Just days after some Toronto politicians began calling for a ban on some performance modifications, Canada’s new conservative government is expected to introduce a bill that would make street racing a specific criminal offence. According to CBC News, convictions for street racing would bring driving bans and stiffer sentences than existing crimes involving vehicles. Prime Minister Stephen Harper first announced the proposed changes last month in Vancouver. Meanwhile, Ontario Attorney General Michael Bryant today will watch as police in Markham, Ontario, destroy two street racing cars forfeited under the Civil Remedies Act. The drivers of the modified cars were stopped in 2004 and 2005 for speeding and dangerous driving and their cars were seized.
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06/15, 8:40 AM
posted by:
A3
Stop street racing? Idiots, promote it! Think outside the box!
Instead of wasting money patrolling, allocate resources for regulated speed tracks for a safer environment!!
Isn’t it ironical, collecting the taxes from movie tickets of 2F2F to run after them in real life?
Stupid politicians.
06/15, 8:56 AM
posted by:
Renton
Racing is for the track.
#2 do you realize you are asking for a race track when you say “allocate resources for regulated speed tracks for a safer environment!!”
Street cars and race cars are very different. no matter how prepped the street car is.
Go to a racing school sometime, you will never get the same thrill out of the street car again
06/15, 9:17 AM
posted by:
Person
People should grow up and take it to the track. They should make it so you lose your car and driver licence. And if your caught agian you should go to jail for 5 years. Then will see whos laughing then!
06/15, 11:39 AM
posted by:
A3
Renton, street or race cars are funner? I presume the latter is funner to drive…
The can make razce tracks in closed loop or straight lines. Each has its own fun.
06/15, 12:13 PM
posted by:
Maverick
A3 – “Funner” is not a word. It’s “more fun”.
06/15, 12:16 PM
posted by:
mossy
****.
06/15, 12:37 PM
posted by:
scotty
I just dont want to be caught speeding, then told I was street racing. I can see this getting out of hand. were does the street racing stop and the normal speeding begin? cops will take one look at the driver and say oh, hes young he was street racing.
06/15, 1:03 PM
posted by:
Zan
Racing is for the track. The danger of street racing only seems cool when your a young idiot too stupid to realize the damage you can cause to not only yourself, but innocent people around you.
The track is more fun because you can really push it to the limit and test yourself and your car against others on an even playing field.
06/15, 6:42 PM
posted by:
Carlos
So anyone under 30 in a sporty looking car will not be allowed to leave a red light at the same speed as or faster than the car next to them, or they go to jail and can kiss their futures goodbye.
What’s the big deal with street racing? They’re rarely dangerous unless they involve high speeds, and if they involve high speeds, just bust them for speeding! 20mph over is reckless driving, 100mph is a felony… that should be good enough.
But “get by with fewer laws” is an alien concept to just about anyone anymore.
06/15, 10:57 PM
posted by:
A Canadian
What’s the big deal with street racing? Well, hmm, let’s see now: two weeks ago a Viper and SLK were racing and the Viper driver screws up and wraps himself and his six figure car up around the lamppost nice and tight. Two guys are racing in a Camaro, lose control and hit a lady walking home from the grocery store; she flies over a hundred feet. The two men are ordered deported from Canada back to India but serve NO jail time. A university grad gets a BMW 330CI for his gift, street races a week later on Marine Drive and ends up dead after crashing into a library. I’m sleeping at night and I hear a loud bang. The next morning I find out a 16 year old is dead after racing his M3. I live in Vancouver, the street racing capital of Canada. I don’t want these crazy kids racing outside my house at night, there are innocent people walking around who don’t want to die because someone else is stupid. This is a society where high school kids show up to class in cars that are faster, more expensive and flashier than anything the teachers will ever be able to afford. The government has tried to deter street racing in Vancouver by posting ads in high school planners stating “Car Crashes are the number one killer of youth” beside a picture of a messed up car. They give annual visits and show graphic videos at high schools, they even come with a car and drop it from two stories high to show how even slower speed crashes can mess up a car. The police can’t patrol everywhere and the laws need to be tougher to discourage street racing. I hope you now understand “what the big deal” is with street racing, Carlos.
06/16, 3:59 AM
posted by:
gsh
does anyone street anymore?
06/16, 5:50 AM
posted by:
A3
funner funner funner funner!!!!
