YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! SH AWD
I hope they bring back the CL too
I hope that they make a Type S tsx with some SH AWD
THe only issue I see is the price point hasto increase but its defeinetely worth it for such a luxurious reliable PROVEN car Im willing to spend the extra buck s
I have been seeing that they are comparing this to the E class etc and thats wrong this current one competes with the Es 350 and the 3 and G35 The RL is for the GS and M45 E class 5 series
I dont know if that will change with the 09 Model

A wagon variant would be nice… in the same vein as Avant, 3/5, and C/E. Also, there are rumors of CTS and G sport wagons.

Just another Honda…

The current one looks pretty nice, but personally it’s nothing more than a “car”. Not really exciting to drive, not really exciting to be in, and not even many great luxury features, just the regular list of add ons. Not much more than a Euro Honda Accord slightly resized (based off the Euro Accord), similar to the Cavalier and Cadillac platform back a few years. I’m curious if this models advertised horsepower and torque ratings are a little over estimated again. And once again, I’m not so sure what Acura doesn’t get about a V-8, I’m sure one 8 cylinder engine in the entirity of Honda’s lineup would generate some value and interest.

Jon- GM’s already confirmed a CTS sport wagon, but I haven’t heard anything about a G wagon. For some reason, I can’t imagine that at all.

The current one looks pretty nice,
Opinion it is a VERY nice looking car with a design way ahead of its time very sports and sharp

The TL has a lot of personality and is more than a car its really exciting to look at as well as drive as I have driven one. Just like all Acura’s the TL comes loaded with every luxury feature you could want unlike a BMW 3 series where you have to buy a package for everything. The only option is the navi and I think that should be standard but a lot of cheapskates want a luxury car but want to cheap out on the options

The TL has different sheet metal, interior and driving dynamics from its Accord cousin.

The Cavalier and the Cimmaron were the same vehicle with the front and the back changed they managed to force a V6 in that car and unlike that terrible comparison the Accord and the TL are best sellers and always on the recommended list. Both have extremely high resale and are known for reliability so that stmt was just false. Most cars that come from the General past an present are a disappointment and have not been able to best their Japanese competition.The Cimmaron is so bad that Jackjimpussy wont even acknowledge it

I do agree with you that I am mad that they exaggerated the cars hp by 5hp That’s really an exaggeration on Acuras part. Your stmnt was more exaggerated that the rating

and different engines but that will change with the 09 model

Wow Trip5 you’re the only one excited about a Honduh.

FINALLY a non-FWD TL is available. Hopefully this is the start of a broader Acura theme.

No its just that the idiots(like you) on this board seem to think that bc one is born in america that they should prefer an inferior american product
The TL is a best seller so it will sell and be as reliable as the current one so Im sure that the american public will be excited about it as well

FYI, the TL will have the same grille as the TL and TSX, check the spy shots.

It’ll be ****ing ugly like the RL and TSX.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/high_performance/honda_acura_central/2009_acura_tl_spied

The Acura is just the euro-spec Honda Accord, which is available this side of the pond with 1.8 and 2.4 I4’s and a 2.2 Diesel I4.

I think Euro needs to learn the difference btw the TSX and the TL Another guy posting w/o knowing

I’m really quite mystified at the styling funk all the Japanese marques seem to be in the midst of. They’ve all fallen into what can only be described as a ’safe zone’. This new TL seems to typify the humdrum efforts coming out of Japan. I would even go so far as to say the Koreans are making more strides in exterior design- and that’s really reaching for something good to say.

The domestics have a real opportunity here to turn the tide. With very few exceptions given a particular era, they have always produced the best looking cars. For example I saw a well preserved Lumina Z34 Coupe this weekend and as it drove by I couldn’t help but think that’s still a cool looking f*cking car. OK I’m slightly biased because I used to own one, but the 2nd thought that ran through my head was how much money has the guy spent to actually keep that thing on the road.

Now, however, the quality gap has narrowed and the domestics still make the best looking cars. If the Japanese insist on putting out yawners like this Acura I firmly believe even the most loyal are going to find themselves straying from the nest even if it’s just to have look at what all the excitement is about on the other side of the Auto Mall.

Lumina Z34 Coupe HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHA
ow much money has the guy spent to actually keep that thing on the road. Being that it was a chevy Im sure he spent a lot of money to keep that POS on the road

1115: my post was directed at styling which is subjective. The Z34 and even the Euro Lumina 2 doors in my opinion were the best looking cars in their class and even going head to head with their NASCAR rival Thunderbird which was rear drive I still prefer the Chevy.

