Comments on: Review: 2010 Chevrolet Camaro SS http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-camaro-ss-review.html Car news, reviews, and specs for the auto-industry Fri, 10 Feb 2012 19:57:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: RaineMan http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-camaro-ss-review.html#comment-483940 RaineMan Tue, 08 Sep 2009 16:52:21 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20919#comment-483940 This "pony" car is a Clydesdale. Shorten it by about 3 feet and drop 1000lbs off of it... I might be interested. The Camaro has historically been a fun, sporty, SMALL coupe. There's nothing small about the new one. Mustang is the only "pony" car I am even remotely interested in... Camaro and Challenger are whales. This “pony” car is a Clydesdale.

Shorten it by about 3 feet and drop 1000lbs off of it… I might be interested.

The Camaro has historically been a fun, sporty, SMALL coupe. There’s nothing small about the new one. Mustang is the only “pony” car I am even remotely interested in… Camaro and Challenger are whales.

]]> By: Cardemon04 http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-camaro-ss-review.html#comment-483881 Cardemon04 Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:18:46 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20919#comment-483881 Bosley: The camaro is only 35 lbs heavier than the GTR... and that laps the ring pretty quick. weight isn't everything. Bosley: The camaro is only 35 lbs heavier than the GTR… and that laps the ring pretty quick. weight isn’t everything.

]]> By: 2XFusion http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-camaro-ss-review.html#comment-483848 2XFusion Tue, 08 Sep 2009 07:11:24 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20919#comment-483848 this car is striking to say the least, tbh, it is a beautiful car. I saw one in a parking lot and actually stopped and took some pictures as it was the first one I've seen- it was yellow. but if you haven't seen the new '10 Mustangs, go take a look. for some reason, they just look a smidge exotic with the right packages. a few I saw had track packs on and some mean looking wheels. the rounded off rear end corners and fender changes really make this car stand out. I'd personally take the Mustang myself. less power and in some tests, it actually beats the SS Camaro- that says something about the whole car. the Challenger to me is just a small Charger- nothing special and already dated. this car is striking to say the least, tbh, it is a beautiful car. I saw one in a parking lot and actually stopped and took some pictures as it was the first one I’ve seen- it was yellow.
but if you haven’t seen the new ’10 Mustangs, go take a look. for some reason, they just look a smidge exotic with the right packages. a few I saw had track packs on and some mean looking wheels. the rounded off rear end corners and fender changes really make this car stand out. I’d personally take the Mustang myself. less power and in some tests, it actually beats the SS Camaro- that says something about the whole car. the Challenger to me is just a small Charger- nothing special and already dated.

]]> By: Bosley http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-camaro-ss-review.html#comment-483754 Bosley Mon, 07 Sep 2009 16:10:45 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20919#comment-483754 You'd think that if this is going to be seen as a 'muscle car' it would be good at 0 to 60 on a strip. Seems to me that power-to-weight ratio and stopping ability are fairly important to that style of racing (and really racing in general). Not too mention the 200+ pound 'old guys' who bought it 'cause it reminds them of something they drove, carrying all that extra weight in the car! :) You’d think that if this is going to be seen as a ‘muscle car’ it would be good at 0 to 60 on a strip. Seems to me that power-to-weight ratio and stopping ability are fairly important to that style of racing (and really racing in general). Not too mention the 200+ pound ‘old guys’ who bought it ’cause it reminds them of something they drove, carrying all that extra weight in the car! :)

]]> By: A4 http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-camaro-ss-review.html#comment-483741 A4 Mon, 07 Sep 2009 15:23:37 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20919#comment-483741 Well its around 800 lbs heavier than a Corvette Z06, which has more power and costs less than a Viper, so you think GM would have taken a lesson or two from the C6 team when they built the Camaro. Although the Camaro V6 does get impressive fuel "economy" for all the numbers at play here. Well its around 800 lbs heavier than a Corvette Z06, which has more power and costs less than a Viper, so you think GM would have taken a lesson or two from the C6 team when they built the Camaro. Although the Camaro V6 does get impressive fuel “economy” for all the numbers at play here.

