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First Drive: 2010 Cadillac SRX [Review] [Video]

07/09/2009, 12:35 PM

By Chris Doane

Cadillac’s new SRX must be giving people in Detroit neck pains. Spend a few days behind the wheel of General Motors’ latest luxury crossover and you’ll see the same neck-snapping reaction from other drivers intent on getting a look at the stylish new Caddy.

Initially, they are drawn to the SRX’s wedge-like, aggressive styling. Then they notice the large Cadillac wreath and crest logo on the grill. That’s when heads tilt to one side and confusion sets in as they realize this is not a Cadillac they’ve ever seen before.

Their slanted gaze continues to follow the SRX as they make their way through the intersection and facial expressions suggest they’re impressed. Right up until the moment that the gawkers run into the back of the car in front of them.

(Fine, that last part didn’t happen, but the rest did.)

Even GM’s mid-morning presentation to us media folk in downtown Birmingham, Michigan, brought out several interested eavesdroppers as the General’s engineers explained the SRX’s new features. Had there been order forms available, the first 10 units would’ve certainly been spoken for.

Gunning for Lexus
Listen to GM execs talk about the new SRX for 10 minutes and it becomes clear whose party they want to crash: The Lexus RX – and With good reason. Through June, Lexus almost 40,000 copies of its mid-size luxury ‘ute, an impressive figure for a down market and definitely a cookie jar GM wants its hand in.

When compared to the old SRX, the entire 2010 model could be considered a breakthrough. This all new, second-generation SRX swaps the tall station wagon look of the first generation for a mid-size SUV bodystyle. The SRX is the first vehicle to hit the road rolling on GM’s new front-wheel-drive based (all-wheel-drive optional) Theta Premium chassis, which will also eventually underpin the Saab 9-4x.

High-tech
Under its hood, GM’s all-new 3.0-liter, direct injected V6 makes its debut under the SRX’s hood. It boasts 265 horsepower and is capable of 25 mpg (with front-wheel-drive.) It’s the only motor that will be available when the car goes on sale shortly, but if you can manage to wait just a few months, a 2.8-liter, turbo-charged V6 with 300 horses will be available. This is the same motor we’ve enjoyed in the Saab 9-3 Aero.

Another piece of kit we know from Saab, the Haldex all-wheel-drive system, has also found its way into the SRX. Given how well this system performed in the Turbo X, we’ve got no problem with the SRX’s partial Swedish heritage, especially since the platform will spawn the 9-4x later this year as the soon-to-be Koenigsegg-owned Saab enters a GM-based product renaissance.

The other trick system in the new SRX is the “FE3” adaptive suspension system. If you’re thinking this is the magnetic suspension system found in the Cadillac CTSv, think again. The system in the SRX, made by ZF Sachs AG, is a continuously variable damping system. What that means is that the car is constantly monitoring the road conditions and continually adjusts the resistance and speed of travel in the suspension system by varying the flow of oil in through the shock absorber tubes. One minute the dampers on the SRX will absorb a Rhode Island-sized pothole, the next minute those same dampers are firmed up through a hard right-hander at 50mph.

The Rx to kill an RX
If GM wants to pick a fight with the Lexus, their timing is perfect: Both models are brand new, but in our opinion, the Caddy soundly destroys the Lexus in styling. .

Unlike the RX, which looks uncomfortable in its own skin with its awkward stance, the SRX is aggressive and sporty.

The Caddy is adorned with all kinds of angular lines and hard-edged sculpting. If SUVs can be sexy, this is it.

The SRX even has a modern day interpretation of the tailfins Cadillac was known for in the 1950s. Inside these “tailfin” taillights, a thin light tube runs top to bottom, illuminated by one LED that makes for a sleek running light as dusk approaches. A similar light tube runs through the headlight cluster. While both are very cool to look at near sunset, it would be nice if they were as bright as Audi’s LED daytime running lights.

Familiar inside
Not to sound like a broken record, but when you look at the interiors of the SRX and the RX, one has a pleasing design and one doesn’t. The Lexus has one of the more bizarre center stacks we’ve seen, with rounded-off triangle shaped panel atop the console. It also has a dash with a few odd lines, the result of the integrated navigation screen. A ho-hum gauge cluster tops things off.

On the Cadillac side, the interior looks familiar. That’s because several parts of the interior borrow heavily from the Cadillac CTS sedan. A very appealing, modern center stack is outlined in aluminum-like trim with lots of angles and large air vents. Above that, you find the pop-up navigation screen from the CTS. While that navigation system is very easy to use with the touch screen, we find it more than a little funny that the system asks you to “please obey all traffic regulations” once your destination is entered. How about 5 mph over?

Moving to the gauge cluster, you find our favorite element, the LCD Driver Info Center. A round, full color, crystal clear LCD screen inside the speedometer shows you fuel economy, fuel range, tire pressure, oil life and speed in addition to other bits of information. It also indicates the speed limit of the road you’re currently driving on, a handy feature for when you spot an officer of the law ahead and there isn’t a speed limit sign in sight to tell if you’re in offender territory.

Almost everything you touch on the dash, console and door panels is soft and you’ll also find elegant stitching across the dash. While the seat bottoms are comfortable, the seat backs are a touch on the firm side, in our opinion. Fit and finish on the inside was largely impressive on our pilot production vehicle, though the quality of the leather wasn’t impressive; GM could have spent a few more bucks here.

We also have a gripe with the location of the door lock buttons on the center stack, which should have remained on the doors – and you won’t want to put anything in the storage compartments between the front seats or in the glovebox. The super-cheap, black fuzzy fabric that lines these compartments sheds worse that a four-legged Persian.

Power-everything is the order of the day, with power-folding mirrors, height-programmable tailgate, pedals, sunroof shade and the massive UltraView sunroof itself. Only the steering wheel misses out on power adjustment. A back-up camera as well as front and rear sensors will make sure you don’t trade paint in the parking lot.

Let’s roll
Combine the Haldex All-wheel-drive with the “FE3” suspension and the SRX starts to handle and feel a little like, dare we say, an Audi. Normally when you point the average crossover vehicle into a corner at brisk speed, you can expect a nice dose of body roll and less-than-stellar road gripping ability.

In “sport” mode, the SRX defies all that. Body roll and pitch is kept to a minimum and lateral grip is there long after we’d expect to be in the ditch. The AWD does an exceptional job of rotating the rear end of the car through the corner.

GM’s new 3.0-liter will give you almost all the power you want, but we felt like it was a little slow getting back on the go at the exit of corners. GM says the final engine tune was still being worked on when our press preview car was built and while that may alleviate some of the problem, you could always opt for the 2.8-liter V6 turbocharged motor with 35 more horsepower. Our hand-timed 0-60 runs with the 3.0-liter netted a roughly 9 second result. On the opposite side of the spectrum, highway cruising produced a 22.5mpg average.

The six-speed Hydramatic transmission clicked off fairly smooth shifts most of the time, however during sport driving, some of the downshifts were a bit on the rough side. In general, we also felt like the pause between gears was a bit too long at times.

Brakes were very strong and the car tracked straight ahead during repeated, hard stops.

The SRX is a very polite vehicle – nearly whispering quiet. Road and wind noise have been reigned in quite well as the result of triple door seals and lots of sound insulation inside the engine compartment. The ride is very smooth, absorbing most bumps and cracks with almost no trauma.

A smooth, luxury ride is very hard to get if you want great handling too. With the SRX, you get both thanks to the “FE3” suspension. Now we just need a better name for that option, and maybe one for the SRX, which sounds rather like RX.

Leftlane’s bottom line
GM finally has a luxury crossover vehicle that not only competes with the Lexus RX, but very well may beat it. Did we mention it’s more than $2,500 less than the Lexus and offers more features?

Best in class styling and great handling characteristics are what the SRX offers and what GM needs to win over the general public.

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07/09, 12:48 PM

posted by:

SoCalFiveO

look its the acura MDX

07/09, 12:53 PM

posted by:

Donfuy

The front looks quite fat in the front 3/4 pictures. And the interior… doesn’t quite amuse me.

Can I compare this to a Volvo XC60, and say right away that the Volvo wins, specially in interiors?

07/09, 12:53 PM

posted by:

idrinorbarsaku

the new srx and equinox look really good, haven’t driven one yet, but the insides look good, unless you get the base equinox!

07/09, 12:54 PM

posted by:

idrinorbarsaku

Donfuy,
really? the xc60 wins? I think it looks boring as a flat white wall!

07/09, 12:55 PM

posted by:

A4

The sad part is more idiots will probably continue to buy the RX.

07/09, 12:57 PM

posted by:

idrinorbarsaku

This is the level of craftsmanship I want to be found throughout the GM lineup of vehicles!

07/09, 1:01 PM

posted by:

pavlindrom

I wonder how easy it is to repair anything under the hood. I don’t like the idea of trusting a dealer with such an investment. My sister wanted an SRX and now I guess I’ll allow her to buy this new one. The old one was already dated.

07/09, 1:05 PM

posted by:

leftwingagenda

nice review, lln, i’m digging the video…and nice vehicle, gm!

07/09, 1:12 PM

posted by:

iluvamcars

I’m ready for this. But lets be clear, it won’t freally compete with the XC60, because it is a mid size, so think of the mid size offerings.

07/09, 1:21 PM

posted by:

CADDY-V

This thing is nice. You got to see it in person to really know.

07/09, 1:24 PM

posted by:

johnnycanuck

Thanks, but I’ll wait for the new Grand Cherokee. Not because there’s much wrong with this Caddy, but they’ve really gone and dressed this up to appeal to the fairer sex. It’s like road jewelery, you know, purse dog stuff. I’m picturing these parked in front of real estate open houses and ladies only gyms. Again don’t get me wrong this is going to sell, but I foresee most being registered in ‘her’ name.

07/09, 1:26 PM

posted by:

Bankruptcy2009

Ok To show that I am not totally Biased against GM this is actually the first interior that is worth a look at, but I am not saying its the only act in Town. THe RX350 is the standard, and now Lincoln has the MKT I will reserve my judgement for later. But I am sure the MKT may Trump the SRX.
Lincoln what a Luxury CUV should be!

07/09, 1:40 PM

posted by:

Payton Byrd

It amazes me how many “people” on this site immediately dump on anything GM. It’s like it would kill them to admit that GM is not only capable of making great vehicles, but they are doing so as well.

07/09, 1:51 PM

posted by:

Impulsive

Aesthetically, the RX is rungs below this SRX, inside and out. OBJECTIVE FACT.

07/09, 2:03 PM

posted by:

v0v0

awful music in the video.

07/09, 2:24 PM

posted by:

A4

Hi My Name is Bankruptcy and Someone taught me That it is a Smart Idea to Capitalize random words In A Sentence.

07/09, 2:40 PM

posted by:

Ring-Taxi

Being late to the party, it had better be at least mid-pack competitive.

07/09, 2:51 PM

posted by:

netguru2000

Having Chrysler HQs in the background of this video is slightly humorous.

07/09, 2:52 PM

posted by:

Lariat Luxury Locomotive Liner No.3

Audi is the path to go if you want a vehicle in this category. The GM SRX will retain little to no residual value. I do support that Lexus is so damn ugly on both inside and the out that I would not consider one.

07/09, 3:09 PM

posted by:

JakeK66

HAHAHA JohnnyC for the win! I could never heard anything I’ve agreed with more than that!

A4 – so true on both posts – stupid BK2009 and RX owners. I still would take the Q5 even though it costs more.

07/09, 3:22 PM

posted by:

cocojoe53

Its hard not to dump on GM. I am still angry about them dumping the G8….I saw another yesterday. Best looking sedan they make. I am a Ford guy, but to me it looks better ten the new Taurus. The SRX??? Again, just another “Stationwagon”

07/09, 3:25 PM

posted by:

teddyc73

Its hard to believe anyone would choose the frumpy, bulbous, Hyundia Veracruz knock off Lexus RS over the SRX.

07/09, 3:25 PM

posted by:

reedfast

sorry, but this caddy styling doesn’t work for me, it makes the vehicles too fat and ugly.