Like I said I owned one. The 3.4 Twin Dual Cam was an overly complicated disaster looking for a place to break stuck in a front drive engine bay that could barely accommodate the block never mind all the accessories and running gear. These were a nightmare to work on and eventually I gave up trying.

If you recall, however, no one else was even close to getting 210 horse out of a FWD six in the 3.0l range in the early ’90s. That, unfortunately, was the typical Chevy issue of the day- Quad 4 owners will also probably express similar misgivings- too much about ego and not enough about refinement.

That much I will give you. Almost 2 decades later, however, your little bull**** rant no longer applies.

Well the addition of AWD would make the TL the only sedan model worth buying from Acura. 300HP is standard nowadays so what remains to be seen is the pricing. If it’s low enough, just like any other Acuras, it would make a nice alternative to the G35x.

Maybe they should address the rattles everyone is complaining about. Then focus on trying to match Infiniti in power.

Ummmm, no thanks.

Can someone please tell me why Infiniti and Lexus are getting 306 hp out of a 3.5L V6, and Acura’s 3.5L V6 only does 280?

And Acura needs 3.7L to get 300hp, whereas the G37’s 3.7L gets 330hp? …

Can someone please tell me why Infiniti gets 18 miles to the gallon on the g 35 and the Acura is at 23?

Who cares, they barely sell any Acura relative to other lux marqs. A tree falls in the forest………..

^^^ tripleonefive, are those numbers correct? What cars/engines are you comparing?

I’m actually wondering whether Acura’s using direct injection, b/c that’s pretty much the last thing I’d be looking for, and a GOOD PRICE POINT.

Not on the TL, but on the upcoming TSX Type-S.
Things I’m looking for:
SH-AWD – check
Dual-clutch transmission w/paddle shifters – check
turboed 260 hp engine – check
direct-injection – ?
cheaper than the 125i – ? … better be!

Oh, and if they made a coupe version of the TSX Type-S, w/ more aggressive styling, that’d be the bomb.

Keep that price down, Acura!

That gril is ****en ugly! thats going to hurt the brand

The Lumina Z34 was a much better car than any POS japcrap Acura. At least the Lumina was reliable and of good quality. Can’t say the same about Honda products.

Can someone tell me why anyone bothers responding to import monkeys like ‘1115′? Illiterate chimps who spew nonsense need to learn the English language before they post publicly, after which they need to post FACTS, not bull**** ……
http://www.edmunds.com/apps/nvc/edmunds/VehicleComparison?basestyleid=100902911&styleid=100943790&maxvehicles=5&refid=&op=3&tab=specs

The comparable engine size in the TL marginally beats Infiniti in fuel economy but loses in power significantly. Not to mention wrong-wheel drive … BWAAAAHHHAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!

I’m with 1115 on this one. I think the pre-2004 TL was a yawner, which was just before the time I was in the market for a sport sedan. But, I’ve been very happy with my ‘05 TL. Maybe underneath it all, the TL is a lot more Honda than Acura owners care to admit, but if you drive a TL, it won’t feel like a Honda.

SW-AWD is the best news. How I longed for it back when I bought my TL. It should up the competitive ante.

The TL is a strong seller and the improvements will keep it in that vein. With escalating gas prices, new CAFE regs and the like, I think the automotive public will forgive the absence of a V-8 in a non-top-of-the-line model (especially since Caddy’s been very vocal in its refusal to develop a new Northstar V-8…. it’s just the sign of the times).

And by the by, this past New Year’s Eve I was rear-ended on a snowy day by a guy driving a large truck or SUV who fled the scene. I saw the headlights coming in the rear-view moments before impact, so I–thankfully–was able to brace my neck. $21,000 in damage later, I walked away with one night’s headache and a slightly sore neck…. though I have the kind of job where that’s how I usually leave the office anyway.

So, styling, performance, value, and SAFETY. There may be fierce competition in the mid-size sport sedan market, but you’ll never count me among the TL haters.

Well it still beats it you f–king idiot. You can look for any little thing you want but it doesnt matter the g35 and the TL are better than anything the general can come up with
Scarface I hope the new one has some features like a hard drive in the radio so that Cd can be burned onto it
Little things like that make sense

Acura Sucks!

@tripleonefive, sorry, my bad, everybody can make a mistake, you’re right though, our euro-spec Accord is your Acura TSX.

No problem Our Honda Accord will be the Honda inspire over there I think
Either way nice ass cars Do wish the TSX would come in a Type s form with SH AWD

it’s just an accord

Here we go again ….and you are just a janitor

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dont have to work overtime tonight Jack jim pussy >?

