06/21/2007, 12:55 PM

Industry/General

Canadian province claims power to seize, destroy modified cars

Police in Canada’s most populous province have the right to seize and destroy any car that has been modified for street racing, Ontario’s top prosecutor claims.

“If we can establish someone has parts and they’re juicing up their car — obviously for the purpose of street racing — then we can seize those vehicles,” Ontario Attorney General Michael Bryant said Wednesday, according to the Canadian Press.

“We will seize it and you will never see it again. We will crush your car, we will crush the parts.”

“We don’t need to wait until that car hits the road fully loaded,” he said, adding that modified cars are as dangerous as explosives, capable of causing catastrophic damage.

Mr. Bryant was also an architect of Ontario’s recent pit bull ban, which was designed to “protected from the menace” of “dangerous dogs,” which he characterized as “nothing but a loaded weapon waiting to go off.”

Bryant’s comments on modified cars seem to suggest Ontario’s liberal government is exempt fromthe Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, which states: “Everyone has the right to be secure against unreasonable search or seizure.”

It’s not known if Bryant’s latest comments are an accurate reflection of Canadian or Ontario law, or if police will use this apparent power, but it’s clear Ontario’s police are getting tired of dangerous driving.

“There is no excuse for street racing and aggressive driving, such as the high speeds and unsafe lane changes we have seen recently,” Ontario Provincial Police Commissioner Julian Fantino said in a recent press release.

The Leftlane Perspective: We can’t help but wonder if Mr. Bryant got his idea from a recent Volkswagen ad campaign.

 
 

06/21, 1:02 PM

posted by:

maximus

Last time I checked, people modify their cars with performance car parts, not explosives.

06/21, 1:07 PM

posted by:

gtv6

Speak for yourself

06/21, 1:11 PM

posted by:

fan

good move. as far as i know the canadians, they will only do these when the owner earned it reasonably… and for all the others… it will be scaring them off of behaving like idiots, putting others in danger by racing on open streets…

06/21, 1:11 PM

posted by:

LP640

Well i guess i better check my friends Mazda RX-8 for any nukes or traces of dynamite and C4 explosive.
Canadians are so stupid “a car is like a bomb, very dangerous” Do cars in Canada have nitroglycerine fuelled rockets instead of normal internal combustion engines????
Michael Bryant you can eat a fat dick. I bet that bastard is probabaly the one who does all the so called “Street Racing” He’s been watching a few too many 2 fast 2 furious DVD’s.

06/21, 1:18 PM

posted by:

jdepould

American officials seem to be about as well-versed as this guy when it comes to cars. The general consensus is that any car that isn’t bone stock MUST be used for racing on public roads, that there is no other reason to modify a car in any way, but this doesn’t count if it’s “classic American muscle.” They’re all working under the “guilty until proven guilty” mantra that seems to be so popular nowadays.

Note: I have nothing against aforementioned “classic American muscle,” it’s just that autorities seem to be playing the stereotypes.

06/21, 1:37 PM

posted by:

Kenny W

I find it amazing that these draconian laws are so easily passed. The idea that all cars are modified for the sole purpose of street racing is so absurd that it’s hard to put into words. The customization of automobiles is, for many, more about personal reflection than it is about racing on the streets and killing someone. It’s even more scary when one thinks that you can buy many stock cars that are faster than these modified Civics and Eclipse’s. A V6 Toyota Camry runs the quarter mile in less than 15 seconds, thats faster than many “performance” cars of the early 90’s. When you can buy a family sedan with 300+ hp stock how do you justify going after only the people with fart cans and supposed CAI’s on 2.0L straight fours pushing at most 200 to the wheels.

The world is becoming such a fear driven place that eventually we’re going to reduce our personal rights to mere shadows of their former selves in a futile attempt to stop crime, get rid of drugs, and prevent deaths from occurring. I’m all for keeping the public at large safe, but at what cost are we going to finally say enough is enough? How long are we going to let a few rotten apples spoil the fun for everyone else? the vast majority of car enthusiast are responsible people that like to have something unique as opposed to your silver Accord or beige Camry like everyone else, we aren’t criminals dammit so stop treating us like we are.

