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Report: Pontiac G8 to live on as Chevrolet Caprice

07/11/2009, 1:39 PM

By Nick Aziz

Importing the Australian-market Holden Commodore to America as the Pontiac G8 was arguably one of the smarter moves GM’s management made with regard to the Pontiac brand. But with the demise of the division at hand, Americans are once again without a large rear-wheel-drive sedan from The General. Or maybe not. If Vice Chairman Bob Lutz has his way, the G8 will become the new Chevrolet Caprice.

GM previously stated it would not rebadge the G8 as a Chevy, but rumors about its revival surfaced just over a month ago. A renewed role for Lutz at the company means he will likely push for the car to saved. “Lutz will take over,” GM Chief Financial Officer Ray Young told BusinessWeek. “If he concludes that there is a role [for the G8] to play, we’ll listen.”

But don’t take Young’s word for it. Mr. Lutz himself confirms the G8 will live on. “We decided that we would continue to import it as a Chevrolet,” Lutz told Automobile. “It is kind of too good to waste.”

It’s unclear how quickly the new Caprice might come to market. Essentially, the G8 would only require new badges and a different grille. Of course, even designing a new grille takes time. It could be months before the new Caprice goes shows up in showrooms.

As for its overall appearance, we suspect it will look similar to the Lumina sold in Middle East markets (pictured). However, GM cannot use the exact same fascia because it is not designed to conform to U.S. safety regulations.

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07/11, 4:53 PM

posted by:

Rafa LL

It’s always an insult for the classic.

07/11, 4:53 PM

posted by:

Madcapp

Hmmm, looks like its time for a proper Impala SS again…instead of a FWD impostor.

07/11, 4:58 PM

posted by:

Speeeed3Z

What an abomination. The G8 to live on as a Chevy Caprice?

Does anyone even remember what a Caprice looks like!?!?!

07/11, 4:59 PM

posted by:

Ring-Taxi

“Of course, even designing a new grille takes time.”

You would think that it wouldn’t be a problem for a company where badge engineering is prevalent.

07/11, 5:06 PM

posted by:

Francois_1616

Its been sold in South Africa for a few years now, as the Chevrolet Lumina and Lumina SS. Why don’t they just call it the Chevy Lumina in the USA. I Like the name! http://www.chevrolet.co.za/content_data/LAAM/ZA/en/GBPZA/001/models/1F/gallery.html

07/11, 5:13 PM

posted by:

johngalt

Was it Cole Trickle or Rowdy Burns who drove a Lumina?

07/11, 5:32 PM

posted by:

GRIFF

I’m happy. The G8 is a superb car. However it lives on is fine by me. They could have called it a “4 door Chevelle” and I wouldn’t care. …Ok THAT would be overkill but Caprice is fine.

07/11, 5:37 PM

posted by:

reedfast

call it what you want, you can now buy a G8 and not be afraid of parts rarity!

07/11, 5:55 PM

posted by:

idrinorbarsaku

Hmmmm… I don’t know if I like or hate this. The caprice holds an image in my mind of being a comfort highway cruiser, not a sports car. I think this should replace the current impala name, and the current impala should become the caprice, even thous they were both the same vehilce body back in the day.

07/11, 5:57 PM

posted by:

zoomzoomer

Was there ever any doubt the G8 would become a Chevy? I’m sure the ST will be right behind it as the new El Camino! But that name.. I say kill the FWD Impala replacement and use the G8 instead.. all the family sedan business can be absorbed by the Malibu, which is actually a larger car than the current lame-duck Impala anyway.

07/11, 6:11 PM

posted by:

DB9

Thank Gawd for Bob lol:-)) Seriously though, I hope this true because the car is too good to waste. The Aussies knocked one out of the park when they were given the resources to develop Zeta. There is NO comparable RWD platform on the planet for the price. Furthermore, the platform has not even been brought to its potential. A previously posted link:

http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mellor.nsf/story2/D966E14708147B46CA2575BD00033A20

GM could also use this car for NA police fleets – a large market of 60k+ units a year. The platform is over engineered and would excel under this type of use.

Engine wise: DI3.0, DI3.6 and the current Gen IV V8’s L76 & LS3

If they do in fact do this, keep the same wheelbase as the current G8 not the LWB of the international market Caprice and/or China’s Park Avenue. Hey use the LWB for Buick and the Caddy STS/DTS replacement. I believe that Zeta was engineered to accept AWD applications similar to the CTS’s Sigma II.

The only thing I don’t like is the use of the Caprice name. If they can’t use Impala (still in production) call it a Chevelle; Dodge did the same with the Charger.