]]> By: Bosley http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-camaro-ss-review.html#comment-483727 Bosley Mon, 07 Sep 2009 14:06:53 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20919#comment-483727 Yeah, a car that's also 400 lbs heavier than the Viper with less power. Not the way that relationship should be going in my opinion. Fuel economy in this car, nah just fuel consumption.... Yeah, a car that’s also 400 lbs heavier than the Viper with less power. Not the way that relationship should be going in my opinion. Fuel economy in this car, nah just fuel consumption….

]]> By: A4 http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-camaro-ss-review.html#comment-483721 A4 Mon, 07 Sep 2009 09:15:18 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20919#comment-483721 Damn Bosley, this car is 200 pounds heavier than an Escape Hybrid? Maybe someone should drop a big V8 in one of those instead. Damn Bosley, this car is 200 pounds heavier than an Escape Hybrid? Maybe someone should drop a big V8 in one of those instead.

]]> By: carstuff http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-camaro-ss-review.html#comment-483698 carstuff Mon, 07 Sep 2009 01:50:02 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20919#comment-483698 Not sure what you mean by "not to comforting" but I had a V8 Camaro for the weekend and it had a great ride for the power and suspension setup. This vehicle is a wonderful example of what an American "muscle" car should be. I do agree the interior could use some improvement though. However the price on a base camaro at $22k with 304 hp and almost 30 mpg highway is amazing with a car that looks wonderful. Not sure what you mean by “not to comforting” but I had a V8 Camaro for the weekend and it had a great ride for the power and suspension setup.

This vehicle is a wonderful example of what an American “muscle” car should be. I do agree the interior could use some improvement though. However the price on a base camaro at $22k with 304 hp and almost 30 mpg highway is amazing with a car that looks wonderful.

]]> By: everything http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-camaro-ss-review.html#comment-483695 everything Mon, 07 Sep 2009 01:20:42 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20919#comment-483695 A nice upgrade on the Camaro, I sin't think I would buy it the interior is crappy,sure it is stunning but driving it was not to comforting. A nice upgrade on the Camaro, I sin’t think I would buy it the interior is crappy,sure it is stunning but driving it was not to comforting.

]]> By: Mark Elias http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-camaro-ss-review.html#comment-483658 Mark Elias Sun, 06 Sep 2009 17:06:31 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20919#comment-483658 Mr Trieze, All-American could be twisted to include North American, which the Camaro would technically qualify as. As for muscle cars and affordability, I guess it's safe to say "that ship has sailed." You are right in your statement about muscle cars basically being stripped production cars with big engines. But that was back in the beginning days of the genre. Now we are offered automatic climate control, electric windows and door locks, satellite radio, navigation and so on, that a muscle car fanatic who is now into middle age would not think about buying a car that wasn't so equipped. And this technology, which is very common place today, still costs the companies money, so guess who ends up paying for that? In the grand scheme of things, the Camaro is an affordable muscle car, especially when you think about the V6, 304 horsepower Camaro base model, But, as we know from marketing class, any time you have a product that the public wants and wants right now, the dealers are going to be more than happy to separate the conspicuous consumers who want to be seen in the latest and greatest, from their hard earned dough by charging what they can. And then laugh all the way to the bank. So wait a year until the pipeline is filled, and you will be able to find a Camaro/Mustang, or whatever at list price or below. Thanks for reading. Mr Trieze,

All-American could be twisted to include North American, which the Camaro would technically qualify as.

