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		<title>By: jayjc08</title>
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		<dc:creator>jayjc08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 20:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>richard- No, I AM NOT talking about events leading up to the mini-ice age and cooling/heating around 800 to 600 years ago. I am talking about recorded anomalies that happened in the early to mid 1700&#039;s that were predominately not related to the &quot;mini&quot; ice age in medieval times. Not to be offensive though, but most of the information and clauses you are using for global warming seem to come from an 8th grade text book. Adaptation may lead to evolution, but the thing that not even Einstein could comprehend is the Earth without intelligent design. Whether or not you want to debate it, scientists have been very wrong before, and I have yet to get an explanation for the originate gases that supposedly formed our existence, and the very, very, very small chances of creating life if you get to that stage. And once again, whether or not you want to debate it, just be pucking happy to be alive, ty =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>richard- No, I AM NOT talking about events leading up to the mini-ice age and cooling/heating around 800 to 600 years ago. I am talking about recorded anomalies that happened in the early to mid 1700&#8217;s that were predominately not related to the &#8220;mini&#8221; ice age in medieval times. Not to be offensive though, but most of the information and clauses you are using for global warming seem to come from an 8th grade text book. Adaptation may lead to evolution, but the thing that not even Einstein could comprehend is the Earth without intelligent design. Whether or not you want to debate it, scientists have been very wrong before, and I have yet to get an explanation for the originate gases that supposedly formed our existence, and the very, very, very small chances of creating life if you get to that stage. And once again, whether or not you want to debate it, just be pucking happy to be alive, ty =)</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 14:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;NoNameDenton1&lt;/b&gt; wrote (No. 92): &lt;i&gt;... DNA proves that one species can not become another. ...&lt;/i&gt;

You have it exactly backwards. DNA is the explanation for evolution. It is a long, extensible, and rearrangeable molecule. DNA changes. Most changes are, however, insignificant. When adaptations in an existing form are expressed in its DNA, then there is a new form. In this case, the DNA change is significant. This is evolution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>NoNameDenton1</b> wrote (No. 92): <i>&#8230; DNA proves that one species can not become another. &#8230;</i></p>
<p>You have it exactly backwards. DNA is the explanation for evolution. It is a long, extensible, and rearrangeable molecule. DNA changes. Most changes are, however, insignificant. When adaptations in an existing form are expressed in its DNA, then there is a new form. In this case, the DNA change is significant. This is evolution.</p>
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		<title>By: NoNameDenton1</title>
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		<dc:creator>NoNameDenton1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 03:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, adaptation and evolution are two different things, maybe you should buy a dictionary or science book. By the way, DNA proves that one species can not become another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, adaptation and evolution are two different things, maybe you should buy a dictionary or science book. By the way, DNA proves that one species can not become another.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 03:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;NoNameDenton1&lt;/b&gt; wrote (No. 90): &lt;i&gt;Adpation is not evolution ...&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s spelled &lt;i&gt;adaptation&lt;/i&gt;. It is the definition of evolution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>NoNameDenton1</b> wrote (No. 90): <i>Adpation is not evolution &#8230;</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s spelled <i>adaptation</i>. It is the definition of evolution.</p>
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		<title>By: NoNameDenton1</title>
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		<dc:creator>NoNameDenton1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 02:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adpation is not evolution genius and Scientific American has become part of the Lunatic Left, why don&#039;t you read a book (that is like a long magazine, only on one subject and usually one or two authors) on who science has become politicized.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adpation is not evolution genius and Scientific American has become part of the Lunatic Left, why don&#8217;t you read a book (that is like a long magazine, only on one subject and usually one or two authors) on who science has become politicized.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 00:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;NoNameDenton1&lt;/b&gt; wrote (No. 88): &lt;i&gt;... I notice you did not touch my comments ...&lt;/i&gt;

You mixed a nutty idea like no global warming with an even nuttier idea like intelligent design and want me to comment on it? You believe that &lt;i&gt;Scientific American&lt;/i&gt;, a science magazine founded in 1845, is a screed of the Lunatic Left? Is that your idea of truth and logic?