Anyway, nice to think about – hope they do it!:-)

DB9;-)

PS. The G8 is smaller, lighter, faster, better driving dynamics, roomier and just as and/or more fuel efficient than the 2010 AWD Lacrosse, Taurus and a a lot of other mid-size V6sedans. The 3.6DI 6spd in the Camaro is rated at 29mpg hwy

07/11, 6:18 PM

posted by:

Rodman

I’m glad Bob Lutz is back and made the decision to keep the G8 as aChevy, but the ‘Impala SS’ would be a betterchoice of names.

07/11, 6:26 PM

posted by:

TheSkwid

To DB9,
I lost interest in your post somewhere around the word Bob. You clearly have too much time on your hands.

07/11, 6:29 PM

posted by:

DB9

^whatever;-) thanks for letting me know sunshine…

DB9;-)

07/11, 6:35 PM

posted by:

johnnycanuck

I love the Caprice name. Well, just about any real name is better than most of the alphanumeric mishmash we’re forced to digest and memorize like some high school chemistry exam. I simply, however, cannot believe the dissenters who have posted above. How many of you have lamented that an otherwise great automobile was ruined by the Pontiac ’snout’? My only fear is that if they interpret the new Chevy ‘face’ too literally it may not look any better. I very much like the treatment they’ve given the Lumina in the picture. Do what they must to bring it up to our standards but please leave that basic fascia in place.

07/11, 7:15 PM

posted by:

SomeGreek

As if they wouldn’t find a way!

07/11, 8:49 PM

posted by:

VictorRaikkonen

‘As for its overall appearance, we suspect… However, GM cannot use the exact same fascia because it is not designed to conform to U.S. regulations.’

That is the exact same fascia used on the Commodore here in Oz… my questions is has LeftLame seen the front fascia of the current CTS-V.

07/11, 8:50 PM

posted by:

swamprat

Chevy should drive the current Impala in a lake and replace it with this car. The current Impala suffers from being underpowered, overweight and boring.

07/11, 8:55 PM

posted by:

CRFIII

Caprice = vinyl tops and overstuffed velour barcolounger seats

07/11, 9:08 PM

posted by:

Borat

This is reminiscent of Statues of Liberty sold in NYC. They all are made in China. I reckon this is face of modern GM: we are paying for marketing lab that imports cars from all over the globe. Well, at least I feel good paying for Australian cars: they always been our trusted ally.

On financial side of equation, GM was selling Impalas to most of the police departments as a work horse. I see a number of Chargers, but this is a small number, usually for a chief or his son in a small department and a few in NYC (deemed interceptors, however in Manhattan not very overweight cop on foot will outrace traffic). Impala always been rental car, government car etc. If G8/Impala becomes RWD, the price will go up, delivery time (from Australia!) will be a year and how GM will be selling them? We already know that it was not success with public, despite being a great car. Putz at his best, as usual.

07/11, 9:09 PM

posted by:

llt21

How many days has it been since they came out of Chapter 11? What the first thing they do, they bring some crappy caprice back that was discontinued over 10 years ago. GM, do even listen to your customers. Obviously not because you still make Hummers, Saturns, Pontiac, and Saabs. Does GM think the American people are stupid?

GM is claiming to be the “NEW GM” So they are going sale the American people a discontinued 2009 Pontiac G8 and just rebate it as “NEW” Chevrolet Caprice that they stop making in the US in 1996. OMG and we gave this company over 50 BILLION dollars and that is the best they can do.

I would not be surprise if GM announced on Monday, they are going to remake the Pontiac G6 as a Chevrolet Celebrity.

What an American Failure

Thanks GM keep it up

07/11, 9:11 PM

posted by:

2WheeledSpeed

As stupid as it is to call it the Caprice I really don’t want them to call it a Chevelle. We don’t need a second American classic replaced by an Aussie sports car (That looks nothing like the original) merely so GM can make a few bucks off the nameplate.

07/11, 9:35 PM

posted by:

carstuff

Wow, more idiots. Just 2 weeks ago everyone was clammering to save the G8 as a Chevrolet. Now its stupid for GM to do it. This is wonderful news.

For those who want to kill the current Impala it is #9 in US sales in June. Perhaps it is a lot of fleet but it is selling well. Would like to see a different name than Caprice. BUT again this is all rumors and made up info (like the green GM logo) so who knows what will really happen.

IF they do do this they will build it in Oshawa with the Camaro ASAP to bring down the price.

07/11, 9:37 PM

posted by:

carstuff

As a side note I really doubt they will call it a Caprice. For the guy who asked if we remember what a Caprice looks like. I do, It looks like an Impala with a bit more chrome.

07/11, 9:38 PM

posted by:

carstuff

Has anybody noticed the magazine ads with the Buick Regal/Insignia? They refer to it as a concept car.

07/11, 10:17 PM

posted by:

Amoeba

This article was enough reason for me to go through the trouble of finding my LLN login!

