Comments on: 2010 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 diesel [Spied]

By: muderxtreme

muderxtreme — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:01:45 +0000

hemi – your a bitch, shut the hell up and get a life. I currently own a 94 chevrolet half-ton diesel, and its great. the only problem i can see with more diesels on the road is that the common car buyer doesnt maintain their cars anywhere near needed as it is. ergo, diesels need filters changed and lots of maintinence, and thats the old ones. what about the new system where you have to put catalyst spray in every 2-3 tanks of diesel. how many people are going to go for that? diesel engines are great and very effecient IF maintained, but when you abuse them and do not perform proper maintinence, you can have some pretty expensive problems. i just did a $4k motor swap on my ford 7.3l because the previous owner didnt maintain the air intake system. simply put, diesels in more vehicles is a great idea if you can get the buyers to perform scheduled maintinence. and the half ton diesel truck is a winner in my book, 300k miles strong and still going.

By: HemiRoadRunner

HemiRoadRunner — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:55:58 +0000

^^^^ You can’t talk sense to a bunch of ****ing idiots. When they would rather buy **** from a foreign company and not support their OWN, something is ****ed up in their heads.

By: 400horseSS

400horseSS — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:54:31 +0000

“Obviously Z06 hasnt seen diesel engine prices, I see over 800 trucks a day.

Comment by 400horseSS, posted on July9 at 6:50 pm ”

Obviously you don’t know what you’re talking about. I OWN a diesel now – a ‘99 Suburban. I know how much the engines cost.

Comment by Z06ified, posted on July10 at 9………Good for you but its 2008 and prices have risen alot, and there is a 6k premium on diesel and it wont sell worth a ****.

By: The Stig

The Stig — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:37:33 +0000

The premium over gas will be as much as GM thinks they can get away with. Be that as it may, the design of the engine with the transposed intake and exhaust manifolds will be interesting.

By: HemiRoadRunner

HemiRoadRunner — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:24:38 +0000

^^^ Just mind your own business. Or don’t worry about my comments. Pretty simple solution, don’t you think?

By: oldraven

oldraven — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:17:36 +0000

Then don’t read the truck articles. Pretty simple solution, don’t you think?

By: HemiRoadRunner

HemiRoadRunner — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:05:06 +0000

Go piss your money away on the same lame trucks that never seem to get any better. When did I come on here and brag about the Dodge Rams? I don’t give a $H!T about trucks, I have a 1953 Power Wagon for tearing $H!T up, and an ‘85 1/2 ton 2WD I restored with a 400 SBC, 400 Turbo, 12 Bolt posi with over 400 HP, I don’t need another truck to haul my @$$ around.

By: Z06ified

Z06ified — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 13:30:57 +0000

“Obviously Z06 hasnt seen diesel engine prices, I see over 800 trucks a day.

Comment by 400horseSS, posted on July9 at 6:50 pm ”

Obviously you don’t know what you’re talking about. I OWN a diesel now – a ‘99 Suburban. I know how much the engines cost.

By: beantownslut

beantownslut — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 12:50:36 +0000

Just get a Ford

By: oldraven

oldraven — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 12:42:10 +0000

1c3d0g, you just made me think of something. Would a 4.5L Dmax Tahoe be more economical than the Tahoe Hybrid? I bet it would, and the savings on the initial premium would be more than enough to outweigh the cost of Diesel.

Diesel costs less in investment and energy to make than gasoline. Any reason why it’s more expensive? Yes. The vast majority of North American vehicles uses the latter. If there were more diesels, our refineries would start making more and the costs would likely drop in short order.

By: oldraven

oldraven — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 12:37:32 +0000

540lb.ft in a half tonne is useless? Yeah, alright buddy. Sorry we couldn’t have another story about your ugly Dodge Rams that can’t deliver on fuel economy improvements, which is what they promised and what they need. Hey, at least they’ve got gas cards, right.

By: 1c3d0g

1c3d0g — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 05:40:54 +0000

EGGcellent! Now bring that God damned Diesel engine over to your SUV’s, GM, where it’s desperately needed!

By: C6Racer

C6Racer — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 22:54:25 +0000

HAHAHA, useless? Speak for yourself pal.

By: 400horseSS

400horseSS — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 22:50:49 +0000

Obviously Z06 hasnt seen diesel engine prices, I see over 800 trucks a day.

By: 400horseSS

400horseSS — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 22:49:35 +0000

WTF is up with the censorship LLN.

By: 400horseSS

400horseSS — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 22:48:41 +0000

Im just going by the diesel engines we put in our vasn and they have a 5-6k premium over gas, Im just a line worker so I dont know ****.

By: RotaxKart

RotaxKart — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 21:29:39 +0000

I always wanted a diesel but the 2500 is too beefy in the susp and rides like hell! 1500 diesel would have been perfect 5 years ago. People that tow boats to the lake do not need a damn 2500. Regular boats not yachts! They arent hauling tractors!