When you go for your flu shot next Winter, remember to tell the nurse  that you want the vaccine to combat the intelligently designed virus rather than the evolved virus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>NoNameDenton1</b> wrote (No. 88): <i>&#8230; I notice you did not touch my comments &#8230;</i></p>
<p>You mixed a nutty idea like no global warming with an even nuttier idea like intelligent design and want me to comment on it? You believe that <i>Scientific American</i>, a science magazine founded in 1845, is a screed of the Lunatic Left? Is that your idea of truth and logic?</p>
<p>When you go for your flu shot next Winter, remember to tell the nurse  that you want the vaccine to combat the intelligently designed virus rather than the evolved virus.</p>
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		<title>By: NoNameDenton1</title>
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		<dc:creator>NoNameDenton1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 21:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard, I notice you did not touch my comments, were they too close to the truth and too logical for you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard, I notice you did not touch my comments, were they too close to the truth and too logical for you?</p>
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		<title>By: Impulsive</title>
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		<dc:creator>Impulsive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 19:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am more than you in every way, fuckwad ... idiots like you are the reason why your country is a failure with the worst to come. Learn some reading comprehension skills shit-for-brains ... go back and read my two posts again and again ... maybe you can get some help to better understand ... you are a waste of life, RETARD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am more than you in every way, ****wad &#8230; idiots like you are the reason why your country is a failure with the worst to come. Learn some reading comprehension skills ****-for-brains &#8230; go back and read my two posts again and again &#8230; maybe you can get some help to better understand &#8230; you are a waste of life, RETARD.</p>
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		<title>By: HemiRoadRunner</title>
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		<dc:creator>HemiRoadRunner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 18:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude, you are so much of a moron I can&#039;t even begin to explain it to you. You really think that having the government control your life FOR YOU is the best thing? What a loser. It&#039;s not my fault your not man enough or responsible enough to make your own decisions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, you are so much of a moron I can&#8217;t even begin to explain it to you. You really think that having the government control your life FOR YOU is the best thing? What a loser. It&#8217;s not my fault your not man enough or responsible enough to make your own decisions.</p>
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		<title>By: Impulsive</title>
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		<dc:creator>Impulsive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 17:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;roadrunner&#039;, you stupid fuckwad, go back and read my last post ... I gave you a clear example of why freedom leads to extremes ... do you understand what you read or do you only see what you ignorantly disagree with, RETARD?

Why are banks essentially insolvent/bankrupt? Why are they crying now to have someone/anyone help them stay afloat by buying up equity stakes? Why do the central banks have to waste taxpayer money to lend to the failures? Unrestrained greed needs to be kept in check at ALL cost. Go back and read, sheep-raping fuckface.

Where in my post did I state Hummers were disallowed, fucking RETARD? I always knew you were an imbecile but this cements your coffin shut permanently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;roadrunner&#8217;, you stupid ****wad, go back and read my last post &#8230; I gave you a clear example of why freedom leads to extremes &#8230; do you understand what you read or do you only see what you ignorantly disagree with, RETARD?</p>
<p>Why are banks essentially insolvent/bankrupt? Why are they crying now to have someone/anyone help them stay afloat by buying up equity stakes? Why do the central banks have to waste taxpayer money to lend to the failures? Unrestrained greed needs to be kept in check at ALL cost. Go back and read, sheep-raping ****face.</p>
<p>Where in my post did I state Hummers were disallowed, ****ing RETARD? I always knew you were an imbecile but this cements your coffin shut permanently.</p>
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		<title>By: olds307</title>
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		<dc:creator>olds307</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 17:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>125,000 for high gas prices &quot;social engineering&quot;.
196,000 for &quot;global warming&quot; &quot;social engineering&quot;.

nuff said</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>125,000 for high gas prices &#8220;social engineering&#8221;.<br />
196,000 for &#8220;global warming&#8221; &#8220;social engineering&#8221;.</p>
<p>nuff said</p>
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		<title>By: HemiRoadRunner</title>
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		<dc:creator>HemiRoadRunner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 14:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you guys serious? Now we&#039;re debating the earth&#039;s climate cycle&#039;s? Where is Al Gore? I want to kick him in the nuts for starting this BS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you guys serious? Now we&#8217;re debating the earth&#8217;s climate cycle&#8217;s? Where is Al Gore? I want to kick him in the nuts for starting this BS.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 14:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;jayjc08&lt;/b&gt; wrote (No. 75): &lt;i&gt;... There was warming on an even quicker and unusual scale for periods lasting short decades in the 1700&#039;s, some of the mid 1800&#039;s and now. ...&lt;/i&gt;

You are getting several events connected to the Little Ice Age confused. This was a traumatic period of Earth&#039;s history. It began long before the 1700s. I suggest that you do a little research on the period prior to further commentary.

