best hybrid commuter coffin ever!

Why bother even launching this GM pos in one market Havent seen one on the road yet and I see 08 Accords EVERYDAY !
Give it up GM

i have a theory on that last statement, the accord has been out longer.

“we don’t want them in dealerships where they will sit for a long time, we want them sold to poor saps whil will take the bait and buy this pathetic excuse of an automobile”
Damn right they’re gonna be sat at dealerships gathering dust

tripleonefive…i second that. i recall seeing the new malibus heavily marketed several weeks ago…i still haven’t seen one on the road.

1115 is gonna love this:

…. JJT, I disagree that the Malibu Hybrid is the best hybrid commuter coffin ever.
…. The 2007 Accord Hybrid was far better! (if one absolutely must have a hybrid)

I don’t say this because I think it was an overall better product per se. The Accord Hybrid didn’t sell worth squat, but Honda at least did the right thing in that they built it with a reasonably powerful V6 motor (I think like 260hp) along with the hybrid crap, in an attempt to make the hybrid driving experience a bit of fun. If nothing else that was a laudable attempt by Honda. Too bad Ma & Pa CamCord saw it differently and bought boring Toyota crap hybrids, or otherwise maybe these companies would be attempting to produce hybrids that are actually fun to drive.

So if this is a “POS”, and a “pathetic excuse for an automobile”, what does that make the new Accord? You do realize that the new Malibu has beat the new Accord in every shootout so far right? And don’t give me the resale/reliability BS because neither is known for either car. Nor can you simply go off of the good old days since Japanese makes are on a downhill slide while Domestics continue to make huge strides forward.

i’d take an accord over the malibu

I’d take a plymouth sundance over an accord.

I would take the Accord over the Malibu as well.

is a hybrid or a fake hybrid like the others?

who knows? You want to get good MPG, buy a Yaris or a diesel.

Or wait for the Volt.
Fuel economy is its own reward

YARIS!!!!!!!! I think i am going to be sick.

i was hoping it would be dual mode.

send a link to these alleged shootouts. Also let me know which car has a higher resale better build qual and rep for reliability Ill give you a hint Its not the Maliboooo. Huge strides isnt enough
Rico suave head You are gonna love this
The thing is that the only laughable cars out there are the ones that GM Ford and Chrysler put out The aura and the Malibu are pathetic and I havent seen them on the road nearly as much as I see the best selling Camry and the future best seller the Accord
ha
Anyone in their right mind would take an Accord over a Malibu. Honda over a GM
jjt is a janitor and he likes to fix things so a Sundance would be a good choice for him

CTS: It’s a vast improvement over the echo

1115 once again proves he is a moron, are you just deaf, dumb, or blind? Apparently huge strides are enough since the new Accord can’t seam to win any shootouts vs the new Malibu. The Malibu was named one of Car and Drivers 10 best, it also made Automobile magazines top 10. If you refuse to look at reality that is your problem!!!

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/112_0802_midsize_sedan_comparison,
i like how they say all of theese are quicker than a 300zx turbo yet non have the 300hp the nissan did.
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jjt the yaris isnt too bad, and you nailed it, it is hugely drastically better.

if 1115 is deaf dumb and blind, does he play a mean pinball?

page not found bc hmm

and even if it was working the idiot said numerous which means more than one
Lets see
Also show me where the huge strides where people are running to Chevy dealers and trading in their trusted Accords and Camrys for Aura and malibu
Ill wait ….

1ST PLACE: TOYOTA CAMRY SE V-6
Finest all-around mix of power, handling, room, and bells and whistles-no wonder it was our 2007 Car of the Year.

2ND PLACE: CHEVROLET MALIBU LTZ
Great combination of sport and luxury bettered only by Camry. America’s best and segment’s best-looking.

3RD PLACE: HONDA ACCORD EX-L V-6
Vast room, attention to detail, and advanced technology can’t overcome a few obvious faults.

4TH PLACE: NISSAN ALTIMA 3.5 SE
Winner on track and twisties comes up short for lack of polish and refinement.

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The Chevy’s V6 engine trumps the Accord’s four-cylinder and the price/ content quotient is in the Malibu’s favour. General Motors, however, did walk away with the lion’s share of the hardware, winning four categories in all.
(National Post)
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“This handsome car is a sharp contrast to the new Honda Accord and Toyota Camry, which seem dowdy by comparison.”

and

“But the Malibu offers more than great styling and build quality.”
and

“GM is charging Wal-Mart prices for a product with Nordstrom elan.” (Seattle times)

Today, some of the family cars the Detroit Three offer are as good as anything on the road. Convincing buyers of that is a formidable task, however.

