Comments on: Despite popularity, fewer inexpensive vehicles available today than in 2006

By: ktulu

ktulu — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:49:32 +0000

every1 should make a new subcompact. just a stripper likem the old toyotra starlet
when is the tgata nano coming?
the geo metro was a POS but cost nothing to fill up. the cicvis is another POS

By: Veda

Veda — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 02:06:12 +0000

global_lightning: Right. And also consider the fact that they can’t run away from increased R&D for more stringent safety reqs and other things mandated by the gov. The bar for inexpensive vehicles should be raised to maybe $18K.

By: NoNameDenton1

NoNameDenton1 — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 03:06:37 +0000

Well, considering how well higher trim levels are going for a number of vehicles, selling the less expensive version would not make sense.

By: Need4SSpeed

Need4SSpeed — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:18:50 +0000

^ Gotcha, yeah I sorta understood what you were talking about.

By: global_lightning

global_lightning — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:32:06 +0000

@crash1433:
$150 over invoice? Really??? Would you care to share where you are, because around here (Northern Virginia/Washington DC), *if* you can find them on the lot, they’re selling very well at sticker. The Civic is now the best selling car in the U.S.
@Need4SSpeed
Expected value is the amount, if I totaled the car, that the insurance would pay off. It’s based on market value. Given most cars take the worst depreciation in the first three years, it’s pretty nice that I could sell it right now and make a (small) profit. I got lucky because when I bought the car last year I payed closer to invoice than to MSRP. There’s no way that would happen today.
@1115:
I’ve seen lots of civics that haved been abused and neglected. Some people confuse “low” maintenance with “no” maintenance. I wouldn’t be suprised if JoshyLofty’s car still has the factory oil :/

By: brassmonkey

brassmonkey — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:53:43 +0000

Wow, xyunya, what a very uninteresting piece of news. You should try researching how to properly use the Engrish ranguage next. AAhhhhhssoooooooooooooooooooo!

By: tripleonefive

tripleonefive — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:47:04 +0000

LOL I love these stories
Please explain why the Civic is a POS (watch as he makes up evey repair under the sun)
I cant wait

By: JoshyLofty

JoshyLofty — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:39:38 +0000

FYI, i drive a 2006 Dodge R/T & get 25-27MPG consecutively & i also own a 1994 Civic LX & its a huge POS. My significant other actually bought it new, kept it when they bought their 2006 Maxima new & we actually sold the Maxima thinking “oh we’ll sell this due to gas $ & drive the Civic for a while ’til the Kia Soul or some other cool little car comes out”. The maxima went quick as it was fully loaded & in great condition. The Civic, we’re kicking ourselves in the ass daily that we didn’t just sell that instead. Style? yeah right. Comfort? uhhh, in an older civic.. no. Gas? try again. Honda’s are great cars but not when they’re this old. I might add that the civic has never been in any wrecks other than backing into a mailbox yrs ago…

By: xyunya

xyunya — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:16:53 +0000

Need4SSpeed, during early 80s a number of college students were reselling “stripper” Corollas, Datsun 210/310 and CIvics because you could not get one from the dealer for list price. As a matter of fact, buying slightly used car at dealer list price was a good deal. Maybe Global get lucky, but then new car will cost significantly more.

By: xyunya

xyunya — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:13:35 +0000

Civic in 80’s and 90’s was not only clean but also extremely popular worldwide. Morris (original parent of Mini) was building Civic under license. While in Europe in 80’s I was surprise to see CIvic body with Morris insignia – I learned that it was licensed. Morris prior to that was licensing it’s own Mini to Autobianci in Italy and sold millions on Minis of its own. That company new a thing or two about small cars.

By: Need4SSpeed

Need4SSpeed — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:09:58 +0000

I think what Global_lightening is trying to say that if he was to try and sell his car used after being one year old and having 11k miles on it he’d probably get a little more @ fair market value, then he normally would. But no you’re not going to get more money from that car….

And no dealer that I know would offer market value or more for a trade in.

By: crash1433

crash1433 — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:17:25 +0000

Global,
do you really think your car appreciated? Are you joking? Try selling your 11k mile car for more than a new one. Good luck with that. Another example of import brainwashing. All around me honda stores are selling cars at $150 over invoice. So why wouldn’t your be worth more used than a discounted new one. unreal

By: Impulsive

Impulsive — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:16:29 +0000

Style IS subjective but clean lines don’t make something attractive, just inoffensive. No mention was made of chrome or air intakes. Like I stated, basic transportation, nothing more.

By: global_lightning

global_lightning — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:05:55 +0000

Style is always subjective; the Civic has always had clean lines to reduce aerodynamic drag and maximize interior volume. It doesn’t need phony air intakes and tons of chrome. In the interior don’t confuse ‘comfort’ with ‘luxury’. My old hatch was liveable 95% of the time; the only time it sucked was on +4 hour roadtrips.

By: Impulsive

Impulsive — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:01:15 +0000

’shaver’, ignore those with no taste in cars … anyone can argue SUBJECTIVELY what THEY like but there is right and wrong in the world and the Civic of that era was a peasant’s “organic” design dream … basic transportation, nothing more.

By: tripleonefive

tripleonefive — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:36:19 +0000

Well Kazakhstan is not a planet.
Yes the 92-95 Civics were nice and still look great on the road today. They had decent room for a compact and they drove well
They were and still are better than anything coming out of Detroit …Mexico (GM)

By: shaver

shaver — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:03:40 +0000

‘92 civic: Style? Comfort? WTF planet are you from? Kazikstan?

By: Impulsive

Impulsive — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:42:44 +0000

With a falling U.S. dollar and ever-increasing commodity prices, the pool will continue to shrink. No surprise.

By: johnnycanuck

johnnycanuck — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:34:35 +0000

Somewhat misleading headline as their are way more models that you can get for under 15k. It’s just the trend these days much like the Vanity Queens that cart around the little dogs in their purses to load up their little cars with unnecessary jewelery as well.

By: global_lightning

global_lightning — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:09:42 +0000

compact car != inexpensive car. This an assumption too many Americans make about small cars. Compact cars have moved uprange with nicer interiors, more options, and better drivetrains. All these increase cost, but also make them more attractive purchases.
Increased market demand is also driving up prices. I just refinanced my 2007 Civic; it’s Expected Value actually increased $200 over the purchase price. This means after 1 year and 11K miles, it has actually appreciated in value. Life is good

By: RTT10

RTT10 — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:44:43 +0000

id stick with my 89′ 3-series… wich cost me 2,000 than drive a Geo… haha u have to drive those with helmets

By: HoosierHero

HoosierHero — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:27:20 +0000

Ya, you’d have to put your fuel savings right back into a Metro because the damn thing would be broken all the time lol.

By: tripleonefive

tripleonefive — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:15:52 +0000

I heard that there was a spike in interest for fuel efficient vehicles like the Geo Metro
I think that is funny as hell being that the Metro was a big POS. Good fuel economy is not worth driving that POS. I would rather put $56 in my tank everyweek (as I do) than drive such a pos.
A good alternative is the 92-95 Honda Civic hatchback. They have style, comfort, reliability and great gas mileage.