First off, I completely agree with DB9.

This is fantastic news!! The G8 was honestly one of the nicest cars that GM had offered in the US in a long time. You know it’s serious when it’s being compared to the 5 series BMW for power and amenities for not even HALF the price!! I had actually taken the time to write in to Pontiac a few months ago expressing my deep sorrow for 1) the end of the brand 2) the discontinuing of the G8

As for the Caprice name, meh… but the name isn’t everything

07/11, 10:33 PM

posted by:

Architect

Rock. On.

07/11, 10:46 PM

posted by:

johnnycanuck

Well God forbid Bob Lutz from having a grasp of Chevrolet’s history. I didn’t hear much bitching when they brought back the Camaro. How dare they resurrect a name from the past. For over 30 years the Caprice represented the top rung in Chevrolet’s sedan lineup and now it’s about to resume that mantle. If you ask me it’s about f*cking time!

Borat, G8 sales were on the climb even as Pontiac’s demise was becoming public knowledge. I have stated in many posts that half of GM’s current malaise can be attributed to their habit of replacing an existing model with another of a different name. This is a good first step; now if they can only avoid these consistent absences in some of their most recognized models there may be hope yet.

DB9, skrew TheSkwid. At least it’s the internet so he probably didn’t get ink on his dink.

07/11, 11:12 PM

posted by:

Commodore

See, this is why Lutz is important and not just “another greedy exec…blah blah” like people accuse him of being. Even GM haters out there must admit that if it were not for Lutz, GM would be much worse in terms of the vehicles it offered.

07/11, 11:33 PM

posted by:

llt21

I would say if it wasn’t for the “Taxpayer” GM would have file Chapter 7 and it would have been over.

Thanks GM keep it

07/11, 11:51 PM

posted by:

Architect

All these reports about dismal G8 sales, and I just read that for 2009, it was outselling the Infiniti G37 sedan and the Acura TL. Wow.

07/11, 11:57 PM

posted by:

MHW

I have always thought Lutz was good for GM and I must say that I’m very pleased to see the G8 return as a Chevy. If they decide to give Chevy the GXP motor the Taurus Sho is going to have one mean competitor!

07/12, 12:16 AM

posted by:

Bankruptcy2009

I think its time Ford Motor Ups the Ante on the SHO Next iteration (And I am Sure they will) No matter what. THE SHO in its current format OWNs THE G8 GXP MHW on Wet and inclimate roads where it counts. Besides being technologically inferior to the SHO, but when you have AWD you can OWN any RWD or FWD car even if it Has 1000 HP like the Veyron. WHen you don’t you can’t. And the GXP does’nt have what it takes to hang with the Mighty Ford Taurus SHO.
But I think as Ford has talked about the DDCT that plus a little Bump in the HP category should put down any Chevy Caprice of Impala uprising Fast!

07/12, 12:42 AM

posted by:

armstealer

:)

07/12, 1:01 AM

posted by:

Architect

Bankruptcy2009:

I want to like the Taurus SHO, and I hope it does well. But its design is clumsy, it’s soft in the handling department, and it NO way would it hang with a G8 GXP.

07/12, 1:24 AM

posted by:

bigdawg

Why can’t GM build it at the same plant the Camaro is produced? I hope GM corrects a few of the interior control oddities. Move the door lock button & window switches to the door panel, get rid of the red dash lights & give it a Chevrolet themed interior. Offer the 3.0L direct injection v6 standard & the 3.6L “high line” optional & then more than likely they would offer a Police package. Chevrolets new grill design would intergrate well onto it. It couldn’t cost that much more.

07/12, 1:37 AM

posted by:

andy

Bankruptcy’s mom obviously took his ACME Rocket Anal Beads away and he’s just pissed

07/12, 2:14 AM

posted by:

JakeK66

Yet another reason why I’m a bug Lutz fan. Wasn’t I the one to say call it the “Poopy in Your Pants McTurd Mobile” and it’s stilll a great car, no matter the name. Don’t diss on the Lutz, he’s the best asset GM has got for common sense with a pure car enthusiasts heart. This is more than awesome news,

LUTZ IS MY HERO!

07/12, 2:25 AM

posted by:

JakeK66

Another thing, could it be possible that GM has been planning this all along? It makes sense that they would trying to unload G8 inventory since people would assume it would be the end of an era of RWD sedans from GM and buy them as investments – or just for the thought it would be unique.

Just a thought…

07/12, 3:05 AM

posted by:

zeegone

Insideline.com just did a test of a new SHO vs an infintit G37. The numbers were produced and they were valid. The G37 won. I have driven both the G and the other G……..8. A G8 GXP posts better numbers all over the place. G8 GXP wins hands down and it barely has to try. The SHO is still impressive but it be out of it’s league trying to beat the GXP.