“People have very, very long memories,” said Michelle Krebs, editor of AutoObserver.com. “They had bad experiences with domestic cars in the ’80s and ’90s.

“Things have changed, but they are reluctant to believe it.

“It’s like a Super Accord, but from GM” — the New York Times.

• “Camry beware” — Car and Driver.

• “With its handsome Audi-esque design and good engine choices, it’s the next big thing in midsize cars” — Motor Trend.

New Accord no longer leads the pack
Lansing State Journal, MI – Dec 3, 2007

I’ll admit it: I went into this year’s Motor Trend Car of the Year competition fully expecting the all-new 2008 Honda Accord to walk away with the Golden Calipers trophy.

Technical director Frank Markus and I each did brisk back-to-back runs with the Accord EX and Malibu LTZ on the COTY test-track’s handling course. Post-drive, engines off, I looked at Frank. He looked at me. “I think the Malibu handles better,” I said. “Me, too,” said Frank.

Our test gear also preferred the Malibu: Compared with the Accord, it’s quicker, stops better, and wins every objective handling test. On a just-for-fun comparison chart that Markus cooked up, which normalized the performance results for each car in this year’s COTY competition, the Malibu finished sixth overall in handling. The Accord: 10th. Can it be? Is the new Malibu not just better than the vaunted Accord on a car-for-the-money basis but actually better in many ways than the Accord-period? The answer is an unqualified “yes.”

GM just rolled out a redesigned Chevrolet Malibu that has garnered good reviews while sales of its new large crossovers are solid. (cnnmoney.com)

Dollars and Sense
The price of the Malibu has gone up, but the overall design and quality impression has gone up more. Including destination charges, our test LTZ stickers at $27,245: $26,995 for the base LTZ plus $250 for a rear 110-volt power outlet.

As before, this puts the bottom line of the Malibu a couple of thousand under the competition, yet the surprise is that the Malibu no longer feels a couple of thousand less good than its rivals. As it stands, the 2008 Chevrolet Malibu deserves a place alongside the class leaders on the shopping list for mainstream sedans. And real greatness is within reach if Chevy puts just a few dollars more into refining one or two specific areas, like the steering. (edmunds)

GM dealers are thrilled by the reaction to the Malibu, which takes aim at the perennially popular Honda Accord and Toyota Camry sedans. Duane Paddock, the owner of Paddock Chevrolet in Kenmore, N.Y., says he has sold 27 of the 30 Malibus on his lot, and 12 more than are being shipped.

(Business week)

After testing the redesigned Malibu it’s safe to say it has joined the Japanese brands in the big leagues. Not that it’s a hands-down favorite, but that it has improved so much neither Camry nor Accord are clear standouts. Add Malibu to your shopping list.

But best GM can do? Has Lutz forgotten the 2008 Cadillac CTS and any Chevy Corvette since 1997?

(Chicago Tribune)

I believe GM’s marketing was a month ahead of manufacturing since GM only delivered like 500 Malibus in November. I did see one on the road here in Atlanta. The only article I saw that was somewhat critical was in USAToday. The 12/7 edition reemed it for steering, transmission glitch, and for some reason trashed the interior because it is susceptible to misalignment although it didn’t say anything was misaligned. All other reviews I’ve seen mentioned none of these accept the love/hate take on the two tone brick color.

2008 Malibu hailed a ‘winner’
ABC12.com, MI – Dec 3, 2007
The 2008 sedan is arriving in dealer show rooms and is capturing the attention of critics.

What impresses me most about this car is it seems to have leapfrogged a couple of generations of car evolution to land where it is today. It kind of went from zero to hero in 12 months. (Dallas Morning News)

Top of its class
Sedan has high degree of value and style
November 8, 2007

BY MARK PHELAN

FREE PRESS COLUMNIST

You may look at the 2008 Chevrolet Malibu and see an amazingly good midsize sedan at a terrific price.

