China is ten times worse than these studies estimate. Do you think a country as large, closed off, and communist as China reports honestly on these matters? If you’re wondering how to measure it, just look no further than the Chi Com’s friends to the North. Click here for the top ten most polluted cities on the planet. Notice a coloration? For those of you educated in public schools, over half are located in a communist country and the other half might as well be, considering they’re dictatorships.

They meant to say China passes NY and California.

I demand a recount!
With all the idiots like 400 and Hemi around you mean to tell me that China is more polluted ? Come on

The UN just wants global communism. Take from the rich and pay the poor. Social welfare is morally wrong. If there is a handout, a certain percentage of people will be satisfied with it and suck off the public for the rest of their lives.

No news here. About the only thing that will be apparent is that everyone will still bitch about USA smog and everyone will cower in fear of China. Because it’s the People’s Smog which makes it better than our capitalist smog, you know, plus whereas the USA has become a spineless whipping boy due to political correctness, China will kick anyone’s ass who gets in their way.

No surprise.
dmbpearl: good stuff. I notice a pattern from TIME. China’s people can’t afford to care about being poisoned

how dare they (each) generate 30% as much pollution as (each of) us do? the west should have the monopoly that!

or should i expect no one at LLN understands the term “per capita”. and no, #1, you shouldn’t have to go to private school to know that.

Hey! LLN! Where is the latest Honda recall news? (350,000 Accords) You should be ashamed that MSNBC beat you to the punch! Oh, I forgot, you might jeopardize this month’s check…

Didn’t Al Gore say China is a model nation that the USA should follow?

The satistics is misleading…if you calculate per person, U.S. is still the largest polluer in the world.

Good, now the EPA hippies can go chew on China’s ass with CAFE standards and emissions regulations.

elvio, if you calculate stats, China produces more pollution per barrel of oil used than the USA ever did. Only reason per capita is lower is that the Chi-comms keep 90% of the people living in squalor.

Hell, Al Gore’s “model for the USA” has a number of cities that are worse than the death-hole of Chernobyl, Russia. And that is per the liberals and Time Ragazine.

Obviously they didn’t build that wall anywhere near high enough. I’d sure hate to be an athlete competing in long distance events in 2010.

Well…Mayer_ray…if you sum up the total pollution that U.S. made on earth, Chinese pollution is nothing comparing to the U.S.

Root for president!

China has no EPA hippies because China has no democracy to begin with. Is that what you want the USA to become? Stop comparing yourself to the worst polluter (depending on how you work the numbers) with one of the worst human right record. Are you willing to lower your living standard and cultural value to that of the Communist Chinese? China is a case of the government whose sole purpose is to generate wealth without any accountability to anything including safety of drivers and occupants as well as the environment.

And if Chinese companies want to sell cars in the US, they need to obey CAFE too. On the other hand, US automakers have no concern about smog and less concern about safety in China and the specs of their cars sold in China are different as well. No one has any advantage.

elvio sosa, since your name is Mexican you have probably consumed more beans than I have in life, and thus your sum-total lifetime methane output is likely to be higher, and so you are a far greater burden on the environment than I and thus your responsibility to clean up the atmosphere is greater and you need to walk around with a shirt that says “I fart, therefore I am …… one of the leading causes of global warming.”

Fact is you are one of those “blame the USA” phucktards.

I read recently that the freakin olympic torch relay will, just from the torch, emit the equivalent CO2 of 550 SUVs this year. Why aren’t all the envirofreaks complaining about the needless olympic torch?

mayer_ray_nagin…you are one of those like to spread the bias stories like CNN and BBC. Although those self-claim free press media are indipendent from the certain interest group, they are well known of using bias story for political purposes. Yeah right…U.S. respect the human right but to profiling the people who is living in the U.S. by their race.

“The satistics is misleading…if you calculate per person, U.S. is still the largest polluer in the world”

No actually, what YOU just said is a misleading way of twisting the data. The environment and people’s health doesn’t care what the PER CAPITA volume of pollution is, all that matters is the total absolute volume.

If one nation dumps 4 billion metric tons of pollution into the environment, and has 1 trillion people, and another nation dumps 3 billion metric tons, and only has 100 people, guess which nation is adding more total pollution to the environment?

What’s more is because there are more people living in the nation dumping 4 billion metric tons, the effects of that pollution impact FAR more people.

So if you want to try and use per-capita figures to paint a pretty picture about pollution from a country with more people, I will use per-capita figures to point out the far greater cost in health care and cite the far greater number of health issues as a result of it.

The fact of the matter is, whether china ha 1 person living it, or 1 billion, they COLLECTIVELY (as a nation) add more pollution to the environment than anyone else. Per capita analysis of pollution means precisely **** all.

dmbpearl thanks for the link. Uplifting. I remember when Love canal was big news.
elviososa, I agree with you statistic can be and may be misleading. The problem is that statistic can be collected freely only in open society. That is why you aware of pollution output in US. Do you know of pollution output of Russia? North Korea? China, except what eye can see? Former Soviet Republics in Asia? You can not know that, since all of them have huge areas forbidden not only to journalists but anyone who not suppose to be there. Do you think Iran produced fuel grade plutonium and thought out ahead what they will do with radioactive waste? Do you know what radioactive waste is?