The Caprice name would have been one of last I’d ever throw on a G8, it’s reputation is already good, why does the Caprice name have to live on with a car that is far more worthy of the caprice name? It doesn’t deserve it! If anything call it the new Impala SS which is far more suiting.

This really is great news, the G8 needs to stay, it was too young to die. Please please please don’t name it a Caprice, there is so much wrong with that I don’t know where to begin. “hey guys, i’ll drive, just pile in the caprice”- eeeek!

07/12, 3:06 AM

posted by:

BuyUSA

When I think “Caprice” a 4 door land barge with a vinyl roof and whitewall tires comes to mind. WRONG MOVE LUTZ. Shoulda chopped the rear doors off and brought it back as a Grand National, OR as the Impala SS replacement for the current POS!!!

07/12, 3:40 AM

posted by:

DetroitWatcher

Huh… I was kinda hoping that it would come back as a Cadillac; perhaps the new STS. But this is still good news.

07/12, 4:18 AM

posted by:

F50

Making a new grille won’t take time since its already there…..

This is good news, but they can just bring the Lumina found in South Africa, I think it would save money. and Lumina is a more fitting name than Caprice, but not as fitting as Impala.

07/12, 4:34 AM

posted by:

F50

oh forget about the grille thing, I didn’t read that last part.

07/12, 6:15 AM

posted by:

Stinky007

Who cares about the name, it’s the one decent sedan GM can sell in the near future and they’re wasting time with name picking!
Call it the new “Chevrolet No Model Name”, drop the LS1 in it and it will sell like hotcakes!

07/12, 7:04 AM

posted by:

leftwingagenda

wrong move lutz? you’re that hung up over the name that you can’t change your perception to fit reality, if the g8 is re-named caprice? really? you think the name of the car is going to really matter all that much? the car is selling well these days, under the name g8, even…where’s the heritage in the name g8? it’s pretty much one of the most boring and generic names for a car on the planet…only audi can get top this level of boring for a name…1 letter, 1 number…gee, that took a lot of effort…and yet it sells, why? because people don’t give a crap about the name…end of story…wake the hell up…

07/12, 11:06 AM

posted by:

jayjc08

Everyone claims the G8 was one of GM’s better moves, yet they are only moving mildly good numbers.

Good car with some typical aussie problems when it came to America.

They don’t need the Malibu, Impala and Caprice. The one out of those three that I would not use would be the Caprice. Malibu is mid-sized, Impala is full-sized. GM ruined the Caprice name after 75′.

07/12, 11:10 AM

posted by:

oldraven

“all the family sedan business can be absorbed by the Malibu, which is actually a larger car than the current lame-duck Impala anyway.”

O_o ?

Seriously? It’s about 9″ shorter than the FULL SIZE Impala.

07/12, 11:51 AM

posted by:

anyclearer

dont get the fuss, a name………is a name……..cry a river who cars, sweet ass car is a sweet ass car. IMO they should just make it the new impala. Or redo just the outside and call its the STS

07/12, 12:02 PM

posted by:

zoomzoomer

oldraven, you are right.. the Impala is a full-size car because it has about 12″ more overhang on a shorter wheelbase than the Malibu.. but the interior space is startlingly similar between the two. I concede that the Impala is the bigger car based on EPA volume, but with both being marketed as generic family sedans, aren’t they pretty much redundant? It would be great to have a G8-based Impala as the sportier, more upscale performance flagship, and allow the Malibu to absorb some of the luxury and comfort features of the current uplevel Impalas.

07/12, 12:13 PM

posted by:

Bankruptcy2009

I’m afraid your right Architect and Zeegone the G8 GXP is out of the Taurus SHO’s League. Its in a League Several Notches LOWER THAN THE TAURUS SHO Performance particularly and ( and I can prove it) then for the awesome tech features the Ford Taurus comes laden with. Plus to compare a POS GM product with the High Quality of Ford is like comparing a POS with Creme de la Creme.

In Other words , A more True Comparison would be the Taurus SHO VS BMW’s M-5 Sedan this is without a doubt Finest performance in terms of performance and refinement ( All Sedans) in the world are Measured. (Germany Engineering of Course), very smooth shifting and well balanced. Not Junk, The Ford Taurus is truely the only Performance Automobile worthy of comparion.
Lets take a look at the Performance Numbers shall we Gentlemen.

Pontiac G8 GXP 0-60 in 4.9 Seconds. Quarter Mile in 13.3 Seconds
Ford Taurus SHO 0-60 4.8 Seconds Quarter Mile is 13.2 Seconds.
BMW M5 0-60 4.1 Seconds Quarter Mile in 12.5 Seconds.

So there you have it. G8 GXP comes in Dead Last!

