12/18/2007, 8:15 AM

Hybrid

Porsche could delay Cayenne Hybrid launch

Porsche recently unveiled its production Cayenne Hybrid at the Los Angeles Auto Show, but the German automaker could be getting cold feet about jumping into the hybrid market. Originally slated to bow in 2009, the Cayenne Hybrid’s launch could be pushed back until 2010.

“The most optimistic forecast still only calls for a market share of 5 percent,” Porsche’s head of distribution said about the hybrid market.

Porsche could now hold off on a hybrid version of the Cayenne until the next-generation bows in 2010.

The Cayenne Hybrid is said to average up to 32 miles per gallon and be capable of traveling up to 75 miles per hour using just its electric motor.

Britain’s Car reports that the Cayenne hybrid’s emissions will also be about 25% lower than the current V6 model, the lowest-polluting model of the Cayenne range. Still, at 210 g/km of carbon dioxide, the Cayenne hybrid won’t be the greenest vehicle on the road by a wide margin.


Porsche says that the vehicle should average near 32 mpg on the highway — an increase over the 22 mpg the current V6 model averages — and will still be able to tow 7,000 lbs. As we have previously reported, Porsche expects 26 mpg in the European combined cycle.


 
 

07/25, 11:05 AM

posted by:

RicardoHead

If this thing is like the Prius that can go a whopping 2 miles on electric then at 75mph you can go electric for 96 whole seconds and therewith enjoy the extra $10k this system will cost. That’s a hair over $100 per second. Such a deal!

07/25, 11:56 AM

posted by:

jJayC08

I am amazed… well, actually not really.

I wonder what would happen if the electric motor assisted the gasoline engine in acceleration, I’ve heard the concept many times before but this would be a good place to try it out…

07/25, 12:40 PM

posted by:

Random Jerk

I can only imagine the crying and moaning once BMW intorduces a hybrid system.

On second thought, I wouldn’t be suprised if the minute BMW announces a hybrid system that many of the current nay-sayers suddenly flip-flop and praise the technology. We shall see…

07/25, 12:44 PM

posted by:

LP640

i still wouldnt buy one of these

07/25, 12:59 PM

posted by:

Piablo

Randow Jerk - Nah. Battery powered hybrids stink no matter what car company uses them. No flippin ‘n’ floppin here.

07/25, 2:05 PM

posted by:

zurus

lp640 u cant even drive so shut up acting like ur old and rich

07/25, 2:30 PM

posted by:

LP640

zurus where in the comment did i say i was a billionaire?? dumbass. what are you some 9 year old kid with ADD??? go elsewhere for attention

07/25, 3:21 PM

posted by:

zurus

1p640=100%DOUCHEBAG dumb Ass what i meant is that u cant even afford so shut the **** up saying you would never buy anything cause u dont have anything!BITCH DO YOU HAVE MYSPACE I WANNA SEE YOU YOU THINK UR SO COOL SAYING BITCH ASS COMMENTS AND ACTING ALL BAD BUT MOTHER****ER UR JUSTA LITTLE KID WANNABE GANGSTER

07/25, 4:24 PM

posted by:

global_lightning

The amount of intelligent discourse on LLN would starve a flea.

07/25, 4:25 PM

posted by:

Aston Martin

The average diesel still does 40 mpg…who are they kidding?

07/25, 8:44 PM

posted by:

Veda

“The average diesel still does 40 mpg…who are they kidding?”

You obviously didn’t the part they mentioned about reducing emissions. That’s not the whole goal now is it?

07/26, 5:42 AM

posted by:

Aston Martin

^^^^^^^^^^^^I “didn’t the part” did I?^^^^^^^^^^^^

07/26, 7:17 AM

posted by:

kool_aje

Yea, after some thoughts, Diesel for Panamera and Cayenne are even better than hybrid.

07/26, 7:28 PM

posted by:

TOZO

I wonder if this will work. Escalade comes to the market first - it will reveal if there is any market in this category. And big diesels from big SUVs? I want to drive a car, not get cancer!

07/26, 10:30 PM

posted by:

A4

garbage
diesel or nothing

07/26, 10:31 PM

posted by:

A4

and not get cancer tozo? are you a ****ing moron?

08/05, 1:25 PM

posted by:

BLISS

GOOD FOR PORSCHE

09/11, 5:08 PM

posted by:

RicardoHead

Do I get to pee in the exhaust pipe when the system needs a recharge?

09/11, 5:18 PM

posted by:

Carguy5

Lets see a sun powered car

09/11, 5:18 PM

posted by:

Tosta Mista

If the first photo was high resolution, you could probably read ” Volkswagen AG ” or ” VW/AUDI ” on all those electronic components. Funny how they stripped out the interior yet kept the fundamental cigarette lighter…

09/11, 6:47 PM

posted by:

TOZO

The 911 could use a hybrid.

