Comments on: Cadillac to drop DTS or STS

By: CTS DRIVER

CTS DRIVER — Thu, 17 May 2007 22:34:53 +0000

^fleet sales and as boring as a lumberpile^^^^fleetwood.

By: DialM4Speed

DialM4Speed — Wed, 16 May 2007 22:26:31 +0000

I like the fact that Cadillac moved away from using stupid ass names like… Fleetwood… what the hell is a Fleetwood anyway? Most importantly I like the way there cars look and the fact that there trying to bring back rear wheel drive!

By: PrimeGTP

PrimeGTP — Wed, 16 May 2007 22:05:47 +0000

Don’t worry, if rumors are to be believed, we may see a GM V12 yet. It used to be rumors were just that, rumors. But in the past couple years, it seems like most of what Lutz hints at actually happens.

By: CTS DRIVER

CTS DRIVER — Wed, 16 May 2007 19:48:04 +0000

thanks primeGTP, it had me going, i thought it was a merc but was hoping gm had something up their sleeve.

By: roadmaster96

roadmaster96 — Wed, 16 May 2007 19:34:48 +0000

That commercial should show a Tahoe badge morphing into a malibu or an Impala badge, thats the real change thats going on. No one who can pay $150k for a car really cares at all about fuel prices, or the price of anything.

By: PrimeGTP

PrimeGTP — Wed, 16 May 2007 18:35:35 +0000

CTS, from what I understand the commercial was of a Mercedes V12 bi-turbo badge, and it faded to I think a Saturn Green Line badge. It’s meant to signify the changing market or something.

By: CTS DRIVER

CTS DRIVER — Wed, 16 May 2007 18:14:30 +0000

there is a gm comercial i saw last nite and in one of the pics was a badge that said v12 bi-turbo, wtf has anybody else seen it?

By: A4

A4 — Wed, 16 May 2007 16:27:43 +0000

first off, kill the DTS, keep the STS. Secondly, if theres only going to be one sedan above the CTS in the future, whats all this talk of a V12 supersedan?

By: jdepould

jdepould — Wed, 16 May 2007 14:34:12 +0000

The BLS is a Saab though.

By: deantj

deantj — Wed, 16 May 2007 13:42:25 +0000

That BLS has a fighting chance.

Any of you ever driven an Opel? I see them everywhere in Greece, and they’ve evolved into tight sporty sedans with awesome performance and excellent execution.

If they can bring that over unmolested (NOT like the Catera debacle) and really go to town on the design then the BLS has half a chance against an A4 or even 3-series. ESPECIALLY if they find a way to shoehorn a V8 in there. The interior of the Escalade shows that when they try, they can pull off something damn near world-class. My Audi driving buddy sat in the Escalade and thinks the ergonomics and F/F are par with the A4.

By: Get Real

Get Real — Wed, 16 May 2007 11:23:50 +0000

Drop the present QCS – quality control team.

Drop the present IDT – interior design team.

Build a CFT – Cadillac fight team.

The CFT will fight every white collar idiot at GM that tries to cheapen any Cadillac product in any way. The CFT will build a premium product with premium quality.

By: fan

fan — Wed, 16 May 2007 09:35:37 +0000

a turd will always be a turd, no matter what name u label on it… face that, cadillac…

if the guys would start building good cars again, gm might even sell their cars for some reason other than having the cheapest-ass price tag…

By: roadmaster96

roadmaster96 — Wed, 16 May 2007 07:19:01 +0000

The SLS is still too small to compete with the Germans and the LS460/600h but it’s a step in the correct direction.

By: autonutt

autonutt — Wed, 16 May 2007 05:37:40 +0000

http://www.leftlanenews.com/cadillac-sls-long-wheelbase-sts-for-china.html

By: autonutt

autonutt — Wed, 16 May 2007 05:36:30 +0000

There is already a blending of the STS and DTS philosophies.. larger RWD sedan with the interior spaciousness of the DTS.. but it’s only available in China. The SLS looks like the way of the future, I’m almost certain it will replace STS and DTS in the US market in its next generation, since the new CTS is almost the same size as the current STS, inside and out.

By: 1c3d0g

1c3d0g — Wed, 16 May 2007 02:30:54 +0000

Get rid of the DTS, Cadillac, the STS is way better anyway.

By: jdepould

jdepould — Wed, 16 May 2007 02:21:54 +0000

@F451 No doubt that there are some people who fit that description who know their stuff, but the vast majority . . .

By: LamborghiniZ

LamborghiniZ — Tue, 15 May 2007 23:25:13 +0000

BLS/CTS/New Name

Get rid of the STS name, get rid of the DTS name, especially the DTS name, and give us a brand new, full size, S-Class competitor.

By: Egbert Souse

Egbert Souse — Tue, 15 May 2007 22:22:35 +0000

Get rid of the DTS, screw old people put them in a Chevy Aveo hatchback

By: PrimeGTP

PrimeGTP — Tue, 15 May 2007 21:27:11 +0000

STS/CTS/BLS

I noticed how Lutz name-dropped the Sixteen without actually naming it at the end of the article.