07/09, 3:45 PM

posted by:

tripleonefive

How much money did GM pay for this endorsement ?
The RX interior is superb and Lexus has already done the sloping dash so it was time for them to move on to another style of center stack. Caddy and GM have just discovered sloping dashes in all of their cars so excuse me for not being impressed with something the Japanese were doing 14 years ago
I will say this is a good effort by GM and they are doing the right thing by pricing it lower than the comp , something Ford doesnt seem to want to do. It shoudl sell well just not as well as the RX or the MDX

07/09, 4:13 PM

posted by:

Payton Byrd

“I will say this is a good effort by GM and they are doing the right thing by pricing it lower than the comp , something Ford doesnt seem to want to do. It shoudl sell well just not as well as the RX or the MDX”

Don’t you mean something that Ford doesn’t need to do? I’d take a Flex over any of these any day of the week.

07/09, 4:22 PM

posted by:

theColbertNation

@ teddyc73: I actually agree, but that might have something to do with people being terrified of bad resale prices, which Lexus and Toyota seem to be largely immune to. However, this just shows the “sheeple” (lovely word btw) don’t pay attention: the new CTS holds its value with the best… why? Because it’s a nice car – a car people actually want to own. I’m betting if you ask the people that buy the new RX why they chose it over the new SRX, they will cite (expected) resale value and (expected) cost of ownership, but will admit the SRX destroys the RX on styling.

@ 1115: I agree that sloped dashes are old news, but I tend to think that the devil is in the details with these things…ergonomics and aesthetics may change with the times and technologies but symmetry and visual balance do not. Also, I’m curious why Lexus chose to pattern the RX’s dash off of the last generation Ford Focus’s dash… it didn’t look particularly good in that car either, but the Focus isn’t a $40k+ car….

@JakeK66: Totally agree on the Q5. Less estrogen in the ventilation.

07/09, 4:22 PM

posted by:

sj79

“It amazes me how many “people” on this site immediately dump on anything GM. It’s like it would kill them to admit that GM is not only capable of making great vehicles, but they are doing so as well.”

Half the people who post here fall into that category. Led by the chief moron- triple on 5.

The Rx deserves to slide in sales because the exterior design is stale and the interior is bizarre. Lexus is resting on their laurels and eventually they will regret it.

“How much money did GM pay for this endorsement ?”

Less than Honda or BMW pay Car and Driver for its endorsements. How naive can you be when you assume any positive review of an excellent American product is the result of payola. Cadillac makes nice vehicles these days- it started a while ago. Join us in 2009.

No Japanese interior from 15 years ago looked this good. The interior of the initial RX from 1999 looks like a straight up Toyota by today’s standards.

The MDX doesnt even sell well, the Enclave outsellls it every single month. Enclave sales were up last month while the MDX was down 30-40% as usual. Get a grip on reality.

07/09, 4:35 PM

posted by:

Impulsive

Ignore the import chimp … as usual. As worthless as they come.

The interior of the SRX is better than ANY interior of ANY Toyota vehicle EVER. The fact that Toyota tried the aesthetically pleasing SYMMETRICAL design, as mentioned, and FAILED to make it this good only goes to show how good GM has done here.

Just more OBJECTIVE FACT that cannot be refuted.

07/09, 5:08 PM

posted by:

mayer_ray_nagin

I think to really make this a distinctive and desirable vehicle they need to make the logo green. I just would never consider buying a car without a green logo …. oh yeah, and that LCD in the speedo needs to sport a big Obama O symbol (the one with the sun setting on the colors of the US flag) so I am constantly reminded about who stole the company that built the vehicle to pay off his political constituents.

And I want the nav system to wish me a happy happy joy joy day every time I turn the key.

07/09, 5:27 PM

posted by:

JakeK66

All BS aside, this is the best looking Caddy now IMO. I still think it’s not for my sex – but it’s got better lines than the CTS – whose front end looks like a train’s cow catcher to me.

07/09, 5:55 PM

posted by:

aggie531

i think that the back end looks bad imo. same with the headlights. but the interior is great. 7/10

07/09, 6:43 PM

posted by:

andy

with this, the new CTS and upcoming CTS coupe, and the DTS/STS replacement (as long as its not fwd), Caddy is really putting together a top notch line up… im really hoping for a CTS-V coupe aswell, maybe a hard top version aswell

07/09, 7:47 PM

posted by:

anyclearer

this is pretty nice, and think its great they kept the bigass sunroof, deff a good selling point.

07/09, 8:29 PM

posted by:

DB9

Nice rig – well done. If it’s the same Haldex system (Haldex4) as in the Saab then I would think that it is similar to the LR2 and XC60. Suspension sounds like it would give the Q5 a run… Hmmm… From the reviews that I’ve read, LLN yours seems to agree, the standard engine, while technically first rate, is a little weak in the torque department. I would like to read/dive the turbo.

A great show down: the SRX 2.8T AWD; the Q5 and the XC60 T6 & XC60R. Looks like it might be worth the wait. I still prefer a tall wagon style…

DB9;-)

PS. LLN – excellent job on the video. One of the few that looks excellent in full screen HD – well done, keep it up!

07/09, 10:16 PM

posted by:

DrFill

C&D liked it, but lamented it’s ham-ass (4400 lbs) and struggling engine
The RX has been the best for a decade, so it will take more than this to change that

I like it, but it’s not ready to lead just yet
If I were Acura, I’d be in a panic
DrFill

07/09, 11:01 PM

posted by:

aggie531

^^ true about Acura. they (and no one else except for nmofgm) have never taken Cadillac for serious. but… what will this compete with? the RDX? the RDX is not a great seller and neither are competitors so whats the point?

07/09, 11:07 PM

posted by:

aggie531

^^ cant compete with MDX. SRX has no 3rd row seat and is not large enough

07/09, 11:23 PM

posted by:

Architect

Stunning vehicle. Either this SRX or the Enclave will be my wife’s new vehicle in the next 6 months. It would be the SRX hands-down if it had 3 rows…the size of the Enclave may win out.

07/10, 12:21 AM

posted by:

Bankruptcy2009

Impulsive spoken like a true GM diehard. Their is nothing unasthetically unpleasing about the RX350 it works together quite fluidly and looks good in its sexy sheet metal.
Now you want to pick on an true Ugly Ducking lets talk Pontiac Aztec..Hmmm I guess that is why they got dumped GM had no clue what to do with Olds now Pontiac. But wait their more Garbage Brands to put on in GM’s Trash Cans. I think the next to go will be GMC and Buick. So there you have it Chevy and Cadillac that’s it!. Lets look at the previous SRX and not saying the grill on this SRX is Boring. Plus the fact that the MKT is so Beautiful and Luxurious it will be easy to pick Lincoln in this category of Luxury CUV’s

07/10, 12:52 AM

posted by:

steve333

The music in the video makes me want to tear my own eardrums out.

07/10, 10:24 AM

posted by:

A4

I wouldn’t take a Q5 over this unless it had a 2.0T, the 3.2 is a boring, overpriced engine.

07/10, 12:27 PM

posted by:

sj79

“Their is nothing unasthetically unpleasing about the RX350 it works together quite fluidly and looks good in its sexy sheet metal.”

you cannot be serious. The styling has barely changed since the 1999 model and the interior is a disaster. The assymetrical design is all wrong. Then again, considering how dumb the rest of your post was I shouldnt be surprised that you would say something so ridiculous.

07/10, 12:39 PM

posted by:

TornadoGTI

This is a valid attempt for GM. It will not beat out the Q5, GLK, and XC60. Those are the leaders in the class but it should fair well with the rest. The VERY DATED X3, LR2, Lincold MKT is FUGLY, and the super boring RX350. Don’t let us forget the Acura RDX and the Infiniti EX35. Those are both ugly as well.

I would say that even though GM is aiming right at the RX350, it is sized more like an MDX. That will likely be a large cross shopped vehicle in the SRX class.

@A4 – the only way I would prefer the 2.0T over the 3.2 in the Q5 is if it was tuned the same way the TTS is tuned. 207 hp in a vehicle this size would just be anemic. It would not work. I say keep, but revise, the 3.2 and offer the 3.0T (supercharged) as an optional engine. Keep in mind, the 2.0T is a very peaky engine that wouldn’t suit SUV drivers. You couldn’t tow crap with that engine. I say leave it to the Europeans and the sports/sporty cars.

07/10, 1:05 PM

posted by:

Impulsive

‘Bankruptcy2009′, please provide any reference to me being a GM diehard, you worthless piece of dung. The FACT that this vehicle makes the RX look like a Chinese product is something YOUR bias, towards a FAILURE, quite obvious.

You have made clear as day your worthlessness with respect to OBJECTIVE judgement … the RX is unattractive, in and out. Your comments here are utterly ridiculous and wrong. Fortunately, there are enough intelligent people to laugh at, ridicule and ignore your garbage.

You are intellectually BANKRUPT, loser.

07/10, 1:39 PM

posted by:

ricky_b

I really hope this is not a Lexus RX killer. Reason:

Lexus RX really appeals to more mature affluent women. It’s about luxury, style and COMFORT.

Cadillac should be about luxury but with a sporty bad-boy edge. I hope they tuned and tweaked it to perform more like an Infinit EX, Acura RDX or Audi Q5. Take those corners, baby!

Having said that, I really like the exterior lines. Inside… spank-me sexy.

07/10, 2:15 PM

posted by:

tripleonefive

No Japanese interior from 15 years ago looked this good. The interior of the initial RX from 1999 looks like a straight up Toyota by today’s standards.
-Yes Toyota has moved their interior standards upwards and Lexus has moved up even further so I agree with that stmnt. THe FACT is the Japanese had the sloping dashes in most of their products in the mid to late 90’s and GM is playing catch up

I dont have the sales figures on the Enclave vs the MDX but with cloth seats and rebates the Enclave may very well outsell the MDX. The MDX is around 50k bc its superior SH AWD and quality. Many people (like yourself) don’t care about real proven quality they just want their car to run for 90 days and they want the company making the car to be “restructured” and HOPE that they make better cars then previously made. They are fooled by fancy marketing and sloping dashes from 15 years ago. The people who are not like you cant be fooled and if they can afford it they spend the money on the better vehicle which is the MDX. Im not even going to bother to say the rest…..

The interior of the SRX is better than ANY interior of ANY Toyota vehicle EVER. Objective?? Fact ?? Please its silly opinion from a domestic humper who is desperate for American car companies to succeed

Ford Hocus dash ? Huh ?http://www.strikeengine.com/ford_focus_rs/Ford_Focus_RS_interior.jpg

2010 Lexus RX dash- http://l.yimg.com/dv/izp/lexus_rx_350_awd_2010_dashboard_dashboard.jpg
I dont see any similarities You can even tell by the pics the Lexus quality and the Ford cheap plastics

07/10, 2:18 PM

posted by:

Impulsive

OBJECTIVE FACT, monkey … you’re too stupid and worthless to even understand … more FACT.

07/10, 2:45 PM

posted by:

tripleonefive

Name calling will get you nowhere Impulsive however providing solid evidence to support objective “fact” lol will Ill be waiting for you to provide some

07/10, 3:32 PM

posted by:

Impulsive

You have no OBJECTIVE taste in vehicles … FACT.

07/10, 3:55 PM

posted by:

zeegone

impulsive- your objective and subjective in caps lock statements got old the second you were born. Get something new as you obviously don’t know how to use those sophisticated words properly. You’ve proven to everyone on this post trying to have a normal conversation about cars that you’re a person of zero taste, in things in general and just your plain old self.

07/10, 5:13 PM

posted by:

Impulsive

You’re an idiot … ‘begone’. If you had any brains you’d know FACT from shiat like what most others post here, including your worthless crap. Jealousy is not a good quality to have, dolt. Try again.

07/10, 6:02 PM

posted by:

A.J.

The exterior design of the new SRX totally beats the stuffing out of the RX.
I think the interior designs are at a stalemate. The RX has better features and ergonomics, but form follows function. The SRX doesn’t have as many goodies (such as the remote-touch interface), but is a simpler, cleaner design that IMO looks easier to live with.

Now, 1115 and Impulsive, don’t be talking about reliability/quality just yet – the new SRX rides on a completely new platform, so there is no sort of reliability/quality history on this car as of yet.