I, however, prefer to see the lovely new midsize sedan as the perpetual grad student in the Chevrolet family, finally earning its degree and setting out to make its mark on the world. (Detroit Free Press)

Substance, not appearance, is what makes the Malibu an All-Star. Its six-speed automatic is worlds away from the two-speed Powerglides of yore, and it contributes to the relaxed feel of the car. The Malibu’s V-6 gives away sixteen horses to the Honda Accord yet kept up with it effortlessly. This is the kind of car Americans have wanted from Detroit for years. Now it’s here, an Automobile Magazine All-Star.

This much-improved Chevy is the first Malibu to seriously challenge top Japanese rivals in the large mid-size sedan market.

—-DAN JEDLICKA Chicago Sun-Times Auto Editor

The company I work for likes the Malibu, too.

Now, tripleoneFLUFFER.
Bow Down!

Just like you do when Sean Michaels slaps you

jjt, Malibu is a very nice rendition of Opel theme, but I would put my $$$ on Accord. It is matter of personal taste. Having said that, I’ll admit I did not “test drove” either one of them, after I accomplish it I may change my mind. Based on specs, my money goes to Honda: 4 cylinder motivates it nicely and majority of them will cam with I4, which I doubt to hold true for Malibu. I am not against V6 power and torque, but the FWD car changes balance drmatically with increased weight of V6. Car & Driver wrote that I4 in Accord more then competent and they wondered if there is a need for more torque and hp. I have to experiment myself to be sure.
For the rest of consumers number of sales will tell. I never saw Accord in rental fleet and I travel plenty.

Post the links jackass YOu think Im going to believe a guy who claims that he only got 91k out of a Honda Civic ?

I’d take the Malibu over the Accord, no question. The issue most people looking at it will have is their bias against the company for buildng **** for so long.

autonut: If you buy an accord after a logical process of examining it and other cars,that’s one thing.
Blind Loyalty is another

1. Isn’t a ‘low volume’ Chevy dealership an oxymoron?
2. It’s a ‘mild-hybrid’, like the Saturn Aura, getting only 32/24 MPG. I do better in my Volvo S60.
3. This car’s main competition will be the Saturn Aura; once again GM’s badge engineering will shoot itself in the foot. If you want a real hybrid, buy a Prius or wait for the Volt.

We had a silver one on our campus last week. The car looks good until you see the rear end. It’s quite possibly the worst rear end on a midsize sedan today.

As far as sales, unfortunately, even though there have been great reviews of the Malibu, with Toyota and Honda defending their territory, I don’t think the Japanese have much to worry about. Honda and Toyota have a momentum that has built over these past 6-7 years that is hard to stop. It’s like trying to slow down a train from 80 mph. It’s going to take more than small quality hiccups or good (not great) competition to slow it down. Plus there was a report released today that states Toyota retains 2/3rds of the customers while I believe GM was closer to 55%.

The Malibu will most likely flounder just like the Saturn Aura. The Aura had great reviews and substantial marketing, yet sales have significantly cooled off. The only way I can see GM becoming competitive with Toyota or Honda again is if they maintain/and build upon this level of products for the next 10 years.

The Malibu is getting such great reviews because it went from **** to marginal/good; not great. That’s like when Mitsubishi posts a 25% increase in sales, ie: from 2,000 units to 2,500.

Kaizen, you are right that Toyota topped retention, but nowhere near by as much as you remember. GM even beat out Honda. Gotta love Isuzu:

… … Toyota Motor Sales USA, Inc. 68.9%
… … General Motors Corp. 64.7%
… … American Honda Motor Co. 63.3%
… … BMW of North America 56.9%
… … Ford Motor Co. 54.4%
… … Subaru of America, Inc. 51.2%
… … Hyundai Motor America 50.9%
… … DaimlerChrysler 50.2%
… … Nissan North America 47.6%
… … Maserati North America, Inc. 41.9%
… … Porsche Cars North America 41.6%
… … American Suzuki Motor Corp. 39.6%
… … Volkswagen of America 38.8%
… … Kia Motors America 32.8%
… … Mitsubishi Motors North America Inc. 31.7%
… … Isuzu Motors America, Inc. 1.6%

Source: http://money.cnn.com/2007/12/06/autos/jd_power_retention_study/index.htm

BTW – I am starting too see ****loads of Auras in Austin (noticed the uptrend a few months ago). Makes me wonder if Saturn’s dealing on them now because I and others might like a Saturn, but we hate that “no-haggle” scam … you can avoid haggling at any dealership if you are retarded enough to pay the dealer’s first asking price.