WordPressSucks….so “all that matters is the total absolute volume.” Then you have to agree our eco system is changing ever since the earth is born, and the increasing human’s economic activities increase the rate of change as well. the country polluts the earth the most would be western industrialized countries, eg U.S., E.U., Russia. No to mention U.S. had drop two atomic booms in Japan that created huge radioactive disaster although it’s for a good purpose that to end the world war 2. China is just trying to catch up with the western countries, they do have THE RIGHT to pollut as much as the western countries whom has been polluting the earth way before they do. China is just on top of the chat of the first year, and the developed countries have been on the top of the chat for s centry. So whose “total absolute volume” is bigger?? Who is misleading now?

china sucks

A4…I cam only agree with you China sucks in someways just as Europe and America. Nowhere is perfect…..even your A4 has some problems.

elvio, you are misleading. my air is clean, my skies are blue. polluted skies are not my problem.

hey elviososa, either way China really needs to fix their problem otherwise their people will start making human life expectancy go down. I have a prof who has been there twice recently and he and his wife have become sick only two days after being there. Do you think that might say something about their pollution? Like everyone has said above there has been alot of **** that countries have put into the air, we have had our fair share true, and the atomic bomb crap, pretty sure Russia tested way more than us, besides testing a bomb that was more powerful than all the firepower shot in WW2, look it up. There really is no end in sight of China’s polluting with the UN on their side, in a few years they could possibly, and easily, surpass the total amount of pollutants that the US or any country has produced, which would make it very hard for the earth to try and clean up.

I don’t agree that China has just as much right the pollute as the U.S. did back in the day. Times have changed, and the technology exsists to lessen environmental impact in virtually everything we do. China, on their quest for global domination, refuses to invest in these technologies, and no one seems all to concerned with stopping them. I also think it’s funny that people are “protesting” the olympics. These are the same people that have “made in China” written on 90% of the **** they own. If you don’t condone it, don’t support it.

Those dogeating gooks are out of control. They treat dogs like ****. For that, I despise the Chinese nation. I hope the Olympics are a total bust. I wouldn’t mind seeing protestors disrupt the entire show and get them cancelled altogether.

It’s not that I give a **** about the olympics. I just like how these people come out of the woodwork now. Where have they been the last 10 years? Also, lets not be hypocrites. If you’re so against China, don’t by **** from there. Good luck finding (and affording) things that aren’t, I have a hell of a time.

DEANSTER that’s why you have a F**K up life.

So…hateful83…are you trying to say that only you but no one else in the world should eat turkey during the thanksgiving?? What an A$$!!!

elviososa, no matter how many times I read your comment, I don’t understand it. So if you’ve written something legitimate that just happens to be above my head, congratulations.

put a big glass dome around china

elvio’s just pissed because he has problems finding burritos on PorFavorGiving Day.

I thought the chinese were suppose to be sooooooooo far advanbed from the US. They get what they deserve, they should have stuck with driving their little $H!##^ rigshaws. No more rice for you!

Hateful83…no matter how well I wrote, you won’t understand because many of you are so stubborn.

China has the right to get sucked back into it’s own @$$ and rid the world of it’s polluted crappy country and products.

Mayer, I’m not quite sure you realize what por favor means? And Hemi, who’s been saying the Chinese are more technically advanced than the US? I also don’t see why people should have to boycott all Chinese made products just to protest human rights violations? That’d be like me having to stop buying American products because of our mess in Iraq. I don’t hold citizens and businesses responsible for stupid crap their governments do. Although if anyone did want to boycott China, it should be noted that if WalMart was its own country, it would be China’s 8th largest trading partner.

I just wonder when people are gonna wake up and realise we all share the same planet. Shouldn’t we all be held to the same standards? It’s the only way we are going to ever accomplish anything.

Long time reader, first time posting a comment. But I had to b/c I can’t stand ignorant people.
elviososa – Cal is a liberal university, why would they make up a biased story, one that would put another country ahead of the US in anything bad? And I’d rather be stubborn than ignorant. Now you know why China didn’t sign the Kyoto Treaty. How about you look into these things more before you spout off at the mouth. Plain and simple China is the largest polluter.

61Vett….even if you are Liberal, it doesn’t mean you do not bias for the special interests. Your argument is somewhat meaninless.

What a nerdy ass comment

Oh yeah, Americans are sooooooo scared of China, a country who outlawed citizens to have or own guns. China is weak! They are at there peak right now and will fall and fall hard into a brick wall 5 years from now. Look what happened to communist Russia, you guys do realize China is still a Communist country right? The Chinese will never overtake America because most American citizens and households have guns. You might be able to get past the military, which I highly doubt, but you will never get past the American citizens with guns. Besides look how cheaply they make products over there. If they make there military equipment and weapons just as cheap and poorly, they are in some trouble. If anything they will kill themselves from there own led toys. Look how fast America took over Baghdad, what like 1 day? And 3 days the whole country. America could invade China in 1 month and make it its own country according to military experts. Never underestimate the US military or NASA!