Oh, and before ANYONE compares the SRX’s NAME to the RX: The original SRX was intended to be a wagon-ish version of the STS sedan. IMO, I think they should’ve changed the name, but I think Honda has the CRX name trademarked…

07/10, 6:35 PM

posted by:

tripleonefive

The exterior design of the RX is better Its lines are flowing and smooth and not wedgy and boxy like Caddy. The Caddy was designed with an etch a sketch The RX interior much like the original RX is ahead of its time

Now, 1115 and Impulsive, don’t be talking about reliability/quality just yet – the new SRX rides on a completely new platform, so there is no sort of reliability/quality history on this car as of yet.
–Exactly the RX is a PROVEN reliable long term vehicle and the SRX is NOT! Based on the history of the two companies and their products the SRX is unreliable and will have low resale and the RX IS reliable and will have a high resale value and better quality. Until this new SRX is out for a term of 10 plus years and has proven its worth to be on par with the Lexus, it is unreliable.
If you take a look at the new CTS in Edmunds the durability is less than stellar so it’s more than likely going to be the case with this SRX bc they basically have the same interior and an engine in common..
This SRX is nice for a GM but that is not saying much but to compare it to a proven vehicle like the RX and say its better or even equal is ridiculous
The domestic humpers know this but they want GM and Ford to succeed so badly they ignore the facts

07/10, 6:47 PM

posted by:

Impulsive

‘A.J.’, I only post FACTS so I cannot, at this point in time, comment on reliability … BUT I can say that the import chimp continues posting worthless crap … The SRX is a better looking vehicle, in and out, than the Chinese looking RX … just more FACT.

07/10, 7:50 PM

posted by:

A.J.

Sheesh! I hate to spread so much controversy…and I’m no import-humper if that’s what you’re inferring…but then again I haven’t seen reliability studies of the 2010 RX either. It IS a 2010, after all. Proven reliability doesn’t mean anything when you redesign a vehicle from the ground up – it’s a clean slate, for better or worse. Yes, the CTS had issues with Edmunds, but the average consumer doesn’t drive 25,000 MILES in a year like Edmunds did…

…but the new RX looks pure Lexus and fits in nicely in with the JAPANESE (not Chinese) brand’s portfolio. If I were in the market I would consider both the Lexus and Cadillac – but I’d have to drive both of them back to back to decide. Judging from what LLN said about the drive (great video review, by the way), I think I’d choose the SRX…for better or worse. I just enjoy driving.

07/10, 8:55 PM

posted by:

DrFill

First things first
The RX is The Icon, the zen-like master, the Daddy of this segment, due to 10 years of awesomeness
Haters keep hating
Those facts will not change

I DON’T like the newest RX, but it has enough goods, and brand equity, to sell twice what the SRX will get, no problem

Most here do not factor, or know, brand equity is the X-factor in car sales
At the end of the day a buyers previous experience with a model, or brand, or the vehicles reputation overall, will close the deal
Brand equity allows this RX to be not quite as crisp as the last one, maybe not be head and shoulders above the rest, but still get the sale because of what it represents to the customer/market

Whether you like it, or you don’t like it, learn to LOVE it
Because it’s the best thing goin’ today!
WOOOOOOOOOOO!
DrFill

07/10, 9:08 PM

posted by:

jayjc08

tripleonefive- Show me your drawing of this with an etch a sketch and I’ll be content.

Ignoring the rest of the chimps comments, of which you guys focus too much on, I like this vehicle aside from it’s very obvious shortfalls- cheap leather and carpet. Can’t get much more basic than those two, and if the final vehicle has problems such as that… then GM hasn’t learned much.

Other than that and the heavy bulk of the vehicle, looks great!

07/10, 9:13 PM

posted by:

zeegone

Well said DrFill, the RX is a very tough competitor indeed, I hope the best for this new Caddy though, it’s bringing a lot to the table.

Impulsive you are too funny for words, poor guy/chick…whatever.

07/10, 9:30 PM

posted by:

tripleonefive

I dont know if you read my previous post and if you did you must be slow or something.
The Camrys and Accords and in this case the Rx’s of the world have already proven themselves through the years. They have many model changes and care built by companies that build reliable, dependable vehicles with high resale values therefore the RX is already proven.
The SRX is built on a new platform from a company with the exact opposite of what I stated earlier so like the Malibu this SRX is UNPROVEN and has an uphill battle in proving long term reliability.

The CTS was bad in the durability dept according to Edmunds and that a “New GM” product. Being that both vehicles are similar iin many ways II predict the same for the SRX.

No the average driver wont drive their car 25,000 but the average driver also holds on to their car for more than 90 days and you believe JD powers, an MR company don’t you ?

If you choose the SRX then fine but don’t dare say its equal to the RX in any way that’s all

07/10, 11:25 PM

posted by:

Impulsive

Whether or not a company like Nike sells many times more shoes because of its history than a competitor means SQUAT to someone like me … an ugly pair of shoes is still an ugly pair of shoes. A history of unattractive vehicles, with marginally better quality, in no way is a selling feature to me. Ugly is ugly and I will not pay for ugly … especially considering the FACT that these ugly vehicles, especially the Chinese-like RX, were MARGINALLY better.

I’m not in the market for this type of vehicle but if I was, without a doubt, the RX wouldn’t be, nor ever would have been, a consideration. This SRX is MUCH more attractive inside and out … FACT. And since the quality issue is a moot point, it’s a no-brainer that those with taste would choose this ride.

07/11, 3:33 AM

posted by:

DrFill

Well………….you are wrong, and that’s ok.
The RX has been a smash hit since day one because it looks good, is luxurious and well-made, and has great company behind it
The new one loses some appeal, but still has a great resume, and will still sell twice what the competition can

Most buyers aren’t as intensely shallow as you.
The RX beauty is much more than skin deep
People who drive it, buy it
Deal with it
DrFill

07/11, 11:19 AM

posted by:

sj79

“Yes Toyota has moved their interior standards upwards and Lexus has moved up even further so I agree with that stmnt. THe FACT is the Japanese had the sloping dashes in most of their products in the mid to late 90’s and GM is playing catch up”

What the hell are you talking about? The Interior of the first RX was barely superior to Toyotas of that era and it certainly looks like a Toyota interior in retrospect. Even so that first model has nothing to do with the current ugly interior on the 2010 version, its the worst Lexus interior I’ve seen except for the cheap plastic interior of the first IS300. The only people fooled by the current RX interior are Toyota loyalists who wont buy anything but Lexus. furthermore, Lexus barely changed the styling so most people cant tell the difference between the new and old model. GM hasn’t been playing catch up with Toyota’s in interior design since the 80s. Toyota interiors have never been best in class and they still are not today. Lexus makes nice interiors from a materials standpoint but their designs are stale compared to Audi and Cadillac. Until the RX came out Lexus had barely changed their interior design theme since 1989. They finally changed it and it was a mistake. Toyota is run by engineers, not designers and its evident when you look at their final product.

Drfill:

You continue to show how little you know. I bet you said the SAME thing when GM launched the Lambdas to take on the Highlander and Pilot. Here’s a newsflash: Traverse is outselling the Highlander (established product from great company) and is only a few units behind the Pilot. If you add in other lambdas GM has the lead of course. Those on top to not stay on top forever, just ask the Taurus. BTW, the Escape is also outselling the RAV4 this year even though the Toyota has been around longer and typically is the best selling or 2nd best selling small SUV.

07/11, 11:31 AM

posted by:

sj79

Drfill:

Another thing you fail to grasp is that the RX has few direct competitors. The X5, MDX and Enclave have three rows. The X3 has two rows but is RWD and focused on drivers who want sportiness. That basically leaves the ML350, MKX (2 years old), NEW Q5 and NEW SRX as direct 5 seat competitors. You will dominate a segment if you aren’t being challenged directly. The RX is the most established name in the 5 seat luxury crossover class but times will change, trust me. Just because you use more polish than Triple on idiot I suppose we are supposed to not notice you are a biased import brand apologist who basically says “import brands are always superior” and fails to note parity when it exists. YOu try to offer somewhat reasonable commentary but in the end you always come back to defend import brands and you NEVER admit that any domestic product is superior. Or if you know you are losing that argument you try and hide behind who has the better reputation or resale value. Typical import fanboy cop out arguments. Now you are saying the RX isnt the best vehicle, but it will sell the most. The Impala outsells a lot of cars- doesnt mean its better than those cars.

“The SRX is built on a new platform from a company with the exact opposite of what I stated earlier so like the Malibu this SRX is UNPROVEN and has an uphill battle in proving long term reliability.

The CTS was bad in the durability dept according to Edmunds and that a “New GM” product. Being that both vehicles are similar iin many ways II predict the same for the SRX.”

Triple on stupid:

The Malibu is proven, its been around as a FWD sedan since 1997. I’ve never heard of any major reliability issues with the car since then. CR has always rated it at least average and the current model is recommended. Even the old car was reliable, it just wasnt stylish The CTS on IL was hardly unreliable. It never broke down or experienced a mechanical failure. The issues were a faulty turn signal, occasional nav glitches and some interior squeaks. HArdly unreliable to any sane person. If you bothered to read what they wrote in its entirety (which you didn’t) you would have noticed they said some cars are so good that a few blemishes cannot dull your enthusiasm for the car. The CTS was one such car. You need to get a dictionary and look up “unreliable” and get a handle on what it means. Since you read IL so much I’m sure you know that their Fit busted its reverse gear and had to be towed from a parking lot. Did you miss that?

“f you choose the SRX then fine but don’t dare say its equal to the RX in any way that’s all”

Its equal in features, looks better, costs less, has equal interior quality and handles better. RX has one advantage- acceleration but that will change in the fall when the 300hp version comes on line and gives the SRX class leading hp and torque. It must be hard work being as pompous and ignorant as you are. I cant believe you call yourself and enthusiast and you spend your time defending mediocre vehicles like the RX. Do you work for Toyota? What did they do for you? Did someone from GM hurt your family? I Do want to know how you ended up sounding like such a bitter fool?

07/11, 11:34 AM

posted by:

sj79

Triple stupid:

One other thing, if you go to ALG’s site it ranks the Malibu in the same category (3 stars) as Camry and ES350 for resale value. The fact that so many Toyota and LExus mdoels are in the 3 star category blows up your tired arguments about Toyota products having far superior resale value to American products. CAmry s projected to hold 47% of value over 3 years vs 45% for Malibu. Dont shoot the messenger.

jayc08:

They never said cheap carpet, they said they didnt like the material inside the storage bins. I doubt most owners would care.

07/11, 12:20 PM

posted by:

armstealer

…hydramatic…systematic…

07/11, 12:50 PM

posted by:

DrFill

Sj
You bring up an interesting issue in the positioning of vehicles, one that I noticed when the Traverse came out last year

The Traverse does outsell Highlander by a small amount, as does BMW outsell Lexus.
This is news!
Personally, I LOVE the Lambda crossovers, so I don’t really have a problem with them doing well.
IF you make a strong product, you should be rewarded.

The problem is this is NOT a reflection on Highlander, in this case, for two reasons.

One, GM is deftly seguing out of the full-size SUV BOF dependent market (Tahoe), and using the Lambdas as their volume vehicles.
GM is sacrificing the Tahole so the Lambdas can take them forward from here on out, a great move.
If you’ll notice, the Tahole used to sell well over 100k units every year, approaching 150k.
Sales are now down to about 65k for the year
In effect, Traverse is taking Tahoe sales, not Highlander sales
It’s a shell game

Funny thing is Toyota is doing the same thing with the Venza
HIghlander sales are down 20k this year because of the Venza

The only thing I DON’T like about the Lambdas is GM’s marketing them as direct competitors against Pilot and Highlander
These vehicles are MUCH larger than the imports, much larger than the Tahoe, similar in size to the Expedition
This is an example of indirect competition.
Same price, different class
The Lamdas are FULL-SIZED Crossovers, the first of their kind
Pilots and HL are MID-SIZED crossovers
Big difference!

LIke the luxury SUVs you mentioned.
An X3 or X5 will never sell with a Lexus RX.
If BMW made a 50th vehicle, an X4, and got rid of the other two, then maybe they’d make a dent.