As for muscle cars and affordability, I guess it’s safe to say “that ship has sailed.” You are right in your statement about muscle cars basically being stripped production cars with big engines. But that was back in the beginning days of the genre. Now we are offered automatic climate control, electric windows and door locks, satellite radio, navigation and so on, that a muscle car fanatic who is now into middle age would not think about buying a car that wasn’t so equipped. And this technology, which is very common place today, still costs the companies money, so guess who ends up paying for that? In the grand scheme of things, the Camaro is an affordable muscle car, especially when you think about the V6, 304 horsepower Camaro base model,

But, as we know from marketing class, any time you have a product that the public wants and wants right now, the dealers are going to be more than happy to separate the conspicuous consumers who want to be seen in the latest and greatest, from their hard earned dough by charging what they can. And then laugh all the way to the bank.

So wait a year until the pipeline is filled, and you will be able to find a Camaro/Mustang, or whatever at list price or below.

Thanks for reading.

]]> By: MrTreize http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-camaro-ss-review.html#comment-483637 MrTreize Sun, 06 Sep 2009 11:22:08 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20919#comment-483637 First let me say great review mr Elias. That car is indeed beautiful but I have issues with how it is described as a Holden derived, Canadian built All American car. It most definitely is not an all american car if it is not built in America. The Camry is more All American since it really is built here, and before the emails and comments begin, I do not own, have never owned and never plan on owning a Toyota, but I am an American. And another thing, far be it for me to complain but aren't muscle cars supposed to be you know, affordable? In their heyday from their beginnings in the early automotive history, typically a RWD high performance vehicle would be the least expensive vehicle in a company's lineup. I guess this type of car is typically for people older than me with nostalgia on their minds. Still it is a pretty car. First let me say great review mr Elias. That car is indeed beautiful but I have issues with how it is described as a Holden derived, Canadian built All American car. It most definitely is not an all american car if it is not built in America. The Camry is more All American since it really is built here, and before the emails and comments begin, I do not own, have never owned and never plan on owning a Toyota, but I am an American. And another thing, far be it for me to complain but aren’t muscle cars supposed to be you know, affordable? In their heyday from their beginnings in the early automotive history, typically a RWD high performance vehicle would be the least expensive vehicle in a company’s lineup. I guess this type of car is typically for people older than me with nostalgia on their minds. Still it is a pretty car.

]]> By: buytheredcar http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-camaro-ss-review.html#comment-483630 buytheredcar Sun, 06 Sep 2009 08:14:59 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20919#comment-483630 the cheesy jukebox interior is the deal killer as well as some of the cheapo exterior bits.. the cheesy jukebox interior is the deal killer as well as some of the cheapo exterior bits..

]]> By: ltlPony http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-camaro-ss-review.html#comment-483607 ltlPony Sun, 06 Sep 2009 00:44:15 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20919#comment-483607 "iluvamcars" About the Interior The fact that the interior flows with the exterior does not make it attractive. I really like that car they way it looks and the way it moves, but I ll spent as a driver more time looking that, I won't say ugly but (not attractive) dashboard. The more I try to find how the dashboard flows with the exterior the more it reminds me the face of WALL-E. “iluvamcars”

About the Interior

The fact that the interior flows with the exterior does not make it attractive.
I really like that car they way it looks and the way it moves, but I ll spent as a driver more time looking that, I won’t say ugly but (not attractive) dashboard.
The more I try to find how the dashboard flows with the exterior the more it reminds me the face
of WALL-E.

]]> By: larsim http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-camaro-ss-review.html#comment-483580 larsim Sat, 05 Sep 2009 17:59:18 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20919#comment-483580 No Navigation System ! (?). No Navigation System ! (?).