Yesterday I just saw my 4th new Accord (3 sedans, 1 coupe so far). Sedan is very bland – the Coupe less so. The Coupe was actually visually tilting due to the enormous weight of the driver. I think the new Accord is definitely off to a slower start than the new Camry got. The Camry was suddenly everywhere, and I think the Accord is a better car that the Camry, but Honda jacked up the price a bit and that may be why.

Alright 1115- you’ve been proven wrong for the billionth time, and yet you bring up something that’s so old, already finished and was even barely mentioned to avoid an argument. Child. People are beginning to ignore you, you had better come up with a new name… fast!

Ricardohead- I have to think to myself though, that ALL of Isuzu’s models are re badged GM’s. I wonder what the large gap is from.

no one has proven me wrong to date
The Camry and Accord are better than anything GM has and the Malibu and Aura are no competition
The idiots on here you being one of them havent sent actual links just copy and pasted and claimed it to be true
One quote said the chevy V6 was better than the Accords 4 cylinder in PRICE! GM has to sell this thing for pennies bc that is the only thing that will help this heap move off the car lot
Before you make statements like everyone has proven you wrong please actually have some proof to back it up otherwise shut your ass up
GM SUCKS and the Malibu is a great rental car

oh and once again its JD powers which is pay for play and GM is larger than Honda THey had to combine all brands to get what a 1 difference ?

Then I guess Honda paid, and Toyota also.

Isuzu must be the only company that didn’t “pay for play.”

I think the Malibu is the most interesting of the three at this point. America likes boring, though, so that’s what Honda and Toyota give us now. I’ve had three different generations of the Accord (’85, ‘88, and ‘90, all 5 speed) and can safely say I thought the Accord stopped being the Accord with the bulbous last generation model, which was basically a Honda Camry. Too big, too bland, no pretense of sportiness. The Accord was always a little smaller and sportier than the Camry but I guess Honda got tired of getting beat every year so they copied the thing. I just got my first good look at the new one and couldn’t believe how big it is. The TSX is the “real” Accord, in my opinion.

Accord did move up the scale. The truth is: everybodys car did. I had ‘88 Accord and I believe that current Civic is bigger (at least inside) then ‘88 Accord. Every Accord you could get with 5 speed manual, Camry only low end strippers. In last years there was unnatural “oversizing” in auto industry. Can you compare Camry of ‘89 and todays whale? Accord officially “large” car just like Impala, Malibu is actually a smaller car. I agree that European Accord (TSX Accura) will assume place occupied by “American” Accord. Actually American Accord was shown everywhere else in the world (for the first time) as a different model, I don’t recall the name. Honda does not have midsize car in US lineup.

No Honda and Toyota didn’t pay for **** bc in reliable magazines and website used in courts of law Honda and Toyota always come out on top
JD is unreliable and cant be trusted just like jimjack turkey
The Accord still is classified as large but its a mid size car. I sat in one and its larger in the back and trunk but the legroom up front is slightly larger but not that much larger than the last one
Its looks great even without the leather interior

Hey 1115, you always demand proof as if you can even comprehend proof and not dismiss everything that flies in the face of your automotive ineptitude. Now you claim GM paid JD Powers and Toyota/Honda did not pay.

Prove it, pussy boy, provide a link. Prove it tonight after midnight when you get off the night shift at Burger King, you retard —-> http://aaronsworldflash.tripod.com/id10.html

lol Burger King retard is the best you can come up with ?
Dont be mad bc GM sucks and have been ripping off the american public for the last 25 years and counting
Buy Japanese and that may curb your anger

So you can’t provide proof to your claim that JD is paid by GM and not Toyota/Honda?

Your inability to do so is not surprising in the least.
And no, 1115, I don’t want an apple pie wit dat.

Iv’e been impressed with GM here latly. They seem to have their game faces on and ready to give the japs a run for their money.

Shady Poweres is a pay for play site which means that they cant be trusted at all

Honda and Toyota dont have to pay for play bc they actually build reliable cars. Its more likely that GM will have to bc they build crap
Like I said the I look fwd to driving the Malibu when I rent a car next

Tripleonefive….the last three cars i have rented from enterprise were as follows….Honda accord, toyota camry, and a nissan maxima. Whats that about??? The maxima was fun to say the least.

Challenges faced by GM:

1) They built low-quality vehicles in the recent past, and people like myself were deceived and got screwed by owning one. Good luck getting those potential customers back. I won’t be one of them.

