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		<title>By: jackjimturkey</title>
		<link>http://www.leftlanenews.com/chrysler-town-country-review.html/comment-page-1#comment-416416</link>
		<dc:creator>jackjimturkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 18:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Best minivan on the market ... barely beating the Honda</description>
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		<title>By: hondagrrl</title>
		<link>http://www.leftlanenews.com/chrysler-town-country-review.html/comment-page-1#comment-378529</link>
		<dc:creator>hondagrrl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 22:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the author. &quot;It is the perfect go-getter for families with active broods and full daily schedules which include school, soccer, friends, piano lessons, shopping, play dates and so on.&quot; As a mother of two active boys, this vehicle is perfect for hauling them, their friends, and their gear to the myriad places they all have to go. No other vehicle offers the same flexibility as today&#039;s generation of minivans. The latest Chrysler series, with its stow-and-go table and reversible seating,  ups the ante for all minivan makers to follow. If you don&#039;t have kids, you might not understand why a minivan is more convenient than most SUVs, but I&#039;ll put it nicely: No other vehicle type makes it as easy to change a diaper while on the go, and no comparably-sized SUV offers the same flexibility to carry people and cargo. Nor do comparable SUVs offer similar seating and cargo flexibility while still offering such excellent fuel economy. 

My 2001 Odyssey could comfortably carry seven people, a full-sized icechest, and a week&#039;s worth of luggage for the entire family. Name another SUV that can do that AND average 23 miles per gallon? 

If you don&#039;t like his choice of photographic accessories, again you obviously don&#039;t understand the minivan mindset. Elias is a professional: He was sensible to pose the minivan in a supermarket parking lot with carts nearby as a sportscar at a racetrack, or a truck at a construction site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the author. &#8220;It is the perfect go-getter for families with active broods and full daily schedules which include school, soccer, friends, piano lessons, shopping, play dates and so on.&#8221; As a mother of two active boys, this vehicle is perfect for hauling them, their friends, and their gear to the myriad places they all have to go. No other vehicle offers the same flexibility as today&#8217;s generation of minivans. The latest Chrysler series, with its stow-and-go table and reversible seating,  ups the ante for all minivan makers to follow. If you don&#8217;t have kids, you might not understand why a minivan is more convenient than most SUVs, but I&#8217;ll put it nicely: No other vehicle type makes it as easy to change a diaper while on the go, and no comparably-sized SUV offers the same flexibility to carry people and cargo. Nor do comparable SUVs offer similar seating and cargo flexibility while still offering such excellent fuel economy. </p>
<p>My 2001 Odyssey could comfortably carry seven people, a full-sized icechest, and a week&#8217;s worth of luggage for the entire family. Name another SUV that can do that AND average 23 miles per gallon? </p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t like his choice of photographic accessories, again you obviously don&#8217;t understand the minivan mindset. Elias is a professional: He was sensible to pose the minivan in a supermarket parking lot with carts nearby as a sportscar at a racetrack, or a truck at a construction site.</p>
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		<title>By: 2002tii</title>
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		<dc:creator>2002tii</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 02:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>F3INT))AP3X

I&#039;m glad you are laughing.  That&#039;s called a sense of humor.  For a second there, I wasn&#039;t sure you had one!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>F3INT))AP3X</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad you are laughing.  That&#8217;s called a sense of humor.  For a second there, I wasn&#8217;t sure you had one!</p>
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		<title>By: lamboz get a life</title>
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		<dc:creator>lamboz get a life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 20:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since most on here are just kids whom don&#039;t have kids then it is understandable why you would not like a minivan. But for a family they are the perfect vehicle. You can get 3 kids and gear into a mini-van that will not fit in a fullsize SUV and do it for 25 MPG&#039;s. My wife has a Sienna and loves it, does she talk on the phone while driving in it, sure she does. 
It&#039;s no less safe then the blowjobs 1115&#039;s Mom gives while her customers are driving. She does this all so 1115 can finally get into that Ivy League Cosmotology school. Good luck there little guy. 
Surprise, he also thinks the Honda is the better mini-van. That such a shock. Truth be told mini-van designs the last decade or so are because of Chyslers innovative vans of the 80&#039;s. Sliding door on both side, yea Chrysler. Power operated sliding and liftgate, Chysler again. Drop down DVD screen, believe it, 1997 Olsmobile Sillohete.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since most on here are just kids whom don&#8217;t have kids then it is understandable why you would not like a minivan. But for a family they are the perfect vehicle. You can get 3 kids and gear into a mini-van that will not fit in a fullsize SUV and do it for 25 MPG&#8217;s. My wife has a Sienna and loves it, does she talk on the phone while driving in it, sure she does.<br />
It&#8217;s no less safe then the blowjobs 1115&#8217;s Mom gives while her customers are driving. She does this all so 1115 can finally get into that Ivy League Cosmotology school. Good luck there little guy.<br />
Surprise, he also thinks the Honda is the better mini-van. That such a shock. Truth be told mini-van designs the last decade or so are because of Chyslers innovative vans of the 80&#8217;s. Sliding door on both side, yea Chrysler. Power operated sliding and liftgate, Chysler again. Drop down DVD screen, believe it, 1997 Olsmobile Sillohete.</p>
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		<title>By: RaineMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>RaineMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 13:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw one of these on the road today. Driven by a soccer mom who was too busy yacking away on her cell phone to pay any attention to traffic.

