LLN, I think you forgot to put the, “the WORST,” in between, “be” and “quality!”

Having owned a FIAT (Fix It Again Tony), I can’t help but be very, very, very skeptical….

I can set a goal to win the lottery by 2012 as well, that doesn’t mean it’s ever going to happen.

None of this will matter unless Fiat ponies up cash to keep Chrysler afloat to next year, much less 2012. So far, Fiat has invested ZERO in Chrysler, yet thanks to our moronic government leaders, they own a controlling interest (basically for free). Chrysler is still burning cash badly.

If Fiat just walked away from Chrysler, they would have nothing to lose. And if things get much worse, that’s exactly what they will do.

Dang, the Mayan calendar was right! When Chrysler becomes the quality leader, the world will come to a cataclyismic end!

It’s a nice goal. I would like to be a millionare by 2012, but the fact is it probably won’t happen, either. From what I understand FIAT’s current offerings aren’t exactly at Toyota’s level in Europe. We all know Chryslers eat transmissions(among other parts) for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. So if you combine the two companies the problem will be solved. Believe that when I see it.

Chrysler is getting money from somewhere. They are heavily hiring engineers and are developing new products. I ASSUME they are getting the cash from Fiat to pay the expenses.

As I have said before, Chrysler/Fiat can make it. They just better be ready to put in a lot of cash and see 2 years of pretty heavy losses. If Fiat can afford it then it can happen. Issue is I do not think Fiat has the cash.

My wife has a Jeep Patriot and although the interior is cheap as well as the less than impressive engines from the japs at Mitsubishi the vehicles has not had a single problem in 2 years. Of course she doesn’t notice the interior or engine noise, as long as it gets her from point a to point b.

right, z06, those moronic government leaders without whom chrysler wouldn’t exist at all right now…btw, that “right” was sarcastic…

Everything is possible after witnessing the redemption of the Hyundai and KIA brands, but doing this in two years is overly optimistic. I wish them good luck because if they fail this will be another nail in the coffin of American manufacturing.

P.S. I’m not American ( I live up north) but I’m really amazed by the level of schadenfreude displayed by commenters here, it’s like being joyful and happy for turning into a third world country.

Out the first 10 posts only two where somewhat positive. According the people on here Chrysler is damned if they do and damned if they dont. Im hoping Chrysler succeeds. I have owned nothing but Chrysler products since 1998 and never had problems with any of them. They have been great cars. I admit they made some mistakes during the Daimler years but they are trying to pull themselves up so lets hope they make it.

You mean the Caliber is really that good??

McCain should shut up and go spend some time mulling over his idiotic VP choice. You know the decision that showed America that you have no freakin clue.
On subject Chrysler is chasing a moving target, so good luck.

The 2007 Compass I leased for my wife was actually quite a good vehicle. My wife must be similar to easyrider’s wife as she never noticed engine noise or the cheap interior. She is only interested in color when buying a vehicle and after getting a vehicle getting her from point A to point B which the Compass served us well until March of this year when the lease was up.

Such goals have been set before. It’ll be interesting to see if they achieve them.

TrueDelta promptly updates its car reliability stats four times a year. So if Chrysler’s quality does improve, it’ll show up first here:

http://www.truedelta.com/car-reliability.php

shaver, if its a moving target they’re looking for they should make it Toyota since their quality has been going backwards for years.

Oh jesus, karesh, are you gonna spam your site here in every post like you do over at that crap site TTAC?

it’s funny… sometimes everyone beats on a product when it’s really not that bad… and people will keep being fanboys about something that’s over-rated.

Anybody think they will actually reach this goal? Ha!

Looking forward to the 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee, looks pretty sweet (pics) so far. Hoping the build quality is there too.

i don’t get it. is this supposed to be the joke of the day or something? no seriously.

i mean that’s like sarah palin saying i wana be smarter than a fifth grader by 2012.

howsmydriving, I owned FIAT(s) as well and not for their quality. They did drive nicely. However, almost 30 years have passed since and 30 years ago Chevy Vega, Ford Pinto or Plymouth/Chrysler products weren’t much better. Heck, Chrysler was on government respirator, their cars were so great. A lot of things changed since: we are reading of Ford building quality cars, GM presumptively also, perhaps FIAT turned the corner? Base on what I’ve seen in Europe, they actually did, so if Chrysler with weather recession (and a lot of us doubt that) it is doable and possible. FIAT does have experience in performing turnaround.

karesh take your faggoty ass back over to those labotomized fools at TTAC.

If the Chinese buy out all other manufacturers by 2012 and introduce their quality standards to the vehicle lines, Fiat/Chrysler just might have a chance to become the Standard of the World. Dodge Omnis for everyone!!

From what I’ve seen of the future Grand Cherokee, the perception of a large leap in quality might be realized so who knows.

Someone reference this post in 2012 after Chrysler has either a) imploded or b) failed epically at meeting this objective.

Quality leader?? Chrysler?? LMAO!!! Yeah ok. And I’m running for ruler of the world next year. Cmon Chrysler!! Who are you kidding?!! You’re the first to pop up in my head everytime I hear the word “sh*t”!! LMAO!! Oh man. Chrysler being quality leader. That’s the best joke I’ve ever heard. My sides are killing me.

And another thing. The 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee is based on the Mercedes-Benz ML. So if there’s any bit of quality in that vehicle, its from Mercedes-Benz. NOT CHRYSLER!!!

Hope they have this well mapped out. Neither Chryser nor Fiat have been known for quality.

Your response SHOULD BE……

“GREAT!! I hope they are able to meet that goal and become – once again – a successful and respected car company!!”