]]> By: Bosley http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-camaro-ss-review.html#comment-483568 Bosley Sat, 05 Sep 2009 16:16:24 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20919#comment-483568 So if the Palm Beach Raceway gave the brakes so much trouble, what do you think the times would be if it ran the Nurburgring? Not great, in my opinion, because of the 2-ton weight (when you include a 150lb driver) it sounds like the brakes would melt or ignite trying to slow all that mass down. Inertia can be a b!tch sometimes. Here's a short list of vehicles with curb weights close to the 3849 lb Camaro: 2009 Cadillac SRX - 3973 lbs 2009 Chevy Equinox - 3602 lbs 2009 BMW M5 - 4012 lbs 2009 Dodge Charger - 3727 lbs 2009 Dodge Viper - 3440 lbs 2009 Ford Escape Hybrid - 3638 lbs 2009 Ford Mustang - 3461 lbs 2009 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited - 3889 lbs 2009 Lexus RX 350 - 3870 lbs 2009 Toyota Tacoma - 3810 lbs 2009 Toyota Highlander - 3979 lbs 2009 911 Carrera - 3075 lbs ( Stats taken from here: http://auto.howstuffworks.com/auto-parts/towing/towing-capacity/vehicle/curb-weight1.htm ) So if the Palm Beach Raceway gave the brakes so much trouble, what do you think the times would be if it ran the Nurburgring? Not great, in my opinion, because of the 2-ton weight (when you include a 150lb driver) it sounds like the brakes would melt or ignite trying to slow all that mass down. Inertia can be a b!tch sometimes. Here’s a short list of vehicles with curb weights close to the 3849 lb Camaro:

2009 Cadillac SRX – 3973 lbs

2009 Chevy Equinox – 3602 lbs

2009 BMW M5 – 4012 lbs

2009 Dodge Charger – 3727 lbs

2009 Dodge Viper – 3440 lbs

2009 Ford Escape Hybrid – 3638 lbs

2009 Ford Mustang – 3461 lbs

2009 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited – 3889 lbs

2009 Lexus RX 350 – 3870 lbs

2009 Toyota Tacoma – 3810 lbs

2009 Toyota Highlander – 3979 lbs

2009 911 Carrera – 3075 lbs

( Stats taken from here:
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/auto-parts/towing/towing-capacity/vehicle/curb-weight1.htm )

]]> By: iamzombie http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-camaro-ss-review.html#comment-483561 iamzombie Sat, 05 Sep 2009 14:33:18 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20919#comment-483561 Thanks for replying Mark, some friends had suggested it was a problem with high ISO. Really I just find the paintwork appears dithered, which is a shame, the pics are really nicely done. Thanks for replying Mark, some friends had suggested it was a problem with high ISO. Really I just find the paintwork appears dithered, which is a shame, the pics are really nicely done.

]]> By: Mark Elias http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-camaro-ss-review.html#comment-483543 Mark Elias Sat, 05 Sep 2009 06:24:22 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20919#comment-483543 ^^Iamzombie, I shot the pics and the lead image was using some HDR techniques which did compress it a bit. As for the others shot in daylight, they appear fine on my screen. Some get a buildup of noise depending on whether I used the High Dynamic Range process, but the one of the kids around the car is more a problem with higher ISO. ^^Johnnycanuck, Thanks! Mark ^^Iamzombie,

I shot the pics and the lead image was using some HDR techniques which did compress it a bit. As for the others shot in daylight, they appear fine on my screen. Some get a buildup of noise depending on whether I used the High Dynamic Range process, but the one of the kids around the car is more a problem with higher ISO.

^^Johnnycanuck, Thanks!

Mark

]]> By: iluvamcars http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-camaro-ss-review.html#comment-483530 iluvamcars Sat, 05 Sep 2009 04:01:43 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20919#comment-483530 The interior is supposed to look retro just like the outside pony! I geuss you do not want a car where the inerior flows with the exterior. -iluvamcars The interior is supposed to look retro just like the outside pony! I geuss you do not want a car where the inerior flows with the exterior.

-iluvamcars

]]> By: larsim http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-camaro-ss-review.html#comment-483527 larsim Sat, 05 Sep 2009 03:28:05 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20919#comment-483527 NEVER thought I would say this about a GM car - but here it goes: HOT! NEVER thought I would say this about a GM car – but here it goes:
HOT!