By: xyunya

xyunya — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:33:11 +0000

^^^ Jealous and lonely sailor? Your momma will take of you since finding a woman is impossible in your condition. I admire his sense of humor and analytical mind, something which you weren’t blessed with.

By: HemiRoadRunner

HemiRoadRunner — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:21:46 +0000

xyunya, why don’t you just ask johnny is you can blow him already. You sound like you got a thing going for him.

By: HemiRoadRunner

HemiRoadRunner — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:20:57 +0000

Well I guess it doesn’t take much to excite guys like C6Racer. Have fun paying $5 a gallon for diesel in a useless truck.

By: xyunya

xyunya — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:19:45 +0000

johnnycanuck, u r correct again!

By: xyunya

xyunya — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:19:22 +0000

shoptime, but what engine can you use in those conditions? When it’s cold it sucks for all engines. Catalytic converter on a car does not work when its cold as well either. And if it is desolate area, who cares if sooth will come out of the pipe while truck is cold? It is heavy and will fall down to earth. It is less laden with CO2 as gasoline exhaust that harms ozone layer.

By: C6Racer

C6Racer — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:14:10 +0000

There goes HRR again with his BS. Guys like me are very excited over this news, dimwit.

By: Z06ified

Z06ified — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:11:35 +0000

It will NOT cost $6,000 more for the diesel option. People keep assuming it will because that is the diesel option price for the current 2500HD with the 6.6 Duramax and Allison transmission. The flaw in this assumption is the 4.5L diesel will NOT be using the expensive Allison transmission, and instead will be using GM’s own 6L90E. That’s about $3,000 savings right there. Plus, GM has said all along that they will be focusing on keeping production costs of this engine to a minimum, and the fewer parts needed is just one example.

I’m willing to bet the diesel option will not cost more than $2k to $3k.

Mercedes is offering their BlueTec diesels for $1k more.

By: shoptime

shoptime — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:06:44 +0000

The problem lies not only with the added cost of the diesel up front and the added 10% cost of fuel, but with the aftertreatment and particulate controls that now come with these diesels.

In Canada and in particular Alberta, trucks deal with slow rough roads as well as frigid temps that interfere with the emissions systems ability to de-soot. This is causing major issues and is pushing companies and people away from diesel engines in droves.

By: johnnycanuck

johnnycanuck — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:05:55 +0000

I know lots of guys who were screaming for a half ton diesel ages ago. As usual Detroit’s missed the boat by about 5 years, but this class of diesel should still find a lot of takers. Although if I was in this market, I’d probably cool my heels a little longer until the inevitable bugs are worked out.

By: A4

A4 — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:09:15 +0000

id buy this in a heartbeat if the incentives matched the gas trucks haha

By: xyunya

xyunya — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 17:57:06 +0000

1. I could not find reference to $6000 premium in this article. Granted, the diesel will cost more, but probably not that much more. The engine is definitely needed for a truck, since major advantage here torque not horsepower. If this is working truck, it is not build for racing, but for hauling staff. In addition it will be 25-40% more economical then comparable gasoline engine with about the same torque.
2. I doubt that GM is leading in anything right now. The project probably was done in some engineers’ garage, since Wagoner was dead against diesels just few short years ago. Now “brains” of the company jumping on underlings idea.

By: golf4me

golf4me — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 17:48:28 +0000

Where did the $6000 figure come from? I doubt it’ll be that much, more like $2000, which is still pretty high. Diesel will come down eventually too, I’ll wager.

By: hateful83

hateful83 — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 17:43:08 +0000

Despite its financial problems, GM continues to lead the way for the big 3. Although, as far as diesel engines are concerned, I don’t know what to think. I’ve read plenty of articles talking about how diesels would be the engines of the future for the U.S., but as stated, look at the prices. I don’t understand the inner workings of the oil companies, nor do I know what actually makes prices climb, but it seems more than a bit shady. They seem quite content having everyone by the balls and I’m sure they’ll dig their heels in the ground anyway they can to halt the advancement of technologies that might turn people away from their precious resource.

By: RaineMan

RaineMan — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 17:03:01 +0000

I think you hit the nail on the head 400horseSS… pay more for the motor… pay more for the fuel… don’t really get any significant advantages in hp or tq. Why bother?

By: shaver

shaver — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 16:55:29 +0000

Many men have waited many years for this. This will be a legendary motor.

By: Fromes

Fromes — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 16:47:19 +0000

well Im sure this thing will offer better MPG and overall performance then a gas powered 1500 I can’t help but think the premium for the diesal over the gas could turn off a lot of people

By: HemiRoadRunner

HemiRoadRunner — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 16:35:56 +0000

I can’t believe this is news, or that someone has to actually “spy” on this thing. Just go to the GM dealership and ask, “What’s going to change on the new trucks” and don’t bother “spying” on something this uninteresting.

By: F451

F451 — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 16:35:31 +0000

Pricing for this option royally sucks, but the need is still there for this size truck by those who depend upon these vehicles for their livelihood.