2) Younger generation buyers go straight for Japanese and German vehicles. Neon SRT and Cobalt SS are the only ones popular in the young crowd…and because carmakers like VW, Audi, BMW, Benz, Toyota, Lexus, Nissan, Infiniti, Honda and Acura have made good quality vehicles in the past, buying one of these pre-owned or new will come before virtually any GM or Ford.

Yes, there are exceptions to this. Does anyone else see this shift?

Even if GM (in particular) could build a BMW or Benz quality vehicle, and make it in the US, and sell it for a reasonable price, and have a solid resale value, I would still refuse to buy a shread of linen from the company that manufactured a car with exponential problems at 52,000 miles and left me stranded on more than once and more than twice.

Remember, a customer is worth 20x more than their initial purchase.

Sorry GM. You lost your chance.

1115- Got any proof about J.D Powers being pay for play? My patience runs thin. You’ve been proven wrong many times.

sd650irag- The Ford Focus and Chevrolet SSR are also popular with the younger crowd. The newest lineup of Toyota’s aren’t so much, the Celica being the last real youth oriented, tuner model. Of course, now they have Scion for the “X generation”. Same goes for Honda and somewhat Nissan.

Oh yeah, and SD650irag- What’d you get screwed on so bad?

GM has made much progress that many people are noticing. Any new vehicle that GM makes is built very well and is very attractive. I would rather see GM not sell as many cars and build with Quality like they are than have them mass produce and sell a lot of crap. GM has come a long way in 5 years and people are noticing. The new CTS is not just a world competitor its a world beater. The malibu is great looking as well as built good. They new chevys are build good with good American design. People should be proud that that is built here. Instead you have this import loves that don’t know much about cars that just say what they hear. Many imports have problems too there not perfect. But it say it sucks because its American just makes you ignorant.

sd650….I’m sure your not hurting a muti billion dollar company’s business by not buying their vehicles….They will just find someone else to sell too.

If you had been around earlier in this argument you would have seen the proof.
Im not going to cite proof for every newbie with something to say on here
Look it up

Spent some of the afternoon at a Dealer looking at the LT2, very well equiped, V-6, black Bu and a short test drive – this car is a game changer for GM. And no – I don’t mean it will sell the same numbers as camry and accord out of the chute. I mean IT is the way they will get there. And I think this car is one that women AND men will enjoy.

droppendgmc02:
don’t worry – 1115 tends to have wet dreams about all newbies but can’t figure out where you live. And coudn’t drive there anyway.

jjc08- sitting on the side of the freeway –> repair bills, time, money.

and it’s not about me hurting GM buy not buying there cars, it’s about not supporting their philosophy of business. when competition became stiff, they closed plants and suppliers in the US, costing thousands of American jobs, sacrificing build quality trying to sustain their market share while making larger profits. If you buy many GM products, you are raising your hand saying “Yes, I support this!” While GM moves, erghhmm, south of the border…BMW, MB, Toyota, Honda and Nissan have made huge long-term investments to employ Americans to build what tend to be higher-quality vehicles. not trying to come across the wrong way, but would you continuously go to a restaurant that gave you sh!tty service food that was cold?

I am not brand loyal to one particular carmaker, but i own two non-GM vehicles with a combined 350,000 miles and all i do is put gas in it and go.

^^^ wow, i need to go to sleep… buy=by there=their

i have portrayed GM mentality by cutting corners and not proofreading

SD650irag- Don’t care about spelling. The only people who should pick on others spelling are the ones who can’t make an argument.

More or less, I was wondering what car you bought. I know to stay away from small American cars and large Japanese ones. My experience has been good on the other hand with American cars, and neutral with Japanese (older Subaru to be more specific). What cars do you own now?

The way I see it though, your holding a lot of anger against GM. I don’t blame you, but just because they had made bad cars, and now are making good ones doesn’t mean you shouldn’t buy one. Your not supporting the old GM any longer, your supporting a completely revamped management teams, design teams, employees, unions, trade deals and technology.

tripleonefive- There are no recalls on this page. The ONLY time you have ever cited links is from one single recall site, nothing more.