&lt;b&gt;carstuff&lt;/b&gt; wrote (No. 77): &lt;i&gt;... Anyway it goes over how the global temps are always changing due to 3 factors. One is earth tilt, which changes over time. One is average distance from sun, which changes over time, and I forget the 3rd. ...&lt;/i&gt;

With all due respect, this is absolute nonsense. Is this what they teach you at Cranbrook? Let&#039;s take a few things in order:

1. There are indeed variations in the Earth&#039;s surface temperature. For the past 100 years, those variations are superimposed on a general upward trend.

2. The Earth axis tilt has not changed significantly in millions of years. One of the obvious consequences of the axis tilt are the locations of the Arctic Circle and Antarctic Circle. From the nearest Pole to one of these circles, there is 24 hours darkness during winter and 24 hours of daylight during summer. This gives rise to the seasons. Without the tilt, the entire surface of the Earth would have 12 hours daylight followed by 12 hours of darkness year round. There would be no seasons. We would have 365.25 days of temperate weather each year.

3. The Earth has an elliptical (oval-shaped) orbit about the Sun with the Sun at one focus of the ellipse. In the Northern Hemisphere, we are closer to the Sun during the &lt;i&gt;Winter&lt;/i&gt;. The Southern Hemisphere is closer to the Sun during the &lt;i&gt;Summer&lt;/i&gt; which they experience at the same time as the Northern Hemisphere&#039;s Winter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>jayjc08</b> wrote (No. 75): <i>&#8230; There was warming on an even quicker and unusual scale for periods lasting short decades in the 1700&#8217;s, some of the mid 1800&#8217;s and now. &#8230;</i></p>
<p>You are getting several events connected to the Little Ice Age confused. This was a traumatic period of Earth&#8217;s history. It began long before the 1700s. I suggest that you do a little research on the period prior to further commentary.</p>
<p><b>carstuff</b> wrote (No. 77): <i>&#8230; Anyway it goes over how the global temps are always changing due to 3 factors. One is earth tilt, which changes over time. One is average distance from sun, which changes over time, and I forget the 3rd. &#8230;</i></p>
<p>With all due respect, this is absolute nonsense. Is this what they teach you at Cranbrook? Let&#8217;s take a few things in order:</p>
<p>1. There are indeed variations in the Earth&#8217;s surface temperature. For the past 100 years, those variations are superimposed on a general upward trend.</p>
<p>2. The Earth axis tilt has not changed significantly in millions of years. One of the obvious consequences of the axis tilt are the locations of the Arctic Circle and Antarctic Circle. From the nearest Pole to one of these circles, there is 24 hours darkness during winter and 24 hours of daylight during summer. This gives rise to the seasons. Without the tilt, the entire surface of the Earth would have 12 hours daylight followed by 12 hours of darkness year round. There would be no seasons. We would have 365.25 days of temperate weather each year.</p>
<p>3. The Earth has an elliptical (oval-shaped) orbit about the Sun with the Sun at one focus of the ellipse. In the Northern Hemisphere, we are closer to the Sun during the <i>Winter</i>. The Southern Hemisphere is closer to the Sun during the <i>Summer</i> which they experience at the same time as the Northern Hemisphere&#8217;s Winter.</p>
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		<title>By: xyunya</title>
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		<dc:creator>xyunya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 13:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CAFE regulations are inconsequential at this point. With $4/gallon large cars and trucks will impersonate dinosaurs faster then dinosaurs could themselves. If gas will be $6-7 in 2012 CAFE regulations will be achieved by all manufacturers very  early (say 2012). 
The government actually failed to smooth transition with regulations and taxes 3-4 years ago when prices started to climb up. Now market will take care of our national wastefulness. The same cast of character who is deploring government intervention will be demanding intervention to lower the cost of oil. 
There is Hungarian expression: shit in one hand wish into another; see which one fills first. We&#039;ll be floating in  shit before price of oil gets back to $100/barrel ($3.75/gallon price point).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CAFE regulations are inconsequential at this point. With $4/gallon large cars and trucks will impersonate dinosaurs faster then dinosaurs could themselves. If gas will be $6-7 in 2012 CAFE regulations will be achieved by all manufacturers very  early (say 2012).<br />
The government actually failed to smooth transition with regulations and taxes 3-4 years ago when prices started to climb up. Now market will take care of our national wastefulness. The same cast of character who is deploring government intervention will be demanding intervention to lower the cost of oil.<br />
There is Hungarian expression: **** in one hand wish into another; see which one fills first. We&#8217;ll be floating in  **** before price of oil gets back to $100/barrel ($3.75/gallon price point).</p>
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		<title>By: HemiRoadRunner</title>
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		<dc:creator>HemiRoadRunner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 13:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who is the RETARD that said freedom leads to extremes and we need government control? ABSOLUTE POWER leads to extremes. If some idiot wants to buy a Hummer, than they can buy it, it&#039;s none of your damn business. I would personally never buy a POS SUV, but that&#039;s me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who is the RETARD that said freedom leads to extremes and we need government control? ABSOLUTE POWER leads to extremes. If some idiot wants to buy a Hummer, than they can buy it, it&#8217;s none of your damn business. I would personally never buy a POS SUV, but that&#8217;s me.</p>
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		<title>By: HemiRoadRunner</title>
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		<dc:creator>HemiRoadRunner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 13:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^^^ WTF? I leave for a week and now there&#039;s poetry on here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^^^ WTF? I leave for a week and now there&#8217;s poetry on here?</p>
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		<title>By: olds307</title>
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		<dc:creator>olds307</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 13:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t never try to judge me dude
You don&#039;t know what the fuck I&#039;ve been through
But, I know something about you
You went to Cranbrook
That&#039;s a private school
What&#039;s the matter dawg, you embarrased?
This guy&#039;s a gangsta? His real names Clarence
And Clarence lives at home with both parents
And Clarence&#039; parents have a real good marriage

