Comments on: Frankfurt preview: Citroen DS3 http://www.leftlanenews.com/citroen-ds3.html Car news, reviews, and specs for the auto-industry Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:02:55 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Borat http://www.leftlanenews.com/citroen-ds3.html/comment-page-1#comment-480599 Borat Tue, 25 Aug 2009 18:02:33 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20602#comment-480599 Volo, I have no idea who designed engine for Mini. The sticker on new car, the one that spells where all parts came from states that engine comes from France. When the current Mini was announced, BMW press release stated that engine is joint effort, unlike former Chrysler-Benz Brazilian made mill. As far as PSA/Ford diesel engines, according to Wikipedia they all were designed by PSA, not Ford. Ford is a consumer, just like Mitsubishi, Volvo, etc. Volo, I have no idea who designed engine for Mini. The sticker on new car, the one that spells where all parts came from states that engine comes from France. When the current Mini was announced, BMW press release stated that engine is joint effort, unlike former Chrysler-Benz Brazilian made mill.

As far as PSA/Ford diesel engines, according to Wikipedia they all were designed by PSA, not Ford. Ford is a consumer, just like Mitsubishi, Volvo, etc.

]]> By: volo http://www.leftlanenews.com/citroen-ds3.html/comment-page-1#comment-480544 volo Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:24:57 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20602#comment-480544 @Borat: Now even the Mini D has a diesel engine developped with PSA (1.6 Hdi), or more precisely, taken from the PSA/Ford diesel engine. As for SomeGreek comment on Citroen's last breath, let me laugh. Citroen is actually successfull and his market share is growing in europe, unfortunately eroding Peugeot's market share. And the comment on PSA diesel engines implying that BMW did all the work: PSA's strength is Diesel engine technology for small and medium sized cars. However it is their gasoline lineup which sucks a bit, that's where BMW is good. so BMW and PSA developped the gasoline engine in the Mini, I guess mostly with BMW know how, and then BMW purchased PSA/Ford 1.6 diesel engine instead of the toyota one (I can understand, toyota is not so good in diesel engine) @Borat: Now even the Mini D has a diesel engine developped with PSA (1.6 Hdi), or more precisely, taken from the PSA/Ford diesel engine.

As for SomeGreek comment on Citroen’s last breath, let me laugh. Citroen is actually successfull and his market share is growing in europe, unfortunately eroding Peugeot’s market share. And the comment on PSA diesel engines implying that BMW did all the work: PSA’s strength is Diesel engine technology for small and medium sized cars. However it is their gasoline lineup which sucks a bit, that’s where BMW is good. so BMW and PSA developped the gasoline engine in the Mini, I guess mostly with BMW know how, and then BMW purchased PSA/Ford 1.6 diesel engine instead of the toyota one (I can understand, toyota is not so good in diesel engine)

]]> By: A4 http://www.leftlanenews.com/citroen-ds3.html/comment-page-1#comment-480465 A4 Tue, 25 Aug 2009 08:50:28 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20602#comment-480465 ...yes borat we all realized that 15hp was a typo. If you wouldn't you probably cant work the internet anyway. …yes borat we all realized that 15hp was a typo. If you wouldn’t you probably cant work the internet anyway.

]]> By: johnnycanuck http://www.leftlanenews.com/citroen-ds3.html/comment-page-1#comment-480451 johnnycanuck Tue, 25 Aug 2009 04:59:33 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20602#comment-480451 I hope North Korea enters our market before we see French sh*t over here again. I hope North Korea enters our market before we see French sh*t over here again.

]]> By: ConceptVBS http://www.leftlanenews.com/citroen-ds3.html/comment-page-1#comment-480438 ConceptVBS Tue, 25 Aug 2009 03:59:44 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20602#comment-480438 ^ The front has lots of Hyundai Veloster influence. First, the Aston Martin One-77, now Citroen DS3. Good job Hyundai, finally others are copying your designs. http://www.blogdecoches.com.ar/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/hyundai_veloster_concept.jpg ^

The front has lots of Hyundai Veloster influence. First, the Aston Martin One-77, now Citroen DS3. Good job Hyundai, finally others are copying your designs.

http://www.blogdecoches.com.ar/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/hyundai_veloster_concept.jpg

]]> By: zoltar http://www.leftlanenews.com/citroen-ds3.html/comment-page-1#comment-480339 zoltar Mon, 24 Aug 2009 23:05:18 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20602#comment-480339 Wow...one of the most original small hatchback designs that I've seen in a very long time. Love the floating roof design and the front LED's.... The small hatch market in Europe is very tough, thats why you will see alot of intricate designs as manufacturers try to differentiate themselves. Wow…one of the most original small hatchback designs that I’ve seen in a very long time. Love the floating roof design and the front LED’s….

The small hatch market in Europe is very tough, thats why you will see alot of intricate designs as manufacturers try to differentiate themselves.

]]> By: Rafa LL http://www.leftlanenews.com/citroen-ds3.html/comment-page-1#comment-480335 Rafa LL Mon, 24 Aug 2009 22:54:16 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20602#comment-480335 Any teen would be damn crazy about that little toy. Any teen would be damn crazy about that little toy.

]]> By: ASIMO http://www.leftlanenews.com/citroen-ds3.html/comment-page-1#comment-480303 ASIMO Mon, 24 Aug 2009 21:13:17 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20602#comment-480303 Dig it, a lot. Designing a cohesive and good looking small car is not an easy task. This DS3 could stand to be a bit more toned down, but Citroën very much succeeded with this design. Dig it, a lot. Designing a cohesive and good looking small car is not an easy task. This DS3 could stand to be a bit more toned down, but Citroën very much succeeded with this design.