Why do you guys even bother test driving large family sedans unless you’re in the market for one, or can only afford such? Worse yet, arguing which one is better. Are you guys true “enthusiasts”?

jayjc08- you guessed it, it was pontiac sunfire and my first car. although an entry level vehicle, build quality was very inferior over time. i know times were rough–when the going gets tough, the tough get going–and GM definitely didn’t. i certainly agree GM seems to at least be headed in the right direction now, cars appear to be somewhat better built and better looking than before. let’s not sterotype, but i’d love a new escalade or tahoe but there’s a once upon a time story that i won’t soon forget. and i think part of my bitterness toward GM also comes from having a couple family members who lost their jobs by GMs greedy ways. anyways, so i sold the sunfire and bought a car 10 years to its elder…

1987 BMW 325 192,000 miles
2000 BMW 323Ci 159,000 miles

on-deck:
2000-02 CLK430 Cabriolet
2004-05 BMW 645Ci Convertible

my mother had a 93 Accord SE that was a very superior value car for its first 7-8 years, but began aging quickly after about 140,000 miles. overall it was a great car for her, but saw several brutal winters…that infamous area behind the back wheel began rusting through the clear-coat after it’s 6th or 7th birthday.

Kaizen: “The only way I can see GM becoming competitive with Toyota or Honda again is if they maintain/and build upon this level of products for the next 10 years.”

If by “becoming competitive,” you mean selling as many units, you’re probably right

R-Head: I think the new Accord sedan looks better than the coupe. And according to your data, it seems reasonable that Honda, despite what the Fluffer thinks is losing customers to GM.

Jjayc: “People are beginning to ignore you, you had better come up with a new name… fast!”
I think you’ve got it. The Fluffer thrives on attention. If it has a point, I will acknowledge that. I will simply let the great Nas speak for me in answering its insults.

RicardoHead: I don’t trust John David Power,but it does make sense to why the ones who “didn’t pay,” get the same grades as those who did. Not the way the New Jersey Garbage business works, and I’m pretty sure not the way John David Power works. Another possibility: Honda and Toyota have been paying for years, and now GM sees the benefit of paying Somehow,I doubt that as well.

Rsg “The TSX is the ‘real’ Accord, in my opinion.”
Good call.

Autonut: Yeah, the Civic is the size of the old accord. Honda has figured out that people don’t want Civic-sized civics. Of course,now the Fit has taken the Civic’s old spot, and I think that’s Honda’s best car. If the civic was the size of the old civic, and had the same amenities, but a Fit engine, it’d produce MPG to make a Prius cry!

Droppedgmc02: You’re a liar! Rental companies must get behind retail customers,who often beg to pay double MSRP for an accord. Or maybe, it rents for $888 a day, $999 with “Nav.”

I do like the Maxima.

Sd650: politics aside,you’re on the ball. Some people buy something, it doesn’t work, and he writes that company off forever. Some come back only after solid evidence that the company has changed its ways, others never come back.
The fact that you had a Sunfire indicates a wasted opportunity. If your sunfire was as good as my Cavalier, you may not have always bought GM,but when shopping, you’d have considered its models.

“Even if GM could build a BMW or Benz quality vehicle, and make it in the US, and sell it for a reasonable price, and have a solid resale value, I would still refuse to buy a shread of linen from the company ….”

Your loss.

Jayjc: The The Ford Focus (and twin, Mazda3) are the only “Generation Y (not ‘X’)” cars that interest me. I thought my Celica was the worst piece of excrement ever on wheels, … until I owned a Honda. But I think Scion has been well-executed, and the company has of late given me reason to rethink my “Never buying another Toyota again” position.
Then came this year’s bad news.

Gmc02: “to say it sucks because its American just makes you ignorant.” At least it strongly suggests that.

Sd650: Don’t get into corporate politics,because they all do immoral stuff.
What do you support if you buy a Toyota or a Maybach?

Jayjc08: and as I recall, Commodore went the the Fluffer’s recall site and found a boatload of Honda recalls. They don’t count of course.

Veda: “Why do you guys even bother test driving large family sedans.”
Speaking for myself, I get paid to.

6d650: If you’re driving a BMW, you have a better car than probably any of us.

turkey– “The fact that you had a Sunfire indicates a wasted opportunity…” I respect what you are saying, however, if particular carmakers could understand the whole picture and use an entry-level car as an opportunity, an opportunity to reel in a customer for life. If a car wears a badge it is a representation of the manufacturer its entire life. So, if GM is indeed building better cars today, it will take 10-15 years to change the mentality of prospective buyers.

If it were my company, I would want the quality of cars to be consistent across the board regardless of where they are in the line-up. I am not naive, and realize it’s much easier to say this and there is much more to being competitive and successful simultaneously in this (and any) industry.

