbstrq supercharged LSA will walk over it. performance wise.

15.1 on the quarter with a V6? The C350 has the same displacement and runs a 14.3!!!!

The CTS does not perform well… The CTS-V is very nice, but it still can’t keep up with the M-3 or C63… especially the C63.

the 3 coupe is the only good looking BMW right now IMO. But give me a choice between a 3 coupe and a cts? You can have the CTS, the coupe is mine.

Also… I don’t know if you all noticed, but GM can’t get their performance numbers to match the power, aside from the corvette level. as powerful as the 3.5 is, have you seen how slow it is on the quarter, when compared to the MB 3.5?

A 328 coupe will out pace the 3.5 CTS.