]]> By: Donfuy http://www.leftlanenews.com/citroen-ds3.html/comment-page-1#comment-480270 Donfuy Mon, 24 Aug 2009 20:12:59 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20602#comment-480270 I love it. Great classy and avantgarde design. I love it. Great classy and avantgarde design.

]]> By: Borat http://www.leftlanenews.com/citroen-ds3.html/comment-page-1#comment-480266 Borat Mon, 24 Aug 2009 20:00:10 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20602#comment-480266 The news of Citroen demise are with us since mid 1930's - when Michelin had to rescue Citroen from financial troubles due to high cost of investment in new technology: Citroen Avant. The news of Citroen demise are with us since mid 1930’s – when Michelin had to rescue Citroen from financial troubles due to high cost of investment in new technology: Citroen Avant.

]]> By: SomeGreek http://www.leftlanenews.com/citroen-ds3.html/comment-page-1#comment-480256 SomeGreek Mon, 24 Aug 2009 19:46:45 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20602#comment-480256 This might be one of Citroen's last breaths. They don't make great cars anymore and except from the disign they don't excel at anything. The design of engines was made by Bmw and PSA worked on production costs, as i read some time in the past. This might be one of Citroen’s last breaths. They don’t make great cars anymore and except from the disign they don’t excel at anything.
The design of engines was made by Bmw and PSA worked on production costs, as i read some time in the past.

]]> By: Borat http://www.leftlanenews.com/citroen-ds3.html/comment-page-1#comment-480243 Borat Mon, 24 Aug 2009 19:24:58 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20602#comment-480243 Citroen pioneered major innovations during last century. I would compare them in terms of innovation to either GM or Ford, yet is a tiny company in terms of sales. Radial tires were first used on Citroen (perhaps because Citroen was division of Michelin); famous Ford '32 coupe is actually Citroen body on frame, while Citroen with identical looks was unibody and front wheel drive (both are first in mass production). Most of cars today are improvement on original DS 19, which was evolution of Citroen Avant (Ford '32 coupe as FWD and unibody contraction). Looks are personal, I love the looks of this little toy (sort of Mini, but Citroen). Speaking of Mini, gasoline engines are identical as in Mini: BMW sourced gasoline engines from PSA and diesel from Toyota (another favorite on this blog). I would assume that diesel engines will come from Toyota as well and will be built in France, just like gasoline engines. PSA and Toyota have joined factory near Paris (NUMMI of France?). I am sure 15 HP is a LLN typo, meant to be 150 HP. Citroen pioneered major innovations during last century. I would compare them in terms of innovation to either GM or Ford, yet is a tiny company in terms of sales. Radial tires were first used on Citroen (perhaps because Citroen was division of Michelin); famous Ford ‘32 coupe is actually Citroen body on frame, while Citroen with identical looks was unibody and front wheel drive (both are first in mass production).
Most of cars today are improvement on original DS 19, which was evolution of Citroen Avant (Ford ‘32 coupe as FWD and unibody contraction).
Looks are personal, I love the looks of this little toy (sort of Mini, but Citroen). Speaking of Mini, gasoline engines are identical as in Mini: BMW sourced gasoline engines from PSA and diesel from Toyota (another favorite on this blog). I would assume that diesel engines will come from Toyota as well and will be built in France, just like gasoline engines. PSA and Toyota have joined factory near Paris (NUMMI of France?).
I am sure 15 HP is a LLN typo, meant to be 150 HP.

]]> By: No More Oil For Toyota http://www.leftlanenews.com/citroen-ds3.html/comment-page-1#comment-480235 No More Oil For Toyota Mon, 24 Aug 2009 18:26:39 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20602#comment-480235 oddly entertaining is a good way to put it. interesting design, a bit overdone but its pretty cool. oddly entertaining is a good way to put it. interesting design, a bit overdone but its pretty cool.

]]> By: JakeK66 http://www.leftlanenews.com/citroen-ds3.html/comment-page-1#comment-480234 JakeK66 Mon, 24 Aug 2009 18:25:42 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20602#comment-480234 Citroen's getting in the lawnmower business? 15 hp might not even be enough for a ride-on one, but makes for a pretty powerful push mower! Citroen’s getting in the lawnmower business? 15 hp might not even be enough for a ride-on one, but makes for a pretty powerful push mower!

]]> By: 05Z88Path http://www.leftlanenews.com/citroen-ds3.html/comment-page-1#comment-480233 05Z88Path Mon, 24 Aug 2009 18:25:20 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20602#comment-480233 Like some of the other Citroen's previewed on LLN, it's not a great looking car (IMO of course) but has a certain quirkiness to it that makes it somehow appealing. Maybe because their designs are so different then what we see in the states...just can't seem to pin down what I love or hate about it. Instead I'm looking at it trying to figure it out. Weird. Like some of the other Citroen’s previewed on LLN, it’s not a great looking car (IMO of course) but has a certain quirkiness to it that makes it somehow appealing. Maybe because their designs are so different then what we see in the states…just can’t seem to pin down what I love or hate about it. Instead I’m looking at it trying to figure it out. Weird.

]]> By: DenverGuy217 http://www.leftlanenews.com/citroen-ds3.html/comment-page-1#comment-480225 DenverGuy217 Mon, 24 Aug 2009 18:10:50 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20602#comment-480225 Oddly entertaining... Citroen has had some cool designs as-of-late Oddly entertaining… Citroen has had some cool designs as-of-late

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