I will spin the tables on you and say look at Mercedes new TV spot for the new C-class… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78hDOqnK1gA “…because we promised you a Mercedes-Benz”. Yes, it costs more than an market entry Pontiac, but I tend to side with a company that stands behind a committment. Bottom line, there are a million different cars on the market for a reason, because not everyone wants the same car.

SD650irag- I had the feelings it would be along the line of a compact vehicle. Aside from the Ford Focus and a few other’s, I wouldn’t even consider a compact car.

I know, most people would next bring up “why can’t they build a good compact car”? The same goes for trucks and large cars with Japanese and German auto manufacturers.

Despite being an entry level car, I think part of the reason it was so horrid was the price. Paying only around $10,000 or so when it came out, I think it was the least expensive car on the market. I’ve always liked the updated generations looks though, something about it… Reminds me of a Mitsubishi FTO

Veda- Not all of us drive Porsche’s or Vettes.

Jackjim- Yes, we all went on that recall site and found misc. recalls from Toyota and Honda. I’m still waiting for 1115 to respond to my last comment.

SD, cutting cost to stay afloat isn’t “greedy.” Greed is when CEO stock options range in the tens of millions.

Where is the evidence that GM is building better cars? A coupe of imported European cars and one from Australia ?

I love when I hear you dolts say that. GM hasn’t proven anything.. In 10 years if the Malibu and Aura are still running have little to no issues and they have a high resale (equal to the Japanese) and there isn’t a better Japanese product out there (which there will be most likely) then GM can be though of in the same class as Honda or Toyota.

I was driving today and saw a white Camry and realized how great it looked. I still like the Accord better but the point is the Malibu and Aura truly have nothing on the Camry or Accord.

The Malibu better start with the Galant, Fusion, Sebring and after that the Mazda 6 and Sonata

Wow, you have surprised me once again. I can honestly say unlike you, I don’t need to cite posts, they’ve already been cited on this page.

Nooooob.

And you know what? I think the Camry looks great, but at certain angles, it looks hideous and bloated. I’ve seen one Malibu at a nearby campus, and it looked REALLY great, from every angle besides two/thirds rear, which the tail lights are a little odd looking, but it gives it a unique look that I like.
And believe it or not, the Galant is really nice also. I love the Fusions looks, but I think they messed up in a few places, making it look too carved, and the interior is boring. I’ll wait for the replacement or evolution of the Fusion, which I’m very much so looking forward to seeing.

Oh yes…. the Malibu’s interior makes the Camry’s and Accord look like feces.

1115; Will soon be term synonomous with/for annoying wife with no point.

The Malibu is a great product to help Chevrolet/GM get back into the mainstream midsize sedan game. The major item I wish they would fix is the four cylinder/four speed auto trans combination. Most of the competition in this segment offer a 5 speed automatic. I know the six speed auto is supposed to be offered with the 4 cylinder in the spring on the LTZ trim level. Hopefully it will filter down to the rest of the 4 cylinder trim levels. Other than this item, I think the new Malibu is more than competitive in the midsize sedan market.

As far as the hybrid version, I am not sure it is worth paying a premium (over the regular 4 cylinder) to get such a minute gain in mileage or power.

Good quote: “Now I like me some Hondas…and you can’t really HATE Toyota…but their greatest strengths are things that would be strengths in ANY product.

Consumer Reports likes Honda and Toyota because if Honda and Toyota were making refrigerators they’d be the best damn refrigerators in the world. They’d be trouble-free, energy efficient, and they’d keep your food cool. They’d do all these things better than everyone else’s refrigerators, and that is all CR cares about.

That’s CR’s bias.”

sd650: yeah, I like those ” .. we promised you a mercedes-benz” spots.

C6Racer: “I’d much rather be caught driving a YUGO before being found dead in an Accord.”
Me, too, and vice-versa.

jayjc08: I think the camry is hideous, and the Malibu looks like a concept car.

kosai03: I like me some Hondas, too. The GL and its ilk.

^ JJT those commercials are lies, they should be saying that WHILE handing the keys to the mechanic for the 10th time this year.

CTS: I prefer BMWs, anyway

Yay BMW!

LOL that proves that Jimmy jack is a fool along with the C6My roof just flew off racer
A yugo lol

1115: No, that proves that jackjim would rather be alive than dead. Can you read?

So… where’s that proof, tripleonefive?