What about all the false claims about high Civic quality? Everyone knows those are BS too.

Is it wrong that I’m smiling right now?

lmfao! but wait this cant happen honda and toyota are the most reliable with the best resale and the best mpg. I am surprised this person who is suing is not shot dead in the street.

mm.. yes..

Honda has been kinda lacking in the MPG department lately.
I like them a lot, but they haven’t been ahead of the curve for a long time.
They lost their dominance in the 90’s and haven’t really come back.

<– happily getting 31mpg hwy @ 70mph on his ‘96 BMW w/a 2.8l inline 6…
<– was getting 32mpg hwy @ 70mph in his 95 acura integra LS with a 1.8 inline 4…
wtf?

Smile away Johnny..Smile away.

i love diving my vehicle like a regular car

NICE……We are going to see the same false ads about the new insight. I just can’t see it to beat the Prius for EPA.

I want to sue them for building oversized door stops.

Yeah I’d thrash on that car the same as any.

Retards and lawsuits, hand in hand.

Hell, I could get the Prius down to like 20MPG the way I drive most days. I’d better cry!

Even their cylinder deactivation or whatever is not helping much….and dont even talk about the torque…:)

Can I sue Ron Jeremy for false claims on pëñïs enlargement drugs? Not that I have taken any.

:O

oh wow, the only reason i havent bought a honda was its trust issues with their mile-per-gallon…and now this happens!!!sometimes it pays to hold back from what you want. i am more than happy with the 33mpg(cruise at 68mph)(just fast enough to go fast, but not fast enough to get a speeding ticket where i live…i hate cops) that i get in my passat 2.0T, the window sticker says it gets 28mpg:)

germans underestimate their mpgs…asians overestimate them. i think its becoming more obvious. either that or an Asian’s leg is too short to actually give it as much power as we “taller” people give them on these tests

moparsalesman

but wait this cant happen honda and toyota are the most reliable with the best resale and the best mpg.

I am guessing that is supposed to be a rib at my buddy 1115

1115 is right when he says that you know. He is a little modest though.He never gives examples or backs it up with links to his sources. So I will for him, maybe then you and the other guys will stop harassing him.

2009 Camry LE V6 new vehicle purchase price $33036 Source (toyota.ca)
2009 Fusion SEL V6 new vehicle purchase price $22399 source (ford.ca)
Difference $10637 for the Camry

2006 Camry LE V6 w/50000km $13801 Source(CBB at toyota.ca)
2006 Fusion SEL V6 w/50000km $12026 Source(CBB at toyota.ca)
Difference $ 1775 for the Camry

Camry wins!!!!!

So even though the Camry depreciates much faster it still as the higher resale.

@ moparsalesman

Honda/ Toyota don’t shoot people to cover **** up like GM, Ford, Chrysler and Hillary Clinton.

They offer extended warrenties.

Bubs, you should know logic, examples and links have no power over the ubertroll known as 1115. But sometimes it is sure fun to poke him a little, ain’t it?

The funny (or sad) thing here is Honda is already behind the curve with fuel economy, and now we find out their numbers may be bogus!! Wheee!!

LOL…. He’s the Stupid one believing the adds in the first place…

Leave me alone. I can’t help it hat I’m a fat out of work 24 year old that lives with my Mom and her boyfriends in a trailer.
I don’t need to make sense nor do I have anything to prove to you patriotic non KBB believing fools.

Yea fly your stupid flag, liife has been unfair to me so I want to hate all that is American.

Love

1115
xoxoxoxoxoxox

Bubs,

WTF does that post have to do with a Civic Hybrid?

I’m sorry; was it me that was saying that hybrids were nothing but hype? Who was that from yesterday?

BTW, honda already had to lower their estimated fuel economy once before for this car.
this will be round two.

“germans underestimate their mpgs…asians overestimate them. i think its becoming more obvious. either that or an Asian’s leg is too short to actually give it as much power as we “taller” people give them on these tests”

^— LOLOL

Its not getting any better for these days.

this issue, this car, I care not.

OMG!!! Mutant@DCX is actually Yoda.

My two cents, I’ve never bought into the hybrid hype from the start – no matter who makes them. The Europeans see diesels as the way to go and I agree with them. They are a proven technology that is efficient, the new engines are clean and if maintained are more durable than their gasoline counterparts.

