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Details emerge on next-gen VW GTI, harder-edged GTI-R

08/07/2008, 8:40 AM

By paulee

The recently unveiled VW Golf / Rabbit MkVI will form the basis for the next GTI as well, but we already knew that. What is news is that the GTI car will get a version of the revised 2.0-liter TFSI engine, good for 211 horsepower and 258lb-ft of torque, which represents improvements of 11hp and 51lb-ft. The latest iteration of the evergreen hot hatch is likely to arrive in European showrooms by the spring of next year, with a U.S. release expected near that time as well.

A concept version of the car could make a car show debut by October, however, says Autocar. To complement the added power offered up by the new engine, VW will improve the car’s steering feel and accuracy and handling performance.

On the outside, the car will get Audi-like LED daytime running lights, and new front and rear fascias along with unique head and taillights to differentiate it from lesser Golfs / Rabbits. The wheels will also grow an inch in diameter, with the base GTI rolling on 18-inchers and 19s offered as options.

Under the hood, the new global EA888 engine will sport changes that will make servicing faster and therefore less expensive for owners, thanks to easier access to the turbo and oil cooler. The power boost is largely owed to a variable valve lift system developed by Audi.

The all-wheel drive R32 model will be discontinued, and replaced by an AWD GTI-R with the same turbo motor from the Audi TT-S, making 265 horsepower.

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08/07, 8:52 AM

posted by:

peter g

No comments.

08/07, 9:21 AM

posted by:

ryanpstr

I like the GTI, but with reliability issues I’m turned off.. Hopefully they’ve addressed that too..

08/07, 9:34 AM

posted by:

Z06ified

That’s a great torque number. Amazing actually considering its a little 2.0L four banger. It’s almost like a diesel where the torque number is bigger than the HP.

08/07, 9:39 AM

posted by:

xyunya

All well and good, but will it come to US? And will it be screwed together in Mexico? If yes DOI.

08/07, 9:46 AM

posted by:

maxcar

no park assist on this one, pleeeese.

08/07, 9:54 AM

posted by:

fuk-u-asshole

GTI-R that was a badge That I remember only on jap spec nissan pulsars

08/07, 9:58 AM

posted by:

mayer_ray_nagin

If a domestic company had a motor out as long as VW had its 2.0, tow things would happen:
.
1) They would have worked out the reliabilitty issues, and
2) They’d be derided for still using an old design.
.
VW kann mich blasen.

08/07, 10:21 AM

posted by:

fan

why do people post, just to say they have no comment on something? weird…

mayer: just because a 2.0 engine is built for a long time doesnt mean its an old design… ever thought about the possibility that they designed a new one, with the same displacement? if you actually cared to read the article, you would know that its actually gonna feature an all NEW engine…

08/07, 10:22 AM

posted by:

fan

oh, and, yeah… youre right about “domestic companies” having “tow-things happen” :p

08/07, 10:27 AM

posted by:

xyunya

mayer_ray_nagin, this is a relatively new motor. It is successor of 1.8 and what 3-4 y.o. at longest. Furthermore, it is very modern. The problem is that domestics don’t have anything remotely advanced. And engine is not the problem, everything around it is.

08/07, 10:49 AM

posted by:

bigp

well about time the r32 died

08/07, 11:11 AM

posted by:

Fletch

Gotta be a smaller turbo like the Mazdaspeed 3. The Mazda is direct injection, but still falls on it’s face after 5500RPM. Haven’t driven the VW with their 2.0.

08/07, 11:28 AM

posted by:

Fletch

R32’s that folks put aftermarked twin turbo set up on were nuts though, as long as you don’t blow up the engine…

08/07, 11:34 AM

posted by:

A4

GTI-R is the car they should have built all along, the S3’s 2.0t is the right engine for this, not the heavy VR6.

08/07, 12:38 PM

posted by:

ngrozdanov

I hope that AWD GTI-R will be as stable as Audi TT-S! As I know Audi TT-s comes with 2.0 TFSI which delivers 200 kW (272 hp). Anyway … all that power + that light car body is a real challenge.

08/07, 12:46 PM

posted by:

brassmonkey

snore

08/07, 1:23 PM

posted by:

Need4SSpeed

It is a smaller turbo fletch. A Borg-Warner KO3 Turbo to be exact. The advantage of the smaller turbo is that it give strong mid-range power, however top-end power is severely limited and isn’t as strong…

I like the 2.0SFI motor, and I know a lot of Audi/VW owners that like them…

08/07, 1:27 PM

posted by:

Need4SSpeed

^ 2.0TSFI* my bad

08/07, 2:57 PM

posted by:

zoomzoomer

One has to wonder exactly how much effort VW will make to differentiate the GTI from lesser Golfs now that they have the Scirocco competing in the same niche.

08/07, 4:30 PM

posted by:

sprockkets

Soooooo, wouldn’t you want to have your power available early then shift?

Btw, the turbo on the GTi is a variable scroll version. Perhaps what you are saying about the MS3 is that the turbo is restricting the exhaust airflow at high rpms and needs to let more out to not hold back hp while having the same boost, i.e. it needs a variable scroll turbo.

08/07, 5:05 PM

posted by:

sprockkets

Or, perhaps I should say, a larger turbo with a variable scroll so that it can spool up quickly yet finish strong and not limit at high rpms.

The MS3 turbo is limited to 16 psi. The one for the Ecotec 2.0l goes to 20psi.

08/07, 6:26 PM

posted by:

LS7

VW sells most of their cars to homosexual men.

08/07, 8:00 PM

posted by:

Need4SSpeed

“The one for the ECOTEC 2.0L goes to 20psi”

Right. Although max PSI for the KDO4 Turbo on the LNF is actually 23psi but for the sake of the engine it’s limited to about 20-21psi. The KDO4 is also a variable twin scroll turbocharger, that is actually closest to the turbo that’s on the RS6. The KDO4 is more of a hybrid between the KO3 & KO4, it has the housing of the K04, but the impeller from the K03, etc…

What they need to do is make the KO4 stock on the GTI.

08/07, 8:05 PM

posted by:

zoomzoomer

Is that true, LS7? How many VWs do you own?

08/08, 2:27 AM

posted by:

DriveCritic

If the new GTI packs 211hp, that would be a huge disappointment. The 11hp would hardly be enough to offset the weight gain from the larger dimensions of the Mk VI.

I don’t understand why the R model should be continued. Why can’t there be a Golf R36? The engine’s already there (in the Passat) and surely the engine bay of the Mk VI can accommodate it.

R36 > GTI-R
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08/11, 11:52 PM

posted by:

RTT10

AHH i just got a new GTI..

 
 
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