But no. All some of you guys [?] do is b*tch. [Is that ALL you CAN do?!]

I’m curious – what would you LIKE to see happen? Do you hope and pray that Chrysler DOESN’T make it?

Because Chrysler was NEVER a successful car company to begin with. Their only success was the introduction of the minivan thanks to Lee Iaccoca who originally had the idea for Ford. And even to this day, the Caravan and Town & Country are one of the worst in terms of quality. Slaughtered by the Sienna and Odyssey. And one more thing. Chrysler can’t do anything unless they have their hand held by someone else. Whether its Iacocca, Daimler Benz, or FIAT. The instant someone lets go of their hand, they wander off into trouble and almost disintigrate off the face of the market. I may rant alot about GM. But I admit. GM can do things on their own and have a shot at being quality leaders. But will never do it unless someone blows sunshine up their @$$.

I don’t mind it AT ALL if chrysler comes to quality and reliability standard close to honda/toyota/ford, what I don mind, though, is setting goals that are not that close to being attainable! A car company can’t just go from complete sh!t to being known as reliable in 4 years! Just look at toyota and honda, they’ve been at it for so many years! Even if suggest that their quality is SUPERB, it’s going to take WAY more than 4 years to change the minds of those who think of chrysler as being nothing but garbage!

CanadaCraig – I believe most people on this site or too short sighted to realize what would actually happen to the economy if Chrysler and GM actually failed. They also do not look at it in this light. What would they prefer to have happen if it was happening to the company they work for.

Myself, I personally hope that Chrysler can raise their quality up to the match the current standard. I hope the Chrysler/Fiat merger works. As for Fiat’s quality. Yes I am well aware of the tradition Fix it again Tony. But Fiat has not been around in North America since 1984. That is 25 years ago. So I will reserve judgment on whether they can build a quality car or not until a couple of years after they arrive in North America again.

Another thing. Chrysler has never been, and will never be a respected car company. While GM has the potential to improve their own quality like Ford has, Chrysler needs someone to do it for them. I don’t even consider them a car company anymore. Just a branch that has been passed around and abandoned here and there by other major companies.

Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!… Crisisler cracks me up!!!!! They’re gonna be quality leader in… 2-years… yeh! Right!

If its so fu$%&ng easy to do it in just … 2-years, why the hell didn’t they do it before! Oh its different now… why? Fiat – Fix It Again Tony who happens to have… the WORST quality in all of Europe…!!

Its taken the Japanese decades (thats 10’s of years) to get quality right…ever hear of 6-sigma…?

No faith, none, nada, zip, not gonna happen, not in 2-years, not in 10years, just go outta business and stop wasting our money!!!

It is interesting that so many people can not believe Chrysler would try become a quality leader. And many say that it absolutely can not be done in two years. IMO it will be very hard to do but not impossible. The reason why I say this is due to the fact that I know the difference between quality and perceived quality. What most of you are talking about the reputation for quality. And yes, it took Toyota many many years to build up such a reputation, as it will for Chrysler as well. But that does not mean that the vehicles they build for 2012 could not be quality leaders.

Greg, you’re a moron.

I’m surprised NMOFGM hasn’t commented on this one. maybe he’s too busy watching naked Swedish men videos with Borat?

Dang it, McCain would have been President if he hadn’t picked Caribou Barbie for his running mate.
As for “Chrysler Quality”: HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

Maybe they are going to start making something else…….. They could be quality leader in something……. Just not motor vehicles.

IF Hyundai and BUick can recover from the ’90s to be quality leaders, Chrysler has a chance as well.

Cheap interiors does not necessarily mean low quality.

If Chrysler can raise their build and interior quality up to the level of their sometimes striking exterior designs I would be very happy for them. But, nevertheless, it might be too little too late. I think the American perception of them is set. You can only flounder in mediocrity for so long before your name becomes mud.

I am rooting for them but I fear the reaper will be soon for Chrysler. Let’s hope Fiat has a LOT of patience.

lets hope fiat has a lot of patience ? i would have a lot of patience too with no investment

Deep down I am a diehard MOPAR fan, but even I have my doubts about Chrysler improving quality by 2012. There won’t be much left of Chrysler left after 2012 if they don’t get their act together. The RAM truck was a good start. But one vehicle improvement per yr won’t do it.

I have to say 2 years to reach such a goal is unlikely, aiming for that I spot think is a good thing. I happy to hear that they will be aiming so high hopefully with such an aggressive plan in to year they will be up near the best.

improving quality get exponentially harder, so improving to in the high reliability bracket would be feasible if they are dedicated but to be #1 nearly impossible. i feel if they are serious about this they land in the top few.

NRG – You are correct the Ram is an excellent start for improved quality. Then again just interior wise, I believe they have also vastly improved the interiors of the Patriot, Compass and Caliber. Diamler did not do any favors to Chrysler when it allowed them to put out cars with lego style interiors, but things have already started improving.

The day Chrysler becaomes leader in quality will be the day the world ends. Litterally.

Contrary to most comments, I am glad that Chrysler is setting such high standards. It means that Chrysler will have a better chance of staying in business and more jobs for Americans and Canadians which will help our economies recover. You people are mixing up quality and reliability. Quality has to to with which materials are used in the car and that has to do with comfort, rattles, and comfort. Reliability has to do with how long the car will last and not break down or be in the shop every month. I’m sure the article means reliability as well as quality.

Good luck Chrysler, and I mean that.

“comfort, rattles, and comfort” — sorry for the repeat, I left my computer for a moment and wasn’y paying attention to what I already typed

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