They claim that we should take it to the track, but the closest affordable track to me is almost 2 hours away. The only other one even remotely close is Mid-Ohio and most people probably don’t even know it exists. How are we supposed to take it to the track when we don’t have one close by, can’t afford to, or simply just don’t have the time to drive 2 hours for 12 seconds of track time. Heck, they’ve been trying to shut down Road Atlanta for years, so what are people in Georgia supposed to do if that ever happens? I don’t street race and I don’t condone it, but at least make alternative avenues available to people before crushing their dreams.

Sigh, people that know nothing about the subject they’re dictating shouldn’t be allowed to be put in charge.

06/21, 1:40 PM

posted by:

CTS DRIVER

ok what about a responsible racer with a modified daily driver that only goes fast at the track. what about a car that comes from the factory with 500 to 1000 horsepower, look at streetfire; ferarris, and lamborghinis street race all day long too, will they ban the sale of bugattis and porsches in ontario?
.
with that being said i do understand what they are trying to do….stop young people from killing themselves and others. anybody that dont think streetracing those little fart cars is a problem is crazy. I live in so cal and see exotics and sports cars obeying every road rule out there (sometimes driving 58 in a 65 zone), and see crappy loud ricers (foreign and domestic)weaving through traffic at 100+ mph.

06/21, 1:41 PM

posted by:

Hyperion

Damn… I just KNEW my car’s diminutize little engine would turn into a dangerous explosive device as soon as I changed to a performance muffler! I should have listened before it was too late.

I really really hope this man Bryant loses support as a result of these very extreme measures. Any car I own will be modified within the confines of emissions laws as I see fit and I do not race on the street to get the enjoyment I want from my vehicles.

And I know that pit bulls can be extremely dangerous. Most people shouldn’t have them unless they’re a licensed breeder, but banning them outright?

I agree with LP640. This guy is watching far more Initial D, 2F2F and way too many police chase videos than do most enthusiasts who just want their cars to be interesting.

Oh me oh my…. I wonder if they’ll target people with VW’s and Japanese cars and largely turn a blind eye to all of the Mustangs, Camaros, Corvettes, Buicks, Chryslers and nearly every older muscle car which was *built from the factory* for street and drag racing. I’m sure you’d have to look VERY HARD to find a Mustang or Camaro that’s been modified with speed parts.

06/21, 1:59 PM

posted by:

Aston Martin

It is not the cars that are dangerous, only the racing. The Cnadians will just race stock cars. They should take peoples driving licences, not their cars. What if someone owns a modified car for racing on tracks? IDIOTS.

06/21, 2:20 PM

posted by:

spykotic

So if it comes from the factory all loaded, its okay? (ex: STI), but if its tuned at home, the car is lost? Makes no sense!!!!!

06/21, 2:27 PM

posted by:

2008PowerStrokeF450Lariat

damn, i love america…STUPID ASS CANUCKS!!!

06/21, 2:41 PM

posted by:

rey323

I’m in step with Kenny W. I thought that we lived in a meritocracy based democracy where people are judged for their actions rather than presumption and stereotypes. What this guy is trying to do is establish a form of discrimination. If you have a problem with street racing, go after those individuals that are participating, not someone who happens to have a car that can go fast. Bryant rationalizes his desire in destroying someone’s personal property without just cause. His sensationalist analogy comparing cars to explosives is clearly meant to rouse the ignorant masses rather to appeal to those that think and reason. Explosives are illegal; cars are not.

06/21, 2:41 PM

posted by:

eam3

So by that (dumb ass) rationale, any country that adds one more item to their military should automatically be seen as an enemy since the only purpose of the military is to kill. Yeah, I’m looking at you Canada!

06/21, 3:08 PM

posted by:

Blakkarr

Impound? I can buy for a dollar. Destroy? WTF? I don’t care who you are and how fast you were driving, if it’s my car or truck or motorcycle or anything with wheels, you have NO right to destroy it. But then we have laws in the US that prevent the state from destroying private property that is not actually and legally determinable as illegal.