BTW, BMW outsells Lexus because they are throwing vehicle after vehicle into the market until they do (X6, 1-series, 3-series wagons and GT)

If other companies aren’t going directly after the RX, after a decade, that tells you something, doesn’t it?
DrFill

07/11, 12:59 PM

posted by:

Impulsive

The RX is ugly, in and out … FACT .. deal with with it, fool.

Living in the past, like the import chimp, proves you are in denial, fool.

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

07/11, 2:36 PM

posted by:

zigzywno

I have to say, the car is gorgeous, but what’s with the cheap plastic trim that runs along the bottom? Why the heck would you put that on a luxury car, and on a Cadillac no less?

07/12, 12:14 PM

posted by:

sj79

DrFill

Stop the excuses. For the same money GM’s crossovers offer more hp and space and slightly better efficiency than the Pilot. GM looked at the competition and decided to make something larger. That doesnt mean the lambdas dont compete with the Pilot or Highlander- it merely means they offer usable 3rd row seats for the same money. GM’s largest crossovers compete with the largest crossovers from Toyota and Honda and Ford. The Ford Flex is smaller than the lambdas as well but it comes with them because it has 3 rows and overlaps them in price.

07/12, 12:17 PM

posted by:

zoomzoomer

“In philosophy, an objective fact means a truth that remains true everywhere, independently of human thought or feelings. For instance, it is true always and everywhere that ‘in base 10, 2 plus 2 equals 4′. A subjective fact is one that is only true under certain conditions, at certain times, in certain places or for certain people.”

I haven’t seen any studies done that prove that the new Cadillac SRX is better than the new Lexus RX. I’ve read a lot of subjective arguments based on personal opinions and feelings of random individuals, but there has been no hypothesis made and no research done by a control group to prove this theory. So there is no OBJECTIVE FACT related to this matter.

07/12, 12:20 PM

posted by:

tripleonefive

sj79 “The Malibu is proven, it’s been around as a FWD sedan since 1997. I’ve never heard of any major reliability issues with the car since then.”
—How convenient that you have never heard of any of Malibu’s problems. I always thought you were full of **** but now I’m sure. In case you don’t know I’ll educate you. Almost every year it was out there was a recall for everything from the rack and pinion steering, airbags, lights, the gas tank not fitting correctly, the accelerator pedal, the anti lock brakes where the car could slow down to 3mph all of the sudden all the way down to the safety belts! The Malibu still has to prove it can match the reliability and resale value of the Toyota and Honda and it hasn’t and since the new one was recalled it’s unlikely that it will

sj79 “It’s equal in features, looks better, costs less, has equal interior quality and handles better.”
—Features are one thing, Looks are subjective the RX is much more stylish inside and out, depending on what package you get it may not cost less but it should cost less being that its not a proven vehicle and its from GM. The interior quality of the Lexus is renowned and the Cadillac is not. It’s the same interior in the CTS that squeaked and rattled when the nav screen came up. Handling better is subjective as well so you have no solid proof once again.
—Please send the link to the supposed Honda Fit reverse gear and I will address it. Unlike you I actually looked for it, I just wont say I’ve never heard of it.

sj79 “I can’t believe you call yourself and enthusiast and you spend your time defending mediocre vehicles like the RX”
—There is no evidence that the RX is mediocre I think you need to look up the word mediocre or just look at your posts. The Lexus much like the Camry is a PROVEN vehicle. I will say this as many times as it takes to get through
—I can’t believe you actually defend a car company that made crap and still makes crap under the guise that they are the “new” GM. The whole new GM is a scam so they can get out their past debt and their numerous lawsuits. For example there is a little girl who had her spine broken due to a seat belt in a GMC Envoy and under the new GM they don’t have to pay for 500k a year medical expenses. Since GM believe in America you would think that they would do the right thing being that their car caused this but hey that’s the kind of company you defend. Don’t shoot the messenger….
http://www.amandadinnigan.com/

sj79 “if you go to ALG’s site”
—The only thing the ALG site shows is that Honda and Acura have the best residual values. Send the link to show your evidence if it exists. The funny thing is 47% is still higher than 45% so even if you do get it you’ll still be wrong but I guess you like being proven wrong and its fun to do on my part. It took Honda and Toyota 20 years to prove their dominance and Im not going to give GM 9or Ford) a pass just because they are American. They have to wait and prove themselves and until they do I and other American consumers shouldn’t buy them

07/12, 12:30 PM

posted by:

Impulsive

If you cannot admit the obvious FACT that this SRX looks better, in and out, then you are of the minority that has no OBJECTIVE taste and, therefore, have no merit in posting anything of worth here. To try and explain something esoteric to someone average, unimportant, a commoner, ungifted, etc. would be useless as you see things from a less-than-correct perspective.

Clearly, those of you who don’t agree with OBJECTIVE FACT can’t see that 2+2=4 as your brains are at the development stage of a three year old. If you’re lucky, maybe one day you’ll understand.

07/12, 1:43 PM

posted by:

tripleonefive

Well being that you are using opinion and passing it off as “”obvious fact” and use animals like monkeys in your post I think its safe to say you are the 3 year old
The RX is better and in my opinion it looks better Stop being so impulsive and you wont embarass yourself as much

07/12, 4:04 PM

posted by:

Impulsive

More proof of less-than-developed brain power of a commoner that has SUBJECTIVE views that are wrong, as this vehicle makes the RX look like a Chinese copy of some ugly crap, which it is … I am OBJECTIVELY and FACTUALLY correct.

Import chimps are worthless here. Keep trying. You are out of your league, chimp.

07/12, 4:52 PM

posted by:

tripleonefive

I am OBJECTIVELY and FACTUALLY correct.
–Keep thinking that …and keep using animals in your posts bc that is what adults do. Ill get you a coloring book ok Impulsive

07/12, 7:31 PM

posted by:

Impulsive

You are a primate, plain and simple … your brain has evolved marginally past that of a chimp and your posts are clear evidence of that. You are so out of your league.

07/12, 8:37 PM

posted by:

tripleonefive

-Great post, the coloring book is on its way It will have chimps birds giraffes and all the animals you like
ANYWAY, The SRX is an improvement over the last SRX but that is it. It is not better than the RX and only time will tell if it is durable

07/12, 11:07 PM

posted by:

CarCrazy

Finally a good looking product from GM. What the hell were they waiting for?? The current SRX looks like crap.

07/13, 9:02 AM

posted by:

sj79

triple stupid:

care to offer any links to back up what you are saying about the Malibu? Of course not- you never do. I already told you that the Malibu and camry have the same depreciating rating according to Automotive Lease Guide and yet you continue to make absurd statements about the Camry having far superior resale value. Both models are recommended by CR and you ignore that. Please offer some PROOF of your position. As of 2009 the Malibu is just as good of a car as the Camry- period. Same for SRX and RX. Same for Traverse and Highlander. The list goes on and on. If you need help finding ALG’s site I suggest you use this site called Google.com- it allows you to type in whatever you want to find and 99% of the time you will find it. Its quite a handy site. Let me know how you make out- even a child (or a complete idiot) can use the site to find something which bodes well with someone with your limited intellect. I never said that ALG’s site showed MAlibu had best in class resale- I said it showed Malibu matches up with ES350 and Camry in resale. Acura and HOnda do considerably better than Toyota according to ALG’s rating system.

If you want to find out about the Fit getting towed go to insideline.com and find the long term road test section. You can still read all the entries on the Fit. The car’s manual transmission had a loose bolt or something and the reverse failed and the car had to be towed. I dont need to make these things up. They also had a Pilot years back that left them stranded in the desert because Honda never bothered to contact them about an important recall.

The SRX handles better- period. Thats not subjective you moron. All of the reviews of the SRX have made it clear that it handles better. Are you going to argue that its not cheaper? Are you going to argue that it doesn’t have the same features? The interior of the RX is a hot mess and everyone (except head in the sand Toyota fanboys) knows this. Its one of the worst looking interiors Lexus has ever created.

“For example there is a little girl who had her spine broken due to a seat belt in a GMC Envoy and under the new GM they don’t have to pay for 500k a year medical expenses. Since GM believe in America you would think that they would do the right thing being that their car caused this but hey that’s the kind of company you defend. Don’t shoot the messenger….”

You have no idea what you are talking about. Those with active lawsuits can still go after settlements with the Old GM. There is over $1B set aside to wind down the Old GM and that money will be available to pay out settlements. The government was on board with making New GM immune to old lawsuits so dont blame GM for that. Remember, GM wasn’t against going into Chapter 11- the government basically forced them there because they felt it was the best and fastest way to make the company viable. Also, just because someone has a lawsuit against a car company doenst mean the company is liable.

07/13, 9:05 AM

posted by:

sj79

“It is not better than the RX and only time will tell if it is durable”

You are right. Better looking interior, better exterior, lower price, better warranty, better handling- it all makes sense now. It really isnt better. Thanks for explaining that.

07/13, 9:17 AM

posted by:

sj79

Triple on 6

http://www.detnews.com/article/20090627/AUTO01/906270394/GM-to-retain-liability-for-claims-against-it?imw=Y

Lawsuits already filed will have to be paid from the assets of Old GM. New Lawsuits from products sold under brands that have been cut will be handled by New GM even though New GM doesnt own those brands anymore.

07/13, 11:18 AM

posted by:

tripleonefive

Thank you for providing a link finally. Also thank you for showing that GM will actually pay the medical bills of the numerous people their dangerous unsafe, unreliable, cars have hurt over the years. Now maybe that little girls family wont have to go in debt paying 500k a year bc the great GM builds unsafe crap, it’s the least they can do …Nice of them

SJ79- Please offer some PROOF of your position. Of course not- you never do.
— You never have any solid proof that says that GM and Ford are better then Honda and Toyota! If you can’t provide that you lose, which is what you have been doing
—Sounds like you can’t back up the nonsense you spewed. Its fine I didn’t expect you to. Links to the Fit and Pilot as you claim??? Show and prove.

I already told you that the Malibu and Camry have the same depreciating rating according to Automotive Lease Guide and yet you continue to make absurd statements about the Camry having far superior resale value.
–You never provided proof. You just spewed some numbers from the site and never provided a link. You provide the link I will address it.

Both models are recommended by CR and you ignore that.
— I like to go by automotive authorities but in a recent news story CR also said that the new GMs have loose panels, electrical problems are that they are not up to the Japanese in reliability so if you want to use CR (all of the sudden) you have to take that into account. It’s also funny how Domestic lovers like CR when they recommend GM but any other time they are not to be trusted. Even if both cars are recommended the history of the Malibu shows recall after recall and the Toyota has been a proven performer model after model. GM will and should NOT get a pass from consumers

As of 2009 the Malibu is just as good of a car as the Camry- period. Same for SRX and RX. Same for Traverse and Highlander.
—Once again where is the proof that these cars are durable and can last as long? These cars haven’t proven anything…oh the new Malibu was recalled so all it has proven is that it’s just like the last 2 Malibu models, A POS.

SJ79-The list goes on and on. If you need help finding ALG’s site I suggest you use this site called Google.com- it allows you to type in whatever you want to find and 99% of the time you will find it. It’s quite a handy site.
–I’m quite familiar with Google and the internet. The ALG site does not show anything regarding the % of the Camry vs. Malibu. If you have such evidence paste it. You will still be wrong but at least you can say you made an attempt at sending evidence. I find it funny that you can look up all this other data (not paste it of course) but you haven’t seen any of the issues with the old Malibu as you “never heard of any problems”

SJ79 -The SRX handles better- period. That’s not subjective you moron. All of the reviews of the SRX have made it clear that it handles better.
–All of the reviews huh ?……. “The Lexus offers a far softer ride too. Impacts are barely audible—the structure feels solid—and the resilient suspension makes road imperfections disappear. The SRX is clearly skewed toward the sporty side of the ride-and-handling compromise”
—So it depends on what kind of ride you want therefore subjective. I’m not going to call you an idiot bc I know you already feel and live like one.