This guy don&#039;t wanna battle, he&#039;s shook
Cuz there ain&#039;t no such things as half weight crooks
He&#039;s scared to death, he&#039;s scared to look
In his fuckin&#039; yearbook
FUCK CRANBROOK!!!

lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t never try to judge me dude<br />
You don&#8217;t know what the **** I&#8217;ve been through<br />
But, I know something about you<br />
You went to Cranbrook<br />
That&#8217;s a private school<br />
What&#8217;s the matter dawg, you embarrased?<br />
This guy&#8217;s a gangsta? His real names Clarence<br />
And Clarence lives at home with both parents<br />
And Clarence&#8217; parents have a real good marriage</p>
<p>This guy don&#8217;t wanna battle, he&#8217;s shook<br />
Cuz there ain&#8217;t no such things as half weight crooks<br />
He&#8217;s scared to death, he&#8217;s scared to look<br />
In his ****in&#8217; yearbook<br />
**** CRANBROOK!!!</p>
<p>lol</p>
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		<title>By: carstuff</title>
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		<dc:creator>carstuff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 11:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard, at out local science institute (Cranbrook, Michigan) they have a graph of the temperatures back over many years.  It shows all kinds of ups and downs in global temperatures.  It has been there for at least 20 years so it was there before all this global warming stuff.  In fact I think it was put up when all the scientists were worried about global cooling (remember that?).
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Anyway it goes over how the global temps are always changing due to 3 factors.  One is earth tilt, which changes over time.  One is average distance from sun, which changes over time, and I forget the 3rd.  Anyway these 3 variations occur independent of each other and cause wide swings in temps.  If all 3 occur at once the earth is warmer.  If all are at the other end we have a cooler earth.  In between we have all kinds of temperature swings.  Right now we are coming out of what they call a mini ice age that has been going on for hundreds of years.
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So I do believe we have global warming, however I am not sure how much man is causing it.  I do believe we should do as much to minimize our impact on our earth as possible but doubt we can do anything to stop what is happening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard, at out local science institute (Cranbrook, Michigan) they have a graph of the temperatures back over many years.  It shows all kinds of ups and downs in global temperatures.  It has been there for at least 20 years so it was there before all this global warming stuff.  In fact I think it was put up when all the scientists were worried about global cooling (remember that?).<br />
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Anyway it goes over how the global temps are always changing due to 3 factors.  One is earth tilt, which changes over time.  One is average distance from sun, which changes over time, and I forget the 3rd.  Anyway these 3 variations occur independent of each other and cause wide swings in temps.  If all 3 occur at once the earth is warmer.  If all are at the other end we have a cooler earth.  In between we have all kinds of temperature swings.  Right now we are coming out of what they call a mini ice age that has been going on for hundreds of years.<br />
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So I do believe we have global warming, however I am not sure how much man is causing it.  I do believe we should do as much to minimize our impact on our earth as possible but doubt we can do anything to stop what is happening.</p>
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		<title>By: carstuff</title>
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		<dc:creator>carstuff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 11:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lots of errors above.
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1) The CAFE requirement legislated is for all vehicles sold per year, not by individual OEM&#039;s.  i.e. GM does not have to meet a 36 mpg requirement.
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2) Individual vehicles have to meet specific CAFE requirements by  footprint.
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So GM does not have the overall CAFE requirement of 36 mpg.  Instead someone will calculate it by the sales of their vehicles every year.  
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So if GM only built trucks their overall CAFE requirement would be somewhere under 30 mpg.  If they decided to build only small fuel efficient vehicles their requirement would be somewhere over 40 mpg.
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This also means companies like Honda will still need to spend large amounts of money to get their small cars more efficient to meet their footprint required MPG.
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So GM has a decision to make.  Do they spend the big bucks to get their big trucks to meet the new numbers or pack it in and only build small cars/trucks?  Because people will still need the large trucks I forsee only GM and Ford spending the big money on trucks and prices to go up somewhere north of $5000.  With no competition they will get the money but volume will drop hugely.  What will happen is a new class of truck that is smaller, lighter but still have the basic load/towing capability of the 1500 series truck today will be developed.  All fullline manufacturers will offer this smaller truck.