09/11, 7:08 PM

posted by:

Scott Kempton

32MPG out of an SUV seems pretty optimistic, so I’ll believe it when I see it. But if Porsche can do it, as the Aussies say—”good on ‘em!”.

To me, the idea of a hybrid sounds elegant, but I have no personal experience with them. I suspect though that what we’re going to learn is hybrids are more trouble, and expense, than they’re worth.

09/12, 2:01 AM

posted by:

buytheredcar

f-ugly

09/12, 8:11 AM

posted by:

Wickedated

Nice effort by Porsche. Tthis is the first step into Porsche hybrid engines that will surely make their way into the Panamera.

09/12, 8:22 AM

posted by:

Z06ified

This is one of the dumbest vehicles I’ve seen since the Lexus LS600h. Someone who can afford a $70k+ SUV really doesn’t give a damn about fuel economy or fuel cost. And if the buyer is a true environmentalist, he/she can’t claim a 6,000 lb. SUV is environmentally friendly, even if it is a hybrid. This is the perfect vehicle for Britney Spears, Paris Hilton, Hillary Clinton and Al Gore. It should say “Cayenne Hypocrit” on the back.

09/13, 10:09 PM

posted by:

kool_aje

Hybrid, Diesel. Still ain’t a good cure… how about trying MerC’s Diesotto!?

09/14, 9:53 AM

posted by:

lamboz get a life

even more stupid use of a Porshe.

09/15, 4:25 PM

posted by:

BLISS

GOOD MOVE

11/12, 9:41 AM

posted by:

Veda

Z06ified: most Ferrari owners never took theirs anywhere near the limits. It’s all about image. Same thing with the Cayenne, they can certainly afford any car they want regardless of gas prices but they don’t want to be seen as the bling bling excess Escalade owners.

11/12, 9:54 AM

posted by:

cardesigner5

the only problem with this car is the looks. besides that it’s rather good, much better than half-hearted attempt by Cadillac with the hybrid Escalade,load of horse ****.

11/12, 10:30 AM

posted by:

CA36GTP

Porsche is going downhill. This ****UV looks like junk and the hybrid drivetrain is as pointless as the Escalade’s.

11/12, 10:42 AM

posted by:

autonut

Environmentally conscious panzer. It’s not a car and certainly not what one expects from Porsche.

11/12, 10:58 AM

posted by:

LP640

HA HA You’d have to be suffering from severe Glaucoma and Schizophrenia to even consider this VULGAR CRAP !

11/12, 11:05 AM

posted by:

jayjc08

cardesigner5, ca36gtp; I think they did a good job with the Cadillac hybrid. An increase in 50% fuel economy is welcome with me, especially when the cost doesn’t skyrocket like this thing most likely will. That’s pretty good for a hybrid SUV.

Am I the only one who thinks it looks outdated and ugly? The rear’s Edge-esque, with the tail light a little lower (yes, obviously the Edge was first, just pointing it out)…

11/12, 11:09 AM

posted by:

LamborghiniZ

Everyone can be a damn critic, but this thing is cool regardless. Most of you are a bit too close minded, no wait scratch that, most of you are so insanely close minded to even consider something outside of what you consider to be “acceptable”, which isn’t much. Pretty pathetic, but then again, so are all of you critics over something like this. It’s about time a German automaker made a hybrid, and this look to be a good one.

11/12, 11:10 AM

posted by:

LamborghiniZ

And to those of you citing how much time it’ll take to make your money back over the hybrid premium (the head giver), you can save your pathetic breath. It’s about reducing emissions more than anything, noone thinks they’re going to make their money back over a hybrid, much less a Porsche hybrid. ****in obvious

11/12, 12:35 PM

posted by:

jayjc08

LamborghiniZ, if you were to ask most people why they had bought a hybrid in the United States, and why most automanufacturers build them, what answer do you believe you’d recieve?

Hint: Gas has reached an alltime high (in prices, that is)

11/12, 12:58 PM

posted by:

Syrax

and it has that tacky giant sticker, to remind everyone that you’re driving a hybrid.

11/12, 1:03 PM

posted by:

SwerveEarly

Almost as cool as an Escalade Hybrid

11/12, 1:46 PM

posted by:

autonut

jayjc08, the only hybrid that sells well is Prius. And not because it is a better or more economical then others, but because it is a status symbol for environmentally driven commies in Hollyweird. You see, Civic Hybrid has better handling and equally thrifty, but they don’t sell because people who buy hybrids want others to know that it is hybrid. Not everyone can read “hybrid” on the butt of the CIvic (I guess). You actually can achieve pretty decent mileage with small car and smaller engine without dragging 600-800 lbs of batteries around, but that is not the point for this crowd.
In Europe the same goal is more then achieved with diesel engine, which also holds its price better compare to the gasoline. With any hybrid there is a day when you’ll need to replace that battery pack at unknown price today (or not released by Toyota and Honda). Lucky for Porsche their owners don’t ask the price.