SJ79-The interior of the RX is a hot mess
—Hot mess??? Ok now I know you are a woman. Here is a review “The Lexus interior is handsome. And the materials and fit and finish are two notches above the Caddy’s”, The Lexus uses soft touch plastic that’s integrated cleanly into the leather, while the Caddy’s are hard plastic that look tacked on”

SJ79 -You are right. Better looking interior, better exterior, lower price, better warranty, and better handling- it all makes sense now. It really isn’t better. Thanks for explaining that

—I’m usually right so that is no surprise. The looks are subjective and the Lexus RX has a better looking interior and smoother exterior so stop trying to pass your nonsense off as fact. The Cadillac SRX is an unproven GM so the price should be much lower. Most of what you said was Pro Detroit Pro American propaganda. Please let me know when you can provide some solid FACT (look it up). I’ll be waiting …

07/13, 11:58 AM

posted by:

Impulsive

Even the little children will enjoy seeing you in those colouring books and see how worthless you are, chimp.

The SRX looks better than the RX , in and out … OBJECTIVE FACT.

07/13, 3:51 PM

posted by:

sj79

“The Lexus uses soft touch plastic that’s integrated cleanly into the leather, while the Caddy’s are hard plastic that look tacked on”

Post a link to ONE review of the 2010 SRX (or 2007 for that matter) that claims the vehicle has hard plastics. Just ONE. Thats all that I ask.

“I’m quite familiar with Google and the internet. The ALG site does not show anything regarding the % of the Camry vs. Malibu. If you have such evidence paste it. You will still be wrong but at least you can say you made an attempt at sending evidence. I find it funny that you can look up all this other data (not paste it of course) but you haven’t seen any of the issues with the old Malibu as you “never heard of any problems” ”

If you GOOGLE “ALG” you can find their site. On their site there is a table breaking down cars by category. I said the MALIBU HAS THE SAME STAR RATING AS THE CAMRY AND ES350. What part of that is confusiing you? In other words, they project that depreciation for the Camry is about the same as the Malibu. There is not a big difference between the two. See the link above if you have doubts. You are ignorant and yet you argue anyway. I dont need to make up facts, the truth speaks for itself. Now I’m sure you will come back and tell me that ALG isnt a trusted source although you wont provide me with a source to back your claims.

07/13, 7:00 PM

posted by:

aggie531

@ impulsive

“The RX is ugly, in and out … FACT”

Wow you are an idiot. Do you know the difference between FACT and OPINION? Or are you still in third grade?

A fact is something that can be proven with data or a reliable source of information. Example: A Mercedes-Benz C-Class starting price is $33,600. I can prove that at http://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/#/vehiclesMenu/.

An opinion is something that you think in your own mind that cannot be proven and other people may disagree. Example: The Ford Fusion is the best looking car in the world. Not all may agree with that statement. Some people may think that another car looks better. It is all in your mind and your mind only.

Now did we learn something today?

07/13, 8:34 PM

posted by:

anyclearer

Aggie531, I agree with you, but…if your going to be smart and correct them, you should be smarter and quote them correctly also, you cant get on him about saying Objective Fact, if you cant quote him right.

TripleoneFive…..such a long spew over people opinions. If someone doesnt like the RX interior or whatever…..you dont have to agree. Personally i think the srx interior is better, but both this and the rx look more geared toward woman. You say the malibu has a recall therfore its the same crap as the last gen. and gm is still building crap, even though there ration of cars sold and problems per car is the same as toyota, and i belive that in 07 or 08 toyota lead the lead with most recalls.

Just in general, i think everyone on here needs to keep things more recent. If a car is brand new….. why bring up things from 5+years ago. Be current, You wouldnt read a news paper from 2004 and think its important. Why would anyone think your “facts” or opinons mean anything if they arent uptodate with what is happening now?

07/13, 8:43 PM

posted by:

anyclearer

Also tripleonefive…..how on earth can you say something that is unproven is unreliable? Logically, no outcome can be made from somehting that is brand new and on its reliablity. Big deal the rx ha been around for 10 years, camaros, mustangs, f150’s, suburban, have been around for 30+ years from domestic company’ who you clam are all crap. Toyota has had its own flaws with recalls and poor designs and selling. MR2, Celica, New FJ cruiser, echo……..all were/are poor selling flawed vehicles.

Id really love to see people put bias aside and just take these vehicles on a one by one, cause each manufacturer has pros and cons.

07/13, 10:15 PM

posted by:

tripleonefive

http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-bankruptcy-talks-not-slowing-chevrolet-volt-development.html
AC Scroll down and look at the recalls that GM had vs the recalls that Toyota had. GM has had more

SJ -As soon as you provide the linek to the ALG and the FIt and the Pilot so I know you are not lying I will send you the link where I quoted the SRX cheap interior
ALso I love how GM broke that lil girls back and is paying for it That is the kind of company you choose to defend. Seems like you are running out of things to lie about there buddy

07/13, 10:22 PM

posted by:

tripleonefive

Im sure you can provide links and Im sure you can find the site that the quotes are posted on Let me know how you make out- even a child (or a complete idiot) can use the site to find something which bodes well with someone with your limited intellect…….Its fun using your words against you

07/13, 10:55 PM

posted by:

BimjobRimjob

Tripleonefive, you are not in a position to request people to provide links and proof of facts as you, yourself very rarely provide links to back up your dubious claims.

You are just a bitter, immature individual who can’t accept the fact that a domestic manufacturer can produce a good product which perfectly rivals, and in some cases, outclasses the competition.

It is strange that you have so much animosity towards domestic vehicles and not Japanese considering your holier-than-thou Japanese made Acura CL, with its superior reliability, has gone through three transmissions in under 100k miles.

Would you care for me to provide the link to that one?

07/13, 11:03 PM

posted by:

tripleonefive

Can you ? If you can provide a link to that I would love to see it I told Adam I never owned a CL so please show me a link

07/13, 11:08 PM

posted by:

Impulsive

‘aggie’, you obviously aren’t OBJECTIVE … you are an average or below average human being in terms of intelligence, accept mediocrity, have no taste in evaluating automobiles, clearly have SUBJECTIVE views and don’t understand that, just like original Chinese auto designs, the RX fails miserably, in and out, in the design criterion.

Yes, everyone has an opinion, fool. But not all opinions are true, factual and objective. This is where YOU learn your lesson and understand that I only post OBJECTIVELY and FACTUALLY. I have no bias towards any company so I tell it like it is. Sorry you may have your feelings hurt because you don’t agree with FACT.

Like I’ve stated earlier in this thread, to try and explain to you chimps something esoteric is pointless. You will never understand because it is beyond your capacity … it is better to leave you all believing your SUBJECTIVE views are correct and not disturb the social order all the while knowing OBJECTIVELY and FACTUALLY that you couldn’t be more wrong … akin to telling your child that their artwork is beautiful, knowing full well it’s a disaster.

Again, the SRX looks better than the RX, in and out … OBJECTIVE FACT. Cry to your mothers, bitches.

07/13, 11:10 PM

posted by:

tripleonefive

After you do that you (lol) can try and show some proof for a domestic manufacturer can produce a good product which perfectly rivals, and in some cases, outclasses the competition. I”ll be waiting

07/14, 8:30 AM

posted by:

sj79

I provide the ALG link already you moron. I know you can read so stop saying I haven’t provided the link.

https://www.alg.com/DepreciationRatings

THERE IS IS AGAIN. Read it and weep. Now admit you are wrong or shut up. You have yet to provide any links to back up ANYTHING you’ve said to me about Malibu quality or resale value. If Malibu resalve value is as poor as you claim PROVE IT. I never said anything about overall GM recalls so why would you provide me a link to such a statistic?

07/14, 8:33 AM

posted by:

sj79

Triple on stupid:

The link you provided doesn’t have any information regarding GM recalling more vehicles than Toyota. What are you talking about? Even if that was the case its irrelevant because GM sells more than Toyota here in the US.

PLEASE provide the link for that review claiming the SRX had a cheap plastic interior. Still waiting.

07/14, 9:22 AM

posted by:

tripleonefive

I WONT WEEP BC YOU DIDNT SHOW WHAT YOU SAID AND YOU NEVER SENT IT
You have not provided what I asked and what you said You said something about the Malibu being 45% and the Camry being 47% which is still higher. Sending a false link is not going to work there buddy I went on ALG and saw that
The recalls was for AnyClearer not you
But I have the link to show that the Cadillac interior is inferior Its from an auto site so be prepared to be embarassed. As soon as you send what you said you would I will post

07/14, 9:34 AM

posted by:

tripleonefive

oh and dont try and twist the words Its hard plastic that looks tacked on was the exact quote
Also it says that the materials are two notches above the Caddy’s so get ready
BJRJ- Im waiting

07/14, 11:14 AM

posted by:

sj79

Here it is: Now shut up.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aw1th8uBIqps

Camry 47%, Malibu 45% and 44% for Fusion. Hardly a major gap and thats not even counting the NEW Fusion. There is not a huge gap between Toyota resale and the resale of newer American branded products. Stop saying otherwise unless you are prepared to be seen as a liar. I will ask you AGAIN to provide a link supporting your position on Toyota’s far superior resale on CURRENT products. Don’t take me back to the 90s or early 2000s- tell me about NOW.

07/14, 11:21 AM

posted by:

BimjobRimjob

Hmm…it seems my comment I posted last night only shows up when I log in. I can only determine that it is because of the links in my post. I’d hate to keep you waiting, so here is a modified version. ;)

07/13, 11:32 PM
posted by:
BimjobRimjob

07/13, 11:03 PM
posted by:
tripleonefive
“Can you ? If you can provide a link to that I would love to see it I told Adam I never owned a CL so please show me a link”

Hahaha…funny guy. I see you deleted your posts from there. It is also funny because Google and your “carspace” on Edmunds still has it cached.

—-> hxxp://img339.imageshack.us/img339/9763/1115m.jpg

—-> hxxp://img505.imageshack.us/img505/7567/11152.jpg

(change “hxxp” to “http”)

From the thread:
#30 of 79 Transmission Problem 2001 CL [drcitrus] by tripleonefive Jan 01, 2006 (12:08 pm)
Replying to: drcitrus (Mar 24, 2005 8:43 am)I had the tranny replaced about 2 years ago at 41k and now I have to do it all over again Typical problem it seems. I have to get rid of it before the 100k warranty is up. Ill take my business over to Infiniti or Lexus when they make the IS coupe

#30 being your original post in that thread…oh look, I see #29, #31…wait, that doesn’t seem right, what happened to #30? Perhaps the owner was too humiliated to publicize the major problems he was having with his “superior” Japanese product.

—-> hxxp://townhall.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f0e5fe1/28

Oh, would you look at that…#63, the post where he then discusses the subsequent failures of his “superior” Japanese product has disappeared as well. ;)

—-> hxxp://townhall.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f0e5fe1/58

07/14, 11:52 AM

posted by:

tripleonefive

J.D. Power. AND CONSUMER REPORTS dont count buddy and this was in the article
it takes 10 to 15 years to get that reputation back,” said David Champion–THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING !
http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/new_cars/4323555.html
Now you may shut up

bjrj30 being your original post in that thread…oh look, I see #29, #31…wait, that doesn’t seem right, what happened to #30? Perhaps the owner was too humiliated to publicize the major problems he was having with his “superior” Japanese product
–Sorry buddy Dissapeared ?? Looks like you are making things up. Is there a link to it or isnt there I see a screen shot of a google search when I go to edmunds I see no post.
Show the link of where you copied and pasted from and then prove that I own a 99 2001 2003 cl CL Also look up the resale even if the CL’s (even with a supossed bad trans) vs lets say a comparable GM product
Been there done that buddy You really think you are first idiot to try that ?

07/14, 12:56 PM

posted by:

Impulsive

HAHAHAAAAAAAAA!

The chimp’s been outed …. facking loser lives everyday of his pathetic life a lying hypocrite.

HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!

What a loser!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

07/14, 1:04 PM

posted by:

aggie531

@ sj79

edmunds said: “Materials quality is significantly improved over past years, though there are still a few surfaces that seem out of place in a $40K vehicle.” http://www.edmunds.com/cadillac/srx/2007/review.html

thats the closest I could find.

