Comments on: Details emerge on next-gen VW GTI, harder-edged GTI-R

By: RTT10

RTT10 — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 03:52:31 +0000

AHH i just got a new GTI..

By: DriveCritic

DriveCritic — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 06:27:03 +0000

If the new GTI packs 211hp, that would be a huge disappointment. The 11hp would hardly be enough to offset the weight gain from the larger dimensions of the Mk VI.

I don’t understand why the R model should be continued. Why can’t there be a Golf R36? The engine’s already there (in the Passat) and surely the engine bay of the Mk VI can accommodate it.

R36 > GTI-R
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By: zoomzoomer

zoomzoomer — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 00:05:57 +0000

Is that true, LS7? How many VWs do you own?

By: Need4SSpeed

Need4SSpeed — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 00:00:26 +0000

“The one for the ECOTEC 2.0L goes to 20psi”

Right. Although max PSI for the KDO4 Turbo on the LNF is actually 23psi but for the sake of the engine it’s limited to about 20-21psi. The KDO4 is also a variable twin scroll turbocharger, that is actually closest to the turbo that’s on the RS6. The KDO4 is more of a hybrid between the KO3 & KO4, it has the housing of the K04, but the impeller from the K03, etc…

What they need to do is make the KO4 stock on the GTI.

By: LS7

LS7 — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 22:26:40 +0000

VW sells most of their cars to homosexual men.

By: sprockkets

sprockkets — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 21:05:05 +0000

Or, perhaps I should say, a larger turbo with a variable scroll so that it can spool up quickly yet finish strong and not limit at high rpms.

The MS3 turbo is limited to 16 psi. The one for the Ecotec 2.0l goes to 20psi.

By: sprockkets

sprockkets — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:30:55 +0000

Soooooo, wouldn’t you want to have your power available early then shift?

Btw, the turbo on the GTi is a variable scroll version. Perhaps what you are saying about the MS3 is that the turbo is restricting the exhaust airflow at high rpms and needs to let more out to not hold back hp while having the same boost, i.e. it needs a variable scroll turbo.

By: zoomzoomer

zoomzoomer — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 18:57:11 +0000

One has to wonder exactly how much effort VW will make to differentiate the GTI from lesser Golfs now that they have the Scirocco competing in the same niche.

By: Need4SSpeed

Need4SSpeed — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 17:27:50 +0000

^ 2.0TSFI* my bad

By: Need4SSpeed

Need4SSpeed — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 17:23:22 +0000

It is a smaller turbo fletch. A Borg-Warner KO3 Turbo to be exact. The advantage of the smaller turbo is that it give strong mid-range power, however top-end power is severely limited and isn’t as strong…

I like the 2.0SFI motor, and I know a lot of Audi/VW owners that like them…

By: brassmonkey

brassmonkey — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 16:46:08 +0000

snore

By: ngrozdanov

ngrozdanov — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 16:38:14 +0000

I hope that AWD GTI-R will be as stable as Audi TT-S! As I know Audi TT-s comes with 2.0 TFSI which delivers 200 kW (272 hp). Anyway … all that power + that light car body is a real challenge.

By: A4

A4 — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:34:51 +0000

GTI-R is the car they should have built all along, the S3’s 2.0t is the right engine for this, not the heavy VR6.

By: Fletch

Fletch — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:28:20 +0000

R32’s that folks put aftermarked twin turbo set up on were nuts though, as long as you don’t blow up the engine…

By: Fletch

Fletch — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:11:08 +0000

Gotta be a smaller turbo like the Mazdaspeed 3. The Mazda is direct injection, but still falls on it’s face after 5500RPM. Haven’t driven the VW with their 2.0.

By: bigp

bigp — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:49:55 +0000

well about time the r32 died

By: xyunya

xyunya — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:27:55 +0000

mayer_ray_nagin, this is a relatively new motor. It is successor of 1.8 and what 3-4 y.o. at longest. Furthermore, it is very modern. The problem is that domestics don’t have anything remotely advanced. And engine is not the problem, everything around it is.

By: fan

fan — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:22:14 +0000

oh, and, yeah… youre right about “domestic companies” having “tow-things happen” :p

By: fan

fan — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:21:32 +0000

why do people post, just to say they have no comment on something? weird…

mayer: just because a 2.0 engine is built for a long time doesnt mean its an old design… ever thought about the possibility that they designed a new one, with the same displacement? if you actually cared to read the article, you would know that its actually gonna feature an all NEW engine…

By: mayer_ray_nagin

mayer_ray_nagin — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 13:58:19 +0000

If a domestic company had a motor out as long as VW had its 2.0, tow things would happen:
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1) They would have worked out the reliabilitty issues, and
2) They’d be derided for still using an old design.
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VW kann mich blasen.

By: fuk-u-asshole

fuk-u-asshole — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 13:54:17 +0000

GTI-R that was a badge That I remember only on jap spec nissan pulsars

By: maxcar

maxcar — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 13:46:46 +0000

no park assist on this one, pleeeese.

By: xyunya

xyunya — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 13:39:10 +0000

All well and good, but will it come to US? And will it be screwed together in Mexico? If yes DOI.

By: Z06ified

Z06ified — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 13:34:27 +0000

That’s a great torque number. Amazing actually considering its a little 2.0L four banger. It’s almost like a diesel where the torque number is bigger than the HP.

By: ryanpstr

ryanpstr — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 13:21:36 +0000

I like the GTI, but with reliability issues I’m turned off.. Hopefully they’ve addressed that too..

By: peter g

peter g — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 12:52:59 +0000

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