11/12, 2:08 PM

posted by:

jayjc08

I don’t care autonut, that wasn’t the point of my statement. I simply pointed out that people don’t buy hybrids only to reduce emissions; yes, the eco-friendly image is a builder, but Ford Escape Hybrid is/has been doing good. No, not as great as the Prius, but better than Civic, Camry or Accord.

Part of the reason is the Ford Escape and Prius are viewed as somewhat utilitarian vehicles (bad description, but best way I can put it), not small vehicles, with few amenities (like the Insight) and not as sedans that are viewed as a minor part of the problem (Accord, Camry), or traditional vehicles (Tahoe, Suburban).

And the biggest reason is fuel economy. Ask any Prius owner, and up front they’ll tell you they bought it for fuel economy (although viewed by others, it’s a statement).

I’ve had that curiousity too, how much it’ll cost to replace those batteries. I’ve heard around 5k for Lexus and Toyota battery replacements, and up to 7k with the Ford Escape. Pretty expensive, but also from what I understand, they last for a long time (300,000 miles plus, without any major difference in charge).

11/12, 4:24 PM

posted by:

CTS DRIVER

“Still, at 210 g/km of carbon dioxide, the Cayenne hybrid won’t be the greenest vehicle on the road by a wide margin.”
.
so its not green but gets better mileage, what wrong with better mileage? i`d drive it.

11/12, 6:22 PM

posted by:

jackjimturkey

I’d rather see a third row.
global. You cant eat intelligent discourse.
autonut: someone on LLN described the Prius ugliness as “a sacrifice for the cause.”

11/13, 8:56 AM

posted by:

DeansterTJ

I’m diggin the clear hood - I think they should have that as an option on the Yaris, so everyone can see the glory of the 3 cylinder 1.1, or whatever that lawnmower engine is…

11/13, 10:44 AM

posted by:

Z06ified

Impressive stats for the towing an electric-only speed capacity up to 75 MPH.

However, I still question the need, and even want, for such a vehicle. I’ve never seen any Cayenne towing anything - do its buyers really care that it can tow 7,000 lbs.?? Can you picture a Cayenne towing a 7,000 lb. travel all camper? Those two images just don’t go together. Towing a boat, maybe, but most people who could afford a Cayenne can also afford to live on the waterfront.

Same with the fuel economy. Do buyers of the Cayenne who make well into the six figures on average really care if their vehicle gets 22 or 32 MPG? I highly doubt it.

11/13, 12:06 PM

posted by:

jackjimturkey

Z06ified: I once saw a hummer towing, and I saw another with DIRT on it!

11/13, 12:51 PM

posted by:

CTS DRIVER

jack i saw an h2 coming down miller canyos sunday while dirtbiking, we stopped and took pictures to prove it to the rest of our friends.

11/13, 4:52 PM

posted by:

Piablo

HAHAHAH!!! I would pay money to see that. A hybrid SUV towing a boat. If there was ever a greater display of asinine hypocrisy…

Lamboweenie - clean your face off, you’re spitting everywhere again.

12/18, 9:09 AM

posted by:

WOOKIE62

Wait till 2050 I will be dead by then.

12/18, 9:57 AM

posted by:

Rotman

‘Effiency’ and ‘Environment’ would really be the key words when I would be shopping for a Porsche.

12/18, 10:36 AM

posted by:

Impulsive

In all honesty … this thing is frighteningly UGLY, besides looking like it was designed in the 70s or 80s.

12/18, 10:39 AM

posted by:

SwerveEarly

Sense less complication to get worse gas mileage then a diesel. Not to mention diesels tow great and European sales would flourish.
The obvious motor would be the diesel already running in the VW and Audi versions of this rebadged overpriced cross dresser.
Hell outscource it to someone else or find away to get the M-B blu-tec or a duramax in there(while I doubt it would fit perf. would be insane). The obvious motor would be the diesel already running in the VW and Audi.

12/18, 11:21 AM

posted by:

autonut

I cant imagine anyone towing or taking this rig off the road. The only use AWD gets during ****ty weather.
I know German billionaire who drives Prius in Germany and he has huge hard-on for Porsche hybrid. He stated that he has a lot of friends who are concerned about environment. His wife drives S-class Benz with manual and I think has bigger schlong then he does, but he is a proof of a market.

12/18, 3:41 PM

posted by:

LP640

it looks even worse as a hybrid

12/19, 12:40 AM

posted by:

Andre Neves

^ LP640. Your such an idiot, it almost hurts to read your comments.

 
 
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