Comments on: Cadillac developing small rear-wheel drive sedan with four-cylinder power for 2011

By: jackjimturkey

jackjimturkey — Sat, 08 Nov 2008 22:32:27 +0000

“The Cadillac Cimarron is widely regarded as one of the worst mistakes in automotive history.” that’s surely an understatement.

Let’s not revisit this ideas.

Maybe if this car has a turbo-4 and isn’t a rebadge ….

brassmonkey: Celebrity probably did more fo toyonda sales than the CamCord ever could. Corsica wasn’t a bad little car, bur it was bland enough. Catera was just not right for this market.

Z06ified: “People who are struggling to pay for gas don’t buy $40k+ Cadillacs. I mean does GM really think potential customers walk into a Cadillac showroom, find they have no 4-cylinders for sale, and walk back out to go shop at a brand who does have 4-cylinders? It doesn’t happen at the luxury level.” Good points.

By: speedemon

speedemon — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 04:03:44 +0000

How much does GM knows about turbocharging??Other than the 231 ci v6 I’d be scared to mess with GM.

By: global_lightning

global_lightning — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:33:22 +0000

As long as the engine is Cadillac-specific, they could pull it off. I’d see a 2.4L version of the LNF, appropriately refined for a luxury car, and 300 ft-lbs of torque from 1500 RPM. And make sure it’s got room under the hood for the 3.6L DI V6 for the traditionalists. Perhaps a Kappa chassis?

By: mazdaman

mazdaman — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 04:18:06 +0000

I think it’s a smart move for Cadillac. They should develop an entire compact line (sedan, coupe, and wagon). They need a proper flagship sedan too, but this product is probably the priority.

Now, if they would only give Pontiac a compact 3-door/5-door based off this platform with styling inspired by the great looking Torana TT 36 Concept, then we would be in business. To me, this sort of product would be more exciting and youthful than anything Scion claims they offer the youth market.

By: bigp

bigp — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 03:00:31 +0000

yes but dont over boost it and will be fine, also use and good 6speed ang will do fine

By: Get Real

Get Real — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 02:26:44 +0000

I WILL NOW PREDICT THE FUTURE—-
Blown head gaskets and huge warrany claims against GM.

By: olds307

olds307 — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:55:12 +0000

If I had to pay to maintain it, or even do the work myself, I’d take a J-body over a BMW any day.

By: kgm777

kgm777 — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:35:08 +0000

It’ll have the variable cylinder mgt. system where the engine runs on only one or two cylinders at 60 mph. Put the DT7 on hold? Idiots. The only thing needing change at GM is its mgt.

By: Z06ified

Z06ified — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:02:20 +0000

I don’t understand this over-hyping of fuel economy. People who are struggling to pay for gas don’t buy $40k+ Cadillacs. I mean does GM really think potential customers walk into a Cadillac showroom, find they have no 4-cylinders for sale, and walk back out to go shop at a brand who does have 4-cylinders? It doesn’t happen at the luxury level.

Rule #1 of marketing and product placement: KNOW YOUR CUSTOMER!!

By: RaineMan

RaineMan — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:55:16 +0000

A 4-banger CTS would probably be a good start. If Mercedes can do it with the C230 why can’t Caddy jump on the bandwagon?

By: mayer_ray_nagin

mayer_ray_nagin — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:40:48 +0000

^ ha! Good one, 1115.

By: tripleonefive

tripleonefive — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:20:13 +0000

^no bc we are not all fat f–ks like you

By: HemiRoadRunner

HemiRoadRunner — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:02:34 +0000

^ hearing, not here

By: HemiRoadRunner

HemiRoadRunner — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:02:11 +0000

Does anybody else get the craving for Cinnamon after here so much about the Cimarron?

By: howsmydriving

howsmydriving — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:50:51 +0000

The thing about Vega is that it was not a mistake from a financial perspective — GM sold tons of ‘em. Cimarron probably made money too.

