Chrysler’s design studio used the “really big ugly stick” on the Avenger, and then priced it accordingly.

i think i figured out DCX marketing strategy…they made the Sebring really ugly…so when they park it next to the Avenger, the Dodge looks better and will sell more. then they can just sell the Sebring to rental companies. Im not saying the Avenger is a stunner but next to the Sebring it looks amazing.

You know, I think there is such a thing as taking brand unity too far and Dodge is proving it. Somebody needs to give DCX a wake up call and let them know that their vehicles don’t all need to look like trucks from the front end to make them look tough.

Still looks better than a Suburu.

Better than any Saturn or Buick.

Saturn Aura > Avenger/Sebring.

Slider—I totally agree with you. I just got back from the NAIAS in Detroit, and in person, this car is seriously homely. It’s one of those cars that looks better in pictures than it does in person.

I don’t see great sales figures for this car in the future. But for Chrysler’s sake, I hope I’m wrong.

This car truly is a piece of ****, I don’t care if people say I’m just a critic about everything, but anybody with 2 eyes can see this plasticky looking piece of **** looks god awful. Both this and the new Sebring are styling failures, in different ways, the Sebring is a mix of too many odd shapes and designs, while this is trying far too hard to look truckish and tough and just looks cheap

I have to agree w/ most of you in that this car looks bad. Indeed i think they are taking the truck image to far down the line into their cars. Of course there will be those who love it. Take the Pontiac Ass Tack (aztec). What a horrible looking flop that was and they still found people touched enough in the head to buy them. Spinning it in a positive light its nice manufactures make ugly pieces of ****. It makes the cars we drive that much better.

——->hooold now homie234, i’ll admit that that avenger doesn’t look all that good at all, but if “evry single dodge and all the other american cars in existence today” were “pieces of crap”, then i seriously wouldn’t be SMOKING V8s behind the wheel of my SRT-4 today……………

This car looks fine. Not great, Not good just fine. Meant to be the baby Charger? Check
Meant to carryover dodge brand image? Check
Meant to pull the ‘In your face’ attitude out of a person? Check

I think the car is unobtrusive and I have not seen it in person but I think it will be just what DCX wants it to be. A smaller Charger. And all that that entails

check that – I meant that the car will be unobtrusive as any other dodge vehicle is.

I would rather take this then the new Malibu.

173hp for $18k isnt bad

XeroBlue: If you build it, they will come. Sad, but true. I know at least two people who bought Aztek’s, and I find it mind boggling. Then again, the Rendezvous is pretty popular, too, and it’s the same damned thing.

Look better than a Subaru are you insane? Jesus Chrysler is trying to pull a Saddam only they are hanging themselves with this ****. Sometimes I wish Plymouth would make a come back then be its own non chrysler company and start making their wonderful Muscle cars again.

I missed the line describing the All Wheel Drive V6 6MT version. I’d hate to automatically write off what appears to be a good sporty car simply because it’s wrong wheel drive.

^^ obviously did miss that critical line that is clearly listed. Wow for me.

Still no V6 AWD 6MT version, however.

AWD is suppose to compete with the ford fusion, but would you really want this ugly thing over a fusion? add this to the nitro,caliber, magnum, durango, and dakota as ugly vehicles from dodge.

Homegirl234, yes it is better than Subaru, are YOU blind? Dodge rocks, you suck.

—–>yeah, dodge ROCKS!

Wow LamborghiniZ you are an asshole.

Anyways, I’m sure Dodge will find buyers for this. The Caliber was “ugly” too, but it’s selling quite well. The AWD and powerful V6 will help alot.

lol a wrx sti is an overpriced ****box subcompact with a hoss driveline. Unless you arer an autocrosser or a fast and furious nutswinger it is a waste of money especially since the 2.5 found its way into the standard impreza WRX. Keep in mind I just sold my subaru and loved it.

lol..

either way this car is certainly better than the one that it replaces and should do fairly well.

shumpy, A WRX STi isn’t a refined luxury car but it is far from a ****box.

Considering the Caliber SRT4 will be good for 300hp and the Magnum and Charger SRT8s have 425hp, what engine can DC drop into this to make it an SRT6, and what power figures can we expect? The Crossfire SRT6 motor won’t do since that is a Mercedes-based RWD vehicle. Any thoughts?

It’s choppy and primitive… like it’s target market is supposed to be, I guess.

hyperion. my comment about ****box is that it is based off the austere impreza, basically a ****box small car. It can’t run from that. what starts out as an 18k car, turns into a 34k car and like I said unless you’re boy racer or a legit racer it is a joke for the price. The car is basically 50k canadian here.. I can damn near get a BMW 335 for that. lol. Don’t get me wrong, it is a hell of a race car if that is what you need, but for that price I think it is a joke.

autonutt, this would do just fine with the caliber srt4 motor. It would haul ass. Before my subbie I had a neon srt4 (sx2.0 in canada) which my brother now owns and that thing flew with even its stock 234 fwhp / 260fwtq. As it sits it has something like 265 wheel hp and 320 wheel tq.

People bought the Aztek for the same reason people buy Elements and HHRs and Calibers…they may not be the best looking, but they’re functional, the price is right, and they’re different.

The Avenger is all of these.

But unfortunately for it I don’t it can carve out a niche like those vehicles did. This has to go head to head with the Fusion and the Camry and the Accord and the Altima…even DCX’s own Sebring. And I don’t think it can do that.

3.5L 6spd AWD…all for 24k….where do I sign up

sure, the styling is not my cup of java but I like those figures

Today’s Chrysler, bringing you ugly in all sizes.

I like the Avenger and new Sebring. I think they are both very attractive cars. But then again, I am one of those people that acknowledge that American cars are not “****” or “crap” or any other type of excrement slang and are just as good, and in some cases better, then the Japanese. I havent been brainwashed. Good job Dodge and Chrysler.

ZZZZZzzzzz… another boring, boxy, overweight vehicle from Dodge. Does this company do any R&D on their cars, or just shovel new designs out the door yearly? Chrysler, pleace go bankrupt and die, kthnx!

Thanks for the support deantj, soon enough Cknoff will see what a douchetool 1c3d0g, and how he insults anything Japanese, even when he’s wrong, dead wrong, just like he is now regarding Subaru. If I’m an asshole, then what does that make him? I’m afraid to know

ackdev73, ironically enough, you’re the brainwashed one

I remember when the Charger was a coupe with some serious go-fast flair (’66 – ‘71). Dodge had me scratching my head when they resurrected the car with four doors. I’ve warmed up to the looks…somewhat. It is the basis of one bad-assed cop car! But now they shrunk the styling to fit a smaller FWD chassis. Like the Caliber, this Avenger looks like it was assembled using LEGO blocks. This car needs softer lines. Although the hardware is promising, a six-speed MANUAL option would be even nicer.

I’ve always liked the name Avenger on a car… Now if someone could just make a car that fits the name, cause this one don’t.