The Minivan has come full circle...
These things look like something straight out of the 80&#039;s. The only thing it&#039;s missing is square headlights. It&#039;s not curvy or aerodynamic anymore... it&#039;s just a big box.

It just needs some fake wood panneling on the side and chrome bumpers to complete the look.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw one of these on the road today. Driven by a soccer mom who was too busy yacking away on her cell phone to pay any attention to traffic.</p>
<p>The Minivan has come full circle&#8230;<br />
These things look like something straight out of the 80&#8217;s. The only thing it&#8217;s missing is square headlights. It&#8217;s not curvy or aerodynamic anymore&#8230; it&#8217;s just a big box.</p>
<p>It just needs some fake wood panneling on the side and chrome bumpers to complete the look.</p>
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		<title>By: jayjc08</title>
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		<dc:creator>jayjc08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 00:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>xyunya- Why would they exit the market when the Town and Country &amp; Grand Caravans the #1 sellers? It&#039;s still selling in droves to families everywhere...

GTbruiser- Yes, there is one, it&#039;s called the Routan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>xyunya- Why would they exit the market when the Town and Country &amp; Grand Caravans the #1 sellers? It&#8217;s still selling in droves to families everywhere&#8230;</p>
<p>GTbruiser- Yes, there is one, it&#8217;s called the Routan.</p>
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		<title>By: AMGoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>AMGoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 23:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would Chrysler abandon a segment they still hold a command over? As mentioned before... when it comes to sheer practicality for families, as &quot;square&quot; as they may be, nothing comes close to a minivan. And now with gas prices the way they are, they make even more sense than big SUVs. I agree with the notion that the last generation Chrysler minivans were more attractive... I don&#039;t really like the squared-off look of these new ones... but the interior looks handsome and well laid out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would Chrysler abandon a segment they still hold a command over? As mentioned before&#8230; when it comes to sheer practicality for families, as &#8220;square&#8221; as they may be, nothing comes close to a minivan. And now with gas prices the way they are, they make even more sense than big SUVs. I agree with the notion that the last generation Chrysler minivans were more attractive&#8230; I don&#8217;t really like the squared-off look of these new ones&#8230; but the interior looks handsome and well laid out.</p>
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		<title>By: F3INT))AP3X</title>
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		<dc:creator>F3INT))AP3X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can see the &quot;Town &amp; Country&quot; theme the LLN photographers are going for here with the parking lot setting and the picture with the red ball next to the van; but is it really necessary to include a picture of Target&#039;s shopping carts?  Honestly LLN use some logic, who the hell wants to look at picture of shopping carts?!  I cannot stop laughing at the lunacy of this, someone please tell me I am not the only one who finds a picture of shopping carts in a car review to be absolutely ridiculous lol.  On another note LLN should strive to be more hospitable to its viewers as anyone with a lower IQ like murderedout might mistake this entire review to be about shopping carts or big red balls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see the &#8220;Town &amp; Country&#8221; theme the LLN photographers are going for here with the parking lot setting and the picture with the red ball next to the van; but is it really necessary to include a picture of Target&#8217;s shopping carts?  Honestly LLN use some logic, who the hell wants to look at picture of shopping carts?!  I cannot stop laughing at the lunacy of this, someone please tell me I am not the only one who finds a picture of shopping carts in a car review to be absolutely ridiculous lol.  On another note LLN should strive to be more hospitable to its viewers as anyone with a lower IQ like murderedout might mistake this entire review to be about shopping carts or big red balls.</p>
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		<title>By: bigp</title>
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		<dc:creator>bigp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the only mimivan i will buy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the only mimivan i will buy</p>
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		<title>By: johnnycanuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnnycanuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm, think it was last Thursday. And still they aren&#039;t listening damnit!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, think it was last Thursday. And still they aren&#8217;t listening damnit!</p>
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		<title>By: xyunya</title>
		<link>http://www.leftlanenews.com/chrysler-town-country-review.html/comment-page-1#comment-377679</link>
		<dc:creator>xyunya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>johnnycanuck, didn&#039;t you say it yesterday?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>johnnycanuck, didn&#8217;t you say it yesterday?</p>
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		<title>By: johnnycanuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnnycanuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know I&#039;m going to sound like a broken record yet again, but the original mini-vans were just that- mini. Chrysler is doing itself a diservice by not offering a short wheelbase version with their 2.4 world engine. A low priced entry level model without all the bells and whistles- just 2 seats up front, a 3 person bench behind and a ton of useful cargo space even with 5 aboard would be the perfect ticket for a lot of families. If they want to retake the segment back from Honda that would be a good place to start. Go back to your roots on this one Chrysler, you just might be surprised that the good idea you had 25 years ago makes even more sense today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I&#8217;m going to sound like a broken record yet again, but the original mini-vans were just that- mini. Chrysler is doing itself a diservice by not offering a short wheelbase version with their 2.4 world engine. A low priced entry level model without all the bells and whistles- just 2 seats up front, a 3 person bench behind and a ton of useful cargo space even with 5 aboard would be the perfect ticket for a lot of families. If they want to retake the segment back from Honda that would be a good place to start. Go back to your roots on this one Chrysler, you just might be surprised that the good idea you had 25 years ago makes even more sense today.</p>
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		<title>By: GTBruiser</title>
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		<dc:creator>GTBruiser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The interior looks good to me in a clean, smart, well organized, modern, way. The exterior, on the other hand, is rather plain and anonymous, as if its missing some trim or something.   The wheels look cheap (ultra bright, shiny wheels often do).   I like how the &#039;96-2000 model TCs look sort of upscale stylish...for a van, that is.  