By: brassmonkey

brassmonkey — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:46:43 +0000

Mistakes? Let’s count:
-Cadillac Cimarron
-Pontiac Aztek
-Chevy Vega
-Chevy Chevette
-Chevy Citation
-Chevy Celebrity
-Chevy Corsica
-Cadillac Catera
etc, etc, etc.

By: howsmydriving

howsmydriving — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:16:44 +0000

GM should bring back Cimarron, Aztec and Vega. And while they’re at it, they should bring back the Geo and Oldsmobile divisions, and start investing more in the Hummer division.

By: Fletch

Fletch — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:09:40 +0000

I get 20/27mpg with my Subaru 2.5L turbo H4 with spirited driving. I’m at STI power levels and I think it’s good fuel economy for AWD and 3400 lbs.

By: tripleonefive

tripleonefive — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:44:01 +0000

Subary WRX STi, Mitsubishi Lancer Evo, Mazda CX-7, Acura RDX, just to name a few.
Most of these vehicles mentioned have turbos

By: johnnycanuck

johnnycanuck — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:32:07 +0000

This is not where Cadillac needs to go. With the uncertain future of the STS and DTS they need to worry about what they’re going to slot above the CTS, not below it. If they’re that curious about how a 4 cyl Caddy would be accepted bolt a slightly tweaked version of the 2.0 turbo in the CTS and see if anyone bites.

By: ktulu

ktulu — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:29:01 +0000

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“The Cadillac Cimarron is widely regarded as one of the worst mistakes in automotive

history.” The only bigger smustake would ve naming this cat yhe Cimarron.

this is a bad idea, but maybe a supercharged 4 qweill softern the blow.

but the can NOT share rthgus plat4m w/ any other ÷

“Who wouldn’t have preferred a rebadged Chevy Caviler to an E30?” exact;y. that’s Y it’s

failure wAs csuch asurprise.

Mazda CX-7 & Acura RDX R suvs, so U don’t expect as good mpg as from a 3 or civic.

By: fuk-u-asshole

fuk-u-asshole — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:25:27 +0000

Cadilliac needs to learn the art that Audi has mastered: charging big bucks for wheezy four cyclinder engines.

Comment by howsmydriving,

if thats the case no one is asking you to buy one.

If caddy does every offer a 3-series,a4 rival it will be no class leader + it would be intended mainly for euro market. BIG FAILURE.
BLS anyone?

By: inline6

inline6 — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:14:14 +0000

BMW can build small cars and no one whispers “Isetta”. The Cimarron was canned 20 years ago. And its problems were that it was a lightly rebadged Cavalier that cost twice as much. It was a really, really dumb decision. A small, RWD turbo 4 Cadillac would work really well today. They should do it.

By: howsmydriving

howsmydriving — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:13:54 +0000

Cadilliac needs to learn the art that Audi has mastered: charging big bucks for wheezy four cyclinder engines.

By: RaineMan

RaineMan — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:10:12 +0000

Hmm… a small Caddy with the LNF… very very interesting.

By: zeeck

zeeck — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:10:10 +0000

wow jumpoffit, that guy looks like he didn’t deserve it anyways, slamming into the car in front of him, oh well

By: Z06ified

Z06ified — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:07:49 +0000

Just because a car has 4-cylinders does not necessarily means it gets good fuel economy. There are endless numbers of turbo 4-bangers that get horrible fuel economy today – Subary WRX STi, Mitsubishi Lancer Evo, Mazda CX-7, Acura RDX, just to name a few. They all average well below 20 MPG, some as low as the mid-teens.

By: jumpoffit

jumpoffit — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:46:43 +0000

interesting………. but i’ll tell you what’s more interesting, take a look at someone who just wrecked their Tesla lol, LLN why haven’t you mentioned this yet?
http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos091/exotics/2tesla_20080729_001.shtml

By: Madcapp

Madcapp — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:43:59 +0000

Ohhhhh, don’t be so mean about the Cimmarron. It was supposed to be a 3 series fighter. Who wouldn’t have preferred a rebadged Chevy Caviler to an E30?