07/14, 1:31 PM

posted by:

tripleonefive

Impulsive is still talking huh
He only read what he wants (if he can read) so he didnt see that there is not link to what was posted It “disapeared which sounds like excuses
ANYWAY
I sent the article to the Pop Mech site and now SJ has nothing to say bc I showed him up with the article and he never delivered on the article he promised. While the link he sent was a Bloomberg page it used data from JD Powers and Consumer Reports not ALG …or KBB or NADA.
Look for Sj to change the subject and not admit that he was shown up THis is what he said
“Post a link to ONE review of the 2010 SRX (or 2007 for that matter) that claims the vehicle has hard plastics. Just ONE. Thats all that I ask.”
http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/new_cars/4323555.html
He is also busy in another thread bc low and behold the “New GM” have issues with their Camaro that they have been working on for 3 years. I expect similar issues with the Volt. I cant wait

07/14, 2:07 PM

posted by:

Impulsive

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAhAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

How’s that ****ty CL, chimp?

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Facking loser …. BWAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

You are a worthless piece of crap and you’ve been outed … WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

07/14, 2:31 PM

posted by:

sj79

aggie:

We are talking about the 2010 SRX. I am waiting for Triple on stupid to produce an article backing his claims that the SRX’s interior is lacking in quality. The old SRX had a great interior as well that stood up to any Lexus. IL complains about every domestic vehicle they tests so I’m not surprised they had fault with the 2007 model- as usual they dont provide specifics.

Wow so 1115 had a CL with tranny problems. That is FUNNY. He is a fraud, a phony a hypocrite. He says Japanese cars have perfect reliability when he KNOWS this is BS based on his own experiences. glad I never owed a CL based on what I just read.

Still waiting for a response to my link about the resale value…..

07/14, 2:39 PM

posted by:

sj79

PS;

How’s the tranny on your CL doing these days? No wonder Honda only covers the powertrain for 60k miles. Makes sense now.

07/14, 2:49 PM

posted by:

tripleonefive

PS Never owned one and apparently you can just blame it on the supplier like you tried to do in the Camaro thread.
BACK TO THE SUBJECT
I have provided my link and Ill be waiting for you to admit defeat AND you have to provide the ALG with the percentages in there
You are running out of time and excuses !!!!
Im waiting

07/14, 3:01 PM

posted by:

tripleonefive

http:www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/new_cars/4323555.html

Its typed out written out spelled out and you cant deny it

Still waiting for a response to my link about the resale value…..
Keep buying time to think of more excuses and keep trying to change the subject
Here is what I said so you cant say you missed it Im all over you buddy, you have no choice

ME- he never delivered on the article he promised. While the link he sent was a Bloomberg page it used data from JD Powers and Consumer Reports ****not ALG**** …or KBB or NADA.
Were is the ALG link that shows this ???

07/14, 3:37 PM

posted by:

sj79

Honda makes its own transmissions you idiot.

“I have provided my link and Ill be waiting for you to admit defeat AND you have to provide the ALG with the percentages in there:”

I ALREADY PROVIDED THE LINK TO THE STORY FROM BLOOMBERG. You chose not to reply. The article CLEARLY says Camry resale is barely superior to Malibu or Fusion. Can you read? What is wrong with you?

“Still waiting for a response to my link about the resale value…..”

I POSTED IT ALREADY

From 11:14AM

“Here it is: Now shut up.

Camry 47%, Malibu 45% and 44% for Fusion. Hardly a major gap and thats not even counting the NEW Fusion. There is not a huge gap between Toyota resale and the resale of newer American branded products. Stop saying otherwise unless you are prepared to be seen as a liar. I will ask you AGAIN to provide a link supporting your position on Toyota’s far superior resale on CURRENT products. Don’t take me back to the 90s or early 2000s- tell me about NOW.”

READ THE ABOVE AND SHUT UP.

“http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aw1th8uBIqps”

There it is again.

“http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aw1th8uBIqps”

There it is one more time.

“Its typed out written out spelled out and you cant deny it”

The article complained about plastic on the rear of the seats. It says nothing about the interior design being inferior.

07/14, 3:41 PM

posted by:

Impulsive

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What a loser!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This chimp is THE most useless piece of dung that exists here.

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

07/14, 3:42 PM

posted by:

sj79

“ME- he never delivered on the article he promised. While the link he sent was a Bloomberg page it used data from JD Powers and Consumer Reports ****not ALG**** …or KBB or NADA.
Were is the ALG link that shows this ???”

CR does not rate resale, nor does JDP you idiot. WTF are you talking about? KBB and ALG rate depreciation. The article does not even mention Consumer Reports so I know you didnt even read it before responding with more nonsense.

this is a DIRECT QUOTE FROM THE ARTICLE

“Toyota and Honda retain a number of advantages. After three years of ownership, a new Accord should keep 53 percent of its retail value and Camry should have 47 percent, more than Malibu’s 45 percent and Fusion’s 44 percent, according to Automotive Lease Guide, the industry standard for used-car prices. ”

Can you read that? Do not keep saying I didnt provide the link. Not only do you already know the products you defend can break down based on your experiences, you deny things that cannot be denied. Now you are telling me the data in the article doesnt count because you dont like the source of the info. That is irrational. Stop making excuses because you have been proven to be a fool in front of everyone here. You know nothing about the industry and you flat out lied about not owning a CL with a busted transmission.

07/14, 3:46 PM

posted by:

sj79

impulsive:

I can only assume he is playing around because no one can be as stupid as he pretends to be. What does he get out of acting like such a fool? He embarrasses himself everything he posts here. Perhaps he is an unemployed mechanic from a Toyota or Honda dealership. Did you see how many times this moron ignored the links I provided to back up my position? He argues, claims you cant prove something and then pretends he cant read the proof you provide. He’s worse than a child. If he is representative of the average Acura owner I will never buy an Acura. Its funny how people always stereotype domestic car drivers as being less educated and sophisticated when idiots like 1115 are more ignorant than any NASCAR loving, beer drinking, trailer park living lifelong domestic car owners. He is a disgrace to the brands he swears by, he’s a disgrace to his entire family. He makes us more stupid just by being here.

07/14, 3:50 PM

posted by:

tripleonefive

SJ79-I ALREADY PROVIDED THE LINK TO THE STORY FROM BLOOMBERG. You chose not to reply. The article CLEARLY says Camry resale is barely superior to Malibu or Fusion. Can you read? What is wrong with you?

—–You provided a link that quoted the JD Powers CR and ALG site. You never posted the LINK to the ALG site that says this data ! Where is the LINK ?????.

You asked me for a site about the SRX interior and I showed you a website provided a link where they tested the car and made the comment and you will have to admit defeat or you are NOT even a MAN

sj79
“The Lexus uses soft touch plastic that’s integrated cleanly into the leather, while the Caddy’s are hard plastic that look tacked on”
Post a link to ONE review of the 2010 SRX (or 2007 for that matter) that claims the vehicle has hard plastics. Just ONE. Thats all that I ask.
THIS IS WHAT YOU SAID AND THE ARTICLE SAYS EXACTLY WHAT I POSTED SO STOP TRYING TO DODGE THE FACT THAT YOU WERE OUITCLASSED AND ADMIT DEFEAT !
I POSTED THE LINK 4 TIMES !!! AND YOU ARE STILL IN SHOCK AND CANT THINK OF AN EXCUSE
BE A MAN FOR ONCE IN YOUR LIFE !
Your excuses have run out !

07/14, 4:18 PM

posted by:

tripleonefive

SJ
Unlike you I don’t have to talk to someone else about you. You dodged my links 4 times and tried to ignore them bc you know that they prove you wrong and you are not man enough to admit it.
Be a man and talk directly to me, oh that is right you are not. I know that you are defeated bc you are doing everything you can to avoid sending the actual link to the ALG site. You sent the site that had a star system and you sent a Bloomberg link that only QUOTED the ALG link, not the ACTUAL link. You are playing around because now you have put your foot in your mouth and it has caught up to you. What possible reason do you have for not admitting defeat? I know you are sensitive and your manhood is at stake but you have no choice now. The link is there and I posted what you said and provided the link 4 times even typing it out once It took you that long to come back with that bull**** post to Impulsive ?

You have been proven wrong every time you post on here. Just check the Camaro recall thread and the excuses that are used. You have embarrassed yourself to the point of no return. Being that you post on GM related sites Im guessing you work for them and have something to gain by saying they are reliable when there is no evidence that you have shown or that exist that they are

You argue claims that GM and Ford are equal to Honda and Toyota but you cant prove anything and you pretend that you cant see the links and then tried to change the SRX question but you were foiled bc I just posted what you said. I typed out the link and proved you wrong so you are the moron.

You are less than a man and worse than a child. If you are a rep of the average GM owner then the average GM owner is stubborn idiot who is afraid to lose and cant admit when they have been defeated. You are NOT a MAN at ALL! If GM ever makes a decent car then wouldn’t want to be lumped in with a non man like yourself.

Its funny how you know you are wrong and are doing everything to avoid admitting it. Talking to Impulsive wont help you and stereotypes don’t matter. You can call me less educated, an idiot all you want but I’m not sensitive like yourself so it means nothing furthermore someone who deem to be such things just outclassed you so what does that make you ? I love how you avoided the link clear as day. The bottom line (much like PM choosing the RX over the SRX) is that you have been proven wrong you know it and you are not man enough to admit it.
You are a disgrace to your family (if you have one) your mother, your children and the brands you swear by GM (if that is possible). You bring down the human race every time you wake up in the morning and you STILL have to sleep knowing that a person who you claim is an idiot has outdone you !

07/14, 4:33 PM

posted by:

tripleonefive

SJ 79-We are talking about the 2010 SRX. REALLY

Oh but wait
Post a link to ONE review of the 2010 SRX ******(or 2007 for that matter)******** that claims the vehicle has hard plastics. Just ONE. Thats all that I ask.

You blew off aggie531’s comment when he provided a link let me bring you back

The old SRX had a great interior as well that stood up to any Lexus. *******IL complains about every domestic vehicle they tests so I’m not surprised they had fault with the 2007 model- as usual they dont provide specifics.
–REALLY is that your excuse ??? Pathetic

*****I am waiting for Triple on stupid(Seems you are the stupid one my friend) to produce an article backing his claims that the SRX’s interior is lacking in quality.
—Oh trying to change up the question huh The original question was
Post a link to ONE review of the 2010 SRX ******(or 2007 for that matter)******** that claims the vehicle has hard plastics. Just ONE. Thats all that I ask.
THE LINK http:www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/new_cars/4323555.html
“The Lexus uses soft touch plastic that’s integrated cleanly into the leather, while the Caddy’s are hard plastic that look tacked on.”
Forced to choose, we’d go with the Lexus.

READ THE ABOVE AND ADMIT DEFEAT OR ADMIT YOU ARE NOT A MAN.

07/14, 5:15 PM

posted by:

Impulsive

’sj’, why waste your time with a useless chimp? Move on.

07/14, 5:17 PM

posted by:

tripleonefive

I just wanted to state again that Sj has to ADMIT DEFEAT OR JUST ADMIT HE IS NOT A MAN

Just wanted to show something about the fuel economy for those who care
The Lexus returned 21.5 mpg The SRX achieved only 19.5 mpg
The Lexus EPA figures 18 city and 24 highway are also better than the SRX’s 17 mpg city and 23 mpg highway

07/14, 5:18 PM

posted by:

tripleonefive

Oh now Impulsive is telling you to move on so not only can you not admit defeat but you have a puppetmaster Once you ADMIT DEFEAT OR ADMIT YOU ARE NO MAN then you can move on

07/14, 6:16 PM

posted by:

tripleonefive

Or you can just Shut UPwhich is what I wanted you to do. You know for someone who calls people stupid, idiot, moron etc you are sure looking like one.
When you come back on you can address the SRX RX matter and also admit that you never saw 45% vs 47% on the acutal ALG site you saw the quote on the Bloomberg site and got carried away
ADMIT DEFEAT OR ADMIT YOU ARE NO MAN!