Hey chimp, 18 versus 23? Dumb **** … Acura can’t compete with Infiniti … and you know nothing about cars, fool. Tell us again about Mazda’s 6 having a Japanese motor, ****wad. Or Jag’s X-type having a Mazda engine … ****ing tool.

OOh you are mad huh Its fun toying with sensitve pricks on this board Acura still get better gas mileage that the G 35
Please pull the article where I said the 6 has a Japanese motor The Cx 9 does
The jag has a version of the Mazda engine you can look on Wiki and find out
Dont you cry…..tonight
Hahaah a

OH MY GOD 1115, SHUT UP!!! All YOU EVER SAY IS YOUR DUMBASS-SUPER BIASED OPINION TOWARDS JAPANESE MAKES. PLEASE, STOP POSTING….

tripleonefive- What Jaguar has a version of the Mazda engine? Even then, Jaguar makes some of the best vehicles out there, how could you go for an Infiniti or even worse an ACURA knowing that the Jag next door to you will eat it alive?

The CX-9 has a Ford motor and even that blows the doors off of your POS Chinese quality Toyota Highlander or Honda Pilots? Even worse, did you know that Honda makes a Go-cart called the Pilot? I’m pretty sure there mechanics are almost the same knowing your ridiculous Honda’s and Acura’s are loosing sales.

I could have fun doing this all day you know that right? You vile, selfish and dirty janitor, feed the fire. J-A-N-I-T-O-R

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JJay the Cx -9 has a mazda derived engine You should know this oops you only know lies
JJt is the Janitor and you must be his apprentice lol
You can have all the fun you want on a car website lying but Its good for you bc you have nothing better to do except to try and twist links and you have been proven wrong by me every single time
You would have gotten away with it if it werent for that 1115

Beginning in 2004, Ford dropped the old 4-cylinder Zetec engines in favor of MAZDA”S MZR design. Thus, 2005 and present Duratec 4-cylinder engines are Mazdas.

The Jaguar AJ-V6 engine is similar but adds variable valve timing. Mazda’s AJ version also has this feature.

Mazda increased engine displacement to 3.7 litres. Mazda states that the new engine generates 204 kilowatts (273 hp) and 366 newton metres (270 ft·lbf) of torque.[2] The engine went into production in June 2007 at Mazda’s engine plant in Japan.

Uh sit down
If you have some proof that this is better than any Acura or Infiniti engine please provide it
I trust this engine bc Mazda made it and not Ford
By the way you beloved Ford Explorer was made by Mazda not the other way around Therefore Americas beloved Explorer is really Japanese I LOVE IT !

Monkey, you stated in the Mazda 6 thread that the engine was Mazda’s, not Ford’s … you were corrected, it’s a Ford engine, loser. “If you have proof that Ford made Mazdas V6 then please post a link” … ummmmm, SHADAP, ****wad.

Acura gets marginaly better fuel economy but significantly less power … Acura loses … weak, wrong-wheel drive, ugly ****.

Keep jumping in your cage, chimp … you are stupid, worthless entertainment and I’ve made you look ike the primate you truly are … WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

I don’t really care where the CX-9’s motor came from — it kicks ass. That was my second choice. pilot and highlander were never in the running

No “****wad” the 3.7 v6 engine is from Mazda I sent some quotes from Wiki so check it out If you can read Ill quote it again
Mazda increased engine displacement to 3.7 litres. Mazda states that the new engine generates 204 kilowatts (273 hp) and 366 newton metres (270 ft·lbf) of torque.[2] The engine went into production in June 2007 at Mazda’s engine plant in Japan.

Anyway the TL is the second best selling entry level luxo car for a reason it has it all Someone like you cant appreciate luxury with buld quality and value The Acura still gets better fule economy whether marginally or not … “ummmmm, SHADAP” what are you 12 lol
Im glad that you think you exposed me or caught me somehow but its not true lol I know this is the highlight of your existence so I wont take your special moment away from you since you clearly have no life lol
Keep posting and Ill keep proving you wrong

I love it too tripleonefive, because you haven’t posted a single fact!

You’ll never prove my spewing **** wrong, I’ll always be right b/c you bought yourself into a POS Japanese ‘thing’. I’ll be happy when I see my more powerful, quicker and “higher resale” CX-9 laughing at you on the side of the road in your unsafe, low resale Toyota 4Runner, or your slow, less reliable and boring Honda Pilot. That’s why the CX-9 has NO recalls, while your Toyota Highlander has nearly 400k in the same amount of the time the CX-9 has been out!