Two key points that few care to discuss are: The true cost benefit ratio of a hybrid over its life cycle including the cost of new battery packs and disposition of old packs and more importantly, the market for used hybrids after they come off lease after say 50k. Who wants to buy a used hybrid? What are the costs for induction motors and battery packs (~$10k) after the warranty period – even if it’s an extended 60-80k. One hardly ever hears about these topics. All you hear about is the here and now; not the whole life cycle.

DB9

Top Gear made the point about the importance of how a hybrid is driven by having a fuel economy “race” between an M3 and the Prius. The M3 effortlessly went around the track while the Prius had to be driven quite hard to keep up. The final tally showed that the M3 got better MPG during the drive on the track.

Moral of the story.

If you drive with enthusiasm you might as well get the car that is fun to drive.

Heavy foot plus Prius equals total waste.

I’m waiting for the Dodge Challenger SRT-8 Hybrid.

“The funny (or sad) thing here is Honda is already behind the curve with fuel economy, and now we find out their numbers may be bogus!! Wheee!!”

InjunRaiv.. the numbers aren’t Honda’s, the EPA creates the numbers based on their testing. So it’s not Honda’s fault if they know how to tune their vehicles to provide optimal economy when exposed to EPA test conditions, and not as much in real-world driving.. that’s marketing!

1996 Cadillac Deville gets 32mpg@55mph.

This guy case will go down i a great blaze of fail.
928 and others made a great point.
If you love pressing the fun pedal your not going to get great mileage with a hybrid or an vehicle that’s meant to be fuel efficient. I haven’t seen the Civic Hybrid commercial that states drive it like you stole it and you’ll get great mileage. It shows a guy driving the car in a serene almost motionless stay. like your napping with your eyes open. If he drove it like an old lady on Sunday a hybrid would have been great for him, but he didn’t so it sucked much like his case.

“The crux of Paduano’s complaint is the claim in Honda’s ads that EPA mileage can be achieved by diving the vehicle like a regular car.”

James Bond and Go-Go Gadget get 100 nautical miles to the gallon. You?

I personally feel that driving with a beer in one hand and yourself in the other hand does increase mileage, if not safety
DrFill

This is true that there is one born every minute. Except in California, there are more then one born every minute. The numbers are published by division of US government, only Republic of California would allow to proceed and waste their taxpayers money on this one.
Strangely, I think Dr. Fill is onto something!

I love how you idiots get on here an act as if you have given examples and sent links when you haventBubs which car is worth more and more reliable Camry wins sorry but its the truth
Injuraiv the only thing that is fun is poking fun at you being unemployed and funnier that you sell Pontiaces That get a laugh every time
Mopar Not even worth it lol
Uh ..an the EPA sets numbers for the hybrids they had this story on LLN last year you morons
Oh and last but not least when is the Volt coming out
Haha T15 wins again
sorry boys

DrFill, that was awesome. Now try the same thing with a lit smoke and a bag of beef jerky between your legs.

anti believer wtf are you talking about. did you know for about $1500 on most chryslers you can buy a lifetime new car wrap to go with the lifetime powertrain

But this suppose to be Honda’s bread and butter since they canned the NSX,S2000 and everything proformance

AAAAAAAhaHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA eat that honda.

God bless america. Good lawyers keep these monsters honest

From Edmunds
Ford has been making a lot of noise about the Fusion Hybrid’s superiority in this regard. The company estimates that the EPA will certify the Fusion Hybrid at 41 mpg in the city and 36 mpg on the highway.

These figures are 8 mpg better in the city and 2 mpg better on the highway than the Camry Hybrid. We simply could not achieve those figures in real-world driving though

We drove the Fusion Hybrid on the same route around Orange County, California, as we did in a recent comparison of the Camry Hybrid and Prius. This suburban loop is 177.9 miles long and we averaged 31 mph in the Fusion Hybrid. ——SHAME SHAME

Typically, cars we’ve tested on this loop return fuel-economy figures a little better than their EPA city estimates. The Fusion Hybrid did not.In fact, we could manage only 35.7 mpg. SURPRISE SURPRISE

The car’s onboard computer was a little generous, claiming 37 mpg. The Camry Hybrid we tested on the route (on a different day) returned 41.8 mpg ——WOW

The company that is “unsurpassed” is exagerating claims in order to top Toyota? How can this be