By: F451

F451 — Tue, 15 May 2007 20:48:12 +0000

jdepould, I have to chuckle as I reside near an affluent retirement community. I can tell you that there are some very elderly people who are pretty hip, and drive some very expensive automobiles that are not at all large or synonymous with the negative connotations of “old age.” Then again, everyone here is heading in that direction.

By: rerone

rerone — Tue, 15 May 2007 20:39:50 +0000

I think Cadillac names were dropped because of ethnic connotations. Perhaps some names have lost their cache from over use on mediocre cars. But come on, if Cadillac ever produced a true rival to the Mercedes CL the name Eldorado or Biarritz would not keep people from buying it. Biarritz is after all a real place in France and Cadillac is a French sir name. Seems appropriate. Remember, Gottlieb Daimler chose to name his car brand Mercedes, a Spanish name.

By: F451

F451 — Tue, 15 May 2007 20:37:20 +0000

http://www.tubearoo.com/articles/84585/Top_Gear_Cadillac_Sixteen.html

By: F451

F451 — Tue, 15 May 2007 20:34:46 +0000

The DTS has been begging to be dropped for some time now. Just when I had lost hope in Cadillac they start thinking straight again. The entire Cadillac lineup, except the CTS needs to be rethought. I would love to see the Sixteen made as a sixteen cylinder model as it was proposed as it has some neat technology in the engine bay. Yes, I know the world is in the throes of an energy crisis, but the Sixteen would be for those with plenty of discretionary income. If you can come across the Top Gear video (Top Gear has been requiring that sites like YouTube take the video down) then you can see an excellent mini-review and road test of the Sixteen. I was able to save the video so I watch it occasionally.

By: CTS DRIVER

CTS DRIVER — Tue, 15 May 2007 20:15:23 +0000

hey i say a dts the other day with an old school vinyl roof, i bet that will look great in 10 years peeling off and rusting.

By: Rompn4x

Rompn4x — Tue, 15 May 2007 20:10:12 +0000

I miss the class names. Bring back Eldorado, Seville and DeVille. Lets go old school with the “Brougham” edition with a Landau roof lol. Actually I think Brougham was a carraige company back during the turn of the century. Not sure what style they were though

By: rerone

rerone — Tue, 15 May 2007 19:58:28 +0000

Hell, Lexus forced Mercedes to play around with its nomenclature for a decade. Mercedes had numeric alphabetic designations for decades then turned it around and upsidedown. It used to be SEL/SEC for Mercedes sedan and coupe then they dropped 2 letters. They put the letters first then changed the letters and changed the middle number for half liters of engine displacement. Confusing.

By: global_lightning

global_lightning — Tue, 15 May 2007 19:51:55 +0000

Cadillac small car = Cimarron
Cadillac medium car = Seville
Cadillac large car = Fleetwood
Cadillac truck = Rapper’s D-Lite

I’ll take mine with a V8-6-4 diesel

By: rerone

rerone — Tue, 15 May 2007 19:47:42 +0000

Actually the DTS,even in base trim level is impressive in several ways. The ride is the best ever for a Deville 4 door. It does have great bounce control. The steering is too slow though. I drive an STS V8 so I’m used to a more responsive handler. The main thing with the DTS is the styling. While greatly improved over the previous Deville, it still looks like an unsuccessful amalgam of various Cadillac elements.

By: rerone

rerone — Tue, 15 May 2007 19:36:59 +0000

Hope they don’t use the BLS name. Sounds stupid in English.

By: Brendino

Brendino — Tue, 15 May 2007 19:33:19 +0000

Alphanumerics aren’t arbitrary; they make the layman call it a Cadillac instead of a name.

And who here is under 30 or even 40 and really would like to have a Seville or a Deville or an Eldorado over an STS or a DTS? Some names just get old; letters don’t. The Z or the 3-series will never be outdated.

Anyways. Ditch em both. The DTS is tired and the STS, for whatever reason, never took off. (I liked its styling better than the CTS when they first came out, but apparently the auto world didn’t agree with me). If they’re gonna make the CTS bigger, then whatever slots above (keep the STS name) should be big, American, and unapologetic. Bring in a vastly improved BLS underneath and you have yourself a lineup.

By: Blakkarr

Blakkarr — Tue, 15 May 2007 19:32:02 +0000

My money is on DTS to be dropped. STS will go to ZETA platform allowing Sigma to be used as it was originally intended, for mid-sized cars.

By: buenos

buenos — Tue, 15 May 2007 19:14:57 +0000

Cadillac small car = MIC
Cadillac medium car = KEY
Cadillac large car = MOU
Cadillac truck = SE

who do we love?

By: maximus

maximus — Tue, 15 May 2007 19:09:41 +0000

these posts are too funny! hahaha

By: CTS DRIVER

CTS DRIVER — Tue, 15 May 2007 19:09:12 +0000

4 posts up ricardo i beat you to it.
..it does doesnt it bl****.
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drop the dts and bring the sls here for the people who need a larger car instead of the dts.