I think without a doubt Ford has already tested the Twin Turbo to 450 HP no doubt they could take the Twin Screw V-6 to 600 HP to match the upcoming BMW for 2011/2012. I rest my case.

07/12, 12:23 PM

posted by:

mmmfloorpie

What does the Chevy Caprice of yore have to do with the G8 of today? NOTHING. What a stupid idea this would be! Such a sexy car with a stuffy, old man name! Just call it the Chevy Commodore!

07/12, 1:04 PM

posted by:

F50

You can’t compare those to an M5, the M5 hits 205MPH while the GXP hits 170. and also the Bimmer is twice as expensive.

07/12, 1:26 PM

posted by:

andy

bankruptcy, driving in a straight line for 0-60 and 1/4 mile times are one thing, but i thing even you would be able to the tell the difference between the two on a track, and the GXP would come out on top… not to mention, MotorTrend along with many other 3rd party groups claim 0-60 times on the GXP at 4.6 – 4.7 seconds and 1/4 mile at 13.0… so stfu you retarded transient piece of loose stool

07/12, 1:41 PM

posted by:

Bankruptcy2009

Andy. I think your talkin out your ass. Motor Trend did a rather poor evaluation on the Taurus SHO at 5.2 Seconds its more than Capable of turning 4.2 Seconds 0-60 and Quarter Mile times Just like the Beemer at 12.5 Second 1/4 mile. So your right I was off. The Twin Force has been tested to 450 HP so I have no doubts it will go even higher than your POS Heavy V-8 GXP. Once again the GXP is several Rungs beneath the Taurus. A REAL TURD of a car lol

But this G8 was an excuse to keep Pontiac Going oh well. I guess it did’nt work. Now you will send it to Chevy meanwhile Ford will Continue to Beat the **** out of GM.

07/12, 1:46 PM

posted by:

DetroitWatcher

I very much like the Taurus SHO, and might purchase it over a G8 GXP based on its looks, interior, and Ford’s better reliability record. However, I don’t think it would do well in a performance comparison with the G8 GXP. But out on the street, you rarely get a chance to push these cars to their limits anyway.

07/12, 1:50 PM

posted by:

sharpie

I don’t mind seeing this as a police car. It will work great for the open highway cops (aka State Trooper) to chase speeders. The Caprice name is only a name, the substance is the car that is G8 / GTO / Caprice / Commodore doesn’t change.

But if this is going to go against the Ford Interceptor and Dodge Charger in the police business, I think they should use the Chevy Citation name, especially if much of the business is in giving traffic “citations” anyway.

07/12, 2:22 PM

posted by:

reedfast

Bankruptcy, you know that the SHO can’t do 0-60 in 4.2 secs. Pleas, for everyone’s sake, stop spewing nonsense or go away.

07/12, 2:33 PM

posted by:

Bankruptcy2009

Detroitwatcher this car will handle a GXP hands down in performance comparison I guarantee plus with AWD it would Lose a GXP real quick!

07/12, 2:36 PM

posted by:

Bankruptcy2009

Detroit watcher also do yourself a favor do not listen to the Redneck Reedmorebrains he’s full of it!

07/12, 2:46 PM

posted by:

reedfast

yes im definitely full of it

07/12, 3:19 PM

posted by:

exmayol

I dont care about the name really. Good to have this car around. I may even buy it one day.

07/12, 3:36 PM

posted by:

contra3

GM isn’t moving in a new direction. It’s moving along the old one wearing a new suit. I’m not getting good vibes from re-packaging a “Failed” brand name. If the G8 was really a good seller, it would have kept Pontiac alive.

07/12, 4:52 PM

posted by:

F50

A Ferrari 360 Challenge hits 0-60 in about 4.1-4.3 Seconds, no way that the SHO is faster than that, SHO is slower than the GXP and SRT8 Charger(Its rivals) and way slower than an M5. All cars have their pros and cons though.

07/12, 5:25 PM

posted by:

iluvamcars

I am happy about this. The Commodore can stay! Oh and do not miss the very heated debate between me and 1115 at the Mitsu and Suzuki should forget America article. Do it, and i want everyone to comment.

07/12, 8:30 PM

posted by:

Fleming in Tennessee

I think GM should keep the Pontiac Nameplate and offer the Pontiac G8 as a standalone vehicle to be sold at Buick/GMC dealers such as the single units Maxima and Avalon are done. That would keep a great American nameplate alive for better days. I further believe GM should offer a single Oldsmobile vehicle under the same senario to keep Americas oldest nameplate kicking. There’d be very little cost involved since the G8 is already available, and an Oldsmobile (maybe the Soltice) would be a natural, just change the name, (sounds like a back rub).