]]> By: ltlPony http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-camaro-ss-review.html#comment-483523 ltlPony Sat, 05 Sep 2009 03:14:44 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20919#comment-483523 How many hours spend to design the interior? I think it is 2009 and things look little bit more futuristic. They got inspired by a pair of binoculars, Left eye speedometer Right eye RPMs and in the middle a nice ergonomic colon for your nose. How many hours spend to design the interior? I think it is 2009 and things look little bit more futuristic.
They got inspired by a pair of binoculars, Left eye speedometer Right eye RPMs and in the middle a nice ergonomic colon for your nose.

]]> By: johnnycanuck http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-camaro-ss-review.html#comment-483519 johnnycanuck Sat, 05 Sep 2009 02:57:18 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20919#comment-483519 Great review Mark. I don't know what some people are bitching about, I'd rather read 10 reviews on a car like this than one on the latest appliance de jour. And about your 4 buddies there, do you think between them they could afford the gas never mind the car? I only have one concern with the Camaro and that is did they go too far in the name of style vs. practicality. I have fond memories of riding around in my buddy's '67 and no matter how impaired our vision might have been it was never the fault of the car itself. Could they not have lowered those door sills just a little? Great review Mark. I don’t know what some people are bitching about, I’d rather read 10 reviews on a car like this than one on the latest appliance de jour. And about your 4 buddies there, do you think between them they could afford the gas never mind the car?

I only have one concern with the Camaro and that is did they go too far in the name of style vs. practicality. I have fond memories of riding around in my buddy’s ’67 and no matter how impaired our vision might have been it was never the fault of the car itself. Could they not have lowered those door sills just a little?

]]> By: Bosley http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-camaro-ss-review.html#comment-483501 Bosley Sat, 05 Sep 2009 00:36:18 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20919#comment-483501 @Mark, ....... Mmmmm, suckers,...... ;) @Mark, ……. Mmmmm, suckers,…… ;)

]]> By: Need4SSpeed http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-camaro-ss-review.html#comment-483496 Need4SSpeed Sat, 05 Sep 2009 00:02:47 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20919#comment-483496 JakeK66, don't be jealous because you don't have friends and family that work at GM's headquarters, proving grounds, and tech center.... That info I just said isn't on any website. Except maybe camaro5.com And if you go back and look at any ZR1 or CTS-V LLN topics, you'll see that I was avidly reporting information that was very accurate. Believe me or don't but when the Z28 debuts you'll remember some commenter on LLN was right... JakeK66, don’t be jealous because you don’t have friends and family that work at GM’s headquarters, proving grounds, and tech center….

That info I just said isn’t on any website. Except maybe camaro5.com And if you go back and look at any ZR1 or CTS-V LLN topics, you’ll see that I was avidly reporting information that was very accurate. Believe me or don’t but when the Z28 debuts you’ll remember some commenter on LLN was right…

]]> By: beatusmongous http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-camaro-ss-review.html#comment-483480 beatusmongous Fri, 04 Sep 2009 23:19:46 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20919#comment-483480 iamzombie, it looks like high ISO to me. iamzombie, it looks like high ISO to me.

]]> By: SomeGreek http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-camaro-ss-review.html#comment-483479 SomeGreek Fri, 04 Sep 2009 23:15:06 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20919#comment-483479 Good looking car, unacceptable interior. Such a dissapointment compared to the exterior. Good looking car, unacceptable interior. Such a dissapointment compared to the exterior.

]]> By: iamzombie http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-camaro-ss-review.html#comment-483474 iamzombie Fri, 04 Sep 2009 22:46:35 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20919#comment-483474 What the heck do you guys do with your images when you publish them? Whoever your photographer is laid out some beautiful shots, and they look like crap when you view them at their native res (by hijacking your gallery software, which is terrible, btw... who the heck does dynamic resizing?) Either he took those pics with his cellphone, or you guys compressed the hell out of them, I can't decide which it is. On the plus side, nice review, thanks for it. What the heck do you guys do with your images when you publish them? Whoever your photographer is laid out some beautiful shots, and they look like crap when you view them at their native res (by hijacking your gallery software, which is terrible, btw… who the heck does dynamic resizing?)

