With domestics you should have notice that I left out Chryslers for obvious reasons. Plus as I mentioned I left out Ford EUROPEANs as they are actually decent cars (shown by the fact I have two). I don’t like the fact the american GM and ford cars are so lazy. Like come on 8.3ltr for 600bhp in a viper. I guess ford are actually learning by using the european counterparts in the next few years so at least thats something.

As for the american industry, any person (unlike sheep shagging uneducated fools like you) will see that americans cars are too truck dependent and struggle to turn corners. Notice how the japanese are selling more cars because they are more fuel efficient and plain better. American cars are the worst out of the european, Korean and japanese. Thats why the american big three’s days are limited.

As for choking on a scone, you should be careful for what you wish for pussy cos it might just come back and happen to you. I could see it now, you set on fire after your supposedly brilliant american car blow up after hitting the tree cos it could handle any corner and had no brakes even with a 6.0ltr engine. Personally I think the sooner the better. GHood ridence to bad rubbish

Now as for me not testing every american model there is-your again full of crap seeing as you never tested all the Mercs to say their unrealiable (you probably havn’t even sat in one let alone drove one). All the mercs you have spoken of have all been replaced and according to the JD survey Mercedes was quite high up. At least Mercedes give a crap about their customers. Remember the ford which blew up every time it was hit from behind or the explorer that reved itself. Remember how the companies rather pay compensation for the death then actually pay to get the car repaired beforehand.

Just because you like american don’t mean everyone help has to. Ever wonder why american rather buy japanese or european. Wonder why Mercedes sell almost the same amount of cars as Cadillac even though they are way more expensive or that out of 10 american 9 would easily take a Mercedes over the cadillac equivlant or even the fact that american car can’t sell outside of america because they are well below rival such as the Saab and volvo let alone BMer and Mercs.

Seriously cock suck do your maths. Ask 5 people you know what they would rather take any cadillac or their Mercedes equivlant and find out for yourself.

The only half decent car to come from america is the mustang but all that could do was fast in a straight line. I have to admit ford in europe are good cars but they are just that EUROPEAN models. Ford & GM don’t even believe that retards like you can tell the difference between old and new thats why we have the 3rd generation ford focus coming up and still stuck on the first generation with minor improvements.

Face it you bimbo, americans love european cars and that includes the lambos, ferrari’s, Porsche, Bmers and Mercs. Only retards like you would choose american over ANYTHING else because of patriotic reasons and pay over the odds for your pile of shit. ITS THE ONLY REASON WHY THE BIG THREE ARE STILL ALIVE.They know they can sell anything with a american badge on it and nobs like you would buy it.

P.S. I am infact english. We created the english language so remember that next time you try to make a point about how good your language is. Remember what you speak yet? You the bigest retard ever.

Now learn to read and then understand that I never said Japanese car were shit. They are miles better then american cars (Except euro Fords which are european anyway). Your choice of cars shows you shit cars anyway but for your information we also have 5 cars, 2 small ford fiesta’s, Volkwagen Golf, Mitsubhishi Evo, Merc e320 cdi. Plus on top of that I done car engineering back at college some 15 years ago so I think I have a better idea of how to run a car then you. You probably struggle to change a tyre let alone a engine.

P.s. Just face the music, the germans done you nice and good. They actually made a profit if you include the 20% and 10 billion chrysler had to start with.

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070628/OPINION03/706280407/1148/AUTO01

Can’t read, then get your mama to read for you

Do you math= $35 billion
-$22 billion

Leaves $13 billion loss
– $8 billion if chrysler goes up in value for the 20%

leaves $5 billion loss

but when you consider chrysler had $10 billion to start with then the number mkae the whole thing look like a profit for daimler. Plus don’t forget the impact of the $18 billion dollars of pension that daimler WOULD HAVE taken had they still owned chrysler. Now if chrysler do go under they are taking cerburus with them. Gotta love the germans hey

amgoff, i agree wholeheartedly. chrysler started the cab-forward design era and was managing to be pretty profitable before daimler bought them and screwed them over.

the 90s will be remembered as chrysler’s glory era between the shitty 80s and the even shittier 00s.

Who ever think chrysler made sexy cars seriously needs glasses. Seriously, I have seen crap companies but Chrysler tops them all. Their cars look crap, drive like crap, go like crap and the whole lineup is way way way to truck dependent. The only reason they actually made half a profit before was because their whole lineup was full of truck like the vayager, but now its $3/gallon their totally stuffed cos everyone want small cars and chrysler doesn’t even know what a small car is let alone make one. LOOK AROUND PEOPLE your whole american industry is truck reliant and that why the japanese are whopping your ass. On top of that the UAW is right there to make sure they can put the final nail in the coffins.

By the way for your information, Daimler didn’t actually lose out that much. By dumping Chrysler, Daimler’s value as a company has rocketed by, wait for it — $22 billion dollars — plus they still have 20% of chrysler corp. Throw into that the fact that they DON’T have the $18 billion dollars worth of pension funds hanging over their necks (now i believe it belong to cerberus) they have done a great deal in some ways. They don’t even have to put any more money into chrysler and can sell the shares for around $8 billion IF the company ever becomes a sucess. If it doesn’t then that cerburus’s problem, either way they are free.

Everyone is constantly crapping on Chrysler while mixing insults with outright lies.

The last time I checked, Chrysler had more than enough cash to be happy had they remained independent, somewhere along the lines of $8-12 Billion dollars. Before the “merger” they were turning out some of the most stylish and reliable cars on the market. They were riding a wave of successes – the LH cars, the Ram, the Cirrus, the Sebring, and piss on it as you might, the Neon. The Neon alone cause all other car manufacturers to go back to the drawing board in order to catch up to Chrysler in the compact market.

If Chrysler was in such a beleaguered state prior to the “merger” does anyone honestly think that the German stockholders would have approved such a deal and that Diamler was merely playing savior to a failing automaker? Please!

Chrysler products were consistently rated more reliable than Mercedes and the company was consistently more profitable. The “merger” was to be one of equals, a scam we were all led to believe. Unfortunately it turned out to be an out right takeover and Diamler once again showed their incompetence. They sucked Chrysler Financial dry to bolster their profits, made Chrysler use old Mercedes parts while charging them ridiculous amounts of money for them, killed the Plymouth brand leaving the Chrysler Group with an incomplete brand lineup, and worst of all had the nerve to blame their piss poor management skills on Chrysler.

It was a spin of the worst kind and many of you were obviously naive enough to buy into it.

And in the end when the sale of Chrysler is final, Diamler will find itself in the greatest danger of takeover the company has ever seen due to it’s poor market standing.

I can’t wait until an independent Chrysler can take Mercedes full on, especially in the entry-lux market. Cadillac has already proven that there’s still a lot of talent left in the American auto industry and I hope that the Cerberus deal is yet another affirmation of that.

Plus, it’s always interesting to read the nitty gritty of the deal.

http://www.daimlerchrysler.com/Projects/c2…/99426_book.pdf

Buy an S-500.

Today !!