Deantj,

Your language couldn’t be strong enough for this one. It sounds like the fool is trying to get re-elected… if they elect that particular official in Canada. In the US, he’d be laughed off the stage and the public would run him out of public.

If you want people to stop street racing build some race tracks! God knows America needs more of them.

06/21, 3:55 PM

posted by:

buenos

His statement is in response to the recent deaths of people on Ontario’s highways, that were killed when thier vehicles were slammed into by kids who were street racing. the most recent being a trucker killed when he was hit by two 17 year olds. Unfortunately many modified cars are like Pit Bulls, there is a great attraction to own them by those who are the least capable of handling them. Just my thoughts…

Okay, deantj, let the slamming begin. (just try to be more original this time…)

06/21, 4:49 PM

posted by:

jackjimturkey

pitbulls should be bred out of existence.

This dude is an idiot. They should only take away a guy’s car if the CATCH him racing

deantj: His lilly-white daughter is probably OK with that

06/21, 4:53 PM

posted by:

Wickedated

Who cares?????!!!!! Less rice rockets on the roads. Good move! Next time I see a Honda Civic 2 inches from the ground on 24s with flames on the side and a wing the size of a jumbo jet’s, I’ll be like… The canadian guy makes sense!

As far as explosives, I’m pretty sure he means NOS for those of you that didn’t catch that.

That whole Fast and the Furious culture is teh ghey! Thumbs up.

06/21, 4:58 PM

posted by:

maximus

you are right gtv6, i should only speak for myself. I stand corrected, it won’t happen again.

06/21, 5:01 PM

posted by:

jdepould

@ Blakkarr: Don’t be so sure that he’d be laughed off in the US. I think you underestimate the ignorance and gullibility of the public-at-large. If a politician goes on TV saying something to the effect of “Do you want your 80 year old pensioner father to be killed on the way to the grocery store or church by a wreckless teenager in one of those darn modified honda street racing cars?!?!” then he’ll get the attention of a lot of people. Meanwhile, since he’s stereotyping a non-voting demographic, he hasn’t pissed off anyone that matters.

06/21, 5:02 PM

posted by:

Rompn4x

Your gonna have alot of kids who will run when the red and blue lights come on. Hopefully they wont crash and kill someone in the process. Happened down here in SoCal when the law was passed over power to seize any car street racing. Imagine a kid with a 400hp car and countless thousands invested into his car gets pulled over and knows hes gonna lose it…

06/21, 5:19 PM

posted by:

MY Si

Canada has found weapons of mass destruction!

06/21, 5:26 PM

posted by:

Piablo

So who’s still in favor of social-ism??!?! This is a prime example of why I can’t stand them.

I suppose they’ll have to crush every Corvette, Ferrari, Porsche, etc… that makes it into the Ontario border. Or maybe those cars are safe, it’s the 4-banger Civic with a soup can muffler, mail order spoiler, and a K&N filter that needs to run and hide. This could be the most revolting, asinine, ****-for-brains law I have heard of in a very long time.

If anyone else would like to contact this ass of an attorney general, here’s the web address:

http://www.attorneygeneral.jus.gov.on.ca/english/contactus.asp

06/21, 5:34 PM

posted by:

dmanero

I’m ashamed to be even living in Canada. biggest load of pussies I’ve every met. They all for protection against this and that yet they’re the ones that harbor terrorist but allow just about any body i the country. I worked for the immigration department at one time and the amount of refugee coming in.

I’m going to continue modifying my car, and just let them try and destroy my car. I may not be street racing, but after hearing this I might just burn some rubber in for of city hall.

06/21, 5:40 PM

posted by:

dmanero

oh and I forgot to mention, with all the laws they putting through against smoking yet they want to legalize weed. but of hypocrites. looks to me Canada is the next communist country.

06/21, 5:49 PM

posted by:

dmanero

again I forgot, stupid me.

buenos - The resent death on the highways here in Canada, well the one car was a mustang, the other was a civic that wasn’t even modified. I could go on forever of this point. but I furious as it is.