07/14, 6:29 PM

posted by:

aggie531

“But open the doors and the situation reverses. The Caddy’s interior is highly stylized with chrome rings on the knobs and a prominent, silver center-stack bezel. But it feels busy, and some of the details are tacky. Take for example, the turn-signal crystals that are mounted in the gauge cluster. They light up and flash, which comes across as, well, less than dignified. The Lexus interior doesn’t pack as much glitz, but, in this case, simplicity is an asset. The Lexus interior is handsome. And the materials and fit and finish are two notches above the Caddy’s. Details count in this arena and a look at the front seatbacks speaks volumes: The Lexus uses soft touch plastic that’s integrated cleanly into the leather, while the Caddy’s are hard plastic that look tacked on.”

sj79
“Post a link to ONE review of the 2010 SRX (or 2007 for that matter) that claims the vehicle has hard plastics. Just ONE. Thats all that I ask.”

“The article complained about plastic on the rear of the seats. It says nothing about the interior design being inferior.”

it doesnt matter where the hard plastic is you just wanted hard plastic.

the article does say the SRX’s interior design is tacky and indignified.

07/14, 7:18 PM

posted by:

BimjobRimjob

You know, tripleonefive, you’d get a lot farther if you didn’t get so defensive and opt to name calling, silly antics, and throwing a tantrum to get your “point” across. It really detracts from any possible credibility you would have. You also need to be a bit more open-minded, especially considering your Acura has had so many problems. (I hope you have gotten out from under it by now, and moved on to something more reliable.)

Also, just for fun, while 47% is higher than 45%, giving the Camry the edge in resale (not hard to believe considering it has a Toyota badge on it) take a look at these figures based on those resale percentages.

A fully loaded Malibu comes out to around $32,060.
A fully loaded Camry (other than the trd parts) comes out to around $34,936.

$32,060 X 45% = $14,427
$34,936 X 47% = $16,419.92

$32,060 – $14,427 = $17,633.00 depreciation
$34,936 – $16,419.92 = $18,516.08 depreciation

Everything else being equal, because the Camry is a more expensive car than a Malibu, the owner of a Malibu will have lost less money in depreciation than the owner of the Camry.

07/14, 7:24 PM

posted by:

tripleonefive

Yea yea thanks Thats nice BJRJ provide a link You seem to have an issue with that
On to SJ ADMIT DEFEAT OR ADMIT YOU ARE NO MAN!

07/14, 8:52 PM

posted by:

BimjobRimjob

How ironic you should say that. I actually have no problems providing links (as you undoubtedly saw in my first post.) Last time I checked, you can’t link to a specific car configurator. But be my guest and price out a fully loaded Camry and Malibu on each car’s respective company websites. You will see the prices I implemented into my equations are no different.

I will even help you out and link you to the car’s websites:

Malibu:
hxxp://www.chevrolet.com/vehicles/2009/malibu/overview.do

Camry:
hxxp://www.toyota.com/camry/

But I digress…This should be about the SRX.

I preferred the last one because it was a larger vehicle, had a great suspension thanks to the magnetorheological dampers, and had a nice selection of engines, especially with the V8 Northstar. The interior on the later models was very nice as well. It is a shame that vehicle never reached the sales numbers it deserved, despite the positive recognition it received from its reviewers.

That being said, I want to like this SRX. The design inside and out is much nicer than most of the competition (in my opinion, I’d say that top spot may go to the Q5), and it is certainly worlds better in terms of design than the RX. But this feminine, poseur “utility” vehicle market is not for me. If I want an SUV I’m getting an SUV. Something with RWD, a V8, and body on frame. If I’m getting a car I want a car (also with rwd and a V8, but instead of BOF give me a manual.) I don’t want something in between.

07/14, 10:26 PM

posted by:

tripleonefive

yea Yea yea thanks for sharing your opinion of the SRX but I saw no direct link I saw a bunch of screen shots and something you typed but never a link to show WHAT you typed then the David Blaine excuses come in Sorry buddy
ANYWAY SJ79 ADMIT DEFEAT OR ADMIT YOU ARE NOT A MAN!

07/14, 11:20 PM

posted by:

BimjobRimjob

Apparently you didn’t read it well enough then. The links I provided of screenshots clearly showed parts of your posts about your faulty Acura. I managed to dig up the entire post in writing, and the forum pages clearly show your posts “missing in action” after you were called out on them not long ago and tried to cover up your steps.

So I take it you never did get out of that Acura?

And what is all this about your obsession with sj79’s gender?

07/15, 6:07 AM

posted by:

tripleonefive

“parts of your posts” ,“missing in action” HMMM excuses
You failed to provide a direct link to my supposed posts For all I know you could have written those “parts”

So I take it you never did get out of that Acura? Cant get out of what you never had

And what is all this about your obsession with sj79’s gender?
Don’t worry about SJ and myself

07/15, 8:44 AM

posted by:

sj79

Aggie:

IF you honestly think the SRX’s interior is tacky than you are as stupid as triple idiot. Really. I read the popular mechanics article and they did not say the interior was “undignified”. They said some details were tacky such as the turn signal indicators. For the record, other reviews noted the feature as a positive. The Pop mechanics article seems to be biased against the SRX from the start and much of what they say contradicts other reviews. They do agree that the SRX looks and handles better. When I asked for a description of hard plastics I was talking about on the dashboard or other areas that consumers touch, not the back of the seats. No one cars about whats on the back of the seats and you can find find plastic in that location on Lexus, BMW or MB models. Its commonplace in the industry.

triple on stupid:

So you flat out deny that the article mentions the resale values I stated? Either you’re a liar or you can’t read. I know you can read so that only leaves on option. You asked for the proof and I gave it to you and you cannot handle it so you are jumping all over the place like you just got shot in the foot. Calm down and recognize that you made a fool out of yourself. Again.

07/15, 8:54 AM

posted by:

sj79

“When you come back on you can address the SRX RX matter and also admit that you never saw 45% vs 47% on the acutal ALG site you saw the quote on the Bloomberg site and got carried away”

WTF are you talking about? I never said that percentage figures came from the ALG site, I said the DATA came from ALG and it did. I said from the start that the info was referenced in a Bloombery article and I gave you a link to the article. You were proven wrong. I told you that the ALG site rated Camry and Malibu in the same depreciation category. Read it and weap. You cannot change the facts. NExt you will be telling me you didnt go through 2 trannies with your Acura CL. You haven’t defeated me in ANYTHING. I made you look like the fool you are repeatedly and you are scrambling. Its like you have been punched hard in the jaw and you are disoriented. YOu don’t know how to respond because there is nothign to say you just play dumb (easy for you) to try and dance around the facts.

“You provided a link that quoted the JD Powers CR and ALG site. You never posted the LINK to the ALG site that says this data ! Where is the LINK ?????.”

I never said the % figures came from ALG’s site jackass. What are you talking about?

“You asked me for a site about the SRX interior and I showed you a website provided a link where they tested the car and made the comment and you will have to admit defeat or you are NOT even a MAN ”

I read the link, it totally contradicts what others have said and their complaint wasnt even about the dash area. In fact, they weren’t even talking about plastics that you touch with your hand moron. Is that the best you have? An article complaining about hard plastics on the back of a seat is pathetic. Come up with something better.

“You sent the site that had a star system and you sent a Bloomberg link that only QUOTED the ALG link, not the ACTUAL link. You are playing around because now you have put your foot in your mouth and it has caught up to you. What possible reason do you have for not admitting defeat? I know you are sensitive and your manhood is at stake but you have no choice now. ”

Listen you fool: the man quoted in the bloombery article WORKS FOR ALG. ALG PROVIDED THE DATA. I NEVER SAID THE ALG SITE LISTED THE RESALE VALUES OF THE CARS IN QUESTION. Apparently that data isn’t available for free from the site. For the Bloombery article the author talked to ALG to get resale values on popular midsize sedans. The numebrs speak for themselves. ARe you saying ALG is lying? Are you saying Bloomberg is lying? YES OR NO. Answer that question. Stop talking about links and proved to me the data provided by ALG is inaccurate. Either you can do it or you cannot.

Implusive:

You are right. I have stooped to his level. Which is actually below the gutter. I should not debate people who likely didn’t make it out of middle school.

07/15, 8:59 AM

posted by:

sj79

“You can call me less educated, an idiot all you want but I’m not sensitive like yourself so it means nothing furthermore someone who deem to be such things just outclassed you so what does that make you ? I love how you avoided the link clear as day. The bottom line (much like PM choosing the RX over the SRX) is that you have been proven wrong you know it and you are not man enough to admit it.”

I hope I dont get in trouble for child abuse for making you look and feel so bad. You are very sensitive as evidenced by your angry rants and use of exclamation points. YOu are losing your cool and running out of material so you are now using my statements against me. Be original and stop trying to rephrase my attacks. I do like watching a child like yourself break down and get irrational. Your whole “YOUR NOT A MAN!!” rant isn’t funny or even clever. Its corny and you will have to do much better than that. You can try to distract us from your lack of intelligence all you want but your diversions are failing. You have been exposed as a fraud who wont even admit that his former Honda produce was unreliable and needed the tow truck just like the Fit that Insideline had in their fleet. I know you are a big man here on this site which isn’t screened but in the real world you are a nobody. Online bullies are all the same. They are big and bad on the net where no one is accountable because they are so small and insignificant in the real world.

07/15, 10:06 AM

posted by:

aggie531

@sj79

ok. i didnt understand that. I personally dont think the interior is tacky.

They said the turn signals were less than dignified and i shortened that by saying undignified. Mistake on my part.

07/15, 10:18 AM

posted by:

tripleonefive

“When you come back on you can address the SRX RX matter and also admit that you never saw 45% vs 47% on the actual ALG site you saw the quote on the Bloomberg site and got carried away”
WTF are you talking about? I never said that percentage figures came from the ALG site, I said the DATA came from ALG and it did. I said from the start that the info was referenced in a Bloomberg article

—— You can admit your defeat on the SRX vs. RX argument now

SJ79 “I never said the % figures came from ALG’s site jackass. What are you talking about?
SJ79- One other thing, if you go to ALG’s site it ranks the Malibu in the same category (3 stars) as Camry and ES350 for resale value. The fact that so many Toyota and LExus mdoels are in the 3 star category blows up your tired arguments about Toyota products having far superior resale value to American products. CAmry s projected to hold 47% of value over 3 years vs 45% for Malibu. Dont shoot the messenger.

–Where did you say this info was referenced from Bloomberg ????? It clearly says that it was from the ALG site and you never referenced Bloomberg. LIES and you are caught again

07/15, 10:23 AM

posted by:

tripleonefive

Your CommentSJ79 -You don’t know how to respond because there is nothing to say you just play dumb (easy for you) to try and dance around the facts.
-You waited a day to think of excuses for me and Aggie and looking at those post I see a defeated bitter man who cant admit that he was defeated. I would say your seatback comment shows who is dancing and not well
1115 “You provided a link that quoted the JD Powers CR and ALG site. You never posted the LINK to the ALG site that says this data ! Where is the LINK ?????.”
1115 You asked me for a site about the SRX interior and I showed you a website provided a link where they tested the car and made the comment and you will have to admit defeat or you are NOT even a MAN ”
I read the link, it totally contradicts what others have said
—So now it matter what others said when you asked “Post a link to ONE review of the 2010 SRX (or 2007 for that matter) that claims the vehicle has hard plastics. Just ONE. Thats all that I ask.
- You are pathetic. Trying to change your story now wont help you. You have been defeated – You can admit your defeat anytime, the sooner the better

07/15, 10:33 AM

posted by:

tripleonefive

SJ 79- Implusive:
You are right. I have stooped to his level. Which is actually below the gutter. I should not debate people who likely didn’t make it out of middle school.
-Well you were defeated by someone who “didn’t make it out of middle school”. It’s interesting that you say things like that and call me corny and unoriginal. You still need the support of Impulsive as well which is another sign that you are not a man. Its ok SJ its quite apparent who is the man in the relationship btw you and Impulsive
SJ79 I hope I dont get in trouble for child abuse for making you look and feel so bad.
- Child abuse ? what did you say about originality and corniness? You are still not able to admit you were outclassed and its funny that it took you all night to think of a comeback and it was filled with excuses like “Pop Mech is bias” and “I was talking about the seatbacks not the areas people touch “Really?
SJ79 You are very sensitive as evidenced by your angry rants and use of exclamation points.
–I see you are extremely sensitive and admitting defeat will cost you your manhood. Its also apparent that you need a cheerleader or some backup in Impulsive who makes ridiculous posts involving chimps and other wildlife. I rephrase your “attacks” bc it is easy and fun to use your words against you. It works well and you dont like it. Saying that you ARE NOT A MAN isn’t meant o be funny in any way. It’s the truth bc you are defeated, you know it, and you are making every excuse to get around it.
–It must mean too much for you to admit defeat bc you have probably had to do it in real life so many times that it would break you to do it online .If you were a real man you would just admit it and move on but you cant. You have been exposed as a liar just by your last posts and you can try and change the subject all you want but you know you have been defeated. It took you all night to think of your comeback and I bet you didn’t sleep well at all. You can take all the shots at me but the bottom line is you still can’t admit you were defeated.
–I’m not an “Online bully” and you are the one who is more in tune with being a bully by using such words as “Fool “dumb” and “idiot” before and after you have been proven wrong. I think you have to make up for some shortcoming in your real life.
–Me showing you evidence that you wanted and proving you wrong doesn’t make me a bully it just helps me proves you wrong. Your words are said out of embarrassment and until you can admit your defeat. By what was shown you are a prove liar, excuse maker and less than a man.
I will remind you of it every time I post

07/15, 10:51 AM

posted by:

A.J.