07/12, 8:41 PM

posted by:

HoosierHero

Love this idea, but it would have been better as an Impala replacement. The current model is a little long in the tooth and the Mailbu is cannibalizing sales as it is. I agree that when I think of Caprice I’m thinking of a highway cruiser. Either way good call GM.

07/12, 9:16 PM

posted by:

A.J.

Ever read Inside Line? They did a track comparison of the Taurus SHO and the G8 GT – yes, the GT. Their 0-60 times were equal, at 5.8 seconds. The GT also had a 1mph better slalom, with LESS HORSEPOWER, because the GT is LIGHTER.

The GXP is an entirely different story. 0-60 clocked in at 4.9 seconds and a 63mph slalom. The SHO is in GT territory, not GXP territory. Oh, and POS heavy GXP, you say? Get this – the SHO is almost 400 pounds HEAVIER than the GXP (SHO – 4404, GXP – 4049).

I’m glad Lutz is considering badging the G8 as a Chevy – IMO that’s what they should’ve done alongside the new Camaro. But, I do think that the Taurus SHO looks better on the inside (you can get it in a color other than black, heh).

07/12, 9:47 PM

posted by:

Bankruptcy2009

AJ GXP is from GM- Garbage Motors- and can not hold its own with the AWD Vehicle especially the SHO.

07/12, 10:11 PM

posted by:

carstuff

Bankruptcy, people show you facts and yet you still put out the bu****t. give it up

07/12, 11:06 PM

posted by:

injunraiv

I have a G8 GT, and it is a GREAT car. You people who are bashing it have no frigging clue what you are talking about. But then what else would we expect from the ‘intelligencia’ here on the LLN boards?

07/12, 11:21 PM

posted by:

Blakkarr

I’m happy to hear that the ZETA is getting another turn, if as a CHEVROLET. It still saddens me that PONTIAC is going going, in 2010… gone. Maybe Lutz can spin the Kappa into that rumored V6 “baby” CORVETTE, the STINGRAY.

As for insults like Caprice, people forget so fast that the B-body Impala SS, the most bad-@$$ car GM made in the early to mid 1990s was a B-body CAPRICE with a kickin’ engine, and tight police pursuit style suspension. It’s still one of the greatest cars GM has ever made. It was a good looking and HUGE car.

This ZETA car may not be so big. The B-Body was bigger than the DODGE CHARGER. Bigger than the FORD Panther platform. IT was sooo bid… (How big was it?) You could literally live with a family of three in the thing for a week, with access to restrooms, no problem. Body Funk not withstanding…

As for dear little Bankruptcy2009,

A.J., Carstuff, and everyone else, do NOT give him anymore of your time when the snot-nosed VG-freak spouts off about AWD. He has no idea what he is talking about and unless you can find him and throttle him directly, he can feign wax polish lyrical about AWD. He is just trying to be “famous”. Ignore the fool.

07/12, 11:23 PM

posted by:

Blakkarr

Still begs the question though, Where is my FALCON, Alan?

07/12, 11:59 PM

posted by:

andy

Blakkarr, ive been saying for years that GM should use the kappa as a stingray, dont call it a corvette stingray, simply Stingray… and do this simply because of the 2.0T, im not sure how well a 4cyl would go over in the vette community, but it would help ease the thought of 4cyl engines in vette (and i dont think we are far away from that happening with CAFE and all), the 2.0T had an upgrade for the cobalt to 290HP, so run that as the base and offer a V6 around 350-375hp, price the 4cyl 3-4grand more than the GXP was (because of the bump from 260 to 290HP), and have the v6 come in just under the vette coupe starting, say like low 40’s

give it a nice throwback look to the c3

07/13, 4:01 AM

posted by:

F50

I agree about the B-Body being huge, my Grandma had one a few years ago.(1999 I think)

07/13, 6:33 AM

posted by:

carstuff

Funny, but not too many years ago (well 50;)) most all cars sold here were B-body sized. It took the government to take them away and forced us all to buy even more gas hoggy SUV’s.

07/13, 8:32 AM

posted by:

injunraiv

I thought about this story overnight and came to the realization that Chevy should NOT get this car. It should be a Buick. Name it the Roadmaster, or even better Electra or Riviera. Leave the cheap cars to Chevy – this is too nice for them!

07/13, 8:33 AM

posted by:

ricky_b

I’m really OK with keeping the G8 on US shores and even OK rebranding as a Chevy. But Caprice? That’s a tainted name with consumers. Please come up with a better name.

07/13, 8:35 AM

posted by:

ricky_b

AND PLEASE DON”T CALL IT IMPALA!!! That name is even worse than Caprice.

07/13, 8:48 AM

posted by:

hotspur76

I’m still amazed ford hasn’t put just a little bit more money Ford Australia’s way. There seems to be enough interest to work on a LHD model.