Either he took those pics with his cellphone, or you guys compressed the hell out of them, I can’t decide which it is.

On the plus side, nice review, thanks for it.

]]> By: tyler_is_aero_tt http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-camaro-ss-review.html#comment-483469 tyler_is_aero_tt Fri, 04 Sep 2009 22:38:22 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20919#comment-483469 Can't wait for the 2011 Stang. Has anybody seen a 2010 Mustang GT yet? I've seen lots of Camaro SS's and the V8 Challengers but all I see for the new Mustang are V6's. Can’t wait for the 2011 Stang. Has anybody seen a 2010 Mustang GT yet? I’ve seen lots of Camaro SS’s and the V8 Challengers but all I see for the new Mustang are V6′s.

]]> By: leftwingagenda http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-camaro-ss-review.html#comment-483461 leftwingagenda Fri, 04 Sep 2009 22:19:11 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20919#comment-483461 stix, leave less cryptic comments and you may find that people actually understand what you write...ok, so you were "NOT SURPRISED" that the new camaro got a good review, so what? what does that mean? you're not surprised because the car is good? you're not surprised because you think LLN is biased with respect to the camaro or GM in general? you're not surprised because you were dropped as a child and lost the ability to be surprised by things? stix, leave less cryptic comments and you may find that people actually understand what you write…ok, so you were “NOT SURPRISED” that the new camaro got a good review, so what? what does that mean? you’re not surprised because the car is good? you’re not surprised because you think LLN is biased with respect to the camaro or GM in general? you’re not surprised because you were dropped as a child and lost the ability to be surprised by things?

]]> By: Stix http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-camaro-ss-review.html#comment-483434 Stix Fri, 04 Sep 2009 20:51:56 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20919#comment-483434 @iluvamcars It's just too bad I never said anything about wanting GM to fail. Read more next time. @iluvamcars

It’s just too bad I never said anything about wanting GM to fail. Read more next time.

]]> By: beatusmongous http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-camaro-ss-review.html#comment-483432 beatusmongous Fri, 04 Sep 2009 20:48:23 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20919#comment-483432 ^ But what does rolling in Jell-O while yodeling have to do with... ...sorry, wrong quote. ^ But what does rolling in Jell-O while yodeling have to do with…

…sorry, wrong quote.

]]> By: Mark Elias http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-camaro-ss-review.html#comment-483426 Mark Elias Fri, 04 Sep 2009 20:39:17 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20919#comment-483426 We do first drives when the manufacturers launch the vehicle, and generally are paired up with another driver so in reality we might get two or three hours behind the wheel, which hardly exposes us to the warts if there are any. These week long reviews allow us to use the cars in daily situations much as you would, and occasionally on the track as well, where we may discover smoking brakes, not so stiff suspension and the like. Not every car gets a day at the track, but when a manufacturer says they have a track-tuned suspension, we like to try it out. ^Noah, car manufacturers charge a dealer XX,XXX for a car. The dealer in turn charges XX,XXX+YYYYY. But you don't have to buy it. You have the right to walk away from that selling price and find a dealer who will sell you what you want, closer to the price you want. Or, if you must be on the cutting edge of conspicuous consumption, then step right up. As P.T. Barnum once said....... We do first drives when the manufacturers launch the vehicle, and generally are paired up with another driver so in reality we might get two or three hours behind the wheel, which hardly exposes us to the warts if there are any.

These week long reviews allow us to use the cars in daily situations much as you would, and occasionally on the track as well, where we may discover smoking brakes, not so stiff suspension and the like. Not every car gets a day at the track, but when a manufacturer says they have a track-tuned suspension, we like to try it out.

^Noah, car manufacturers charge a dealer XX,XXX for a car. The dealer in turn charges XX,XXX+YYYYY. But you don’t have to buy it. You have the right to walk away from that selling price and find a dealer who will sell you what you want, closer to the price you want. Or, if you must be on the cutting edge of conspicuous consumption, then step right up.