Everyone has their own opinions.

I dare say that the SRX looks better (inside and out) and drives better than the RX (as evidence of the article. I don’t have a Lexus dealer in my area – if I did, I’d drive both back to back.).

Overall, I think both are equal. From what I’ve seen, the SRX looks/drives better and is simpler to use, but the RX is more comfortable, more efficient, and likely more reliable.

But, time will tell for both of them, as the new generations were released for the same model year.

07/15, 10:55 AM

posted by:

tripleonefive

Look for Sj to change the subject and not admit that he was shown up THis is what he said
“Post a link to ONE review of the 2010 SRX (or 2007 for that matter) that claims the vehicle has hard plastics. Just ONE. Thats all that I ask.”
http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/new_cars/4323555.html
Also Aggie
SJ 79 was wrong bc he asked for a 2010 or 2007 and lied later as shown here
SJ 79-We are talking about the 2010 SRX. ?????
Now he is trying to make excuses and change his words around.
“that claims the vehicle has hard plastics” Oh but now its “I was talking about was the dashboard or other areas that consumers touch.”
Here are some more quotes
Popular mechanics says that the “fit and finish are two notches above the Caddy’s”
“the RX’s greater refinement and comfort”
“Forced to choose, we’d go with the Lexus”
You are not a man SJ

07/15, 11:04 AM

posted by:

anyclearer

you realize tripleonefive, that what you posted was someones opinion, we can all post opinions on here, they dont mean much. there are also articles out there stating the opposite, i just saw on tv from motorweek saying how they thought the srx was better then the “new” current model of rx and that interior and exterior was more appealing on the srx. Also that the ride was smooth and they were impressed and was a great improvement over the last gen. but im sure their opinion doesnt mean much to you.

07/15, 11:12 AM

posted by:

tripleonefive

dare say that the SRX looks better (inside and out) and drives better than the RX (as evidence of the article. I don’t have a Lexus dealer in my area – if I did, I’d drive both back to back.).
Depends on what driving characteristics you are looking for you are looking for The SRX is the sportier of the two. The Lexus offers a softer ride
Overall, I think both are equal.
-Opinion is great but the article states the RX’s greater refinement and comfort so they really arent equal and Forced to choose, we’d go with the Lexus
So dare I say the facts are the Lexus is better
Time will tell for the SRX to see if its durable reliable as the already PROVEN Lexus
You are not a man SJ

07/15, 11:22 AM

posted by:

tripleonefive

Well looking at the article POSTED there are factual mentions about the Lexus like the interior being two notches above the SRX,the speed advantage, fuel economy and the transmission being smoother etc
Yea opinion is great but based on the article posted the Lexus was the vehicle of choice.
Should this SRX not be an improvement over the previous one ?

07/15, 12:19 PM

posted by:

sj79

triple stupid:

Did you even read the review on THIS site? I notice you havent referenced it.

“Almost everything you touch on the dash, console and door panels is soft and you’ll also find elegant stitching across the dash. While the seat bottoms are comfortable, the seat backs are a touch on the firm side, in our opinion. Fit and finish on the inside was largely impressive on our pilot production vehicle…”

07/15, 12:33 PM

posted by:

tripleonefive

I will address you when you are man enough to admit defeat .The review on this site doesnt matter now What matter is your lies and excuses. Trying to change the subject wont help you. Ill post again

SJ “Post a link to ONE review of the 2010 SRX (or 2007 for that matter) that claims the vehicle has hard plastics. Just ONE. Thats all that I ask.”

http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/new_cars/4323555.html

You were proven wrong and you had to come up with some excuses. These are classic

“The Pop mechanics article seems to be biased against the SRX from the start”

“I was talking about was the dashboard or other areas that consumers touch.”

07/15, 2:55 PM

posted by:

A.J.

No excuses from me. The review was completely fair.

Now that I look at the IPs side by side, the Caddy’s is a bit busier – probably because it doesn’t have a controller like the RX. But I’m the kind of person that likes symmetrical dash designs.

But, I’d still go for the SRX – better drive, better looks (IMO), and it’s cheaper.

07/15, 3:17 PM

posted by:

sj79

“I will address you when you are man enough to admit defeat .The review on this site doesnt matter now What matter is your lies and excuses. Trying to change the subject wont help you. Ill post again ”

why does PM count and LLN not count in terms of reviews? You claim the SRX has an inferior interior (even though you’ve never been in one) and produce ONE review that complains about seat back coverings. I point out that virtually every other review raved over the interior and you say I am making up “excuses”. Actually I’m just proving you wrong- not that its hard to do.

When people evaluate interior quality they dont look at plastics that no one touches. They look at the dash, armrests, console, etc. Not seatbacks moron. Seatback are always hard plastic. YOu will find that on BMWs and Audis as well. Why would the SRX be any different. The fact that PM had to resort to criticizing the seat back plastics in order to insult the SRX shows how hard they had to try. Even so, they dont even say the interior overall was of low quality. They just said the seatbacks stood out as subpar compared to the rest of the interior.

I have yet to change the subject. Why do that when making you look so bad is so easy? Get a grip.

Where is that link backing up your claims about Toyota having far superior resale? Please tell me you have something.

07/15, 3:30 PM

posted by:

tripleonefive

I have yet to change the subject. This is the subject.

SJ “Post a link to ONE review of the 2010 SRX (or 2007 for that matter) that claims the vehicle has hard plastics. Just ONE. Thats all that I ask.”

http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/new_cars/4323555.html

Hard plastics was what you wanted and was what I delivered JUST ONE! I delievered.
Not all the bs you just posted. No excuses you can either

ADMIT YOUR DEFEAT OR ADMIT YOU ARE NOT A MAN

07/15, 4:19 PM

posted by:

tripleonefive

SJ79 – “Post a link to ONE review of the 2010 SRX (or 2007 for that matter) that claims the vehicle has hard plastics. Just ONE. Thats all that I ask.”

http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/new_cars/4323555.html

SJ79 -Why does PM count and LLN not count in terms of reviews?
—-Trying to change the subject and make excuses. You asked me to produce ONE review that claims the vehicle has hard plastics. Playing dumb (easy for you ) wont work

SJ79 -You claim the SRX has an inferior interior (even though you’ve never been in one)
—–Trying to change the subject. You didn’t ask if I had been in one .You asked for a claim that shows the vehicle hard plastics and you wanted a link that claims the vehicle has hard plastics.

SJ79 – “and produce ONE review”.
—-Right here is where you were outdone and defeated (and you know it). I produced the ONE review you thought didn’t exist. This was the “punch to the jaw” and you have been making excuses ever since

SJ79 – “When people evaluate interior quality they don’t look at plastics that no one touches. They look at the dash, armrests, console, etc. Not seatbacks moron.”
-Once again we see who the moron is. I’ll post it again. No specifics you asked for.

“Post a link to ONE review of the 2010 SRX (or 2007 for that matter) that claims the vehicle has hard plastics. Just ONE. Thats all that I ask.”

SJ79 -You will find that on BMWs and Audis as well. Why would the SRX be any different. The fact that PM had to resort to criticizing the seat back plastics in order to insult the SRX shows how hard they had to try
—-Trying to change the subject and use excuses. This is so shameful Now PM is bias apparently.

SJ79 -Even so, they don’t even say the interior overall was of low quality. They just said the seatbacks stood out as subpar compared to the rest of the interior.
–Trying to change the subject and use excuses, shameful. The article also said the Lexus interior is two notches above the Caddy interior.

SJ79 – “Actually I’m just proving you wrong- not that its hard to do.”
—You know thats not true lol. It’s obvious you have been proven wrong and are not man enough to own up to it. All the subject changing and excuses aren’t making your case better to yourself and to LLN. The walls have closed in on you. Since you seem to care what the other posters think it would be best for you to just own up to your defeat and save some of your dignity. You are just avoiding the inevitable.

Will your next post be more excuses and subject changing or are you going to
ADMIT DEFEAT OR ADMIT YOU ARE NOT A MAN

07/15, 5:32 PM

posted by:

aggie531

The seat back on my ‘01 MDX isnt hard plastic. The seat back on my 2003 TL Type -S isnt hard plastic.

You dont find the hard plastic on Acura seatbacks

07/15, 6:06 PM

posted by:

tripleonefive

Aggie

The seat back on my ‘01 MDX isnt hard plastic. The seat back on my 2003 TL Type -S isnt hard plastic.
You dont find the hard plastic on Acura seatbacks

-That is just his excuse bc he cant admit that he was outdone. Just like it was a 2010 or 2007 then it changed back to just 2010 when you showed him your link He has run out of excuses and is scrambling. Everything he has accused me of he is doing and its really ashamed to see him like this

07/17, 3:14 PM

posted by:

Walt

The downsized 2010 SRX looks way too similar to the new 2010 CTS Stationwagon.

I am not too sure why GM, being so cash strapped, felt Cadillac needed both right now.

07/21, 11:51 AM

posted by:

idrinorbarsaku

thats a great point! The seats in most leather trimmed american cars come with leather up front and plastic in the back!!! Why is that???

07/26, 9:18 PM

posted by:

LS7

NO POWER ADJUSTABLE STEERING WHEEL? wtf… wait.. why would you leave that out, when every single one of your competitor has it, and the likelyhood of your customer profile wanting it is probably pegged at 100%?

Don’t understand……..

It’s also an alright looking vehicle, not sexy. It looks like an Acura from 10 years ago. None offending, and everyone can agree with it.

07/27, 8:37 AM

posted by:

Bankruptcy2009

Impulsive your a retard. the RX rules and the Lincoln MKT Rules in looks styling and performance. over this junk daddy’s caddy.

07/28, 8:38 AM

posted by:

GMasaurus

I think this Caddy is a slick ride. Rather have this than a RX 350…or an MDX for that matter. Drove those two and they are way overrated.

08/15, 2:11 PM

posted by:

cooldude9305

currently the only company i am impressed with is cadillac. i mean this srx does not look to bad

08/15, 2:12 PM

posted by:

cooldude9305

im sorry the only gm company im impressed with

10/02, 10:18 AM

posted by:

ajm11

Here is a pretty good fact. Toyota is recalling 3.8 million vehicles which includes the Lexus RX due to floor mats that can cause the accelerator to get stuck. Toyota does not know how to fix this yet aside from pulling the mats right out of the vehicles. It is too bad that did not recall these vehicles before the family of 4 near San Diego perished in their Lexus RX when it accelerated out of control went over a guardrail and burst into flames.

I have no problem with Toyota or GM or any other car manufacturer for that matter. I dont consider recalls to be a real bad thing. It means the manufacturer has found a defect/design flaw and are doing something about it. From my thoughts, and this is just personal opinion. I would buy the Cadillac SRX over the Lexus RX. My reasoning on this is the Lexus RX looks too much like the Toyota Venza. Why would I spend an extra $10,000 on a vehicle that looks just as boring as the Venza.

 
 
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