I heard there is a VW version.  Is this true?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The interior looks good to me in a clean, smart, well organized, modern, way. The exterior, on the other hand, is rather plain and anonymous, as if its missing some trim or something.   The wheels look cheap (ultra bright, shiny wheels often do).   I like how the &#8216;96-2000 model TCs look sort of upscale stylish&#8230;for a van, that is.  </p>
<p>I heard there is a VW version.  Is this true?</p>
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		<title>By: xyunya</title>
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		<dc:creator>xyunya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And for 40 grand you can even compare this to Odyssey. Not objectively or subjectively. Chrysler should get out of this segment, just like Ford and GM did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And for 40 grand you can even compare this to Odyssey. Not objectively or subjectively. Chrysler should get out of this segment, just like Ford and GM did.</p>
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		<title>By: xyunya</title>
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		<dc:creator>xyunya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HemiRetardRunner, isn&#039;t it time to change diapers in 124? The shit is waiting for you boy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HemiRetardRunner, isn&#8217;t it time to change diapers in 124? The **** is waiting for you boy!</p>
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		<title>By: purdue</title>
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		<dc:creator>purdue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had THREE Chrysler minivans at ONCE / ONE TIME!
I like them. 

Now, with gas prices up....not so practical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had THREE Chrysler minivans at ONCE / ONE TIME!<br />
I like them. </p>
<p>Now, with gas prices up&#8230;.not so practical.</p>
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		<title>By: murderedout</title>
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		<dc:creator>murderedout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m liking that shift column setup.</description>
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		<title>By: tripleonefive</title>
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		<dc:creator>tripleonefive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>La- Agreed the Honda is better</description>
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		<title>By: HemiRoadRunner</title>
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		<dc:creator>HemiRoadRunner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I didn&#039;t know I was so tense about it. Sounds like your the one that&#039;s had too many coffe breaks today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I didn&#8217;t know I was so tense about it. Sounds like your the one that&#8217;s had too many coffe breaks today.</p>
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		<title>By: tastyorange</title>
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		<dc:creator>tastyorange</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see one after the other on Long Island. They sell very well here.
Bumper is low... wonder how long it will be before the tailgate gets banged in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see one after the other on Long Island. They sell very well here.<br />
Bumper is low&#8230; wonder how long it will be before the tailgate gets banged in.</p>
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		<title>By: 2002tii</title>
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		<dc:creator>2002tii</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Hemi, 

It&#039;s a REVIEW, not a spy image! Lighten up!</description>
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<p>It&#8217;s a REVIEW, not a spy image! Lighten up!</p>
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		<title>By: gizmo2</title>
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		<dc:creator>gizmo2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must admit, I hate the new design, I think it&#039;s a backward step in terms of looks</description>
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		<title>By: gizmo2</title>
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		<dc:creator>gizmo2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Minivans will not go away. They are still the most versatile vehicle. I&#039;ve seen many people fighting to fit big boxes in an SUV and in less that a minute I fit the same thing in my minivan and still have room for my family. The market is just not booming like it use to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Minivans will not go away. They are still the most versatile vehicle. I&#8217;ve seen many people fighting to fit big boxes in an SUV and in less that a minute I fit the same thing in my minivan and still have room for my family. The market is just not booming like it use to.</p>
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		<title>By: LaCaLover</title>
		<link>http://www.leftlanenews.com/chrysler-town-country-review.html/comment-page-1#comment-377566</link>
		<dc:creator>LaCaLover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a box on wheels with fake wood on the interior. Chrysler thought out the details then failed to build it properly or with any panache at all. Get an Odyssey instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a box on wheels with fake wood on the interior. Chrysler thought out the details then failed to build it properly or with any panache at all. Get an Odyssey instead.</p>
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		<title>By: HemiRoadRunner</title>
		<link>http://www.leftlanenews.com/chrysler-town-country-review.html/comment-page-1#comment-377565</link>
		<dc:creator>HemiRoadRunner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, is this worth even &quot;spying&quot; on. I mean, come on, do you really have to spy on a vehicle like this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, is this worth even &#8220;spying&#8221; on. I mean, come on, do you really have to spy on a vehicle like this?</p>
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