If there is any terrorist reading this, please come on over and wipe out Canada, Montreal first then Toronto

06/21, 6:34 PM

posted by:

BMan1113VR

Well they have been doing it to crx’s and civics in Los Angeles for a couple of years now. I am waiting for them to crush some rich person’s kid’s BMW and turn it into a Supreme Court case.

06/21, 6:58 PM

posted by:

Htay5500

theyre doing this same thing in CA, there was an article on it but I cant find it anyways. all this reacing should be taken on the tracks, lukily in MD, they have the MIR and summit pt in WV.

06/21, 8:18 PM

posted by:

Ratman

They should only crush the rice rockets! And the homos too.

06/21, 8:39 PM

posted by:

Veda

“damn, i love america…STUPID ASS CANUCKS!!!”

Huh? US is far stricter when it comes to speeding compared to most countries in the world. I take it you’ve never lived in a place with no speed limit both in the freeway and normal streets? Now that’s real heaven…

06/21, 9:07 PM

posted by:

Sharif

Now would be a good time to move out of canada. I hope I am not offending anybody but i think Canada fukin suck. It’s cold, stupid laws, crappy currency, it’s cold, all Canada has is hockey, a waterfall, cold weather, and Toronto which i admit is a nice place but it would have been better had it been in a different country.

06/21, 9:18 PM

posted by:

bun_a_gm

“damn, i love america…STUPID ASS CANUCKS!!!”

Too far. I thank god every day I live in canada. I would not want to live in a country consumed ignorance, and an unnecessary war. Go watch nascar buddy.

The media makes it sound like here in ontario we have street races like something out of the fast and the furious, when its really young drivers who have no idea how a car will handle or react at high speeds. Unfortunately it usually ends in tragedy and brings about stupid law proposals like these.

06/21, 9:56 PM

posted by:

dmanero

bun_a_gm - I would have to agree, not only does a license for a car start at 16, which at that age, they’re still kids and want to show off to some girl and hope they can get in her pants.

Secondly, around where I live (Toronto) majority of the poor excuse of modified cars are chopped springs and oversize exhaust tips. Now they think they’re fast. no real performance upgrades or upgrades that will enhance the handling. and again majority of these cars are owned by 16 - 23 middle eastern immigrates. So now we have kids racing around in unstable cars.

You can never stop street racing, but if you want to slow it down, boost the starting age for a driver to 21. Have the police stop hassling drivers who have custom cars by stopping them every other day. and lastly give us the use of a track closure to our location.

Oh but I forgot CANADA is now RUN by communists, hey Bush do a smart thing and send a nuke towards Canada or better yet make it a 51st State.

06/22, 12:00 AM

posted by:

gtv6

Watch them get crushed, it’s on the front page of yahoo

06/22, 12:49 AM

posted by:

meekin111

noone thinks your funny deantj

06/22, 1:16 AM

posted by:

younggun

21 years old that’s ridiculous!!!! why not rape your economy first. no cars as young ages mean no young drivers. no young drivers means no young people getting jobs. no young people getting jobs means no one serving you your Supersized Double Deep Fried KINg of all the World Cheeseburger. think about the economical effects before going off and making a retarded statement like that.

06/22, 5:39 AM

posted by:

94Mark8

So, a couple of kids that were out street racing got killed, we should care about them because…..? Why again? Personally I think we have way too many laws protecting idiots in the world, these are the people that a hundred years ago would have died by the time they were 10 because they were doing something stupid, now we try and protect them and keep them living longer so they can breed and spread their “stupidity gene” around. Eventually we will be living in a world of rubber rooms and plastic spoons, IT WILL BE GREAT!! HA!

06/22, 10:22 AM

posted by:

jonnycat

Hey Ratman - are you from Aberta? An old buddy of mine was nickenamed Ratman.

06/22, 10:35 AM

posted by:

gbb

Bryant’s rant sounds like some punk kid in a fart can equipped Civic cut his slow ass off in traffic and flipped him the bird while doing it. Chill dude, you’ll live longer.

06/22, 3:27 PM

posted by:

CTS DRIVER

what ever happened to that weapon of ass dedtruction called homeboy234?