The F6 and GTt are equally good rear wheel drive sedans, the F6 particularly beats the equivalent HSV models on the track.

Australia doesn’t just have GM goodies hidden away:

http://www.fpv.com.au/index.aspx

07/13, 8:58 AM

posted by:

carstuff

Buick will be getting its own large sedan.

07/13, 9:03 AM

posted by:

ihustle

Bankruptcy gives you guys FACTS and your still in denial. Its fine to be in love with GOVERNMENT MOTORS but if your presented with facts then just accept them and move on. The g8’s resale value is ****. With the redesign of the new taurus and the horsepower to back it. MARK MY WORDS it will be the best seliing full size sedan for 2010. Are you guys keeping in mind the New Taurus is a FULLSIZE sedan. It still smokes the g8 in the quartermile. There Making the G8 a Caprice because word around town is GM wants to make a bid at GOVERNMENT VEHICLES. Thats right COP CARS! haha kind of funny being the GOVERNMENT owns a good portion of them. :D

07/13, 9:10 AM

posted by:

andy

i hope you were joking because every stat. ButtRuptcy gave, i, along with others shut down and have proven the G8 being faster… and GM could supply PD’s with Commodores as cop cars whether or not they were being sold to the domestic public

07/13, 9:19 AM

posted by:

ihustle

Ohhh wait the quarter mile race doesnt count right??? Ohhh thats because they go in a straight line! haha what your confusing is FACTS vs OPINIONS. ” If America cant sell them, our Government will. Coming to a police station near you, the 2011 CAPRICE!!!!!”

07/13, 9:26 AM

posted by:

andy

GXP is faster in slalom, 0-60 and 1/4.. pull your fist out of your ass and navigate over to any review of both cars

07/13, 10:06 AM

posted by:

ihustle

WOW Great insult. I am seriously impressed with your mature 7th grade comebacks. Did they teach you that in school? hahaha †If America cant sell them, our Government will. Coming to a police station near you, the 2011 CAPRICE!!!!!â€

07/13, 10:10 AM

posted by:

Bankruptcy2009

Andy THe fact is The Taurus will outrun the GXP in a True Crosscountry Race there is NO WAY in HELL a RWD Car like the Pontiac GXP (Soon to be Defunct-Wonder Why) will Compete in the Twisties and in ALL Weather conditions with a AWD (Large) Supercar like the Ford Motors SHO. SHO Will KIll the G8 GXP in a Landslide easily!

07/13, 10:16 AM

posted by:

non_biased_enthusiast

Whatever Andy, the SHO Bankruptcy is talking about is in his head. Nobody else is allowed in his head. In his head, all Ford products are at least 1 second faster than any published test. Nothing we can say will change this.

07/13, 10:18 AM

posted by:

CADDY-V

Not to knock Ford in any way but the GXP is compaired to a 550i BMW the SHO has been compaired to nothing yet that I have seen.
So if the GXP could take on the 550i BMW I’m sure there is a good chance it would take out the SHO.
What ever happens it’s a great car and looks good on the road. I saw 3 on the way to the office today red,black, and silver all looked great.
What ever GM does make it a Chevy a Buick just keep building it.

07/13, 10:21 AM

posted by:

andy

well Nurburgring seems to be the proving grounds, the GXP did it in 8.30.. everyone thought the AWD GT-R would beat the ZR-1 but that still has yet to come to fruition.. dont be so sure of the SHO

the SHO is a great car, but so is the GXP, and between the two, the GXP is the better performer

07/13, 10:52 AM

posted by:

KarLoveBoy88

Finally the folks at GM are getting the clue! Long live the G8!!!

07/13, 11:57 AM

posted by:

S2L2SC

About damn time! Was waiting for Gm to finally find some common sense.

And Bankruptcy2009 – stfu – your just as bad as NMOFGM – it is people like the two of you that ruin inteligent discussions for eveyone.

07/13, 12:27 PM

posted by:

RaineMan

Caprice? You’re kidding, right?

Make this the Impala… PLEASE GOD!

When I think Caprice I get visions of a $2000 car with $5000 worth of stereo equipment and rims.

07/13, 1:00 PM

posted by:

ihustle

Maybe they’ll have another 50 cent edition hahaha

07/13, 1:40 PM

posted by:

Lawnchair88

GM made a good decision? I think I just saw a pig fly past my window

07/13, 5:10 PM

posted by:

DenverGuy217

Caprice eh? I wonder what it will look like painted bright yellow, running around the streets of NYC with half its rear bumper falling off

07/13, 6:06 PM

posted by:

Pazzo Canguri

I hate to rub it in guys but this is what we get all day everyday here in australia….sorry about that….lol
http://www.hsv.com.au/index.asp

07/13, 8:12 PM

posted by:

graycav56

OK Canguri, thanks for making me feel bad. You have all those cool cars and the hottest women on the planet.