06/16, 7:03 AM
posted by:
JohnnyBlazE
full on street races? be strict about them… a quick run off the lights to legal speeds? why not?
speeding isn’t an issue, it’s stupidity when racing that is an issue. sod it i enjoy a spirited drive but i enjoy a safe drive (which is why i don’t push my peugeot cos its balls – if i had a focus i’d be more spirited
)
06/16, 9:52 AM
posted by:
515 RWHP GTO
If this is such a problem, why do we continue to have the new HP race between all the manufacturers, including the Japs? Everyone is racing to hit that 400+ HP mark again in a $40k. Ford with GT500, Pontiac’s GTO, Nissan and the new Skyline. I understand people wreck, but those people are destined to wrap their cars around a tree anyway. People who cannot drive shouldn’t buy fast cars, period. Unfortunately you don’t need to take a test to buy a 300+ HP car to see if you actually know how to drive the thing.
06/16, 10:25 AM
posted by:
montecarlo
Love it! I hope the punk in the M3 that slammed on the brakes after cutting me off just to show how hard he can accelerate…gets life!
06/17, 12:10 AM
posted by:
A Canadian
I agree with Tristan that idiots that kill. However, street racing is street racing no matter who is behind the wheel, the idiot that was driving his viper, he may be an idiot but he’s still street racing. If the SLK didn’t come up, the idiots wouldn’t have raced and no one would have died. The point is that there are always going to be idiots who have nice cars and they will street race. Also, I have to disagree with you that these crashes are occuring because people don’t know how to drive. F1, Kart and NASCAR are all professionals who I’m sure know how to handle a car. As we all know, these people still crash their cars and get into accidents once in a while. The only difference and reason why they don’t have as many fatalities is because they’re in a more controlled environment, they don’t have to worry about intersections, stop signs, stoplights, etc. I’m sure you can drive fine going 130 along Lougheed but driving fast, losing control and being an idiot aren’t the only factors which contribute to a crash, it’s EVERYTHING in the environment that makes it dangerous. Perhaps the government should be using all their fines they collect from their new regulations and build and encourage racing on tracks, where people can race on an even playing field and push their cars to the limit moreso than they can on the streets.
06/17, 12:25 AM
posted by:
Tristan
I would totally be behind that Idea, save for 2 reasons.
1) In our illustrious country, you have to have insurance for everything. If it was done in the nerumbourging style (you pay a fee, sign a waiver, and drive to your hearts content, if you crash, it’s your fault and if you kill someone else, you pay for it) then it would be fine, however the gov wouldn’t do that.
2) At present you need a racing license to race on a track (for insurance reasons) which is why alot of ’street racers’ don’t do it on the track, they can’t. Now, you can go on to say that “well they’ve got money, they can afford to go do that”. Takes money, And time. And as i’m sure everyone is well aware of, people are pretty goddam lazy. Why would you pay (alot) of money for a track you can only goto once in awhile (Mission raceway is only open to public racing and track events evenings and weekends as far as I recall) when you can go out to an abandoned industrial district, where there’s nobody for kilometres, and blast it for free?
You say controlled environments are okay to race in? The Real street races that go on in my city (and most) happen where nobody is around they control the environment themselves. Despite what everyone seems to think, people who drive these modded and expensive ride Don’t want to get caught, just want to have fun. But as i’m forced to reiterate, again; Idiots do it in the city, and kill people, and crash.
And my final point to rest my case upon; Street racing has been around for 50+ years, do Any of you (people for and against this legislation included) think that street racing is Ever going to go away? Well if you said ‘yes because of this or that legislation’ you’re an idiot. It won’t. As long as the cars, parts, and need for speed is there, it’s going to happen. So really, it boils down to 2 choices; You make it worse with this hypocritical legislation, or you embrace it and work with the community. The VPD already has a program in place that tries to do that, and I assure you, people will be more inclined to stop if they know they’re not going to jail for 3yrs, or get a license suspension for life.
-Tristan
06/20, 4:33 PM
posted by:
pammer
i totally agree with tristan. if u dont know how to drive, keep ur car off the frigin road!!
06/21, 12:35 PM
posted by:
Liisa
I think that is completely ridiculous.
They just want to assume that because you know how to modify your car, that it is entirely done for street racing.
I’m modding my car, just for my own personal gain.
Lower the car, make it more aerodynamic, meaning you use LESS GAS!
You do these things so that you are safer.
I’m tired of people thinking that they can put a fart can on their car, and try to race with it. That’s what ruins it for the rest of us tuners out there.