Toyota Highlander Recalls
Recall ID# 12355 – VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL:ACCELERATOR PEDAL
Recall Date: July 13, 2006
Units Affected: 367594

Recall ID# 25527 – VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL:ACCELERATOR PEDAL
Recall Date: July 13, 2006
Units Affected: 367594

Recall ID# 8589 – WHEELS
Recall Date: December 17, 2002
Units Affected: 176

Recall ID# 42774 – LATCHES/LOCKS/LINKAGES:DOORS:LATCH
Recall Date: April 15, 2004
Units Affected: 366572

Recall ID# 30620 – SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC:FOUNDATION COM
Recall Date: July 05, 2001
Units Affected: 41169

I could go on and on and you still haven’t proven a single thing that I’ve said wrong. Sit down.

You stupid chimp … you are MORE illiterate than I thought … the argument in the Mazda 6 thread was about the engine in the 6, not the CX-9, where you asked for proof that the engine was Ford’s … “If you have proof that Ford made Mazdas V6 then please post a link” … FACK AFF, ****wad … you have no clue about cars and then try to argue INCORRECTLY and look even MORE foolish … BWAAAAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!! Again, SHADAP, ’cause you are worthless … kill yourself.

The 3.5l Acura gets barely any better fuel economy, which is important for poor losers like you who worry about **** like that but the Infiniti crushes it in hp … I’ll take better engineering and power over saving .80 cents at the pump, piece of ****. Peasants like you look pathetic arguing for the inferior product.

I post FACTS, monkey … you look retarded everytime you post nonsense … an I LOVE pointing out your excrement for what it is … you are a failure. By the way, learn the Engish language first, then learn some basic facts about cars.

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Now go sit in the corner of your cage, chimp … cower in your embarassment … that’s why you’re in the cage … you’re out of your league … waaaaaaaay out of your league … you are nothing. Stupid, illiterate garbage … kill yourself.

BWAAAAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA! The Acura iget better gas mileage you are still wrong BWAAAAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!
LOL you are so simple its easy to upset you

BWAAAAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA! I think I finally caught you in a lie BWAAAAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA! You are really excited bc even though you arewrong im acting as if Im not BWAAAAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!
“Chimp Kangaroo Monkey Apes you went to the zoo and like naming animals You even like animal crackers BWAAAAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!

LOL LOL you post FACT even though you admit to being wrong in what you said BWAAAAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!
You are obviously mentally disturbed and you dont realize that I dont care bc both cars are Japanese BWAAAAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!

Jjacy you again Being that the CX 9 just came out give the 3.5 motors some time and they will be recalled
Umm If you can show the resale and post some fact I sure would like to see it
LOL you have been cut down by me every time too and are HURTING bc you try and lie and twist theing and I catch you everytime
You little link about the Malibu was you posting numbers not an actual link to a reliablke source lol and your Highlander recall is the same
Get the resale of a CX 9 vs a Highlander and even if you do THEY ARE BOTH JAPANESE lol one just has a corrupt engine and one comes from the company that sell the best cars along with Honda
Jjacy c pathetic really Keep trying you might get me one day …..then again no you wont

I state FACTS monkey … Acura is inferior to Infiniti, period. Having them marginally beat, which I brought to your attention since you put up a BS claim that the gap was far bigger, is a pathetic margin when Infiniti owns them in power. But tell me again how the comparison is 18 vs 23? Or tell me how Mazda makes the 6’s engine. Or tell me who makes Jag’s engine being Japanese … you are a ****ing loser, truly … nice comeback, ****wad … you are a waste of a life, you know nothing, you are illiterate … I have presented FACTS and shown you to be a worthless piece of **** who knows ZERO.

You have been OWNED by your master, chimp … back to your corner …. BWAAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!

why not make the 4cylinders powerful but not the v6s that need the power.

Oh look… another gussied-up, over-priced Honda… no wonder the little bo-tard creamed his tighty-whities.

Having them marginally beat is still beat , which I brought to your attention
I dont see how Infiniti is better when they stole Hondas idea to even build a luxury marque I dont know about owning anyone or being anyones master chimp I bet your weekends are freaky
Tell me again how the comparison is higher in the Acura. Or tell me how Mazda makes the CX-9s engine.
and ill tell you how the Jags engine is a version of the engine Mazda made for Ford I believe I uhh quoted it for you so on all three counts you are still wrong
Since you like animals and probably wear granimals you are a kangaroo bc you have 2 vaginas and you seem to think with one and speak out the other lol
Oh I love messing with you and being right at the same time
Anyone who says “gussied” chews tobacco and talking about my style of underwear is a little homo(assuming your a str8 guy but then again …)