As P.T. Barnum once said…….

]]> By: zfenderguy http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-camaro-ss-review.html#comment-483423 zfenderguy Fri, 04 Sep 2009 20:35:25 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20919#comment-483423 iluvamcars - I was responding to the post from wideopenthrottle, directly above mine. I didn't call his name out as I was hoping the consecutive post would obviate that due to continuity. I guess not. Anyway, the Camaro is dope. Overexposed, maybe, but an all around great car from GM. And the first Camaro since the '67-'69 model that I would be proud to put in my garage. iluvamcars – I was responding to the post from wideopenthrottle, directly above mine. I didn’t call his name out as I was hoping the consecutive post would obviate that due to continuity. I guess not. Anyway, the Camaro is dope. Overexposed, maybe, but an all around great car from GM. And the first Camaro since the ’67-’69 model that I would be proud to put in my garage.

]]> By: superman http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-camaro-ss-review.html#comment-483416 superman Fri, 04 Sep 2009 20:11:16 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20919#comment-483416 I'd wait for the Mustang. I hate the ass on the Camaro. High, flat and ugly. Mustang looks good all the way around and performs better. I’d wait for the Mustang. I hate the ass on the Camaro. High, flat and ugly. Mustang looks good all the way around and performs better.

]]> By: JakeK66 http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-camaro-ss-review.html#comment-483414 JakeK66 Fri, 04 Sep 2009 20:09:02 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20919#comment-483414 GMInsider told me on Twitter and confirmed on Facebook that in 2011 - they will use the 2.4 Turbo from the Solstice GXP as the base engine - specs are to be 260 hp and closer in weight to the Mustang V-6. GMInsider told me on Twitter and confirmed on Facebook that in 2011 – they will use the 2.4 Turbo from the Solstice GXP as the base engine – specs are to be 260 hp and closer in weight to the Mustang V-6.

]]> By: JakeK66 http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-camaro-ss-review.html#comment-483409 JakeK66 Fri, 04 Sep 2009 20:00:15 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20919#comment-483409 2013 Iroc Z gets a return.... Uh Oh, I'm as bad as Need4SSpeed 2013 Iroc Z gets a return…. Uh Oh, I’m as bad as Need4SSpeed

]]> By: murphy1 http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-camaro-ss-review.html#comment-483408 murphy1 Fri, 04 Sep 2009 19:58:57 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20919#comment-483408 im with you jake, ive been a pontiac man all my life and ford was always the enemy. but i agree, this is the typical "late to the party" effort by the french company -olet who was instrumental in pontiacs demise. never thought id say this but the new mustang is my new favorite....gulp! im with you jake, ive been a pontiac man all my life and ford was always the enemy. but i agree, this is the typical “late to the party” effort by the french company -olet who was instrumental in pontiacs demise. never thought id say this but the new mustang is my new favorite….gulp!

]]> By: Need4SSpeed http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-camaro-ss-review.html#comment-483404 Need4SSpeed Fri, 04 Sep 2009 19:42:31 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20919#comment-483404 2012 Z28 gets released... Oh wait did I just type that online???? Whooops!!! My bad.... 2012 Z28 gets released… Oh wait did I just type that online???? Whooops!!! My bad….

]]> By: JakeK66 http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-camaro-ss-review.html#comment-483401 JakeK66 Fri, 04 Sep 2009 19:33:40 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20919#comment-483401 I was the biggest fan of this when it came out, but I've grown to like the new Mustang. It's probably a mixture of things - including GM's bankruptcy, but the new Mustang really is quite a looker. The Camaro is a great car, it deserves praise, but as with everything, it's still in a fad phase. I hate to go with fads, so I'd buy a Mustang to be different, I thought I'd never say that, but it's true. I'll be waiting for the 2011 MY, then never look back. I was the biggest fan of this when it came out, but I’ve grown to like the new Mustang. It’s probably a mixture of things – including GM’s bankruptcy, but the new Mustang really is quite a looker. The Camaro is a great car, it deserves praise, but as with everything, it’s still in a fad phase. I hate to go with fads, so I’d buy a Mustang to be different, I thought I’d never say that, but it’s true. I’ll be waiting for the 2011 MY, then never look back.