This enrages me.
I agree that racing should be left for the street, but if i have my car modified, so that it’s safer for me, i’m going to be stopped for racing?
That’s just pointless.
I think that these politicians should actually talk to someone who’s a tuner to understand the gains of tuning a car, and modifying it in such ways that it’s lower, and the suspension is stiffer.
I do highway driving all the time, and if i modify my car like that, it will make my trips much safer, as I will be able to maneouver around an animal in the road, etc.
Bah, those fast and the furious movies have ruined tuning for the world.
06/21, 1:08 PM
posted by:
Liisa
What they really need to realize is that there are two types of people here.
You have your ricers, and your tuners.
Most of the time your ricers are those people who drive silly little honda civics (no offence to any civic drivers out there, wonderful cars) and put a muffler on it, rims, lower it, and that’s it. They don’t do anything to make the performance of their car better, they just leave it all stock. Then, they try to race with these cars, get going fast in high traffic areas, and when they try to hit the brakes, the stock rotors and pads fail. Main thing: Stock is not performance.
And you have your tuners. These are the people who drive around a car that looks stock, or even modified, but they’ve actually put a turbo in their car, a full exhaust, better suspension components, as well as performance pads and rotors.
If they do even street race (tuners usually are the people who are putting money into a car, so they know what the hell they are doing behind the wheel of a 2 ton death bullet), they know where to go, and when it comes down to having to avoid an accident, their parts are not going to fail.
Live life by the tuner motto: If it breaks, replace it with something better. Stock parts are not designed for racing, that’s why they’re stock, and they are so cheap. Performance parts are designed for this. Honestly, it’s just a matter of these movies, and all the hype about it. I think that all of that junk that canadian tire sells should be abolished. You walk in, want a part, they tell you it’s legal, you put it on your car, and the cops pull you over, and fine you for it.
Come on now. Geesh.
Most of the people that are being caught for street racing are ricers, they don’t know what they’re doing, and they don’t know where to do it.
That’s why it’s so easy to find ricers, and you have to look harder to find tuners. They know their ****, and they are better at not getting caught.
And by the way, if you really want to street race, and you don’t want to get caught, when you see a cop, just make sure you’ve flashed the ECU, so the governor doesn’t kick in. Cop cars only go 215Km/h, go faster, and they won’t catch ya…
06/26, 2:56 PM
posted by:
BOBO
This new law will change two things, half the people wont do it and the other half wont stop when there caught, and the police after numerous deaths will be forced not to chase.the deaths will be more because you’ve made the environment more uncontrolled.adults dont need parents and if you treat adults like children thats what you get.
07/09, 7:28 PM
posted by:
machiavelli
Good old saying for street racers including the Viper driver.
Kill them all
let god sort them out
07/11, 12:16 AM
posted by:
Liisa
Bah, someone really needs to understand and learn what tuning a car is for.
The idiots who get caught trying to street race are the ones who deserve to have their cars crushed.
whatever to all that.
If the cops want to try and say that i’m street racing, i’ll have a hell of a lot of stuff to say about the fact that they run around town racing eachother! WTF
07/19, 4:37 PM
posted by:
dan
in europe we had the same problem … so we built the Autobahn
08/12, 8:23 PM
posted by:
mojo
Well,i for one am against ppl “racing on public streets”. However i am not opposed to ppl racing ie. areas controlled for the purpose like race tracks.ppl in the Lower Mainland of BC are not trained properly…ie most i have asked can’t give the definition or differences between STOP, YIELD and MERGE.
(yes for you lower IQs merge has right of way). I wish ppl would drive CONSISTENTLY (one speed, not speed up because some one is next to or passing you).either speed and follow all the other rules of the road or do the speed limit and “wing” the rules of the road (which most don’t know anyways)DON’T DO BOTH.After being involved in doing First Aid in so many accidents, trust me if you saw your friend/mother/father etc… smushed about like ground beef you might want to act more responsible too….not to mention most ppl consider the roads for cars when they speak of street racing ..what about the cyclists and the motorcycles who have no protection from you morons? speed is not the actual issue…it is control, and you might think you have it, but your vehicle just might not(or vise versa in most cases).
Remember if your loved one gets run over, dragged under the chassis of a vehicle or wrapped around the pole, your first thought will not be”but they were just racing-no big deal”they must have been in the way and annoyed someone so they deserved it”….and if you do think that way- get proffesional help!*!*!*!
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