First of all… you were the one who brought up the Grand National (you also seem to have no short-term memory of what you say… just like others as well!) So you want to compare “apples to apples?” Let’s…

You’re either a grade-A retard who doesn’t know jack-squat about cars OR you’re cherry-picking your information because you seem to have only pulled stats for the base Regal… For 1996… the “performance” Regal offered the 3.8L not the 3.1.. which at that time put out 205hp and 230lb-ft of torque – FAR less of a gap than what you claimed.. more like 30hp and the same amount of torque… and we’re also forgetting that the ’96 Regal also weighed less than the ’96 Taurus.

If you’d like to further compare your similar fruits… the Taurus SHO continued on until ’99 – with the same power output – 235hp and 230lb-ft of torque. Again… if you knew anything about this subject (which you should, since I’ve already told you), you would know that the ’97-’99 Regal GS pumped out 240hp and 280lb-ft of torque.

Don’t you see… when you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about but continue to talk, it leaves you looking like a flaming idiot… although I have to admit, you get a gold star for pulling a 1115 and only picking out very specific information which makes it look like you’re right.

By all means.. keep trolling – I’ve put trolls before you in their place and I’ll gladly continue doing the same with you!

1996 Buick Regal Performance
- 3,130 cc 3.1 liters 6 V front transverse engine with 89 mm bore, 84 mm stroke, 9.6 compression ratio, overhead valve and two valves per cylinder
- Unleaded fuel
- Fuel economy EPA highway (l/100km): 8.1
- Multi-point injection fuel system
- Main 65 liter fuel tank
- Power: 119 kW , 160 HP @ 5,200 rpm; 185 ft lb @ 4,000 rpm

Kind-a-looks like your car is outgunned by about 75HP and if memory serve correct the engine although rated at 235HP was tested to approximately 400HP. You got me Kemosabe!

Now many are expecting the Taurus SHO will return. I think it was pretty clear the Taurus will get a TWIN FORCE Engine. and they have been rated anywhere from 340 HP to 420 HP- you think your Lucerne could handle that. I doubt it, and oh yeah there is no longer a Buick Regal- their lineup is desimated. Oh yeah for run over to Pontiac to get that Antiquated G8 that no one will touch once gas prices hit $5 a gallon!

Where did I mention the Grand National and especially a Skylark (hello???)… I didn’t even mention the Grand National because that would have been entirely too easy of an argument because by their last year of production (’87), the normal GN was putting out 245hp and 355lb-ft… it would run to 60 in under 5.5 seconds and would hit the 1/4mile in 14.2 seconds stock from the factory. That’s not even mentioning the it’s big “hurrah” – the GNX version… which put out 276hp and 360lb-ft running naught to 60 in under 5 seconds and a standing 1/4 in 13.4 seconds. Those “lowly” Buicks were tearing up Corvettes of that time and especially Mustangs (which was a big reason they dropped it because the Chevy guys weren’t too happy with that fact) and you’re honestly going to make some ridiculous claim that a Taurus of that time would have it? You’re either completely off your rocker, blinded by your own bias, or another troll.

So we have all that power in a package that weight 3365lbs. The lightest the SHO ever weighed in at was 3300lbs (in ’89), by ’90 it jumped to 3380, ’92-95 (w/manual) 3425lbs, ’93-’95 (w/auto) 3600lbs and it’s last redesign brought down (to a still portly) 3500lbs. The ’89-’91 SHO has 220hp/200lb-ft, ’92-95 made 220/215… and what was the power when they finally put the mighty V8 in it? A whopping 235HP and 230lb-ft of torque.

By contrast, I was referring to the ’97-’04 Buick Regal GS, of which I had a final run ’04 model. It weighed in at a similar 3500lbs but its S/C V6 put out 240hp and 280lb-ft of torque (all at low rpms) and would run to 60 in 6.5 seconds or less. Again… I’m not quite sure where the blind reverence of the SHO comes from.

There’s nothing wrong with being a Ford fanboy… and just because you make blindly ignorant statements merely puts you on par with some others on this board. You’re also a fan of the SHO – we get that… but don’t let your fanboy-ness cause you to come on here and make plainly foolish statements when you don’t have reality to back them up… Got that cowboy?

MO you again. Have’nt you taken enough ABUSE with all the Lies you spread about other cars you never even drove. I’ve at least driven a Corvette have you!
Oh I can’t believe you said in public that a Camaro will take a Mustang.

Ok for argument sake. You wanna then race your 2008 Chevy Camaro with my 2008 Mustang GT…Ummm let me see oh that right ..Chevrolet did’nt make one, how about the year before that punk, oh they did’nt have one then either. How many years you wanna go back. You see my point you have NONE. I Rest my case. Case Closed Chevy Sucks!Its like maybe a decade ago since the last SB Camaro came out and was instantly always in the repair shop for blow engines and faulty transmissions. Driven practically off dealers lots and to the repair shop.

Oh and at the level of HP were talking a 640 HP Super Vette will not own the stock Mustang GT500 @ 500 HP ok Boy!

So once again your smoked! It shows you how much you know absolutely Nothing hahahaha. Oh and as for the GT-R look up the history on the GT-R you dummy it is race proven ok. ANd it has over 1,100 Horses ! FACT. Not some fairy tale your use to reading on corvettes! Something the Cowpoked engineered slapped sledgehammer POS never did. The thing probably ran a couple of times and leginfelter never told anyone the thing was leaking oil out of its main bearings so bad he scrapped it he was so ashamed. I be willing to bet that Cowpattie engineered Corvette would cough and drop dead after the first 5 minutes in a duel with a GT-R leaving the Corvette Tailpipe, Engine, Trans, and Tongue dragged, scattered all over the pavement, and left in a little garbage heap. The Mustang would so the same thing to it as well courtesy of Shelby @ 750 HP.

I also know some people love to talk shit with their SHOs… but it’s a shame the none of them could ever touch even my old Regal GS… So keep talking shit with your tiny little Yamaha engine… mm’kay?

You’re all nothing but fools… ignorant fools with a misplaced sense of patriotism… if you were smart you’d buy a GT-R or even an Altima because it’s better looking, more reliable, and will have a higher resale value.

The GT-R offers a composed ride, and I think the ZR1 will be an OMG-WTF thrill machine. I’d rather have both.

Yes, a jet is faster than any car. But what is the Hondajet’s laptime?

I wonder if these HP/torque numbers are taken from the crank or directly from the rear wheels…if it’s the latter, it’s one hell of an accomplishment.

LOL. Except they begin to fall apart after 100mph.

Bears repeating. GT-R may be fast, but it doesn’t matter because it’s still a Nissan POS.

The final conclusion is that Nissan’s power figures are an accurate representation of the GT-Rs might, and as brilliant as the new twin-turbo V6 is equal credit must be given to the car’s new launch control system, dual-clutch gearbox and ATTESA-ETS AWD system as these are what help give the car its mystifying track times. ” Corvette sucks

And despite all those who walk with the ‘death of the automobile’ dark cloud hanging over their heads, don’t look for machines like the ZR1 to disappear off the face of the earth anytime too soon. Fossil fuel supplies may be dwindling but people with money will always be around.

Really nice cars to be sure, and I like them, but I would still take a Z06/GTR over a ZR1/V-Spec, based on value. Prices on these “uber” versions seem to be inflated. But then again, I don’t care about exclusivity either, just stellar performance for a great price.