In the end &quot;IF&quot; gas continues to cost more, the CAFE average will be more quickly met than anyone realized.  The consumer will buy the smaller more efficient vehicles and the average US fleet fuel economy will rise  by the volume mix alone.  Sure the government has footprint requirements but the basic law signed in by our congress just states 36 mpg, not how to get there.  The footprint numbers were estimates to get their.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of errors above.<br />
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1) The CAFE requirement legislated is for all vehicles sold per year, not by individual OEM&#8217;s.  i.e. GM does not have to meet a 36 mpg requirement.<br />
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2) Individual vehicles have to meet specific CAFE requirements by  footprint.<br />
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So GM does not have the overall CAFE requirement of 36 mpg.  Instead someone will calculate it by the sales of their vehicles every year.<br />
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So if GM only built trucks their overall CAFE requirement would be somewhere under 30 mpg.  If they decided to build only small fuel efficient vehicles their requirement would be somewhere over 40 mpg.<br />
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This also means companies like Honda will still need to spend large amounts of money to get their small cars more efficient to meet their footprint required MPG.<br />
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So GM has a decision to make.  Do they spend the big bucks to get their big trucks to meet the new numbers or pack it in and only build small cars/trucks?  Because people will still need the large trucks I forsee only GM and Ford spending the big money on trucks and prices to go up somewhere north of $5000.  With no competition they will get the money but volume will drop hugely.  What will happen is a new class of truck that is smaller, lighter but still have the basic load/towing capability of the 1500 series truck today will be developed.  All fullline manufacturers will offer this smaller truck.</p>
<p>In the end &#8220;IF&#8221; gas continues to cost more, the CAFE average will be more quickly met than anyone realized.  The consumer will buy the smaller more efficient vehicles and the average US fleet fuel economy will rise  by the volume mix alone.  Sure the government has footprint requirements but the basic law signed in by our congress just states 36 mpg, not how to get there.  The footprint numbers were estimates to get their.</p>
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		<title>By: jayjc08</title>
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		<dc:creator>jayjc08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 10:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard- If you&#039;d like to believe that, then be my guest, but there are also similar events recorded in human history, and I&#039;m not talking about a few thousand years ago. There was warming on an even quicker and unusual scale for periods lasting short decades in the 1700&#039;s, some of the mid 1800&#039;s and now. However, something that is fact that neither of us can argue is climate CAN change weather in a period we&#039;re talking about, a few hundred years. Species ARE wiped out because they cannot adapt to past climate changes quickly or effectively enough. You see this indoctrination as global warming, I see it as a way to control supply and decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard- If you&#8217;d like to believe that, then be my guest, but there are also similar events recorded in human history, and I&#8217;m not talking about a few thousand years ago. There was warming on an even quicker and unusual scale for periods lasting short decades in the 1700&#8217;s, some of the mid 1800&#8217;s and now. However, something that is fact that neither of us can argue is climate CAN change weather in a period we&#8217;re talking about, a few hundred years. Species ARE wiped out because they cannot adapt to past climate changes quickly or effectively enough. You see this indoctrination as global warming, I see it as a way to control supply and decision.</p>
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		<title>By: olds307</title>
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		<dc:creator>olds307</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 07:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole R-12 thing is a scam, because DuPont&#039;s patents ran out on it, so they conspired the whole scam so that they could collect royalties on R-134a.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole R-12 thing is a scam, because DuPont&#8217;s patents ran out on it, so they conspired the whole scam so that they could collect royalties on R-134a.</p>
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		<title>By: NoNameDenton1</title>
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		<dc:creator>NoNameDenton1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 03:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, the guy who wrote that book briefs the US Conress and EU parliement on the issue of global warming, plus the Scientific American is run by politically motivated scientists who also discredit scientists who believe in intelligent design, nice smoke screen though. And I read the article on the ozone layer fixing itself and even scientists can not say why it is fixing itself as fast as possible, so stop spreading lies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, the guy who wrote that book briefs the US Conress and EU parliement on the issue of global warming, plus the Scientific American is run by politically motivated scientists who also discredit scientists who believe in intelligent design, nice smoke screen though. And I read the article on the ozone layer fixing itself and even scientists can not say why it is fixing itself as fast as possible, so stop spreading lies.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 03:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;NoNameDenton1&lt;/b&gt; wrote (No. 70): &lt;i&gt;Even that hole in the atmosphere is mysteriously fixing itself on its own&lt;/i&gt;