But your toilets flush the wrong way…..so there!

07/13, 9:32 PM

posted by:

jayjc08

blakkar- I used to drive an Impala (police version). Yes, it was kick as.s, but hard to maneuver (wide turning circle, loose steering that was inherent to the vehicle). In other words, it was a land barge with a big motor and some suspension tweaks.

Although the same aside from the forementioned mechanics, the Caprice just withered on the vine. Most anything aside from the police versions were utter junk- and I mean that.

07/13, 9:50 PM

posted by:

johnnycanuck

100th post! There, I can cross that off my bucket list.

07/13, 9:56 PM

posted by:

andy

damn you johnny, i was just coming to do it

07/13, 10:16 PM

posted by:

AWilli

Note to GM, use the Malibu as the interior example for the Caprice to follow !

07/13, 10:58 PM

posted by:

desertdriver

I hope GM makes the LS9 available for the Caprice

07/13, 11:41 PM

posted by:

carstuff

Yep, Holden is run by the guy who used to be in charge of performance vehicles here in the states. great guy.

07/14, 12:44 AM

posted by:

mattbear

How can you compare the Taurus to the Commodore AWD or not, the Taurus is completely fugly! It fell on the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down!

07/14, 3:57 AM

posted by:

psiclone

Nice! I’m good with Caprice. People care about other people’s perceptions too much. Is 5-Series an awesome name or an awesome car? Same could be said of a dozen other cars and their names. Does the name make a difference?

Oddly, Chevy’s sedan offerings will start to seriously overlap. Although, both the Malibu and (especially) Impala are good sellers so neither model seems wise to cut. Like someone else wrote, by eliminating the current FWD Impala in favor of the new RWD, the Malibu might absorb most of its sales while the new RWD Impala could pick up some, and I’m sure many more. However, historically GM’s sibling feuding was never productive. Whatever the case, I’m glad that a RWD sedan will remain an option from GM.

And I predict Chevy’s cars will once again be more than just vanilla. Now that GM can focus on it’s brands. Lutz is an asset to GM.

The still-steaming turb otherwise known as Bankruptcy2009 should keep his racist remarks, along with the slanderous intent, off of this site.

07/14, 8:57 AM

posted by:

S2L2SC

The Impala and malibu target different demographics – Impala is more of a budget / fleet vehicle, Malibu is the nicer, upmarket offering. Since both are FWD I really do not see that much overlap with a performance based RWD sedan being added to the mix.

07/14, 12:22 PM

posted by:

beatusmongous

Psiclone, the name Gumpert comes to mind…

And Johnny, that was funny as hell.

07/14, 2:39 PM

posted by:

betterthanyou

CAPRICE?! ARE YOU SERIOUS?! Should have been the new MONTE CARLO! What are they thinking?? And to think I would have bought one as a pontiac g8 but HELL NO as a caprice…

07/14, 7:52 PM

posted by:

Need4SSpeed

Ok…. I’m coming out of my long slumber after have not commented on here for about a year… “Bankruptcy2009″ GTFO. The new Ford Taurus SHO will not beat a Pontiac GXP. The facts were already given to you and you still tend to disregard and spew your sh*t out of your ass. The Ford Taurus SHO is heavier than the Pontiac GXP, AND…. IT DOES NOT HAVE 450HP! It has 350HP and it will be lucky if it can do 60 less than 5.2 seconds. Go stand outside a Ford dealer and go and jackoff to a new Fusion or something…

Back on topic… Yeah as much as I’d rather see it be called the Lumina over a Caprice, as long as this car lives on in the U.S. Market GM can call it whatever the hell they want to call it.

07/14, 8:05 PM

posted by:

andy

me thinks the El Camino/ G8 ST/ UTE will be back on the drawing board, maybe a Caballero Denali edition for GMC

@betterthanyou: nah man, the monte is a 2 door, would be like calling this a Camaro sedan instead of Caprice… well maybe not that extreme, but you get the idea.

although brand/ name recognition does help sell a car, i think GM should go with Commodore or just an entirely new name… Commodore is a more aggressive name and thats what the car needs… just nothing alpha-numeric… well unless its SL8R and comes with a Zack Morris phone :l

07/14, 10:46 PM

posted by:

Rodman

OMG, The Lumina was a failure, and Caprice has no performance heritage. They might as well bring back the Bel-Air name. If GM can’t build a half decent FWD Impala(which it is not), they should drop the current Impala and let the very good Malibu take over and use the Impala SS name for the rebadged G8

07/15, 3:09 PM

posted by:

beatusmongous

Welcome back, Need4SSpeed. Did you ever get that Z you were going to get?

07/19, 2:11 PM

posted by:

jackjimturkey

Good!

 
 
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