so california is doing something to make them seem LESS hippyish? is that what im getting from this?

I’ve never understood why corporations, and the consumer (of which the corporations indoctrinate) think it’s bad thing doing something good for the environment and themselves? There are no reals facts that it will cost an extra $2.1 billion/year…how much has the useless Iraq war cost, and going to cost us waaaaaaaaaaaaay into the future?

A4 is so tiresome

Wow, 90% reduction?

ATTENTION EVERYONE. As of todau 3/26/08 I will no longer be posting comments on here due to the lack of maturity, and problems of whoever is using our LLN handles and trying to impersonate me and anyone else, and therefore causing problems.

If any comments after this post are said by my handle, they will have a hyperlink to a gay porn site (Do not click on it) and are deemed offensive to anyone just know it wasn’t said by the real me. After using LLN over the past 7 months, it’s sad it’s come to this. Good luck everyone.

F451 – I agree, you don’t understand. Maybe you’re a bit too bound up in the panties with the lib agenda and therefore not thinking for yourself. And that’s a valid assumption considering you managed to combine environmentalism with the Iraq War. Your failure in understanding starts with your assumptions that everyone, like yourself, has a political agenda. This of course is not true. Corporations have one objective in mind, to make money. And that is regardless of political leanings. The truth of the matter is, they have done plenty of research to find that battery powered cars are not economically feasible. If they were, and they could actually make a profit with them, rest assured they would build them. Again, as I stated previously, most people do not share your lib agenda and do not buy the global warming scam. Anyone living in northern latitudes will find a battery powered car useless in the cold, frigid snow. So the market for a battery powered car exists for those with a liberal agenda, who believe in global warming, and live in a primarily sunny climate in mid to southern latitudes. All that amounts to MAYBE 2500 vehicles a year.

I guess plummeting house values, companies and people leaving the state, a declining tax base, and rising unemployment and a lot less loose credit are starting to make the utterly stupid californicrats in Scrotumento rethink their anti business, anti social policies a little.

RicardoHead
House values aren’t plummeting here, only in a few areas like Lancaster/Palmdale and San Diego
Companies and people aren’t leaving the state, they are still arriving so the tax base isn’t shrinking.
Unemployment is not rising.
I don’t know where you get your information from.
CAlifornia just rocks, period

Frump Jack, if you had one inkling of how and why they are proposing what they are then you might have had a coherent post, but you don’t so you didn’t. You do not know my political affiliation because you’re an insipid ass. You’re the kind that simply takes all that they can, while smiling, believing you got away with something—we all pay our dues. Hey, why not go to Iraq or Afghanistan? The Armed Forces will gladly take you as they’ve lowered their mental requirements to provide warm bodies; you easily qualify.

Nice response. Now you’ve insulted the Armed Forces. Rich, and compelling.

You did get one thing right, I do take what I want. I’m that kind of guy. I do it because I can. I’m an Alpha male, and it makes Betas like you pissed, angry, and jealous. Man up F451, grow a pair and stop feeling like such a victim. If momma Earth really does need a champion, she’ll need someone with a bit more testicular fortitude.

JennyFromTheBlock – LOL! You mean California is on the rocks? Better check your facts before you head out on limbs… http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/laland/2008/03/california-free.html

Piablo, Alpha male…more like a joke. Hey, but what goes around comes around. Two names now, huh Frump Jack?

Good ol’ GM. Always at the forefront, lobbying against any legislation that would make them more socially responsible.

Bullcrap California!! You bunch off sellouts. CARB has bowed again to the mighty auto industry. Plump Jack- I drive a fully electric vehicle in the most Northern section of Washington state, and in 6 inches of snow and traction tires I drove it all winter…sometimes at -5 degrees F!! So stuff your stupid assumptions about battery powered vehicles, and wake up to 4, 5, and 6 dollar a gallon gas and some kind of solution instead of “head in sand” position you take. Its not a liberal position to believe in alternative drivetrains that don’t involve foreign oil. Its not a liberal position to believe we can live with cleaner air from ZEV’s. The electrification of the automobile is coming, and everyone should get behind it. Electric cars are fast and reliable, quiet and clean. 2500 vehicles don’t even amount to an experimental fleet in a state with 45 million people living there…what a sellout CARB!!

I would imagine that technology in these vehicles has improved in the past few years. However, when I was in the Air Force we were stuck using these garbage vehicles for work around base. We had Ford Rangers modified either for electric or to run on CNG. After a full nights’ charge the Electric would not last after lunch so sometimes you got stranded. There were so many problems with the CNG trucks and pumping station that they were eventually removed from the fleet and returned to gasoline power. After having a few years experience using these type of vehicles i just don’t have faith in the claims or the technology. 2500 is enough vehicles for hardcore greenpeace members who don’t mind hitchhiking when their car cuts out.

you have people that want to move forward, and you have people that want to move backwards. i’m sure there were bunch of people back 100 years ago bitching about how we should keep burning coal so they could keep the coal miners in business.. it’s that same old why fix it if it ain’t broke.

I know it’s illegal and it’s the reason anti-trust law exists, but if I were the major six or seven car manufacturers I would just tell California to “f*ck off” and offer them a resounding “good luck without us on their citizens getting from point A to point B in one of the largest spread out states in the country.” Trust me, they’ll change their tune after just one SoCal summer.

“We need real change we can believe in — like a bicycle in every garage… just like China. YES WE CAN!”

frick california