No, that is completely incorrect. The hole in the ozone layer is being fixed by the global switch from the chlorofluorocarbons which caused it. Don&#039;t believe it? Go into any store that supplies refrigerants and try to buy R-12 or R-22.

As for global warming, it is real and it is not the consequence of natural climate cycles. Natural climate cycles require millennia to manifest. During that time, life on the planet has time to adapt to the changing climate. However, this man-induced global climate change began about 100 years ago and is proceeding rapidly. There is little time for life to adapt to the changes.

&lt;i&gt;The Politically Incorrect Guide to Global Warming&lt;/i&gt; is a political screed, not a science book. That&#039;s why it is promoted in &lt;i&gt;Human Events&lt;/i&gt;, but not in &lt;i&gt;Scientific American&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>NoNameDenton1</b> wrote (No. 70): <i>Even that hole in the atmosphere is mysteriously fixing itself on its own</i></p>
<p>No, that is completely incorrect. The hole in the ozone layer is being fixed by the global switch from the chlorofluorocarbons which caused it. Don&#8217;t believe it? Go into any store that supplies refrigerants and try to buy R-12 or R-22.</p>
<p>As for global warming, it is real and it is not the consequence of natural climate cycles. Natural climate cycles require millennia to manifest. During that time, life on the planet has time to adapt to the changing climate. However, this man-induced global climate change began about 100 years ago and is proceeding rapidly. There is little time for life to adapt to the changes.</p>
<p><i>The Politically Incorrect Guide to Global Warming</i> is a political screed, not a science book. That&#8217;s why it is promoted in <i>Human Events</i>, but not in <i>Scientific American</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: injunraiv</title>
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		<dc:creator>injunraiv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 01:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey noname, the reason Texas doesn&#039;t have rolling blackouts is Enron isn&#039;t in charge of the grid.  That was the whole cause back then, IIRC.  Seems strangely like something that is happening today, but I can&#039;t seem to put my finger on it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey noname, the reason Texas doesn&#8217;t have rolling blackouts is Enron isn&#8217;t in charge of the grid.  That was the whole cause back then, IIRC.  Seems strangely like something that is happening today, but I can&#8217;t seem to put my finger on it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: NoNameDenton1</title>
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		<dc:creator>NoNameDenton1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 23:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even that hole in the atmosphere is mysteriously fixing itself on its own</description>
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		<title>By: olds307</title>
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		<dc:creator>olds307</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 23:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^ 100% correct</description>
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		<title>By: nitehawk</title>
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		<dc:creator>nitehawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 22:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Global warming is a sham...is a natural geological cycle that could begin to reverse itself over the extent of a few decades</description>
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		<title>By: jayjc08</title>
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		<dc:creator>jayjc08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 22:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>deanster- There&#039;s been a HUGE amount of advertising just recently in my area about &quot;saving the planet&quot; and &quot;GLOBAL WARMING&quot;. I thought it had gone silent a while ago too, but oddly enough it&#039;s back on television every second, about GLOBAL WARMING.

