Smart… regardless of the shift away from light trucks, people still need them for work, etc. and the things trucks were always designed to do and diesel is an appropriate alternative.

A $6000 premium over a gas engine and $5 a gallon Diesel, horrible idea.

coold make ¢ if th mpg is rite

I think Chevy trucks are definately reliable, there body style ia horrible though, in desperate need of a face lift.

Pricing for this option royally sucks, but the need is still there for this size truck by those who depend upon these vehicles for their livelihood.

I can’t believe this is news, or that someone has to actually “spy” on this thing. Just go to the GM dealership and ask, “What’s going to change on the new trucks” and don’t bother “spying” on something this uninteresting.

well Im sure this thing will offer better MPG and overall performance then a gas powered 1500 I can’t help but think the premium for the diesal over the gas could turn off a lot of people

Many men have waited many years for this. This will be a legendary motor.

I think you hit the nail on the head 400horseSS… pay more for the motor… pay more for the fuel… don’t really get any significant advantages in hp or tq. Why bother?

Despite its financial problems, GM continues to lead the way for the big 3. Although, as far as diesel engines are concerned, I don’t know what to think. I’ve read plenty of articles talking about how diesels would be the engines of the future for the U.S., but as stated, look at the prices. I don’t understand the inner workings of the oil companies, nor do I know what actually makes prices climb, but it seems more than a bit shady. They seem quite content having everyone by the balls and I’m sure they’ll dig their heels in the ground anyway they can to halt the advancement of technologies that might turn people away from their precious resource.

Where did the $6000 figure come from? I doubt it’ll be that much, more like $2000, which is still pretty high. Diesel will come down eventually too, I’ll wager.

1. I could not find reference to $6000 premium in this article. Granted, the diesel will cost more, but probably not that much more. The engine is definitely needed for a truck, since major advantage here torque not horsepower. If this is working truck, it is not build for racing, but for hauling staff. In addition it will be 25-40% more economical then comparable gasoline engine with about the same torque.
2. I doubt that GM is leading in anything right now. The project probably was done in some engineers’ garage, since Wagoner was dead against diesels just few short years ago. Now “brains” of the company jumping on underlings idea.

id buy this in a heartbeat if the incentives matched the gas trucks haha

I know lots of guys who were screaming for a half ton diesel ages ago. As usual Detroit’s missed the boat by about 5 years, but this class of diesel should still find a lot of takers. Although if I was in this market, I’d probably cool my heels a little longer until the inevitable bugs are worked out.

The problem lies not only with the added cost of the diesel up front and the added 10% cost of fuel, but with the aftertreatment and particulate controls that now come with these diesels.

In Canada and in particular Alberta, trucks deal with slow rough roads as well as frigid temps that interfere with the emissions systems ability to de-soot. This is causing major issues and is pushing companies and people away from diesel engines in droves.

It will NOT cost $6,000 more for the diesel option. People keep assuming it will because that is the diesel option price for the current 2500HD with the 6.6 Duramax and Allison transmission. The flaw in this assumption is the 4.5L diesel will NOT be using the expensive Allison transmission, and instead will be using GM’s own 6L90E. That’s about $3,000 savings right there. Plus, GM has said all along that they will be focusing on keeping production costs of this engine to a minimum, and the fewer parts needed is just one example.

I’m willing to bet the diesel option will not cost more than $2k to $3k.

Mercedes is offering their BlueTec diesels for $1k more.

There goes HRR again with his BS. Guys like me are very excited over this news, dimwit.

shoptime, but what engine can you use in those conditions? When it’s cold it sucks for all engines. Catalytic converter on a car does not work when its cold as well either. And if it is desolate area, who cares if sooth will come out of the pipe while truck is cold? It is heavy and will fall down to earth. It is less laden with CO2 as gasoline exhaust that harms ozone layer.

johnnycanuck, u r correct again!

Well I guess it doesn’t take much to excite guys like C6Racer. Have fun paying $5 a gallon for diesel in a useless truck.

xyunya, why don’t you just ask johnny is you can blow him already. You sound like you got a thing going for him.

^^^ Jealous and lonely sailor? Your momma will take of you since finding a woman is impossible in your condition. I admire his sense of humor and analytical mind, something which you weren’t blessed with.

I always wanted a diesel but the 2500 is too beefy in the susp and rides like hell! 1500 diesel would have been perfect 5 years ago. People that tow boats to the lake do not need a damn 2500. Regular boats not yachts! They arent hauling tractors!

Im just going by the diesel engines we put in our vasn and they have a 5-6k premium over gas, Im just a line worker so I dont know ****.

WTF is up with the censorship LLN.

Obviously Z06 hasnt seen diesel engine prices, I see over 800 trucks a day.

HAHAHA, useless? Speak for yourself pal.

EGGcellent! Now bring that God damned Diesel engine over to your SUV’s, GM, where it’s desperately needed!

540lb.ft in a half tonne is useless? Yeah, alright buddy. Sorry we couldn’t have another story about your ugly Dodge Rams that can’t deliver on fuel economy improvements, which is what they promised and what they need. Hey, at least they’ve got gas cards, right.

1c3d0g, you just made me think of something. Would a 4.5L Dmax Tahoe be more economical than the Tahoe Hybrid? I bet it would, and the savings on the initial premium would be more than enough to outweigh the cost of Diesel.

Diesel costs less in investment and energy to make than gasoline. Any reason why it’s more expensive? Yes. The vast majority of North American vehicles uses the latter. If there were more diesels, our refineries would start making more and the costs would likely drop in short order.

Just get a Ford

“Obviously Z06 hasnt seen diesel engine prices, I see over 800 trucks a day.

Comment by 400horseSS, posted on July9 at 6:50 pm ”

Obviously you don’t know what you’re talking about. I OWN a diesel now - a ‘99 Suburban. I know how much the engines cost.

Go piss your money away on the same lame trucks that never seem to get any better. When did I come on here and brag about the Dodge Rams? I don’t give a $H!T about trucks, I have a 1953 Power Wagon for tearing $H!T up, and an ‘85 1/2 ton 2WD I restored with a 400 SBC, 400 Turbo, 12 Bolt posi with over 400 HP, I don’t need another truck to haul my @$$ around.

Then don’t read the truck articles. Pretty simple solution, don’t you think?

^^^ Just mind your own business. Or don’t worry about my comments. Pretty simple solution, don’t you think?

The premium over gas will be as much as GM thinks they can get away with. Be that as it may, the design of the engine with the transposed intake and exhaust manifolds will be interesting.

“Obviously Z06 hasnt seen diesel engine prices, I see over 800 trucks a day.

Comment by 400horseSS, posted on July9 at 6:50 pm ”

Obviously you don’t know what you’re talking about. I OWN a diesel now - a ‘99 Suburban. I know how much the engines cost.

Comment by Z06ified, posted on July10 at 9………Good for you but its 2008 and prices have risen alot, and there is a 6k premium on diesel and it wont sell worth a ****.

^^^^ You can’t talk sense to a bunch of ****ing idiots. When they would rather buy **** from a foreign company and not support their OWN, something is ****ed up in their heads.