06/22, 3:27 PM

posted by:

CTS DRIVER

destruction

06/22, 3:38 PM

posted by:

CTS DRIVER

06/22, 3:41 PM

posted by:

CTS DRIVER

search ricer excuses^^^^or just ricer, the link didnt pull the picture.

06/22, 4:34 PM

posted by:

Masher

There was a court case in the US where a young punk’s rice burner was crushed AFTER he was caught violating the law. I am 100% percent in favor of that. But before the kid has even done anything wrong? The word fascist is overused, but I think it applies here.

I don’t have an opinion on pit bulls.

06/22, 4:59 PM

posted by:

jackjimturkey

Now, nobody’s a bigger civic hater that me (I owned one!)

but I don’t think it OK to crush it without due process. And certainly not crush a REAL car.

Building tracks is hard because nobody wants them in his backyard. It’d be cool if someone could get a permit for a 24-hour drag strip arena.

Ricardohead:
I lived in nebraska for five years. No place better than Cali. We just need to reduce the power of those S.F. democrats

Canada has hockey, Virginia NASCAR
Advantage: Canada

06/22, 5:30 PM

posted by:

CTS DRIVER

you know since we play baseball and hockey together, a couple nascar tracks in canada would be king of cool, as long as they are road courses that is.

06/23, 4:09 PM

posted by:

Need for Speed

Canada is retarded, I saw a thing on A&E or something about a group of idiots in ontario who do street race. Chances are Mike P and Rob something’s cars are already gone.

06/24, 1:04 AM

posted by:

350zfairlady

Canada already sucked but damn it really blows balls now.

06/24, 1:51 AM

posted by:

Ian

holy **** “Canada sucks” Anyone who says that doesn’t really know our country. We’ve been in the top 5 countries to live in for a long time now. You think that happens over night?!?!? NO!!!
Canada is a great country to live in and I wouldn’t want to live anywhere else. I love my free health care, i love my beer, i love my toronto maple leafs!!! there are things that i disagree with that our government does bur hell, find a government that has 100% of it’s people backing them up! anyone remember New York wanting to ban the Spinner Rims? Stupid laws will always come to light and stupid laws will always be voted on.

Instead of bashing Canada, bash the drivers out there that make cars these so-called “bombs.”

06/24, 9:23 AM

posted by:

dre

every country has its own beauty.. america is good for making money and easiest gurls around, yes i love it!!!!

and i’ll never move, but for quality of life, there is no better place than italy or some other european country!!!

take care all u pro racer corn balls! lmfao

06/24, 9:53 AM

posted by:

Fiorano

hahahaha USA! USA! USA! USA! well good thing that i dont live in canada cuz i got my Supra twin turbo that produces 800 hp.

06/24, 11:39 AM

posted by:

Need for Speed

England has the easiest girls. America is known for freedom and justice.

06/24, 1:25 PM

posted by:

Hyperion

America is also well known for our love of overzealous scare-tactic laws and our love to litigate anything that breathes.

06/25, 6:22 AM

posted by:

Matt

why those sad f***ing scrotum suckers!!

06/25, 9:59 AM

posted by:

deantj

Ian,

Canadian health care isn’t free. Recall nearly 50% marginal income tax rates and GST/PST eroding another 15% of your purchasing potential.

60 cents on the tax dollar goes to paying health care. In other words, 25% of your income tax (unless you’re a minimum wager) goes to paying your health care. HArdly free. And what health care it is: 10 hour waits in the ER, dying before getting chemotherapy, and unsupervised medical students running entire hospitals after hours. Health care indeed.

06/25, 10:00 AM

posted by:

deantj

^^ Correction. I meant 25% of your gross INCOME, not income tax.

07/02, 4:50 PM

posted by:

Jaguar Sovereign

As a Canadian citizen (thank god in the sensible political province of alberta) it is absolutely appauling that a politician can step out without justification and make up a policy in which they can seize your property for modifying that property for the purpose of “street Racing” Ontario is the most liberal province in the country and therefore have way too much legislation, however it is against the canadian charter of rights and freedoms to seize property in the manner of which is being discussed, plain and simple. If only people were to wake up and realize that left on the political spectrum just does not work, then our country would be a much better place to live.

 
 
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