Next option with short attention spans is brainwashing to get it stuck in our heads. GLOBAL WARMING.
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GLOBAL WARMING.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>deanster- There&#8217;s been a HUGE amount of advertising just recently in my area about &#8220;saving the planet&#8221; and &#8220;GLOBAL WARMING&#8221;. I thought it had gone silent a while ago too, but oddly enough it&#8217;s back on television every second, about GLOBAL WARMING.</p>
<p>Next option with short attention spans is brainwashing to get it stuck in our heads. GLOBAL WARMING.<br />
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GLOBAL WARMING.</p>
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		<title>By: SigmaHyperion</title>
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		<dc:creator>SigmaHyperion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 22:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Supply and Demand has TWO portions to it, you know...

Just because home prices skyrocket doesn&#039;t necessarily mean there&#039;s a boatload of people that want to live there.  It could also mean that Supply is constrained.

California&#039;s problem isn&#039;t so much Demand, only 3 of the Top 100 fastest growing counties are in California -- that&#039;s as many as Minnesota, and Georgia of all places has TWELVE on the list.  California&#039;s problem isn&#039;t Demand, it&#039;s a very tight supply.  There&#039;s not a lot of new homes being built and there&#039;s very few on the market within reasonably commuting distance of where people want to live.  That causes prices to rise.  

As a point of fact, Denton County (where I presume &quot;NoNameDenton1&quot; is from) has been one of the Top 5 fastest-growing counties in the Nation for the past several years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Supply and Demand has TWO portions to it, you know&#8230;</p>
<p>Just because home prices skyrocket doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean there&#8217;s a boatload of people that want to live there.  It could also mean that Supply is constrained.</p>
<p>California&#8217;s problem isn&#8217;t so much Demand, only 3 of the Top 100 fastest growing counties are in California &#8212; that&#8217;s as many as Minnesota, and Georgia of all places has TWELVE on the list.  California&#8217;s problem isn&#8217;t Demand, it&#8217;s a very tight supply.  There&#8217;s not a lot of new homes being built and there&#8217;s very few on the market within reasonably commuting distance of where people want to live.  That causes prices to rise.  </p>
<p>As a point of fact, Denton County (where I presume &#8220;NoNameDenton1&#8243; is from) has been one of the Top 5 fastest-growing counties in the Nation for the past several years.</p>
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		<title>By: NoNameDenton1</title>
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		<dc:creator>NoNameDenton1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 21:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever you want to believe</description>
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		<title>By: LaCaLover</title>
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		<dc:creator>LaCaLover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 21:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t leave California for somewhere cheaper even if I were destitute. The best places to live in the world are always the most expensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t leave California for somewhere cheaper even if I were destitute. The best places to live in the world are always the most expensive.</p>
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		<title>By: NoNameDenton1</title>
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		<dc:creator>NoNameDenton1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 20:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever you need to delude yourself into thinking</description>
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		<title>By: LaCaLover</title>
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		<dc:creator>LaCaLover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 20:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its the illegals leaving that is why the cost of living is rising</description>
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		<title>By: NoNameDenton1</title>
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		<dc:creator>NoNameDenton1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 20:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That explains why so many people are moving out of California because it is too expensive to live there.</description>
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		<title>By: LaCaLover</title>
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		<dc:creator>LaCaLover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 20:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Supply and demand, lots of people want to live in California which makes it expensive.</description>
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