]]> By: 2WheeledSpeed http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-camaro-ss-review.html#comment-483400 2WheeledSpeed Fri, 04 Sep 2009 19:33:10 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20919#comment-483400 I'm a Mustang guy but I'm glad the Camaro is back, just as I was sad to see GM get rid of it a few years back. It's been a great competition to watch stretching back to 1967, and I'm of the belief that you need a little competition to build great cars (Otherwise, where's the incentive?). I’m a Mustang guy but I’m glad the Camaro is back, just as I was sad to see GM get rid of it a few years back. It’s been a great competition to watch stretching back to 1967, and I’m of the belief that you need a little competition to build great cars (Otherwise, where’s the incentive?).

]]> By: A4 http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-camaro-ss-review.html#comment-483397 A4 Fri, 04 Sep 2009 19:21:25 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20919#comment-483397 Well seeing as how "BM" brought back the Camaro at all, it would look like they learned a lesson. You should be thankful that everyone isn't driving around in Aveo's and 15 year old Cavaliers. Well seeing as how “BM” brought back the Camaro at all, it would look like they learned a lesson. You should be thankful that everyone isn’t driving around in Aveo’s and 15 year old Cavaliers.

]]> By: fordlover999 http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-camaro-ss-review.html#comment-483394 fordlover999 Fri, 04 Sep 2009 19:15:05 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20919#comment-483394 I dont like the styling of the camaro. I dont like the styling of the camaro.

]]> By: Noah http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-camaro-ss-review.html#comment-483390 Noah Fri, 04 Sep 2009 19:08:56 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20919#comment-483390 THis review is some much BS. BM was late to the start, will never overtake the mustang now and frankly I think the cars looks stink, even in SS drag. The price is to high and as usual the BM dealers are surcharging. Do BM or the dealers ever learn their lesson??? THis review is some much BS. BM was late to the start, will never overtake the mustang now and frankly I think the cars looks stink, even in SS drag. The price is to high and as usual the BM dealers are surcharging. Do BM or the dealers ever learn their lesson???

]]> By: iluvamcars http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-camaro-ss-review.html#comment-483388 iluvamcars Fri, 04 Sep 2009 19:08:07 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20919#comment-483388 This test is different. This was a week long test, while others were quick drives. This review is probably the best so far. -iluvamcars This test is different. This was a week long test, while others were quick drives. This review is probably the best so far.

-iluvamcars

]]> By: iluvamcars http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-camaro-ss-review.html#comment-483387 iluvamcars Fri, 04 Sep 2009 19:07:02 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20919#comment-483387 I would rather have this over the Mustang. This looks much better. Asfar as handling, i really don't care because i don't have the money to even buy a top of the line model like the SS. I am all about performance nd the Camaro has beaten the Mustang in most tests. Only a few tests have results where the mustang wins. Me, i think its all about who is driving the car. Everyone drives different, resulting in different results. zfender? What are you even talking about? -iluvamcars I would rather have this over the Mustang. This looks much better. Asfar as handling, i really don’t care because i don’t have the money to even buy a top of the line model like the SS. I am all about performance nd the Camaro has beaten the Mustang in most tests. Only a few tests have results where the mustang wins. Me, i think its all about who is driving the car. Everyone drives different, resulting in different results.

zfender? What are you even talking about?

-iluvamcars

]]> By: Kid Icarus http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-camaro-ss-review.html#comment-483385 Kid Icarus Fri, 04 Sep 2009 19:05:44 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20919#comment-483385 The 2011 Mustang is going to be a better car The 2011 Mustang is going to be a better car

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